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Help - End Of Work Permit, What To Do Next!

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Yes. Very confusing. Any chance of a scan of these stamps.

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The company have got what I would call an extension for my dad until March 23rd. However the stamp says '90 days to report, this is not an extension' (or something like that).

They have then got him an exit visa (which supposedly one needs when they have a work permit) which says '31st January to England'.

Can my dad exit anywhere else now he has that stamp which says he must exit to England?

Electra, there are many knowledgeable folks here about visa issues... and I'd agree with LiteBeer, that it certainly would help to clarify things if you could scan (or take a digital photo) and post the stamps in your father's passport that you're referring to...

As for your comments above...

--there is a common 90-day reporting requirement for people on non-immigrant visas such as retirement visas... That doesn't have anything to do with a person's permitted length of stay in Thailand. It just means, a foreigner is required to file a report, by mail or in person, with Immigration if they've stayed in Thailand for 90 days at a time without leaving the country. Once a foreigner on such a visa leaves the country and re-enters, then a new 90-day period begins. It's merely an administrative, tracking deal... again...nothing to do with a person's permission to stay in Thailand.

--I don't know what you might be referring to regarding an "exit" visa... or anything where someone's passport is somehow stamped in Thailand ahead of time with a foreign country trip destination.

--And you're a bit fuzzy about the dates, referring at one point to an extension until March 23, but then talking about needing to leave on Jan. 31...

Seeing the actual passport stamps here would help a lot...

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Richard, I think you're mixing amounts here...

The 800,000 baht amount in a Thai bank applies to retirement extensions of stay, two month prior on the first application and 3 months prior on all subsequent applications.

The 400,000 baht in a Thai bank or 40,000 baht per month income applies to extensions of stay based on marriage to a Thai citizen. Although in this case, the OP's father apparently is not married to a Thai citizen, so that wouldn't be available to him...at least at present.

Given the correct set of circumstances (i.e. more than 800,000 baht in a Thai Bank account for the past 3 months, or 40,000 baht per month documented income) your father should be able to apply for a retirement visa.

Hi jfchandler

I'm hoping you can help (again)?

I don't fully understand this, I am thinking that perhaps my dad should have tried to sort things out himself, but this is what he's told me, and I am a little confused as to what he should/or can do next.

The company have got what I would call an extension for my dad until March 23rd. However the stamp says '90 days to report, this is not an extension' (or something like that).

They have then got him an exit visa (which supposedly one needs when they have a work permit) which says '31st January to England'.

Originally my dad had asked for a flight ticket to the UK, and he also asked if they could extend his visa. It seems this could be where the confusion came. Plus they told him they were booking him a flight to the UK, but in fact they haven't.

I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense.

Can my dad exit anywhere else now he has that stamp which says he must exit to England?

I am very confused!

Thank you in advance.

Not JFC, but until he or one of the other more knowledgeable guys come along, I'll give an opinion. The first part that you mention, sounds like a simple address report, it is not an extension, just a report that people have to comply with if they stay in Thailand more than 90 days, it has nohting to do with when they must exit.

Far as the exit visa, I have never heard of such a thing here and would be interested to know where that is stamped. Far as I know, he can go anywhere he wants, and he may still try to apply for a visa within the region if he chooses, and may also apply for the 7 day extension.

Hi beechguy

Thank you for your reply. Anyone's help is very much appreciated.

So its an address report. Do you know why it would have March 23rd on it?

The exit visa I have no idea about. I dont think my dad fully understands, and I dont think he has really asked anyone for clarification. Im wondering if it just means his work permit comes to an end on January 31st and then is when he should leave the country. But then I dont understand about March 23rd on the report thing.

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Yes. Very confusing. Any chance of a scan of these stamps.

Hi Lite Beer

Thank you for your message.

If I was in Thailand I would definitely get a copy scanned. I was getting really frustrated with my dad none of it made sense. I think he just doesn't ask the right questions and gets things clarified.

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The company have got what I would call an extension for my dad until March 23rd. However the stamp says '90 days to report, this is not an extension' (or something like that).

They have then got him an exit visa (which supposedly one needs when they have a work permit) which says '31st January to England'.

Can my dad exit anywhere else now he has that stamp which says he must exit to England?

Electra, there are many knowledgeable folks here about visa issues... and I'd agree with LiteBeer, that it certainly would help to clarify things if you could scan (or take a digital photo) and post the stamps in your father's passport that you're referring to...

As for your comments above...

--there is a common 90-day reporting requirement for people on non-immigrant visas such as retirement visas... That doesn't have anything to do with a person's permitted length of stay in Thailand. It just means, a foreigner is required to file a report, by mail or in person, with Immigration if they've stayed in Thailand for 90 days at a time without leaving the country. Once a foreigner on such a visa leaves the country and re-enters, then a new 90-day period begins. It's merely an administrative, tracking deal... again...nothing to do with a person's permission to stay in Thailand.

--I don't know what you might be referring to regarding an "exit" visa... or anything where someone's passport is somehow stamped in Thailand ahead of time with a foreign country trip destination.

