jpp2bkk Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 This kind of attitude is typical from a Banana republic minister frustrated to be so small on the international scene, what the west have to care about, it doesn't make any difference if Thailand do or say something. It's really laughable when this moron talk about sending military support in Libya, ah yes send what!!?? No ground operation, so what!!?? their decommissioned rusty aircraft carrier maybe haha. Even troupes on the ground would be crushed easily by Qaddafi's army. So small you are Thailand and you play arrogance!! Woop pak dee kua Khun Suthep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 An inflammatory post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I really hope this has been taken completely out of context. With an opinion like this, the future for Thailand is scary. We all say we don't want Thailand to be like the west. That's very true to a certain extent. But what about those of us who are in loving marriages with mixed children? It's not about us anymore. It's about our families. I don't care if this man is Asian and we all assume he's disrespecting 'white' people. Because in his mind's eye, he'll be picturing white people and not all the other races of people who make up our western countries. It's as racist as saying I don't respect black or middle eastern people. This statement is completely wrong. I don't want my kids growing up thinking this is ever acceptable. This should not be coming from the mouth of a 'so-called' educated man in such power. I still think this has been taken out of context. But just in case it hasn't, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it wasn't, these are my feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 An inflammatory post has been removed. Did Suthep get a week's suspension as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardholder Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 monitors don't have to be "the westerners", they might be from asean or from any other country in the world. Excellent point. Although Thailand has procrastinated over Asean observers in the border dispute. Suthep is good at isolating himself, and he typifies the xenphobic indoctrination that prevents many Thais from believing in anything other than their own superiority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janverbeem Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 "I don't respect 'farangs'. We do not have to surrender to them," he said, using the Thai word for "Westerners".<BR sab="619"><BR sab="620"> So where are the Thaier than Thai members now who always say that only paranoid farangs think the Thais don't want us here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardholder Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 An inflammatory post has been removed. Did Suthep get a week's suspension as well ? +1 :cheesy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 It wasn't taken out of context. It was an intentional statement made for INTERNAL consumption. Xenophobia in Thailand, and many countries for that matter, is politically smart. We consumed it too. That part was unintentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiebebe Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Although what Thaugsuban said was rude and jarring, I imagine he felt deep embarassment even having to make the rejection in public. Can you imagine Obama having to publically reject proposals for Thai election monitors? (Okay, crazy thought, but the same pinciple) Resonding to this stuff in public is humiliating to the Deputy PM. I've lived in Bangkok for five years now and I've seen how elections work; my wife's family live just outside Bangkok and all get paid to vote the right way (Abhisit). They rationalise that if they don't take the money (500/person last time) the local dude will keep it anyway - you gotta respect that logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nisa Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I find the statement disgusting, racist, and xenophobic. What if Vice President Biden publicly announced, I don't respect Asians! Don't make excuses for this kind of thing, that's so Thai-ier than Thou it isn't even funny. I think Biden along with a number of other VPs in the US have said things just as strange and//or offence. Biden talking about Obama when running against him, "You got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." I remember another time he said, "“You cannot enter a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have an Indian Accent”" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalkingMan Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Ahhhh sounds like a quote from the bar at Mos Eisley Station. I think, and maybe I am wrong, but this is a big reason why Thailand lags in cleaning up some areas. The reluctance to accept offshore suggestions is not good. TheWalkingMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKvampire Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Well the Deputy Pm should not make a generalisation, Certainly there are many Thais I dont respect >MANY. As far as rejecting any outside election monitors, Western or otherwise , what a sad indictment of Thailand political system. After the , court challenges , removal of MPs because of illegal voting he should be happy to see independent monitors, Perhaps though he just wants Thailand to continue on its path to anarchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 'International' monitors would be completely useless as none of them would speak Thai or have the slightest clue what is going on. You'd have the situation like during last years riots, where people are saying in English we are peaceful and democratic and in Thai to prepare to burn down the city. And if their violence and intimidation campaign is successful they would whitewash their crimes by pointing to the clueless, ineffectual foreigners who neither saw nor heard what happened. The 'don't respect farang' comment is out of line if that was what was said I can agree with this observation. The contradictory remarks from farang living upcountry only seems to emphasize this. Still I wonder how k. Suthep's Thai speech goes like properly translated ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I reckon the Dems will win anyway and in the subsequent cabinet reshuffle, Suthep will get Foreign Minister portfolio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eateer Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) This kind of attitude is typical from a Banana republic minister frustrated to be so small on the international scene, what the west have to care