Complaints Filed Against Topless Women Dancing During Songkran.

[Soutpeel]

WHAT A BIG JOKE - FUNNY AND SADLY AT THE SAME TIME !!!!

THERE ARE REALLY SO MANY PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY AND PEOPLE NEED TO WASTE THEIR TIME TO PUNISH TOPLESS GIRLS ON STREETS !!!

MEANWHILE MORE THAN 70 % OF THESE 80 % OR HOW MUCH EVER PERCENT OF SORROWFUL PARENTS IN ISARN STILL NEED TO SEND THEIR DAUGHTERS TO BANGKOK OR PATTAYA TO MAKE MONEY WITH FARANGS, BECAUSE IT SEEM TO BE STILL IMPOSSIBLE TO BUILD UP ECONOMICAL GROWTH WITH SOME MONEY OF S O M E PEOPLE WHO OBVIOUSLY HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH !!!!

I FEEL MUCH SHAME AS WELL - BUT CERTAINLY N O T FOR THOSE GIRLS, WHO JUST WANTED MAKE A HARMLESS PARTY !!!!!!

NOT EASY TO CLOSE MOTH HERE, REALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DID I OFFEND SOMEONE ??? I GUESS NOT

I will concede that some of the TV members due to their advancing age may be hard of hearing, but for the rest of us.....PLEASE DONT SHOUT.....Thank you...

[davidA]

I have read the comments posted on these pages by people arguing about what is obscene and what is not obscene. about what is fun and what not is fun.About what is culture and whether it's modern or traditional.i have read about a man who stand's up in public and say's he is worried for the reputation of his country and obviously how the rest of Asia and maybe the world view's this behaviour. there are all sorts of never ending arguments over this,there is the question of corruption and prostitution which are timeless old chestnut's that will be with us (as one reader say's"where there are people") for ever and will never be stopped 100%.I have read all this on these pages,and i agree with some and disagree with others.I think out of all these question's the tricky one is the reputation of a country,as that would encompass all the others,and generally would give the consensus as how that country is viewed,my question is......What does the wrld think of a country that fiercely wants to protect it's image,culture and reputation but releases a driver (temporarily we are told) who,through speeding,kills a young girl on the road,nearly cut's her in half and all he has to do,is say sorry,the girl's family will be recompensed,will the payment be pro rata to the girl's family social standing in this country and who will work this out?will we be advised on that dreadful programme "pattaya new's" or will this,like so many other thing's be forgotten?

[webfact]

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[farang000999]

I am curious what they do for a living professionally.

[bbradsby]

Much posturing & harumphing by public figures in the media spotlight... what could all this be about? Oh, right, it's election season, and Auslanders are always easy targets for politicians and wannabees

[Soutpeel]

Police charged the ladyboys with obscene behavior in public and fined them 500 baht each before releasing them with a warning.

"Thai transvestites"..... one would assume these are not transexuals..ie not had bits chopped off or added, but blokes dressing up as women..

Ergo...any male who walks around shirtless in Thailand should be charged THB 500 as well and made to wear tradtional Thai dress's.....

Ergo...Males dressing up in womens traditional thai dress' is preserving good Thai culture.....

Got to love the logic in this article...

[DP25]

Police charged the ladyboys with obscene behavior in public and fined them 500 baht each before releasing them with a warning.

Oh noes, a 500 baht fine and a warning for public stripping by transexuals, what draconian punishments. Assuming they could do this in the US without being beaten to a pulp (they couldn't in many places) they would get much worse

[pisico]

In my experience, exposed breasts on public streets is unconventional even in the sex-for-sale venues. To me, what is even more alarming is this:

Culture Watch Centre director Ladda Tangsupachai yesterday disclosed that Nipit also instructed her to officially ask the National Police Office and the ICT Ministry to ban the video clips on the Internet.

I would say that this is a slippery slope, except that Thailand has already raced to the bottom of the slope w/r internet censorship.

Any similarity with Sharia Law Police is purely coincidental.

Do not ingest! This comment is to be applied locally.

[davidA]

The old songkran scam as beautifully performed by the tourist police...This is how it goes...

