Thai Academic Pramote Arrested Over Airport Blockades

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Pramote arrested over airport blockades

By The Nation

The Crime Suppression Division yesterday apprehended academic Pramote Nakornthup on suspicion of his involvement in the seizure of two Bangkok airports spearheaded by the People's Alliance for Democracy in 2008.

Following the issuing of arrest warrants last year, police tracked down Pramote to his residence in Nonthaburi.

Assistant national police chief Lt General Somyos Phumphanmuang said Pramote was the latest suspect to be arrested in connection with the airports seizure.

Other suspects, including PAD leaders, turned themselves in and were undergoing various stages of judicial and prosecution proceedings, Somyos said.

Among more than 100 known suspects, only activist Veera Somkwamkid is still at large because he is serving a jail term in Phnom Penh for border violations, he said.

After completing his booking process, Pramote denied all charges and his case will be forwarded for prosecution review, he said. Charges against him include causing disturbance and violating the emergency rules; but he was not among the core PAD leaders facing a terrorism indictment.

-- The Nation 2011-09-08

[whybother]

Following the issuing of arrest warrants last year, police tracked down Pramote to his residence in Nonthaburi.

Excellent police work.

only activist Veera Somkwamkid is still at large because he is serving a jail term in Phnom Penh for border violations, he said.

Will they find it as difficult to track down Veera?

[whybother]

Other suspects, including PAD leaders, turned themselves in and were undergoing various stages of judicial and prosecution proceedings, Somyos said.

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Charges against him include causing disturbance and violating the emergency rules; but he was not among the core PAD leaders facing a terrorism indictment.

Bookmark this for the usual ... "when are the yellow shirts going to be charged?" and "why aren't the yellow shirts charged with terrorism?"

[mca]

only activist Veera Somkwamkid is still at large because he is serving a jail term in Phnom Penh for border violations, he said.

Hardly at large unless they consider moving from his space on the cell floor to the piss bucket in the corner "at large"

[rametindallas]

I wish every yellow-shirt who participated in any way in the airport closures would spend at least two weeks in jail (on a rotating basis) and those that broke into government house a minimum of six months in jail. Then nobody can claim 'double standards' when guilty people are punished for the violent takeover of the main shopping district last year. If the police would enforce the laws consistently and equally, then visitors and citizens would feel better about being here. The coup plotters should serve twenty year sentences for their illegal coup (two wrongs don't make a right), and as they were doing it 'for the good of the country' then their prison sentence would be their 'sacrifice' for the country. As for Dr. T... don't get me started. The coup plotters retroactively pardoned themselves and the PT party sees equal justice in retroactively pardoning Dr. Thaksin. This 'he did it so I can do it' has got to stop if this country is to progress.

[Deez]

Following the issuing of arrest warrants last year, police tracked down Pramote to his residence in Nonthaburi.

Excellent police work.

only activist Veera Somkwamkid is still at large because he is serving a jail term in Phnom Penh for border violations, he said.

Will they find it as difficult to track down Veera?

LOL...I wonder how many man hours that took. Surprised they didnt need a new fleet of helicopters to complete the task

[mca]

So basically if you commit a serious crime in Thailand don't attempt to find a safe house in an anonymous back street or the like. Simply go home and put the kettle on. You've got plenty of time.

[beano2274]

He is well known to the Police but still it took them a year to track him down, or to issue him with the warrant....

[Richard4849]

Pay-back time.

[rogerdee123]

Pay-back time.

Exactly right .... this is part of the "no revenge" policy of the Yingluck Govt.

The police were simply waiting to see who won the election.

[hammered]

Other suspects, including PAD leaders, turned themselves in and were undergoing various stages of judicial and prosecution proceedings, Somyos said.

...

Charges against him include causing disturbance and violating the emergency rules; but he was not among the core PAD leaders facing a terrorism indictment.

Bookmark this for the usual ... "when are the yellow shirts going to be charged?" and "why aren't the yellow shirts charged with terrorism?"

The yellow shirts were sacrificed under the last government. A whole bunch who stormed a media station were jailed and there are plenty of charges. Many analysts saw it as the establishments way of making things appear even handed between red and yellow without sacrificing anything like the Democrat party or its members. The PAD also saw it this way. That is one big problem the anti-Thaksinistas now face after the electoral defeat of Thaksin strategy failed. They have split their own movement

[whybother]

The yellow shirts were sacrificed under the last government. A whole bunch who stormed a media station were jailed and there are plenty of charges. Many analysts saw it as the establishments way of making things appear even handed between red and yellow without sacrificing anything like the Democrat party or its members. The PAD also saw it this way. That is one big problem the anti-Thaksinistas now face after the electoral defeat of Thaksin strategy failed. They have split their own movement

"Sacrificed"? Don't you mean "charged with breaking laws"?

