jdinasia Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Anyone have a transcript of what he actually said during the rally, i'm curious to see it +I believe it was something along the lines of "go - burn it down tell them I sent you - tell them to come for me" Now they have - tell him to keep a bed warm for Thaksin You believe wrong. Wrong Rally, wrong person, but don't let that get in the way of your beliefs. Are you sure? Those don't appear to be Arisaman's words and Jatuporn also called for arson ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Well light the torches and rampage, the mouth is silenced. Hard to believe, but then again he knew no sense of moderation and hung himself on his own petard. So one other, Nisit wit, goes with him, and so far other less vitreous voices are still free. Will this be the good excuse for reds to go over the edge? If so then most Thais will notice and vote accordingly. This thread will no doubt fill up to the brim with New Members.... and all with similar lines of... ac cc chemmm, thought. Where did you go to school? Haha, I think he refers to... ac cc chemmm, vitreous humour... Mind you, I have seen worse on these forums - strong opinion seems often seems to be expressed with a weak vocabulary, absence of correct punctuation and poor spelling (despite the built-in spell check) and other superfluous traits of Old Members. vitreous ; shiny and brittle, glascine, transparent. All show, and transparent false ideas, cracked easily. Also having to do with the area in the eyes vitreous humour But not in this case. As to using vocabulary 'more than is sufficient or required; excessive.' Nothing is lost with the choice of a good word versus a common word, words are like acquired talents, use them or lose them. Or was this just being supercilious to complain about being superfluousness? Punctuated in the vernacular as I see fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Anyone have a transcript of what he actually said during the rally, i'm curious to see it +I believe it was something along the lines of "go - burn it down tell them I sent you - tell them to come for me" Now they have - tell him to keep a bed warm for Thaksin You believe wrong. Wrong Rally, wrong person, but don't let that get in the way of your beliefs. Uh, PPD, that was sarcasm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) He maybe party list he maybe constituency, he maybe the easter bunny, but he surely is a hardcore recidivist, with no respect for the laws that don't benefit him, even by Thai standards He is absolutely where he belongs. I am hoping they deny bail until his trial on the APril 10th 2011 charges (should be a fast and easy court case!) Then he can wait in jail until the AG is ready to push the terrorism charges through. Please enlighten us all. To the best of my knowlege his bail was revoked /denied because of remarks he made on April 10 . This related to earlier charges of terrorism. Can you please tell us about these new " APril 10th 2011 charges" . Do you have insider information that he is now charged concerning those remarks on April 10 ? Same incident but two sets of charges. His earlier Racha. Rally charges he was out on bail on, and now the april 10, 2011 charges, that he will soon be answering for. The actions of getting the new charges, was enough to withdraw his earlier bail, but the new charges will shortly follow in court. Especially fast filing now, since he is NOT an MP now... Edited May 12, 2011 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 He maybe party list he maybe constituency, he maybe the easter bunny, but he surely is a hardcore recidivist, with no respect for the laws that don't benefit him, even by Thai standards He is absolutely where he belongs. I am hoping they deny bail until his trial on the APril 10th 2011 charges (should be a fast and easy court case!) Then he can wait in jail until the AG is ready to push the terrorism charges through. Please enlighten us all. To the best of my knowlege his bail was revoked /denied because of remarks he made on April 10 . This related to earlier charges of terrorism. Can you please tell us about these new " APril 10th 2011 charges" . Do you have insider information that he is now charged concerning those remarks on April 10 ? http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2011/04/14/national/Red-leaders-vow-to-retalIate-after-army-fIles-lese-30153149.html ... No I have what should be common knowledge, not insider knowledge .