Blue water pump seller sell's pumps in the morning to those who want to indulge in the day's activities

they go for 150 baht each, a reveller buy's 2,one for him and one for his girlie.

Seller takes his money,gives him his good,s..all seem's legal and above board.

Half way through the day,seller run's out of pump's,think,s,"dam_n! should have brought more pump's"

Seller goes to friendly tourist police and whispers in his ear.

An hour later,tourist police turn up at soi 'wet and fun and relieve all the people,who thought they legally purchased their good's of said pumps,saying they are illegal.

Conclusion

The pump's are given back to the seller and the whole songkran ballet begin's again

Now,this is criminal corruption and a wonderful way of changing the name of 'soi wet and fun'to just'Soi wet' oh! and 'miserable'

[StreetCowboy]

waow it s time to the people complain to go NANA SOI cowboy street and Bangna have a lot 500 bath for you there

be serious this is party ntohing wrong

Bangna?

Where in Bangna? If it does not contravene the discussion of specifics rules...

My earlier post highlighted that different standards should apply within the sort of dubious places you and I frequent, and the public street

SC

[John71]

As much as I to enjoy seeing beautiful naked breasts, if the law and tradition and culture is for them to only be seen behind closed doors then possible hypocrisy, corruption, or not those responsible will have to face the consequences. Just because I come from a country and society that tolerates/encourages partial or full nudity on beaches and in some public places gives me no right to expect it to be acceoted and/or become the norm to other countries and cultures. To those responsible and who sought to profit from the actions and event, all I can say is, "som num na" (Thai for you get what you deserve). I think it's also important to understand, that even though the one incident may seem to many to be insignificant, to officials the idea of it becoming a common occurrence /tradition at Songkran and/or any time during the year must be far more disturbing, hence the need to take quick and decisive action.

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Here are the before & after pics of the topless dancing girls on Ministry of Culture's website http://yfrog.com/h4nvfpkj

Source: Richard Barrow

[Dukeleto]

And to all those people who write posts that Thailand is tolerant and there are not as many laws and restrictions on personal freedom, and that’s why they are here. Well...I suspect you have more personal freedom with regards to displaying your breasts in public back home than here. Personally I think there are just as many laws here, if not more, but its the liberal application and use of those laws when it suits those who apply them, without much consistency that gives the impression of more freedom. Not a criticism, just my personal freedom to voice my observation...or do I get a two thirds fine for observation...tricky.

[Macmundi]

At least they are real girls. The really offensive ones are the trannys!! Now that is terribly offensive. Those are forced sights. The ones we try to avoid seeing. :bah:

[pisico]

After observing Songkran in Bangkok for a couple days (and I was at Silom) I couldn't help but think this is a Thai tradition that has gone out of control...totally missing the theme of its original purpose. At one time, the sprinkling (NOTE: I said sprinkling, not spraying) of water was to mean good luck and a new beginnning for the new year; now, it is three days of wasting and demeaning a precious natural resource, water. Next, the buckets and buckets of white paste leaves its mark (when thrown) on the street, stores, signs, Skytrain steps.... an ughly mess. And all the plastic containers that are not recycled. Instead of the city authorities thinking topless female dancers is not following the Thai tradition of Songkran, they better ask themselves about the waste of water, the filth it generates, and the cost it takes to clean the Songkran areas up. (Heck, most local BKK Thais leave the city. The wild Songkran celebration certainly doesn't bring in revenue for the city.... oh, maybe for the vendors selling the plastic water guns made in China or the buckets of white paste.

Where is Mary Poppins when we need her?

P.S: If you think this Songkran was bad, never go to Brazil during Carnival time. I know, I lived there for over 5 years.

:jap:

[Just1Voice]

After observing Songkran in Bangkok for a couple days (and I was at Silom) I couldn't help but think this is a Thai tradition that has gone out of control...totally missing the theme of its original purpose. At one time, the sprinkling (NOTE: I said sprinkling, not spraying) of water was to mean good luck and a new beginnning for the new year; now, it is three days of wasting and demeaning a precious natural resource, water. Next, the buckets and buckets of white paste leaves its mark (when thrown) on the street, stores, signs, Skytrain steps.... an ughly mess. And all the plastic containers that are not recycled. Instead of the city authorities thinking topless female dancers is not following the Thai tradition of Songkran, they better ask themselves about the waste of water, the filth it generates, and the cost it takes to clean the Songkran areas up. (Heck, most local BKK Thais leave the city. The wild Songkran celebration certainly doesn't bring in revenue for the city.... oh, maybe for the vendors selling the plastic water guns made in China or the buckets of white paste.

