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Accroding to Sky News they are saying they have been told that Seh Daeng is unlikely to survive

Though he will certainly miss the Waco style funeral pyre he designed. Perhaps we can have the New York Times interview the fat rope swinging bastard tonight. :)

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Interesting Eyewitness account

http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong/2010/05/14/entry-1

May 14, 2010

A bullet that went through Seh Daeng's right temple before passing through his throad and the back of his neck appears to be shot from a Winchester .308 rifle.

A military expert has told me that the angle of the travelling bullet that struck Seh Daeng down was somewhere between 45 to 75 degree. This can only mean that a sniper must have stalked up Maj Gen Khattiya Sawasdiphol or Seh Daeng at one of the buildings nearby.

Seh Daeng was shot at around 7:00 PM yesterday while he was giving an interview to foreign journalists, including Thomas Fuller of the New York Times. He is now in critical conditions and placed under intensive care unit at Vajira Hospital. Chances of his survival are very slim.

A person by the name of El Shaheen posted an interesting comment in Thomas Fuller's report, Thai General Shot; Army Moves to Face Protesters, in the New York Times as follows:

"I was at Sala Deang area near the MRT station. A group of us reported about noise coming from the the Dusit Hotel. What looked like a long stick extended from the roof top. Within minutes, the general was speaking to his supporters, offering water to an elderly lady and giving her a hug. Moments later, a shot was heard from overhead. The object had been pulled back and a man with a black hood stood up and walked away. About 5 min. later. A man wearing the same outfit was escorted out of the hotel into a black police van. Quickly, it took off and proceeded to go up Rama 4 and turned left to go towards MBK.

Military officers where seen smiling and shaking each others hands from this killing of this man.

Our party was told by an army officer. You have seen nothing, go back to your hotel at once or you will be arrested and deported. He repeated again and again. You've seen nothing, nothing to see here. Go back to your hotels.

Staff at the Dusit hotel were seen outside, talking to a few of the officers.

LOL ... ummmm

I think anyone checking where "El Shaheen" is posting from will note that it is NOT from Thailand.

Just google! :)

Al Shaheen - Performance Development & Assessment Centre operates from IAT Technology Park of Zayed Military City in Sweihan, Abu Dhabi, ...

or

Al Shaheen Management Services Est.Abu dhabi Complaints: Avoid Escaping (TAMEEM). Employees.

:D

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If I remember correctly, "seh daeng" in thai language means "red shirt(s)".

So is the shot persons name a coincidence or you have it a bit missmatched ?!

'seh daeng' isn't but a transcription of the Thai word for  'color red' and isn't but the nick name given to the guy in question - no coincidence and no mismatch.

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Thaksin calls on govt to urgently hold talk with protesters

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra Friday issued a statement, urging the government to hold a talk with the protest leaders to end the violence.

He issued the statement via Noppadol Pattama, his former legal advisor.

Thaksin said the government had violated human rights and law by ordering the troops to crack down on the protesters.

Thaksin demanded Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to immediately carry out four things:

1) The government must stop deploying troops and police with lethal weapons to suppress on protesters.

2) The government must immediately lift the state of emergency in all provices.

3) The government must hold a talk with protest leaders immediately to find a political solution.

4) The government must hold talks with all groups in the society to try to bring about reconciliation so that the country will have genuine democracy and justice and can progress.

-- The Nation 2010-05-14

how about the government demand that he tell his workers to go home

he's stepping over the line.... it's none of his business to tell the government what to do...

quite entertaining this man!

Did you really think he could keep his yap shut?

Notice none of the points are

Red shirts will stop rally

Red shirt leaders will surrender to face charges

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Interesting Eyewitness account

http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong/2010/05/14/entry-1

May 14, 2010

A bullet that went through Seh Daeng's right temple before passing through his throad and the back of his neck appears to be shot from a Winchester .308 rifle.

A military expert has told me that the angle of the travelling bullet that struck Seh Daeng down was somewhere between 45 to 75 degree. This can only mean that a sniper must have stalked up Maj Gen Khattiya Sawasdiphol or Seh Daeng at one of the buildings nearby.

Seh Daeng was shot at around 7:00 PM yesterday while he was giving an interview to foreign journalists, including Thomas Fuller of the New York Times. He is now in critical conditions and placed under intensive care unit at Vajira Hospital. Chances of his survival are very slim.