Why should the Democrats sacrifice their own party members (except for Kasit of course, who btw has been charged with his involvement in PAD shenanigans) for something that the PAD did? That would demonstrate that PAD=Democrats, which has been shown to be not the case.

I don't except to see anything of the sort from PTP even with the the large number of red shirts in their government.

[hammered]

The yellow shirts were sacrificed under the last government. A whole bunch who stormed a media station were jailed and there are plenty of charges. Many analysts saw it as the establishments way of making things appear even handed between red and yellow without sacrificing anything like the Democrat party or its members. The PAD also saw it this way. That is one big problem the anti-Thaksinistas now face after the electoral defeat of Thaksin strategy failed. They have split their own movement

"Sacrificed"? Don't you mean "charged with breaking laws"?

Why should the Democrats sacrifice their own party members (except for Kasit of course, who btw has been charged with his involvement in PAD shenanigans) for something that the PAD did? That would demonstrate that PAD=Democrats, which has been shown to be not the case.

I don't except to see anything of the sort from PTP even with the the large number of red shirts in their government.

Talking about power politics here. The whole game was you have Thaksin/reds/PTP on one side and the yellows/PAD on the other and when both sides were smashed and jailed for being extreme lunatics what would be left would be the nice establishment and their party and the big families in the middle. Back to normal. It hasnt worked out that way as the managed democracy system has completely collapsed allowing the red/Thaksin/PTP side to increase its power while the yellows/PAD declined to virtually nothing and refused to play ball with those who sacrificed them. By the way , absolutely none of this is even slightly controversial in analysis even if you talk to non-PTP MPs

After the red leaders waive their immunity, whihc is by the way praiseworthy, I wonder if we will see the likes of Suthep and Abhisit do the same if they are charged with similar offences?

[Buchholz]

Other suspects, including PAD leaders, turned themselves in and were undergoing various stages of judicial and prosecution proceedings, Somyos said.

Yet another difference between reds and yellows.

There's still a gaggle load of Red Shirts that remain indicted fugitives.

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[whybother]

...

After the red leaders waive their immunity, whihc is by the way praiseworthy, I wonder if we will see the likes of Suthep and Abhisit do the same if they are charged with similar offences?

"if they are charged with similar offences"

That's a big IF.

[Emptyset]

Other suspects, including PAD leaders, turned themselves in and were undergoing various stages of judicial and prosecution proceedings, Somyos said.

Yet another difference between reds and yellows.

There's still a gaggle load of Red Shirts that remain indicted fugitives.

.

Don't see how it's much different. Some reds turned themselves in. Some didn't. Same with PAD.

[Emptyset]

The yellow shirts were sacrificed under the last government. A whole bunch who stormed a media station were jailed and there are plenty of charges. Many analysts saw it as the establishments way of making things appear even handed between red and yellow without sacrificing anything like the Democrat party or its members. The PAD also saw it this way. That is one big problem the anti-Thaksinistas now face after the electoral defeat of Thaksin strategy failed. They have split their own movement

I believe the ones who were 'jailed' were actually immediately released on bail and I haven't heard anything about it since then.

[whybother]

Other suspects, including PAD leaders, turned themselves in and were undergoing various stages of judicial and prosecution proceedings, Somyos said.

Yet another difference between reds and yellows.

There's still a gaggle load of Red Shirts that remain indicted fugitives.

Don't see how it's much different. Some reds turned themselves in. Some didn't. Same with PAD.

I didn't realise there were some PAD on the run.

[gregb]

I wish every yellow-shirt who participated in any way in the airport closures would spend at least two weeks in jail (on a rotating basis) and those that broke into government house a minimum of six months in jail. Then nobody can claim 'double standards' when guilty people are punished for the violent takeover of the main shopping district last year. If the police would enforce the laws consistently and equally, then visitors and citizens would feel better about being here. The coup plotters should serve twenty year sentences for their illegal coup (two wrongs don't make a right), and as they were doing it 'for the good of the country' then their prison sentence would be their 'sacrifice' for the country.