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Well light the torches and rampage, the mouth is silenced. Hard to believe, but then again he knew no sense of moderation and hung himself on his own petard. So one other, Nisit wit, goes with him, and so far other less vitreous voices are still free. Will this be the good excuse for reds to go over the edge? If so then most Thais will notice and vote accordingly. This thread will no doubt fill up to the brim with New Members.... and all with similar lines of... ac cc chemmm, thought. Where did you go to school? Probably also a question of: When did you go to school? Or how many decades ago? Always read, always study, always learn. No point in stopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Agreed. But then again that is why Thailand is not a functioning democracy. Reason for edit. Post to which I referred has been removed. actually Thailand is not a functioning democracy because their is no concept of equality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman1 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Could some journalist out there please please please interview the woman wearing that "wikileaks" shirt one-on-one for opinions on Assange and his uneasy relationship with the media...? Or is she wearing it because she was told to? /edit to add - stupid tossers. You guys seem upset. Bless. So, rude AND smugly condescending. You are quite multi-talented. I was just saying that your post seemed decidedly stupid-tosser-esque. Thanks for your concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 The standard of debate on here just keeps going up and up....................... When people post one-liners like this and your last one, you certainly can't be accused of raising the bar any .... Jatuporn is in jail. The fact that he was given so much slack for so long, and the fact that he wasn't impeached speaks volumes about just how far "free speech" is tolerated in Thailand. He crossed the line so many times that with the sentencing/imprisonment of many PAD folks over the last 4 months, that it may be Jatuporn's turn in the barrel. I expect he'll get a lot longer than most others to think about his various crimes. You've read many of my posts I'm sure. As far as the posts that I was replying to were concerned (basically comparing Jaturporn to an ape, complete with pictures in case posters were not aware of what one looked like) can you seriously accuse me of complaining that they were not raising the level of debate? Should I reply in a verbiose manner just to please you? Out of interest, just how many PAD "folks" have been sentenced/imprisoned in the past 4 months, really, I'd like to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Well light the torches and rampage, the mouth is silenced. Hard to believe, but then again he knew no sense of moderation and hung himself on his own petard. So one other, Nisit wit, goes with him, and so far other less vitreous voices are still free. Will this be the good excuse for reds to go over the edge? If so then most Thais will notice and vote accordingly. This thread will no doubt fill up to the brim with New Members.... and all with similar lines of... ac cc chemmm, thought. Where did you go to school? Probably also a question of: When did you go to school? Or how many decades ago? Always read, always study, always learn. No point in stopping. How can one post generate so many responses? I thought Mr "ableguy" was making a sarcastic comment on animatic's howler: "hung himself on his own petard" - a badly remembered phrase which has nothing to do with ropes or being hung. But, as animatic says, "Always read, always study, always learn". So, just for you, animatic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petard#.22Hoist_with_his_own_petard.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 The standard of debate on here just keeps going up and up....................... When people post one-liners like this and your last one, you certainly can't be accused of raising the bar any .... Jatuporn is in jail. The fact that he was given so much slack for so long, and the fact that he wasn't impeached speaks volumes about just how far "free speech" is tolerated in Thailand. He crossed the line so many times that with the sentencing/imprisonment of many PAD folks over the last 4 months, that it may be Jatuporn's turn in the barrel. I expect he'll get a lot longer than most others to think about his various crimes. And the "wrong rally, wrong person" one liner - am I incorrect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phiphidon Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) Anyone have a transcript of what he actually said during the rally, i'm curious to see it +I believe it was something along the lines of "go - burn it down tell them I sent you - tell them to come for me" Now they have - tell him to keep a bed warm for Thaksin You believe wrong. Wrong Rally, wrong person, but don't let that get in the way of your beliefs. Uh, PPD, that was sarcasm... I don't think Mr Baggie would know irony (sorry sarcasm) if it bit him in the a Edited May 12, 2011 by phiphidon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmonman Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 = bias Is there a point to your comment? Perhaps you might try to explain yourself with a complete sentence as opposed to a single word? Not trying to be a dick, but surely the point of a forum is to express one's opinion. So, what is your objection to the original poster precisely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard W Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Used to be sued? Sounds as if it were a regular thing. Not, it's a mistranslation of a particle best understood literally as 'not never'. (The negation of the particle means 'never'.) Thais often translate it to English as 'used to', but 'once' (not literally) or 'have' is sometimes a more accurate