A person by the name of El Shaheen posted an interesting comment in Thomas Fuller's report, Thai General Shot; Army Moves to Face Protesters, in the New York Times as follows:

"I was at Sala Deang area near the MRT station. A group of us reported about noise coming from the the Dusit Hotel. What looked like a long stick extended from the roof top. Within minutes, the general was speaking to his supporters, offering water to an elderly lady and giving her a hug. Moments later, a shot was heard from overhead. The object had been pulled back and a man with a black hood stood up and walked away. About 5 min. later. A man wearing the same outfit was escorted out of the hotel into a black police van. Quickly, it took off and proceeded to go up Rama 4 and turned left to go towards MBK.

Military officers where seen smiling and shaking each others hands from this killing of this man.

Our party was told by an army officer. You have seen nothing, go back to your hotel at once or you will be arrested and deported. He repeated again and again. You've seen nothing, nothing to see here. Go back to your hotels.

Staff at the Dusit hotel were seen outside, talking to a few of the officers.

LOL ... ummmm

I think anyone checking where "El Shaheen" is posting from will note that it is NOT from Thailand.

Yeah, you'd want to taking a right turn up to MBK if you were heading along Rama IV from Dusit Thani

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Interesting Eyewitness account

http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanong/2010/05/14/entry-1

May 14, 2010

A bullet that went through Seh Daeng's right temple before passing through his throad and the back of his neck appears to be shot from a Winchester .308 rifle.

A military expert has told me that the angle of the travelling bullet that struck Seh Daeng down was somewhere between 45 to 75 degree. This can only mean that a sniper must have stalked up Maj Gen Khattiya Sawasdiphol or Seh Daeng at one of the buildings nearby.

Seh Daeng was shot at around 7:00 PM yesterday while he was giving an interview to foreign journalists, including Thomas Fuller of the New York Times. He is now in critical conditions and placed under intensive care unit at Vajira Hospital. Chances of his survival are very slim.

A person by the name of El Shaheen posted an interesting comment in Thomas Fuller's report, Thai General Shot; Army Moves to Face Protesters, in the New York Times as follows:

"I was at Sala Deang area near the MRT station. A group of us reported about noise coming from the the Dusit Hotel. What looked like a long stick extended from the roof top. Within minutes, the general was speaking to his supporters, offering water to an elderly lady and giving her a hug. Moments later, a shot was heard from overhead. The object had been pulled back and a man with a black hood stood up and walked away. About 5 min. later. A man wearing the same outfit was escorted out of the hotel into a black police van. Quickly, it took off and proceeded to go up Rama 4 and turned left to go towards MBK.

Military officers where seen smiling and shaking each others hands from this killing of this man.

Our party was told by an army officer. You have seen nothing, go back to your hotel at once or you will be arrested and deported. He repeated again and again. You've seen nothing, nothing to see here. Go back to your hotels.

Staff at the Dusit hotel were seen outside, talking to a few of the officers.

LOL ... ummmm

I think anyone checking where "El Shaheen" is posting from will note that it is NOT from Thailand.

Obviously a tall story.

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Timekeeper,

I have consistently been against violence - and I acknowledge the reds have at times been misled and to other times just plain stupid.

I have also supported the ending of this - and have said that the reds should go home - they had it - now they are losing it through poor leadership.

I am against, in all forms, by ANY side - sneaking around with snipers and shooting people in the head 'because we do not agree with them'

Your comment about the 'law being upheld' is a contradiction - shooting people (the topic of this thread) is not upholding the law - it is attempted murder - plain and simple

Ummmm

Sorry but again your conclusion is NOT true.

Shooting people obviously is NOT murder in many instances. For the ARMY to shoot a rogue General that is comiting treason is not murder. (Murder is a legal term that would not be applied)

The fact remains we don't know who has shot Sae Daeng yet and until we do we will NOT know how to label it. Crime? Maybe.

IF they are following orders it may not be illegal - that is true - is this the case? we do not know - but what credible government would give such an order? not a civilised one for sure.

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Yeah, you'd want to taking a right turn up to MBK if you were heading along Rama IV from Dusit Thani

Not only that but it would be impossible to see the the intersection going to MBK from the Dusit Thani because the Japanese Friendship bridge is in the way, not to mention that sniper wouldn't have shown himself off like that. What horsesh*t.

