August 30, 200520 yr In regards to the SUV bomb that killed GI's and children....perhaps the motive of the bombers is key here in determining if they were terrorists or not. If their mode of action had been that they wanted to kill GI's and that was their main objective then they were not terrorists and the children were colateral damage.....but if there mode of action was that by killing GI's and children simultaneously will make people hate GI's more and be afraid to be around them...then they were terrorists. I think its quite possible that some of the people doing bombings in Iraq are not terrorists and that some of them are. Frankly it is not that important a distinction to me. I'm not very happy about how we got to where we are in Iraq today but given the situation now and thinking about going forward it seems that the best thing is to go ahead with the gov't forming process and take military and police action to support the furtherance of the gov't forming process.....what else can be done?....it would seem criminal to just ring the bell for round 4 and then step back and see who kills whom....regardless of whether there are terrorists there or not.
August 30, 200520 yr Anyone who cooperates w/coalition forces is deemed expendable. If you look at the terrorists background most are not Iraqie.
August 30, 200520 yr ็Gosh - is this an appreciation of the complexity of government, administration and the development of strategy? Yesterday I had some respect for your analysis. Today i'm jolted back to reality. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I stopped replying seriously to TM because I know he will ignore facts and duck arguments he can't answer and go into tangeants to avoid being "owned" You tried and your questions were legitimate and well articulated. And this is the kind of replies you get. To think he used to teach kids make my skin crawl
August 30, 200520 yr ็Gosh - is this an appreciation of the complexity of government, administration and the development of strategy? Yesterday I had some respect for your analysis. Today i'm jolted back to reality. To think he used to teach kids make my skin crawl Appeasement weasels tend to make most folks skin crawl as well...
August 30, 200520 yr ็Gosh - is this an appreciation of the complexity of government, administration and the development of strategy? Yesterday I had some respect for your analysis. Today i'm jolted back to reality. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> To think he used to teach kids make my skin crawl <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Appeasement weasels tend to make most folks skin crawl as well... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> armchair heros and cowards make me laugh all the time
August 30, 200520 yr well...any answers?1) How do you fight/crush terrorists if they won't tackle you face-to-face on the battlefield and your intelligence services haven't infilitrated them? 2) Should Governments (Like Thailand's) negotiate at a far earlier stage with groups - in a more serious way, - rather than allow them to feel neglected - which may propel them into even more extreme positions where they might resort to violence? Saying 'well you're a terrorist now, so i'm definitely not going to talk to you', when you never took much notice of them even before they became terrorists, seems paradoxical Answer my sodding questions! These are not rhetorical. I am interested in responses.
August 30, 200520 yr well...any answers?1) How do you fight/crush terrorists if they won't tackle you face-to-face on the battlefield and your intelligence services haven't infilitrated them? 2) Should Governments (Like Thailand's) negotiate at a far earlier stage with groups - in a more serious way, - rather than allow them to feel neglected - which may propel them into even more extreme positions where they might resort to violence? Saying 'well you're a terrorist now, so i'm definitely not going to talk to you', when you never took much notice of them even before they became terrorists, seems paradoxical Answer my sodding questions! These are not rhetorical. I am interested in responses. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ...and I'm not your bloody old man - use your own brain!
August 30, 200520 yr ...and I'm not your bloody old man - use your own brain! If you're going to be bolshy, (akin to G Boycott refusing to play for England 1974-77) one hopes therefore that the next time you use this pulpit to open one of your VAST political topics unrelated to Thailand that the Moderators shut it down immediately. You can't have it both ways Thomas ! I don't know what we are paying you for.
August 30, 200520 yr ...and I'm not your bloody old man - use your own brain! If you're going to be bolshy, (akin to G Boycott refusing to play for England 1974-77) one hopes therefore that the next time you use this pulpit to open one of your VAST political topics unrelated to Thailand that the Moderators shut it down immediately. You can't have it both ways Thomas ! I don't know what we are paying you for. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not to be the OP of this topic, laddy. Where is he, BTW - is he dead?
August 30, 200520 yr He's ok. In remission from throat cancer....and that's a tough one to beat. I don't know if one is ever really in remission from cancer. They do recur. My Uncle, not far from you in Northwich, cancer finally got him last month, been in remission for 2 years then it came back. Just early 60s. Worked so hard all his life, and finally got a chance to retire, then ....kaput.
August 30, 200520 yr He's ok. In remission from throat cancer....and that's a tough one to beat.I don't know if one is ever really in remission from cancer. They do recur. My Uncle, not far from you in Northwich, cancer finally got him last month, been in remission for 2 years then it came back. Just early 60s. Worked so hard all his life, and finally got a chance to retire, then ....kaput. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Really, is Tax crook?
August 30, 200520 yr He's ok. In remission from throat cancer....and that's a tough one to beat.I don't know if one is ever really in remission from cancer. They do recur. My Uncle, not far from you in Northwich, cancer finally got him last month, been in remission for 2 years then it came back. Just early 60s. Worked so hard all his life, and finally got a chance to retire, then ....kaput. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Assuming, even you, wouldn't stoop so low as to wind up on this subject. Send my regards to Tax. We've crossed swords a few times - but the big C puts reduces our scumishes from hand bags to nothing at all. I hope and wish all the best.
August 30, 200520 yr Not Tax Exile. Geoffrey Boycott. He had throat cancer. I thought it was him you were referring to when you asked if he was dead. (Which was an odd question as he was only on television on sunday) < Yes, my mistake, looking back I see you were referring to the 'Original Poster', I thought you meant Geoffrey Boycott. Sorry, I was trying to watch 'The Incredibles' as I wrote and can't multi-task >
August 30, 200520 yr Not Tax Exile.Geoffrey Boycott. He had throat cancer. I thought it was him you were referring to when you asked if he was dead. (Which was an odd question as he was only on television on sunday) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank God for that. I think we better say nighty, night before Thaivis ends up ordering more funeral processions than the Big Easy. Now that is a sad story.
August 31, 200520 yr Author i'm still here , perfectly healthy in body and in mind i hope , and will come back to this debate shortly.
August 31, 200520 yr Not Tax Exile.Geoffrey Boycott. He had throat cancer. I thought it was him you were referring to when you asked if he was dead. (Which was an odd question as he was only on television on sunday) Thank God for that. I think we better say nighty, night before Thaivis ends up ordering more funeral processions than the Big Easy. Now that is a sad story. They have to evacuate the entire city first. It's 100% under water now - some places over 25 feet under...
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