The good ....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050906/en_af...le_050906082114

The bad ....

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/09/02/Worldand...rvive__wh.shtml

The ugly ....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050906/en_nm/deauville_dc_1

The good ....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050906/en_af...le_050906082114

"He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury and He saw a poor widow put in two copper coins. And He said, 'Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all of them; for they contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty put in all the living she had'."

The bad ....

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/09/02/Worldand...rvive__wh.shtml

We must not shy away - this disaster is a terrible thing.

The ugly ....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050906/en_nm/deauville_dc_1

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Sometimes the truth is ugly.

So who's going to take as gospel some two-bit actor's opinion? Brosnan is the worst James Bond to hit the screen anyhow...

So who's going to take as gospel some two-bit actor's opinion?  Brosnan is the worst James Bond to hit the screen anyhow...

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Even fools - sometimes especially fools - tell the truth.

So who's going to take as gospel some two-bit actor's opinion?  Brosnan is the worst James Bond to hit the screen anyhow...

Even fools - sometimes especially fools - tell the truth.

So...like, uh, what's the TRUTH here, Tom?

So who's going to take as gospel some two-bit actor's opinion?  Brosnan is the worst James Bond to hit the screen anyhow...

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Even fools - sometimes especially fools - tell the truth.

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So...like, uh, what's the TRUTH here, Tom?

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That the American administration is as quick on the draw as Elmor Thump, Mr. Magoo and Walter Mitty combined.

That too many US citizens treat NO as a toilet - both before, after and during the Flood.

So who's going to take as gospel some two-bit actor's opinion?  Brosnan is the worst James Bond to hit the screen anyhow...

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He is the worst Bond ever, isn't he ?

Still, to have Scientologists giving out help to NO refugees is for me highly suspicious. And having their spokeman do this kind of rescue work is also highly suspicious.

Not good. If you want to help, don't advertise with your church

The truth is it took too long for help to get to the scene and I hope we find out why. The National Guard and other military units should have been arriving at the coast 2 days before the hurricane made landfall...everyone new there were tens of thousands of people who didn't have the wherewithall to evacuate and since no plans were made to arrange for their evacuation then the federal gov't should have positioned caches of food in the best guess path of the hurricane...they should do this for all huricanes...of course it wouldn't be free to do this and it isn't going to benefit many rich people so I guess its kind of stupid to think that the richest and most powerful gov't in the world would do something so obvious.

Still, to have Scientologists giving out help to NO refugees is for me highly suspicious. And having their spokeman do this kind of rescue work is also highly suspicious.

Not good. If you want to help, don't advertise with your church

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Fruitcake logic!

The guy went there out of the goodness of his heart and because he had the financial resources and ability to deliver large quantities of aid with his privately owned 707 jet.

The fact that he and his helpers happen to be Scientologists is no more relevant than "x" percent of Red Cross volunteers being Catholic, "y" percent of doctors being Protestant, etc.

I suppose you would prefer an atheistic amoral society where everyone watched out for himself and felt &lt;deleted&gt;-all for everyone else.

I suppose you would prefer an atheistic amoral society where everyone watched out for himself and felt &lt;deleted&gt;-all for everyone else.

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No, that would be for the Libertarians, I am a communist, remember ?

So Scientology should be regarded like any religion for their rescue effort, not a sect ?

Seems to be me that they are recruiting, nothing else.

Just read on the news at Yahoo that the Canadians and Wal Mart both showed up in trucks in NO before the US federal guys did....

The Red Cross is appealing for people overseas to contribute money to its Hurricane Katrina Appeal. But why does the world's richest nation need handouts?

The Red Cross is appealing for people overseas to contribute money to its Hurricane Katrina Appeal. But why does the world's richest nation need handouts?

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Troll...basis: insincere question and insighting a flame.

I suppose you would prefer an atheistic amoral society where everyone watched out for himself and felt &lt;deleted&gt;-all for everyone else.

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No, that would be for the Libertarians, I am a communist, remember ?

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Told you that you should spend more time reading Webster's.

"Religion is the opiate of the masses." Karl Marx

"We demand complete disestablishment of the Church so as to be able to combat the religious fog with purely ideological and solely ideological weapons..." V.I. Lenin

(two of your heroes, right?)

I suppose you would prefer an atheistic amoral society where everyone watched out for himself and felt &lt;deleted&gt;-all for everyone else.

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No, that would be for the Libertarians, I am a communist, remember ?

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Told you that you should spend more time reading Webster's.

"Religion is the opiate of the masses." Karl Marx

"We demand complete disestablishment of the Church so as to be able to combat the religious fog with purely ideological and solely ideological weapons..." V.I. Lenin

(two of your heroes, right?)

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Actually yes. Did I mention I also have great admiration for Chavez and Castro ?

quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

The motto of the Bush enquiry into the administration's reaction to Katrina?

quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

The motto of the Bush enquiry into the administration's reaction to Katrina?

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Who is guarding the guards?

I don't get it. Where's the relevance?

Actually the motto of the Bush administration's reaction to Katrina will be:

"&lt;deleted&gt; happened with local, city and state emergency action plans and how can they be remedied in the future?"

Contrary to popular belief, the US is not a federal dictatorship. The federal government is not permitted by law, to simply march into local jurisdictions and impose their will. There is process, chain of command, and procedures for making these things happen. The federal resources were on the scene in little more than the minimum amount of time that they could have been.

Local government administrations were woefully impotent in their preparation and planning. React the right way and one is a hero. React the wrong way, and people can criticize, but at least one reacted. But to not react at all is the worst possible thing. The local administrations didn't react, period.