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Video is on the way, but we are experiencing technical difficulties.

Update: At least 20 security officers injured when confronted by red-shirt protesters at Huachiew Hospital; officers agree to retreat from hospital

The television pictures showed that Major General Khattiya was shot in the head - top left hand side - which means that the bullet came from above. There was no shooting before he was shot and he was in the middle of an interview with a reporter.

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Sorry, no way I can read 35 pages to see if this has already been said, but seems to me that someone is taking revenge for the assassination of that Thai military officer, a while back, with the shooting of Sae Daeng.

its possible, he did say he had trained the men who did it

although i favor the 'from within his own ranks theory'

the bullet will tell the tale.........

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Timekeeper,

I have consistently been against violence - and I acknowledge the reds have at times been misled and to other times just plain stupid.

I have also supported the ending of this - and have said that the reds should go home - they had it - now they are losing it through poor leadership.

I am against, in all forms, by ANY side - sneaking around with snipers and shooting people in the head 'because we do not agree with them'

Your comment about the 'law being upheld' is a contradiction - shooting people (the topic of this thread) is not upholding the law - it is attempted murder - plain and simple

Ummmm

Sorry but again your conclusion is NOT true.

Shooting people obviously is NOT murder in many instances. For the ARMY to shoot a rogue General that is comiting treason is not murder. (Murder is a legal term that would not be applied)

The fact remains we don't know who has shot Sae Daeng yet and until we do we will NOT know how to label it. Crime? Maybe.

You are totally and utterly wrong. The only time that a soldier (sniper) would shoot anybody in the head would be during a war

or possibly during the current State of Emergency if he could prove it was an act of self defence. If he could not show that he acted in self defence he would be charged with murder.

Could you also tell me when the trial that convicted Major General Khattiya of treason was held?

Major General Khattiya was unarmed and in the middle of an interview with a reporter. He was also standing quite near a group of policemen. The fact that the sniper aimed at his head is proof that he intended to kill the Major General and if found will be charged with murder. Likewise, the people who ordered the killing will also be charged with murder irrespective of their position in society. As the whole area is surrounded by the military it seems very improbable that the sniper was not a member of the armed forces.

As with the killings on 10th April the SDI (who are working as part of CRES!) say that they will carry out the investigation.

(I have used the word murder and not the term attempted murder as it is unlikely that anybody could survive being shot through the top of the head with a 7.64mm bullet).

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Where are the UDD proteters now. Since the military seems to have a hard time containing them, the protesters must have split in various areas of Bangkok right now on the loose, am I correct?

The protesters on the streets are those who live in Bangkok and are not contained at Rachaprasong.

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Sorry, no way I can read 35 pages to see if this has already been said, but seems to me that someone is taking revenge for the assassination of that Thai military officer, a while back, with the shooting of Sae Daeng.

its possible, he did say he had trained the men who did it

although i favor the 'from within his own ranks theory'

the bullet will tell the tale.........

I heard the red killed seh dang story too, and its seems to be supported by the interview he gave before he got shot which revealed major conflicts between red leaders.

to me it seems that he is in a conflict with the 'dove team' he mentioned, and i also heard that the 'dove team' wanted to accept PMs roadmap which Seh Dang was against.

Interview Link:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/...;-30129281.html

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Sorry, no way I can read 35 pages to see if this has already been said, but seems to me that someone is taking revenge for the assassination of that Thai military officer, a while back, with the shooting of Sae Daeng.

Safe to say its been speculated more than a few times, along with several other motives, such as:(starting from reds to govt, with no speculation on merit of any of them or that the actual explanation is included at all)

1. Reds wanted to liquidate him because he threatened other red leaders

2. Reds wanted to liquidate him because he was a liability

3. Reds wanted to liquidate him because he wasn't listening to a sponsor

4. Reds wanted to take out a reporter, and accidentally hit one of their leaders.

5. Reds wanted to make a martyr out of some leader (note Reds in 1-5 here could mean general protesters or Red leaders or black shirts, white shirts or whoever else)

6. Someone wanted to step into his shoes

7. Rogue military personnel wanted to avenge the April 10th tragedies

8. Rogue military personnel wanted to take him out to avoid further embarrassment to military

9. Rogue business interests wanted him taken out

10. Rogue mafia wanted him taken out (can mafia go rogue...)

11. Struggle between police and military factions

12. Unauthorized hit.

13. Military sniper acted to enforce arrest warrant

14. Official hit.

15. Official hit that the bosses don't have the balls to claim...

16. Multicolors were probably mentioned

17. Yellows as well...

and there are probably a few more in there I missed. The sniping between posters has been the vast majority of posts and its gotten vicious.

