Renewing Retirement Visa

[daveb1]

Quick couple of questions.

1. Can you make your retirement visa last 15 months by reporting just before it runs out for another 90 days or does it have to be renewed after 12 months.

2 If you can make it last 15 months can you then deposit your next 800,000 baht just before that final 90 days or does it have to be done 90 days before the original 12 months runs out?

Thanks in advance

[InterestedObserver]

1. A multiple-entry non-immigrant "O" visa can be stretched out to 15 months by making your final 90 day entry just before the visa expires.

2. Your 800,000 baht has to be on deposit in a Thai bank for at least 2 months prior to the initial application for a one-year extension of stay based on retirement from immigration. You can usually apply for a one-year extension of stay 30 days before your current permission (90 day) stamp expires.

[lopburi3]

What are you calling a retirement visa? The long stay (retirement) visa is a non immigrant O-A issued in single entry and multi entry versions. These provide one year stay on entry. There is also a non immigrant O visa which is what provides 90 day stays (normally issued for marriage) and if you enter just before expiration can provide up to almost 15 months of such 90 day stays.

[daveb1]

What are you calling a retirement visa? The long stay (retirement) visa is a non immigrant O-A issued in single entry and multi entry versions. These provide one year stay on entry. There is also a non immigrant O visa which is what provides 90 day stays (normally issued for marriage) and if you enter just before expiration can provide up to almost 15 months of such 90 day stays.

1 year retirement visa (not marrige) reporting to local immigration every 90 days does that make a difference?

[lopburi3]

I suspect you are reporting your address every 90 days as the visa does not require reporting to immigration and that you have a non immigrant O-A (you submitted police report and medical in home country to obtain?). But the question remains is it single or multi entry? Very important to know.

For a single entry O-A you received on entry a stamp for one year stay and within 30 days before it expires you should present financials to extend for another year. As you are technically on a one year extension of stay (received on entry) they may (not sure they will) require the full 3 months in bank account - a normal non immigrant 90 day entry would only require 60 days on the first extension of stay.

For a multi entry O-A you receive a one year stamp on any entry prior to expiration so if you return the day before it expires (the visa itself) you get a new one year permitted to stay stamp. Any travel during this period would require the normal re-entry permit to keep it alive.

[InterestedObserver]

What are you calling a retirement visa? The long stay (retirement) visa is a non immigrant O-A issued in single entry and multi entry versions. These provide one year stay on entry. There is also a non immigrant O visa which is what provides 90 day stays (normally issued for marriage) and if you enter just before expiration can provide up to almost 15 months of such 90 day stays.

1 year retirement visa (not marrige) reporting to local immigration every 90 days does that make a difference?

Oh Boy! Reporting to local immigration every 90 days is an address report for people on one-year extensions of stay. Has nothing to do with visa or extension of stay renewal issues, and certainly does not give another 90 days stay in Thailand. The OP needs to be very specific what he has in his passport.

[daveb1]

I think Its a normal retirement visa extension of stay says retirement in my passport on the imigration stamp

[Jingthing]

I think Its a normal retirement visa extension of stay says retirement in my passport on the imigration stamp

OK.

Apply for you annual extension 30 days or less before expiration of your current annual permission to stay (two months early at Jomtien should be OK). If using the 800K method, season the money for three months. Address reporting is not related to your extensions.

BTW, this isn't "renewing your retirement visa"; rather its applying for an annual extension of stay based on retirement.

If you are too late to season your money, don't panic, just go to a Thai embassy/consulate in Laos or Malaysia and get a new single entry O visa and start over in Thailand with a new extension of stay. In that case, the seasoning requirement should be two months, not three.

Cheers.

[daveb1]

I think Its a normal retirement visa extension of stay says retirement in my passport on the imigration stamp

OK.

Apply for you annual extension 30 days or less before expiration of your current annual permission to stay (two months early at Jomtien should be OK). If using the 800K method, season the money for three months. Address reporting is not related to your extensions.

BTW, this isn't "renewing your retirement visa"; rather its applying for an annual extension of stay based on retirement.

Cheers.

Ok thanks but still not quite clear say my current extension of stay runs out on the 1st of december could (ie thats 12 months back from when i first got the extension stamped in my passport) can i then get a final 90 days report in on the 30th of november or would i have to start the 800k process and apply for a new years extension from 12 months after the last 1 year retirement extension was granted? Does that make sense!

[InterestedObserver]

I think Its a normal retirement visa extension of stay says retirement in my passport on the imigration stamp

In that case there is no 15 month option. The extension of stay expires on the date stated. Go to immigration 30 days prior to that expiration date and renew for another year, assuming you have had your 800,000 baht on deposit in a Thai bank for 3 months.

[Jingthing]

Sorry, I don't get you.

Please SEPARATE these two things in your mind --

1. Expiration of your annual permission to stay

2. The date stamped on your 90 day address reports telling you when to report again

They are NOT related.

The expiration date for your current ANNUAL permission to stay based on retirement will be on on the stamp area where RETIREMENT is stamped in your passport. That is the relevant date for your deadline to extend. Also this is important -- the SEASONING time is based on the date of your APPLICATION to extend, not the deadline date. So if you went in a month before expiration, the seasoning would actually be FOUR MONTHS before the actual expiration date. But you don't have to go in early, you choose the application date as long as it's before the expiration date. You don't lose any time on your new extension if you go in early, the new extension begins right after the old expiration date either way.

Again, FORGET the paper slip for the address reports. Well, don't forget the reports of course, but realize they have nothing to do with your extension dates.

[daveb1]

I think Its a normal retirement visa extension of stay says retirement in my passport on the imigration stamp

In that case there is no 15 month option. The extension of stay expires on the date stated. Go to immigration 30 days prior to that expiration date and renew for another year, assuming you have had your 800,000 baht on deposit in a Thai bank for 3 months.

Got it! Thank you for your advice and help

[lopburi3]

If you have an immigration stamp it is not a visa but a one year extension of stay for retirement. You must apply for a new one within the last 30 days and if using only bank deposit in needs to be in account for 3 months on date of application.

[InterestedObserver]

Ok thanks but still not quite clear say my current extension of stay runs out on the 1st of december could (ie thats 12 months back from when i first got the extension stamped in my passport) can i then get a final 90 days report in on the 30th of november or would i have to start the 800k process and apply for a new years extension from 12 months after the last 1 year retirement extension was granted? Does that make sense!

What is the expiration date stamped on your extension of stay? That is the date by which you have to renew the extension of stay. Ninety day address reports have no bearing on the issue!