In Case Situation Gets Hectic In Thailand

[THAIPHUKET]

I like to be prepared, mentally. Assume things get unpleasant here, for me with a European passport to go for some months elsewhere is not a problem.

But where can I take my Thai GF without too much red tape?

[afarang]

Assume things get unpleasant here.!! I have lived here since 1989.How many coups have I lived through? Maybe 3 , 2 of which I was in Bangkok.Not a problem. I live very near the border with Cambodia, in Isarn, now. Sure , we had a little problem with shells banging around. A few months back. No real worries. This is one of the safest places to live in the world, barring the "Deep South"Your question is a non-starter.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I'm not saying I think it will happen, but I'm assuming the OP was thinking of something on a bigger scale than a coup...

Maybe more like in the vicinity of a civil war... fighting around the country... gunfire... etc etc...

Again, I'm not saying I think it will happen. But -- leaving aside natural disasters -- that would kind of be a worst case scenario...

I don't consider thinking about, and making contingency plans for, potential worst case scenarios to be a "non-starter."

I've thought the same things myself... where would I want to take my wife if it became physically unsafe for us to stay in our own home/area.

[Soutpeel]

If it became unsafe in Thailand to the point of a civil war etc, unless you got your GF out very early in the proceedings, she may not be going anywhere as a lot of countries may not Thai nationals enter.....ie possibilities of becoming a refugee etc.

[Soutpeel]

we had a little problem with shells banging around. A few months back. No real worries. This is one of the safest places to live in the world, barring the "Deep South"Your question is a non-starter.

You bl**dy hero.....not such a little problem if one of those "little shells" comes down on your house.... .....no worries my a*se...

[THAIPHUKET]

If one has lived in Beirut during war times such thoughts just come naturally.

But forget the possible cause. Where in SEA can a Thai woman stay for some months?

Perhaps through setting up a business at short notice coupled with a good visa?

[Soutpeel]

If one has lived in Beirut during war times such thoughts just come naturally.

But forget the possible cause. Where in SEA can a Thai woman stay for some months?

Perhaps through setting up a business at short notice coupled with a good visa?

Without a visa....basically nowhere. why dont you put your mind at rest and marry your GF and then the problem is solved....

[afarang]

we had a little problem with shells banging around. A few months back. No real worries. This is one of the safest places to live in the world, barring the "Deep South"Your question is a non-starter.

You bl**dy hero.....not such a little problem if one of those "little shells" comes down on your house.... .....no worries my a*se...

I repeat, WE had no problem. The Army evacuated all the villages in the "danger area". Were you not evacuated too? The real problem was finding where Thai friends and family had been evacuated too, and then finding them. One evacuated house .in our area did get some slight damage, but only one .What surprised us ,is nobody could work out what they were firing at. In the main, there shells seemed to lack the distance to reach the villages. Most seemed to fall in NO-Mans land,, a few kilometres short of the villages

[THAIPHUKET]

Where in SEA can a Thai woman stay for some months?

Perhaps through setting up a business at short notice coupled with a good visa?

Without a visa....basically nowhere. why dont you put your mind at rest and marry your GF and then the problem is solved....

If you care to read again= I said WITH visa.

[afarang]

We must be very careful ,as to what is said here. There are certain subjects that cannot be commented on , nor discussed. We had a lot of debate about civil war last year, but the upshot was ,that if we got a conclusive result of the elections, then the possibility was greatly diminished. And that result eventuated. It seems that the political process ,at this point in time , given the present Govts. majority, renders the possibility of "problems" fairly insignificant, at this point in time. However ,may I repeat ,I have lived here for over 20 years, been through a bit ,and in no way have I "suffered". Nor do I think I will . I have lived through Coups, Cambodian "invasions". Yes my village was shelled,but the Cambodians were not shall we say very good at directing their shells I still maintain ,that this is one of the safest countries for Farang to live in. Except for the deep South. Most farang are very well respected and liked in Isarn. There are a few ,that spend a trifle too much(like maybe a few million Baht too much) ,on their houses and engender some hostility, otherwise known as jealousy, which may cause problems for them in the future. Keep your nose clean ,and you will have no problem in Isarn. There could be as problem ,when someone pops their clogs.I seriously doubt that will affect us

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

There is a list I recall,,,and I believe a copy is posted here on ThaiVisa somewhere, maybe in one of the travel forums, on the various countries that Thai citizens can travel to without needing any visa, and then there's more places that routinely allow visa on entry with minimal formalities.......