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how can all of you farangs applaude an obvious murder attempt? Living in the tropics seems to make one loose his common-sense, let's not even talk about democratic ethos.

Mainly because most of the farangs applauding it believe that the guy was responsible for many murders himself, including on April 10.

Than you believe the wrong things, hater apologist.

Maybe hard to understand for a true believer but believing wrong things don't make any of your statements right.

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You are totally and utterly wrong. The only time that a soldier (sniper) would shoot anybody in the head would be during a war

or possibly during the current State of Emergency if he could prove it was an act of self defence. If he could not show that he acted in self defence he would be charged with murder.

Could you also tell me when the trial that convicted Major General Khattiya of treason was held?

Major General Khattiya was unarmed and in the middle of an interview with a reporter. He was also standing quite near a group of policemen. The fact that the sniper aimed at his head is proof that he intended to kill the Major General and if found will be charged with murder. Likewise, the people who ordered the killing will also be charged with murder irrespective of their position in society. As the whole area is surrounded by the military it seems very improbable that the sniper was not a member of the armed forces.

As with the killings on 10th April the SDI (who are working as part of CRES!) say that they will carry out the investigation.

(I have used the word murder and not the term attempted murder as it is unlikely that anybody could survive being shot through the top of the head with a 7.64mm bullet).

Don't security forces (police/army) around the world sometimes take out criminals using snipers?

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Timekeeper,

I have consistently been against violence - and I acknowledge the reds have at times been misled and to other times just plain stupid.

I have also supported the ending of this - and have said that the reds should go home - they had it - now they are losing it through poor leadership.

I am against, in all forms, by ANY side - sneaking around with snipers and shooting people in the head 'because we do not agree with them'

Your comment about the 'law being upheld' is a contradiction - shooting people (the topic of this thread) is not upholding the law - it is attempted murder - plain and simple

Ummmm

Sorry but again your conclusion is NOT true.

Shooting people obviously is NOT murder in many instances. For the ARMY to shoot a rogue General that is comiting treason is not murder. (Murder is a legal term that would not be applied)

The fact remains we don't know who has shot Sae Daeng yet and until we do we will NOT know how to label it. Crime? Maybe.

You are totally and utterly wrong. The only time that a soldier (sniper) would shoot anybody in the head would be during a war

or possibly during the current State of Emergency if he could prove it was an act of self defence. If he could not show that he acted in self defence he would be charged with murder.

Could you also tell me when the trial that convicted Major General Khattiya of treason was held?

Major General Khattiya was unarmed and in the middle of an interview with a reporter. He was also standing quite near a group of policemen. The fact that the sniper aimed at his head is proof that he intended to kill the Major General and if found will be charged with murder. Likewise, the people who ordered the killing will also be charged with murder irrespective of their position in society. As the whole area is surrounded by the military it seems very improbable that the sniper was not a member of the armed forces.

As with the killings on 10th April the SDI (who are working as part of CRES!) say that they will carry out the investigation.

(I have used the word murder and not the term attempted murder as it is unlikely that anybody could survive being shot through the top of the head with a 7.64mm bullet).

exactly but he will never listen...

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how can all of you farangs applaude an obvious murder attempt? Living in the tropics seems to make one loose his common-sense, let's not even talk about democratic ethos.

Mainly because most of the farangs applauding it believe that the guy was responsible for many murders himself, including on April 10.

Than you believe the wrong things, hater apologist.

Maybe hard to understand for a true believer but believing wrong things don't make any of your statements right.

"hater apologist" ???

I stand by my statement. People *believe* he was responsible so are applauding his downfall.

You *believe* that he was a saint.

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You are totally and utterly wrong. The only time that a soldier (sniper) would shoot anybody in the head would be during a war

or possibly during the current State of Emergency if he could prove it was an act of self defence. If he could not show that he acted in self defence he would be charged with murder.