Day late and a dollar short, case in point:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a...rricane_katrina

quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

The motto of the Bush enquiry into the administration's reaction to Katrina?

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Who is guarding the guards?

I don't get it. Where's the relevance?

Actually the motto of the Bush administration's reaction to Katrina will be:

"&lt;deleted&gt; happened with local, city and state emergency action plans and how can they be remedied in the future?"

Of course it will. We wouldn't want the risk of any blame being placed on the President, would we? Was it former President Harry S. Truman who said, "The buck stops here"?

Contrary to popular belief, the US is not a federal dictatorship. The federal government is not permitted by law, to simply march into local jurisdictions and impose their will. There is process, chain of command, and procedures for making these things happen. The federal resources were on the scene in little more (whatever valued judgements you may make, 5 days delay, in reacting to the worst disaster in the republic's history, is considerable more than a little more) than the minimum amount of time that they could have been.

Local government administrations were woefully impotent in their preparation and planning. React the right way and one is a hero. React the wrong way, and people can criticize, but at least one reacted. But to not react at all is the worst possible thing. The local administrations didn't react, period.

Day late and a dollar short, case in point:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a...rricane_katrina

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here is one big positive for NO

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/3335685

The Navy has hired Houston-based Halliburton Co. to restore electric power, repair roofs and remove debris at three naval facilities in Mississippi damaged by Hurricane Katrina.

Halliburton subsidiary KBR will also perform damage assessments at other naval installations in New Orleans as soon as it is safe to do so.

KBR was assigned the work under a "construction capabilities" contract awarded in 2004 after a competitive bidding process. The company is not involved in the Army Corps of Engineers' effort to repair New Orleans' levees.

Her Filthiness, who once famously stated that she learned to turn a $1000 investment in cattle futures into $100,000 by reading the Wall Street Journal, offered this sage observation yesterday. Speaking before "the labor union-backed Alliance of Retired Americans" Hillary Clinton dug into her Katrina kit bag one more time. "Hurricane Katrina has taught us the perils of private retirement accounts. She asked her audience to picture a future of individual Social Security accounts — then the nation suffers a similar disaster.

"People would say, 'What am I going to do? Can I count on Social Security?' And the answer would be, well, we'll have to check on the stock market."

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Okay...

Dow Jones Industrial

Average on Aug. 24 - 10,450

Dow Jones Industrial

Average on Sept. 8 - 10,600

Her Filthiness....

Hey watch it, Boon Mee that's MY state Senator !

( But I have to admit, that picture IS funny! )

Yes, the picture is funny, but why the reference to her as "Her Filthiness"?

Is it because she's 100xs smarter than the morons that we currently have in the White House? Or, is it because if she actually ran in the last election, the current idiot that we now have wouldn't stand a chance? Why "Her Filthiness"?

These are all rhetorical questions, as your hypocrisy is plain to all.

How do you (Boon Mee) muster the nerve to allege shady business deals, while openly supporting the corrupt incompetents now running the Government?

Boggles the mind.

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How do you (Boon Mee)  muster the nerve to allege shady business deals, while openly supporting the corrupt incompetents now running the Government? 

Boggles the mind.

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Yes it do...Boggle The Mind there Kat!

Forget a little story re. 'Whitewater' and 'Travelgate' did ya!

Corrupt incompetents! You've just made MY day!

Hillary? Pure opportunist and word FAKE comes to mind everytime she speaks. There are far better women out there than her I'm afraid.

Hillary? Pure opportunist and word FAKE comes to mind everytime she speaks. There are far better women out there than her I'm afraid.

Absolutely Brit.

In fact, there was a poll (here we go again re. polls) recently that was taken in NY state of all places - BTW, a repudible poll at that - stating The Hildebeast would not make the best candidate on the Democratic ticket in '08.

Yes, she's definitely a fake and a scam artist. Also very dangerous - would try to turn America socialist in a big way...

Hillary? Pure opportunist and word FAKE comes to mind everytime she speaks. There are far better women out there than her I'm afraid.

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Absolutely Brit.

In fact, there was a poll (here we go again re. polls) recently that was taken in NY state of all places - BTW, a repudible poll at that - stating The Hildebeast would not make the best candidate on the Democratic ticket in '08.

Yes, she's definitely a fake and a scam artist. Also very dangerous - would try to turn America socialist in a big way...

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Y'all just love those red herrings don't ya?

The who what's and whys and maybes are all gonna be part of a Democratic presidential nomination race, and maybe a presidential election, when that time comes.

Right now there is a procrastinating, patronising and extremely un-empathetic president in the White House.

Shit, I've just realised - there are at least two contributes to these threads who pass that description also - and their names both rhyme with pee.

But I mustn't write that otherwise they would make a big fuss about flaming a la their other red herrings.

So I'll tell you what, I'll give them a chance.

If they can demonstrate they are not patronising (especially to any female political opponents) and display just a little empathy for the plight of those less fortunate than themselves, maybe, just maybe, we'll let them win the odd argument or two.

You've got two weeks, boys, I'm off on holiday tomorrow.

Be good, now.

Have a good holiday TM - rest those weary fingers!!!

Have a good holiday TM - rest those weary fingers!!!

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Thanks, Brit.

Be wary of strange bedfellows.

TM

Shit, I've just realised - there are at least two contributes to these threads who pass that description also - and their names both rhyme with pee.

blah... blah ... blah

You've got two weeks, boys, I'm off on holiday tomorrow.

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Typical lefty BS there TM. Take a cheap shot and then leave town. Just like a carpet-bagging hit and run driver. Enjoy your fantasy. Reality will still be here when you get back.