That's in normal times.... I don't know whether those conditions would change in the event of a dire situation occurring inside Thailand...

Perhaps it's a good idea to retrieve that list and look at what the most likely local options would be...

[IMA_FARANG]

Assuming she has a Thai passport... Malaysia in a pinch.

I believe Thais need no visa to enter there, especially if with her European husband.

Also I know for a fact that a Thai woman escorted by a western male will get a simple entry stamp in her visa with minimal questions when entering Singapore. I took my wife and family there twice.

Of course, we only stayed a few days.

[Soutpeel]

<BR><IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif"> <BR>Assuming she has a Thai passport... Malaysia in a pinch.<BR>I believe Thais need no visa to enter there, especially if with her European husband.<BR>Also I know for a fact that a Thai woman escorted by a western male will get a simple entry stamp in her visa with minimal questions when entering Singapore. I took my wife and family there twice.<BR>Of course, we only stayed a few days.<BR><IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif"><BR>'>http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif"><BR>

<BR><BR>The OP is not talking about visting Malaysia/Singapore on holiday he is talking about a "long term" bolt hole if everything went pear shaped in Thailand, if things did go pear shaped here, first thing that would happen would be countries would "close" borders to Thai nationals in anticiapation of an influx of "refugees", a good example of this is what Thailand currently does with Burmese nationals....<IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt= src="http://static.thaivisa.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif"> <BR><BR>Therefore you would expect surrounding countries not to issue visa's to Thai nationals in a time of crisis , as once in country would be very easy to claim refugee status.

[THAIPHUKET]

I found a list which really is surprising in it's extend. Of course, to be taken with a grain of salt, subject to more study.

At least, many more options than I thought. Good enough to buy an around the world ticket and stay away until dust has settled=

The countries or regions that grant visa-free or visa-on-arrival to personal Thailand passport holders are:

• 90 days for all passport type.
  • Argentina
  • Brazil
  • Chile
  • Haiti
  • Panama (Visa on arrival at 5 USD maximum stay of 90 days)
  • Peru
  • Bermuda (Maximum stay of 6 months)
  • South Korea
  • Andorra
  • Switzerland (For a traveller with valid Schengen visa only)
  • Ethiopia (on arrival for a maximum stay of 3 months)
  • Kenya (Visa on arrival maximum stay of 3 months)
  • Madagascar (Visa on arrival at 28,000 MGA)
  • Fiji (Maximum stay 120 days)
  • Solomon Islands ("Visitors Permit" required, which can be obtained on arrival for a maximum stay of 3 months)

  [*]60 days for all passport type.[*]

  • Nepal (Visa on arrival at 30 USD)
  • Samoa (Visa on arrival

  [*]30 days for all passport type.

  • Armenia (on arrival)
  • Cambodia (Visa on arrival - tourist for $20, business for $25)
  • East Timor (Visa on arrival - $30)
  • Hong Kong
  • Indonesia
  • Laos
  • Macau
  • Malaysia
  • Maldives
  • Oman (Visa on arrival - 20 Omani rial)
  • Philippines
  • Russia
    • Transnistria
    • Abkhazia
    • South Ossetia

    [*]Saint Vincent and the Grenadines[*]Burkina Faso (on arrival)[*]Singapore[*]South Africa[*]Sri Lanka[*]Vietnam[*]Vanuatu (Extension of stay up to 4 months in any 1 year period possible)[*]Tuvalu (on arrival for a stay of max. one month)[*]Tonga (on arrival)[*]Rwanda (on arrival provided passenger has applied for a visa through the website www.migration.gov.rw)[*]Uganda[*]Zambia[*]Burundi[*]Cape Verde (on arrival)[*]Comoros[*]Djibouti[*]Mozambique[*]Seychelles free for 1 month[*]Tanzania[*]Togo on arrival for max. 7[*]Azerbaijan[*]Georgia[*]Tajikistan (on arrival)[*]Dominica for stay of max. 21 days.[*]Micronesia[*]Niue[*]Palau Islands on arrival for a stay of max. 30 days (extension possible).[*]Marshall Islands (on arrival)[*]Mongolia

  [*]15 days for all passport type.