translation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 A clever move by the reds/ PT. Yes, to comply with court orders is a new and clever new tactic of the Reds and PTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Screen capture of video news by Kom Chad Luek news Link to view video: http://www.komchadluek.net/detail/20110512/97369/%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%B7%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B0%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%88%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%A8%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A5%E0%B9%84%E0%B8%A1%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%8D%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%95.html#source_video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 REDS MOVEMENT Jatuporn behind bars for first time By The Nation Top red-shirt leaders Jatuporn Prompan and Nisit Sinthuprai had their bail revoked yesterday after the court found them guilty of violating their bail conditions. This is the first time that Jatuporn, a Pheu Thai party-list candidate, has been put behind bars, as until now he has always enjoyed parliamentary immunity. His defence plans to file an appeal, but the verdict is to be immediately enforced pending the appellate review. The prosecutors told the court that the nine red-shirt leaders, Jatuporn and Nisit among them, were involved in making offensive remarks against the monarchy in their speech at a gathering of red-shirt protesters on April 10. The speech was designed to incite the crowd and violated bail conditions. Testifying in his defence on Monday, Jatuporn said he took full accountability for his remarks and pleaded with the court not to punish the other eight leaders who just appeared on the rally stage without commenting. Under the court ruling, the other seven red-shirt leaders will remain free on bail pending trial on terrorism charges in connection with last year's riots. After the ruling, Jatuporn and Nisit were taken to Bangkok Remand Prison. Jatuporn said at the courthouse that he was not worried and was ready to follow the court's orders. "I have not discussed anything with the red-shirt movement or the Pheu Thai Party. However, I am still a candidate for the party in the general election because the trial has not been finalised," he said. -- The Nation 2011-05-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I'm sorry but I'll not shout with the wolves. I dunno what this Jatu guy told, so it's difficult for all of us to have an opinion. Anyway, we are speaking about FREE SPEECH. Am I right? Do you consider that opposition should have a voice in your country (Australia, North America, Old Europe)? If yes, why should Thais be deprived of FREE SPEECH? D o you consider that they are not clever enough? Do you consider that the situations are sooooooooooo different? I don't think so. In our western countries also, the FREE SPEECH was not obvious in the past. We fought for that. I respect Thais fighting for that. Now, it does not mean that I agree with their speech. Even Aung San Suu Kyi is free now. In most countries, there are still lines you don't cross with FREE SPEECH. Incitement to riot, incitement to commit murder will land you in jail in many western countries. far less than that in UK simply shouting insults in certain situations will see you in the hands of the boys in blue Is that meant to be an argument for or against free speech? no argument is implied a statement of fact about situations in other countries when asked by another poster (not you) the threads not about free speech either, its about bail revocation so this and similar posts are all off topic try to keep up peepeedon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILT Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I don't want to appear immature or anything... but.... classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Posts have been deleted for being abusive and insulting. Posts have been deleted for a failure to quote leading to misunderstanding of who posted what. Drop the schoolyard bickering. I don't want to have to start handing out long suspensions so long before we even have to deal with the election. Learn to mind your manners and act like civil adults. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILT Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I'm sorry but I'll not shout with the wolves. I dunno what this Jatu guy told, so it's difficult for all of us to have an opinion. Anyway, we are speaking about FREE SPEECH. Am I right? Do you consider that opposition should have a voice in your country (Australia, North America, Old Europe)? If yes, why should Thais be deprived of FREE SPEECH? D o you consider that they are not clever enough? Do you consider that the situations are sooooooooooo different? I don't think so. In our western countries also, the FREE SPEECH was not obvious in the past. We fought for that. I respect Thais fighting for that. Now, it does not mean that I agree with their speech. Even Aung San Suu Kyi is free now. No such thing as free speech anymore anywhere. You might think there is but there aint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Could some journalist out