about, it doesn't make any difference if Thailand do or say something. It's really laughable when this moron talk about sending military support in Libya, ah yes send what!!?? No ground operation, so what!!?? their decommissioned rusty aircraft carrier maybe haha. Even troupes on the ground would be crushed easily by Qaddafi's army. So small you are Thailand and you play arrogance!! Woop pak dee kua Khun Suthep. They were talking about sending military to Libya? Please tell me thats a joke, as a former Marine i would feel pretty confident invading Thailand with just a company of Marines. Edited March 24, 2011 by eateer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elshaheen Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) It is so nice to hear a member of Thai government finally admit to the press. "Suthep: "I don't respect 'farangs'. We do not have to surrender to them" So, then what is he going to do next, if we are still coming to his country as tourists, spending money here, etc. When he travels abroad to a western country, I would love to see a westerner spit in his face and tell him," I don't respect Thai's, either now get back on your plane and go back to Thailand". Edited March 24, 2011 by elshaheen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTumTiger Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Foolish Old Goat - does he not realise that with Election monitors there is less of a likelihood that the Reds will get away with large scale vote-buying which has (allegedly) happened in the past? This would give his party a much better chance of getting voted back in... ... unless of course, the Dems are planning on chucking around a few mill in vote buying You assume that the vote buying happens at or near the polls - you assume wrong. It happens days before, in other places, with hardly any chance to catch it. Doesn't matter anyway. Reds will lose - they lost a year ago, when they decided to torch the capital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nisa Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 'International' monitors would be completely useless as none of them would speak Thai or have the slightest clue what is going on. You'd have the situation like during last years riots, where people are saying in English we are peaceful and democratic and in Thai to prepare to burn down the city. And if their violence and intimidation campaign is successful they would whitewash their crimes by pointing to the clueless, ineffectual foreigners who neither saw nor heard what happened. The 'don't respect farang' comment is out of line if that was what was said Not only that but the elections are actually the smaller problem ... it is having a party actually get through a term once they've been elected. I too think his comment was out of line and politically incorrect but also believe any country with an established government feels the same way about letting foreigners (especially more powerful ones) come into their country and judge and monitor them let alone tell them how to do things. It is not like many of these Western countries truly do things out of the goodness of their heart. Even with what is going on in Libya ... you have to be a bit naive to believe the reason for the current assault is actually based on protecting Libyan citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 The lotus leaf is shrinking and the elephant is showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I don't respect 'farangs' "TAT advertising slogan 2011" PS - Does anyone respect racist old farts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I don't respect 'farangs' "TAT advertising slogan 2011" PS - he may not respect us....but i wonder if he understands why, in light of his comments, we pity him. A dying breed thankfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) idontrespectfarangs.com DOMAIN AVAILABLE! Edited March 24, 2011 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surayu Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I think we can all agree on one thing, the honesty of this guy to say what he really think is admirable so if anyones had a doubt before, i don't think he could have been any more clear than this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisico Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Of course Suthep has to feel ignited having Farangs supervise elections in Thailand. Thailand's sterling record of Democracy and respect for the rule of law warrants his contempt for Farangs. Remember that song? "I don't want your love, all I want is your money." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawnie Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Not a very smart or politically astute comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawnie Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) bump Edited March 24, 2011 by Jawnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberkommando Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 The feeling is mutual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Reading some of my young Thai niece's schoolbooks it's no wonder they end up which such a twisted xenophobic view of reality. Taught (indoctrinated) from a very young age how special the Thai people are compared to everyone else. Such a pity that such a beautiful country has such a high % of simpleminded fools populating it. Spot one, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vont Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Suthep's comments might seem a bit harsh and inappropriate (they are!), but if you ask any Thai - who isn't an ardent red shirt - how they feel about foreign election monitors, you'll probably get a similar response! NOT so Many a ordinary Thai does desire THIRD PARTY INDEPENDENT observers during polling. For any deputy to refuse a third party observer seems to send out the message that there might be something cooking illegally. Deputy SuThep is clearly inappropriate and breaking with protocol in any non-communist country. He has been speaking with fork-tongue like many whitemen in the past. The very fact that he has been personally blocking any and all efforts generated to decommission felon and former PM Tuxsin demonstrates clearly that he really is personally drumming up deals with Tuxsin and associates and also Camb HuSen behind democratic party banner and behind all loyal Thai citizen. imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puyaidon Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Suthep, I don't respect you. You should be put out to pasture and pass into oblivion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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