Where is Mary Poppins when we need her?

P.S: If you think this Songkran was bad, never go to Brazil during Carnival time. I know, I lived there for over 5 years.

:jap:

And try New Orleans during Mardi Gras. Makes Songkran look tame by comparison.

[theanimaster]

The government doesn't set good exampled for itself. Rampant cheating and blatant criminals getting away with everything simply because they're wealthy is a good example for every Thai to follow. Oh yeah. Keepin' it up, Amazing Thailand.

Yeah, if I had a daughter I would just LOVE for these topless drunks to be reading them bedtime stories and setting good examples. NOT.

On the otherhand, I wouldn't mind them reading ME bedtime stories... though I wonder about me two boys...

[Sabre]

Personally I don't want to see too many Western influences in Thailand, I love the country just the way it is.

You mean like the western tradition of wearing bras?

So essentially you're advocating that women should return to the Thai tradition of going topless ...

[moggoid]

Breast are great, guys love them, girls love them, they are to be celebrated and adored in public, in the office, at home and on rooftops. If you are offended by bare breasts in any shape or form weather in public or in private you seriously need to get a life.

[Samuian]

"tar and feathers, torture them have they lost their minds to cause such harm to this innocent, pure and heavenly society, which is entirely without any fault, the hram done is immeasurable!"

[khaowong1]

He said that the clip has negatively affected the image of Thai culture and that all parties involved with such behaviour should be punished, while asking police to give importance to this issue, for it destroys the country's reputation.

Just what does he think Thailand's reputation is? Shocking how this wonderful pure society will be marred by these hussies! The fact they are allowed to flaunt themselves in public and sell their bodies with impunity in bars often owned by policemen is doing far, far worse damage.

500 Baht for dancing topless; 100,000 baht or 5 years for uploading the video to Youtube... The message is that it is not a big deal to dance topless in public - as long as nobody finds out. Pretty much like Thai politics...

ha ha ha... good one, and to the point..

[ChangMaiSausage]

Drama drama what will we do for the rest of the year? Mountain and mole hill come to mind

Anyone for topless volley ball?

[animatic]

"tar and feathers, torture them have they lost their minds to cause such harm to this innocent, pure and heavenly society, which is entirely without any fault, the hram done is immeasurable!"

Where is that irony smiley when you REALLY need it!

[webfact]

ABAC Poll: Thai society deteriorating

BANGKOK, 18 April 2011 (NNT) – The recent news report regarding a group of half-naked young women splashing water on Silom Road in Bangkok reflects a deteriorating Thai society, according to a recent survey by Assumption University Research Center (ABAC Poll).

The survey was conducted with 1,134 respondents aged more than 18 years old in Bangkok and vicinities from 16 to 17 April 2011. The respondents were asked for their opinion about a group of young women enjoying Songkran in Silom with bare breasts.

94.3% of the respondents said they saw the news report, of whom 91.8% indicated that the Thai society had been deteriorating for a long time.

74.9% of the respondents said adults in the society had failed to provide good examples for young people while 71.7% pointed out that those young women misbehaved by themselves. 56.2% believed the criticized ladies had such a foul behaviour ever since they were in their families.

87.9% of the respondents expressed concerns over the future generation of the Thai society. 89.6% agreed that punishment for obscenity offenders should be harsher while 88.7% supported the same move for pornography distributors.

On the case of Silom girls, 83.7% of the respondents suggested that related authorities should be punished for allowing the scene to happen while 82.5% thought local administrative authorities responsible for the district where the incident took place should be punished too.

-- NNT 2011-04-18

[Arkady]

What is the big fuss about topless girls/women the breasts are not sexual organs no more than a mans nipples

Wrong. Two ladyboys were arrested and fined in Pichit for exposing their (male) breasts and nipples.