--And you're a bit fuzzy about the dates, referring at one point to an extension until March 23, but then talking about needing to leave on Jan. 31...

Seeing the actual passport stamps here would help a lot...

Thank you for your message. Yes sorry to direct the question to you, lots of people have responded before which has been great.

Would one have the 90-day reporting requirement if on a work permit? My dad said it had the date 23rd March on it. I am not sure what this means.

As for the exit visa, it was the first time I heard of it only my dad said today. He said on it was January 31st and England.

It is all really fuzzy, I think that maybe I just need to leave my dad to sort it out himself.

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The company have got what I would call an extension for my dad until March 23rd. However the stamp says '90 days to report, this is not an extension' (or something like that).

They have then got him an exit visa (which supposedly one needs when they have a work permit) which says '31st January to England'.

Can my dad exit anywhere else now he has that stamp which says he must exit to England?

Electra, there are many knowledgeable folks here about visa issues... and I'd agree with LiteBeer, that it certainly would help to clarify things if you could scan (or take a digital photo) and post the stamps in your father's passport that you're referring to...

As for your comments above...

--there is a common 90-day reporting requirement for people on non-immigrant visas such as retirement visas... That doesn't have anything to do with a person's permitted length of stay in Thailand. It just means, a foreigner is required to file a report, by mail or in person, with Immigration if they've stayed in Thailand for 90 days at a time without leaving the country. Once a foreigner on such a visa leaves the country and re-enters, then a new 90-day period begins. It's merely an administrative, tracking deal... again...nothing to do with a person's permission to stay in Thailand.

--I don't know what you might be referring to regarding an "exit" visa... or anything where someone's passport is somehow stamped in Thailand ahead of time with a foreign country trip destination.

--And you're a bit fuzzy about the dates, referring at one point to an extension until March 23, but then talking about needing to leave on Jan. 31...

Seeing the actual passport stamps here would help a lot...

Thank you for your message. Yes sorry to direct the question to you, lots of people have responded before which has been great.

Would one have the 90-day reporting requirement if on a work permit? My dad said it had the date 23rd March on it. I am not sure what this means.

As for the exit visa, it was the first time I heard of it only my dad said today. He said on it was January 31st and England.

It is all really fuzzy, I think that maybe I just need to leave my dad to sort it out himself.

I've just had a look on-line, and I think an exit visa could be a re-entry permit.

Your extended quotes to individually respond to each poster is making this thread extremely hard to follow. I understand you are trying to be responsive but it becomes overwhelming when trying to pick out details.

From last bit of information it would appear your father obtained a one year extension of stay (90 days before March 23) so would be required to make first address report on that date. A re-entry permit would thus be required for any travel and there is a place on form to enter travel information (although not required or enforced). He could call this an exit visa as it is required prior to exit if he intended to keep his current permitted to stay until stamp alive.

The Report Notification?

Is it a separate piece of paper stapled into his passport. If it is then it's a 90 day report reciept and notification of his next report.

The Re Entry Permit? No idea why it would have England on it. Maybe that is what he wrote on the form when applying.

Just to amplify on what LiteBeer and Lopburi have said above...

If the one item is a reporting date for a 90-day report for your father, it has nothing to do with his permission to stay in Thailand, or in any way restricts when or where he can travel outside Thailand. It merely means, if he's stayed continuously in Thailand by the time the 90 day point arrives without having left the country, he needs to submit some 90-day reporting paperwork to Immigration either in person or by mail.

Often for people on extensions of stay, Immigration will put a stamp in their passport saying something like "Notification of Residence Must Be Made Every 90 Days." And then also, staple or attach a paper slip into the passport regarding the 90 day reports that is supposed to be included when the person files their report later.

If the other item is a re-entry permit, once again, it has nothing to do with saying how long your father is permitted to stay in Thailand or when/where he may exit Thailand to. A re-entry permit, during the period it is valid, merely means the person can exit and return to Thailand during that period and still have their extension of stay remain valid. Without a re-entry permit, someone on extension of stay would have their extension canceled upon leaving Thailand.

And there are two flavors of re-entry permits that get stamped in a person's passport by Immigration: a single use one that keeps a person's extension alive for one trip out and back to Thailand, and a multiple entry one, that keeps their extension alive for unlimited trips out and back during its validity period. The permit stamp will say "Number of Permitted Entries" "Single" or "Multiple".

The re-entry permit stamp is a big box stamp that takes up half of a passport page and says in big letters at the top, "NON-IMM, Immigration Thailand Re-Entry Permit"

The extension of stay stamp, which is the one that DOES govern how long your father is permitted to stay in Thailand, is much less visible, and consists mostly of small sized stamp print.

It will say something like:

"Sub Div 1, BKK Imm. Div

Extension of stay permitted up to [THE DATE STAMP]

Holder must leave the kingdom within the date specified here. Offenders will be prosecuted."

Then it will have in cap letters the type of extension being granted, like "RETIREMENT"

And then the signature and signed date by the Immigration supervisor.

The date that governs a person's permission to stay is the first date listed above where I said THE DATE STAMP.

The second stamped date below it is just the date on which the approval is granted by Immigration.

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