there please please please interview the woman wearing that "wikileaks" shirt one-on-one for opinions on Assange and his uneasy relationship with the media...? Or is she wearing it because she was told to? /edit to add - stupid tossers. You guys seem upset. Bless. So, rude AND smugly condescending. You are quite multi-talented. I was just saying that your post seemed decidedly stupid-tosser-esque. Thanks for your concern. Thanks for tampering with the posts. I was going to reply to your original comment but seems like you've deleted it from the above. Never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdimension Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Screen capture of video news by Kom Chad Luek news Link to view video: http://www.komchadluek.net/detail/20110512/97369/%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%B7%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B0%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%88%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%A8%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A5%E0%B9%84%E0%B8%A1%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%8D%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%95.html#source_video Thanks for the entertainment! He has the same smile as he had when he was taken into custody last year. If he enjoys being taken into custody so much, he should not be trying so hard to get bail. Or maybe it's just the attention that he gets during the process of being taken into custody that he loves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomeloseed Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 .......and I thought James Brown died, but now it appears he came to Thailand and got a $900 sex change. Jatuporn says emphatically, "I have not discussed anything with the red-shirt movement or the Pheu Thai Party......" For those who are new to interpreting what people like Jatuporn and Thaksin say, here's how to read it: Take what they declare, reverse the meaning, and that's closer to the truth of the matter." If it was an equation, it might look something like this: Statement Inversed = Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Jatuporn is in jail. The fact that he was given so much slack for so long, and the fact that he wasn't impeached speaks volumes about just how far "free speech" is tolerated in Thailand. Freedom of speech isn't tolerated in Thailand that far.What surprises me is that some foreigners apparently relish the prospect of laws, themselves in need of updating, being abused and exploited for political purposes.The argument goes I suppose the law is the law, and must be respected.That's true but when a law is wicked and absurd, such as the example of South African apartheid, it is unseemly for foreigners to exult in its implementation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geovalin Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 "Chatuporn, who was mentioned by several globally renowned professors as being Thailand‘s most potent and skilled political speaker, was taken into custody and sent to jail yesterday, for alledged lese majeste offenses. Depending on the Thai courts, with a reputation of serving the Thai establishment, Chatuporn could be shut of the Thai election campaign. The Thai DSI, known also as the Thai FBI, brought the charges on Chatuporn to the court, after the Thai military chief, Prayuth, called on the Thai FBI to crackdown on Chatuporn’s alledged lese majeste." More here: http://<URL Automatically Removed>/2011/05/13/political-news-globally-renowned-for-rousing-thai-politician-taken-out-of-election-campaign-for-lese-majeste-allegations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 "Chatuporn, who was mentioned by several globally renowned professors as being Thailand's most potent and skilled political speaker, was taken into custody and sent to jail yesterday, for alledged lese majeste offenses. Depending on the Thai courts, with a reputation of serving the Thai establishment, Chatuporn could be shut of the Thai election campaign. The Thai DSI, known also as the Thai FBI, brought the charges on Chatuporn to the court, after the Thai military chief, Prayuth, called on the Thai FBI to crackdown on Chatuporn's alledged lese majeste." More here: http://thaiintellige...te-allegations/ from that article; Chatuporn is a key figure of the Pheu Thai Party and a leader of the Red Shirts-which is mainly Thailand’s strongest combination in trying to bring democracy, liberty, justice and human rights to Thailand. not at all biased towards reds then...............? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 Red-shirt leader Jatuporn says he couldn't sleep on his 1st night in jail; Correction Dept chief says no special privileges for him /TAN_Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Red-shirt leader Jatuporn says he couldn't sleep on his 1st night in jail; Correction Dept chief says no special privileges for him /TAN_Network aaaah diddums........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 warning: do not post any comment/speculation involving members of the royal family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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