Could you also tell me when the trial that convicted Major General Khattiya of treason was held?

Major General Khattiya was unarmed and in the middle of an interview with a reporter. He was also standing quite near a group of policemen. The fact that the sniper aimed at his head is proof that he intended to kill the Major General and if found will be charged with murder. Likewise, the people who ordered the killing will also be charged with murder irrespective of their position in society. As the whole area is surrounded by the military it seems very improbable that the sniper was not a member of the armed forces.

As with the killings on 10th April the SDI (who are working as part of CRES!) say that they will carry out the investigation.

(I have used the word murder and not the term attempted murder as it is unlikely that anybody could survive being shot through the top of the head with a 7.64mm bullet).

Don't security forces (police/army) around the world sometimes take out criminals using snipers?

very, very rarely and only with proper court orders and permission from superior officers etc. they normally have to account for every shot/bullet used - they don't normally shoot unarmed people talking to the New York Times!

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Timekeeper,

I have consistently been against violence - and I acknowledge the reds have at times been misled and to other times just plain stupid.

I have also supported the ending of this - and have said that the reds should go home - they had it - now they are losing it through poor leadership.

I am against, in all forms, by ANY side - sneaking around with snipers and shooting people in the head 'because we do not agree with them'

Your comment about the 'law being upheld' is a contradiction - shooting people (the topic of this thread) is not upholding the law - it is attempted murder - plain and simple

Ummmm

Sorry but again your conclusion is NOT true.

Shooting people obviously is NOT murder in many instances. For the ARMY to shoot a rogue General that is comiting treason is not murder. (Murder is a legal term that would not be applied)

The fact remains we don't know who has shot Sae Daeng yet and until we do we will NOT know how to label it. Crime? Maybe.

IF they are following orders it may not be illegal - that is true - is this the case? we do not know - but what credible government would give such an order? not a civilised one for sure.

This assumes that and order was made to shoot him by ANYONE in government.

Highly unlikely.

It may or may not have been a military decision.

or it was some ecconomic group with friends who own snipers...

Or he simple ran his mouth too much and was silenced.

But we can not automaticly say the government did this,

as much as you want to villify them at every turn.

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That's such great news! No condolences to the traitor's family when he bites it. Too bad it wasn't a head shot as the title suggests.

Can somebody explain why the Governor of Bangkok Sukhumband Paribatra felt the need to visit the hospital where Sae Deng is under treatment?

He is a member the ruling Democrat Party or not any longer?

If he also visited the hospital where the Lt Col who was shot on 10 April was taken care off then I can understand he wants to be the Governor of all people caring of Bangkok

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That's such great news! No condolences to the traitor's family when he bites it. Too bad it wasn't a head shot as the title suggests.

Can somebody explain why the Governor of Bangkok Sukhumband Paribatra felt the need to visit the hospital where Sae Deng is under treatment?

He is a member the ruling Democrat Party or not any longer?

If he also visited the hospital where the Lt Col who was shot on 10 April was taken care off then I can understand he wants to be the Governor of all people caring of Bangkok

Maybe he was checking the security there. If Daeng survives, he will be a very important suspect to condemn THAKSIN.

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Timekeeper,

I have consistently been against violence - and I acknowledge the reds have at times been misled and to other times just plain stupid.

I have also supported the ending of this - and have said that the reds should go home - they had it - now they are losing it through poor leadership.

I am against, in all forms, by ANY side - sneaking around with snipers and shooting people in the head 'because we do not agree with them'

Your comment about the 'law being upheld' is a contradiction - shooting people (the topic of this thread) is not upholding the law - it is attempted murder - plain and simple

Ummmm

Sorry but again your conclusion is NOT true.

Shooting people obviously is NOT murder in many instances. For the ARMY to shoot a rogue General that is comiting treason is not murder. (Murder is a legal term that would not be applied)

The fact remains we don't know who has shot Sae Daeng yet and until we do we will NOT know how to label it. Crime? Maybe.

IF they are following orders it may not be illegal - that is true - is this the case? we do not know - but what credible government would give such an order? not a civilised one for sure.

This assumes that and order was made to shoot him by ANYONE in government.

Highly unlikely.

It may or may not have been a military decision.

or it was some ecconomic group with friends who own snipers...

Or he simple ran his mouth too much and was silenced.