[Tywais]

As mentioned by a mod on page one of this topic, request for or posting links to the video will be removed.

Besides, it's academic as the video has been removed due to TOS violation.

[animatic]

Mankind:

The only animal the insists on covering itself for reasons other than protection from the elements or stealth.

Edited April 18, 2011 by animatic

[Arkady]

Will the police have more success in tracking down the perpetrators and abettors of this heinous crime than they have so far had in tracking down the murderers of lawyer Somchai Neelapaijit, the murderer of Kirsty Jones, the would be assassins of Yellow Shirt leader Sondhi Limtrakool etc, etc?

The boys in brown actually seem far more suited to this kind of work. They did a great job in nailing Nong Natt for making a porno film with a Japanese man and made sure she paid a substantial (and only partially receipted) fine for indecent exposure and that her legit modelling and soap opera career was cut short. They have also shown their mettle in catching Ukrainian hookers red handed and selflessly submitted their own semen in condoms as evidence of the women's crimes. I think we can guarantee a speedy outcome in this case, while the above mentioned murderers remain free to kill again and again at the behest of their well connected patrons.

[SabaiBKK]

I watched the uncensored video and it is still out there.

This is extremely bad for the country's image around the world.

It has the semblance of the Brits loutish behaviour in the Spanish holiday resorts.

It is simply done in bad taste and should be kept in the bars. In fact these girls have brought the bar culture out onto the streets in full view of children and for the world to see.

A 500 baht fine is a joke for lowering Thailand's image to rock bottom.

I guess that the pillocks who uploaded the video onto the Internet are shiteing their pants right now and the girls claim to fame has backfired on them.

You are joking, i hope..........

No I am certainly not joking.

This event may seem harmless enough, but this leads to other things and sooner or later becomes more extreme.

For example, in Britain young teens and thugs have practically taken over the streets and this is exactly how it all starts if rules are relaxed.

Personally I don't want to see too many Western influences in Thailand, I love the country just the way it is.

Boundaries need to be drawn otherwise it will lead to the demise of the whole of Thai culture, just as what has happened in the UK.

I am not a prude or in anyway against this sort of thing, providing it is done at the right places, only for adults and not as a public spectacle for all and sundry.

I agree whole-heartedly. I fully support the desire to get prostitutes off the streets, and pornography, and violent weapons.

Those of us who need to, know where to go for such things, and there is no need to make them available on the streets to otherwise-innocents.

SC

I don't think anyone was suggesting these prosecutions as an alternative to enforcing laws and regulations; I am all for reducing accident rates on the roads

you guys tend to forget that before Mr "anti-sanook" Purachai started his crusade against night clubs, you never saw any prostitutes on the sidewalks of sukhumvit as all the trade was taking place in discos until the wee hours.no illegal bars, no prostitutes, no 2.00am meat market at soi 4 were ever seen on the sidewalks before that. now this guy put the prostitutes in the streets right in the face of tourist famillies yet no one has complained against this .

[SabaiBKK]

Police charged the ladyboys with obscene behavior in public and fined them 500 baht each before releasing them with a warning.

"Thai transvestites"..... one would assume these are not transexuals..ie not had bits chopped off or added, but blokes dressing up as women..

Ergo...any male who walks around shirtless in Thailand should be charged THB 500 as well and made to wear tradtional Thai dress's.....

Ergo...Males dressing up in womens traditional thai dress' is preserving good Thai culture.....

Got to love the logic in this article...

Please note that when I arrived in thailand the first time back in 1992, it was in all the guides that it was a big no no for foreigners to walk around shirtless in bangkok, you would get fined.

now ok to fine the girls , thats the law , but stirring up the thing like this is way too much and will have the reverse effect , as it makes publicity about the incident. Funny how the bigots, not only thais, usually cause more damage to the image of their countries than the incident they denounce.

Edited April 18, 2011 by SabaiBKK

[jimbeam1]

Just remind me how many people were killed over Songkran, how many buckets of water were thrown into the faces of motorcyclists causing a some to fall off, I know of one young girl that was killed in such an incident and people are causing such a fuss over these two young women having fun - pathetic.

Exactly that. Plus you can download the video of half a girl being lifted out of a Porsche?