  • Bangladesh (Visa on arrival - $50, available at Zia Airport; diplomatic and official passport for 30-day visa-free)

  [*]14 days for all passport type.

  • Brunei
  • Bahrain (Visa on arrival cost 5 Bahraini dinar)

  [*]Others

  • Iran (1 week Visa on arrival)
  • Jordan (Visa on arrival cost 10 Jordanian dinar)
  • Maldives (Visa on arrival - 30 days)
  • Papua New Guinea (Visa on arrival cost 100 PGK)
  • Syria (Visa on arrival - payment)
  • Togo (Visa on arrival - 7 days)

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_countries_can_Thai_citizens_go_to_without_a_Visa#ixzz1XKU1Hhba

[Cuban]

First step marry your GF - wives are more likely to be welcomed than "just" a GF. Establish a travel history with her travelling overseas with you so passport date stamps match. Ideally establish a visa to visit your home country at least once.

Packed your GOOD bag yet ?

[djvolak]

I found a list which really is surprising in it's extend. Of course, to be taken with a grain of salt, subject to more study.

At least, many more options than I thought. Good enough to buy an around the world ticket and stay away until dust has settled=

The countries or regions that grant visa-free or visa-on-arrival to personal Thailand passport holders are:

• 90 days for all passport type.
  • Argentina
  • Brazil
  • Chile
  • Haiti
  • Panama (Visa on arrival at 5 USD maximum stay of 90 days)
  • Peru
  • Bermuda (Maximum stay of 6 months)
  • South Korea
  • Andorra
  • Switzerland (For a traveller with valid Schengen visa only)
  • Ethiopia (on arrival for a maximum stay of 3 months)
  • Kenya (Visa on arrival maximum stay of 3 months)
  • Madagascar (Visa on arrival at 28,000 MGA)
  • Fiji (Maximum stay 120 days)
  • Solomon Islands ("Visitors Permit" required, which can be obtained on arrival for a maximum stay of 3 months)

  [*]60 days for all passport type.[*]

  • Nepal (Visa on arrival at 30 USD)
  • Samoa (Visa on arrival

  [*]30 days for all passport type.

  • Armenia (on arrival)
  • Cambodia (Visa on arrival - tourist for $20, business for $25)
  • East Timor (Visa on arrival - $30)
  • Hong Kong
  • Indonesia
  • Laos
  • Macau
  • Malaysia
  • Maldives
  • Oman (Visa on arrival - 20 Omani rial)
  • Philippines
  • Russia
    • Transnistria
    • Abkhazia
    • South Ossetia

    [*]Saint Vincent and the Grenadines[*]Burkina Faso (on arrival)[*]Singapore[*]South Africa[*]Sri Lanka[*]Vietnam[*]Vanuatu (Extension of stay up to 4 months in any 1 year period possible)[*]Tuvalu (on arrival for a stay of max. one month)[*]Tonga (on arrival)[*]Rwanda (on arrival provided passenger has applied for a visa through the website www.migration.gov.rw)[*]Uganda[*]Zambia[*]Burundi[*]Cape Verde (on arrival)[*]Comoros[*]Djibouti[*]Mozambique[*]Seychelles free for 1 month[*]Tanzania[*]Togo on arrival for max. 7[*]Azerbaijan[*]Georgia[*]Tajikistan (on arrival)[*]Dominica for stay of max. 21 days.[*]Micronesia[*]Niue[*]Palau Islands on arrival for a stay of max. 30 days (extension possible).[*]Marshall Islands (on arrival)[*]Mongolia

  [*]15 days for all passport type.

  • Bangladesh (Visa on arrival - $50, available at Zia Airport; diplomatic and official passport for 30-day visa-free)

  [*]14 days for all passport type.

  • Brunei
  • Bahrain (Visa on arrival cost 5 Bahraini dinar)

  [*]Others

  • Iran (1 week Visa on arrival)
  • Jordan (Visa on arrival cost 10 Jordanian dinar)
  • Maldives (Visa on arrival - 30 days)
  • Papua New Guinea (Visa on arrival cost 100 PGK)
  • Syria (Visa on arrival - payment)
  • Togo (Visa on arrival - 7 days)

Read more: http://wiki.answers....a#ixzz1XKU1Hhba

Thanks, good info there!

[markprotti]

that looks like a fair list ..