But we can not automaticly say the government did this,

as much as you want to villify them at every turn.

I have never said it was the government

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There was also an entry and exit wound. How can the bullet be removed if it wasn't there?

Bullet-fragments can be needed to be removed.

But the reports about an entry and exit wound could also be incorrect.

Sofar no CAT-scan nor X-ray plates have been published AFAIK.

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Timekeeper,

I have consistently been against violence - and I acknowledge the reds have at times been misled and to other times just plain stupid.

I have also supported the ending of this - and have said that the reds should go home - they had it - now they are losing it through poor leadership.

I am against, in all forms, by ANY side - sneaking around with snipers and shooting people in the head 'because we do not agree with them'

Your comment about the 'law being upheld' is a contradiction - shooting people (the topic of this thread) is not upholding the law - it is attempted murder - plain and simple

Ummmm

Sorry but again your conclusion is NOT true.

Shooting people obviously is NOT murder in many instances. For the ARMY to shoot a rogue General that is comiting treason is not murder. (Murder is a legal term that would not be applied)

The fact remains we don't know who has shot Sae Daeng yet and until we do we will NOT know how to label it. Crime? Maybe.

You are totally and utterly wrong. The only time that a soldier (sniper) would shoot anybody in the head would be during a war

or possibly during the current State of Emergency if he could prove it was an act of self defence. If he could not show that he acted in self defence he would be charged with murder.

Could you also tell me when the trial that convicted Major General Khattiya of treason was held?

Major General Khattiya was unarmed and in the middle of an interview with a reporter. He was also standing quite near a group of policemen. The fact that the sniper aimed at his head is proof that he intended to kill the Major General and if found will be charged with murder. Likewise, the people who ordered the killing will also be charged with murder irrespective of their position in society. As the whole area is surrounded by the military it seems very improbable that the sniper was not a member of the armed forces.

As with the killings on 10th April the SDI (who are working as part of CRES!) say that they will carry out the investigation.

(I have used the word murder and not the term attempted murder as it is unlikely that anybody could survive being shot through the top of the head with a 7.64mm bullet).

exactly but he will never listen...

+1 Agreed. He's been in Asia too long, methinks.

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You are totally and utterly wrong. The only time that a soldier (sniper) would shoot anybody in the head would be during a war

or possibly during the current State of Emergency if he could prove it was an act of self defence. If he could not show that he acted in self defence he would be charged with murder.

Could you also tell me when the trial that convicted Major General Khattiya of treason was held?

Major General Khattiya was unarmed and in the middle of an interview with a reporter. He was also standing quite near a group of policemen. The fact that the sniper aimed at his head is proof that he intended to kill the Major General and if found will be charged with murder. Likewise, the people who ordered the killing will also be charged with murder irrespective of their position in society. As the whole area is surrounded by the military it seems very improbable that the sniper was not a member of the armed forces.

As with the killings on 10th April the SDI (who are working as part of CRES!) say that they will carry out the investigation.

(I have used the word murder and not the term attempted murder as it is unlikely that anybody could survive being shot through the top of the head with a 7.64mm bullet).

Don't security forces (police/army) around the world sometimes take out criminals using snipers?

very, very rarely and only with proper court orders and permission from superior officers etc. they normally have to account for every shot/bullet used - they don't normally shoot unarmed people talking to the New York Times!

Wrong --- The assumption that governments do not sanction kills of known terrorists at ANY given opportunity is just silly. If a terrorist is beyond arrest it is NOT uncommon for them to be killed. Most of the time if the target is considered "high value" enough then even collateral damage is acceptable.

No court order will be sought.

I do not know that Sae daeng was unarmed.

I do know that his costume was chosen to brag about the people he had killed and ordered killed. He was wearing hand-grenade pins on his uniform.

The thing that is missed is that the reds are armed. They have "declared war" on the government. Sae Daeng is a Maj Gen in the Thai armed forces. He was wanted for terrorism. He was leading an armed insurgency. A military officer does not NEED permission to kill a traitor in an armed conflict. Even cowardice in the face of an enemy is a proper reason for a member of the armed forces to be killed.

NOW --- all that being said. Initial reports may prove to be wrong, BUT it was stated by eyewitnesses that were present that the shot came from INSIDE the red lines. It probably WAS one terrorist killing another and both being nominally on the same side (red shirts.)

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