And as long as you are putting people in prison, make sure that you save an especially hideous punishment for the judges in 2001 who launched this whole mess by refusing to punish the square faced fugitive for breaking the law.

This all traces back to that one event by those people trusted with enforcing the law. They took bribes instead, and gave us everything we have today. Once Thaksin felt he was above the law, everything else was essentially preordained.

It is stupid to start talking about jail time for everyone else without placing the original instigators behind bars. They are truly the worst of the bunch.

[Emptyset]

And as long as you are putting people in prison, make sure that you save an especially hideous punishment for the judges in 2001 who launched this whole mess by refusing to punish the square faced fugitive for breaking the law.

This all traces back to that one event by those people trusted with enforcing the law. They took bribes instead, and gave us everything we have today. Once Thaksin felt he was above the law, everything else was essentially preordained.

It is stupid to start talking about jail time for everyone else without placing the original instigators behind bars. They are truly the worst of the bunch.

Unlikely given who was involved. It wasn't simply a case of bribery, but pressure applied by people who it is very difficult to refuse.

[Buchholz]

Other suspects, including PAD leaders, turned themselves in and were undergoing various stages of judicial and prosecution proceedings, Somyos said.

Yet another difference between reds and yellows.

There's still a gaggle load of Red Shirts that remain indicted fugitives.

.

Don't see how it's much different. Some reds turned themselves in. Some didn't. Same with PAD.

All yellows have turned themselves in. Quite a few Red Shirts have not.

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[Emptyset]

Other suspects, including PAD leaders, turned themselves in and were undergoing various stages of judicial and prosecution proceedings, Somyos said.

Yet another difference between reds and yellows.

There's still a gaggle load of Red Shirts that remain indicted fugitives.

.

Don't see how it's much different. Some reds turned themselves in. Some didn't. Same with PAD.

All yellows have turned themselves in. Quite a few Red Shirts have not.

.

Well, this guy hadn't. In fact some of them still hadn't turned themselves in almost two years after the occupation took place. See: http://www.thailandoutlook.tv/tan/ViewData.aspx?DataID=1036169 - who're the ones who haven't turned themselves in since last year's protests? Arisman is the only one I know (unless you count Thaksin himself, of course), although it's possible some lesser names are still fugitive.

[Buchholz]

Yet another difference between reds and yellows.

There's still a gaggle load of Red Shirts that remain indicted fugitives.

.

Don't see how it's much different. Some reds turned themselves in. Some didn't. Same with PAD.

All yellows have turned themselves in. Quite a few Red Shirts have not.

.

Well, this guy hadn't. In fact some of them still hadn't turned themselves in almost two years after the occupation took place. See: http://www.thailandoutlook.tv/tan/ViewData.aspx?DataID=1036169

You should inform General Somyos he's wrong. Or at least see if there is a more recent article *something newer than the 11 month-old link* listing them as still fugitives.

OP:

Assistant national police chief Lt General Somyos Phumphanmuang said Pramote was the latest suspect to be arrested in connection with the airports seizure.

Other suspects, including PAD leaders, turned themselves in and were undergoing various stages of judicial and prosecution proceedings, Somyos said.

Among more than 100 known suspects, only activist Veera Somkwamkid is still at large because he is serving a jail term in Phnom Penh for border violations, he said.

.

Edited September 8, 2011 by Buchholz

[Bagwan]

And as long as you are putting people in prison, make sure that you save an especially hideous punishment for the judges in 2001 who launched this whole mess by refusing to punish the square faced fugitive for breaking the law.

This all traces back to that one event by those people trusted with enforcing the law. They took bribes instead, and gave us everything we have today. Once Thaksin felt he was above the law, everything else was essentially preordained.

It is stupid to start talking about jail time for everyone else without placing the original instigators behind bars. They are truly the worst of the bunch.

Unlikely given who was involved. It wasn't simply a case of bribery, but pressure applied by people who it is very difficult to refuse.

A clear case of LMF or having not the slightest idea of what justice is. If they were not prepared to do the job that their position prescribes then they should have resigned - and made their reasons why they did so public.

In the UK magistrates and judges dispense the Queens Justice and nobody, not even members of the Royal family are exempt. Judges and magistrates perform their duties on behalf of Her Majesty without fear of favour. If a recently elected Prime Minister breaks any law then he/she is arraigned - no matter how many people voted for him/her and dealt with accordingly. One of the few things that I give Blair (commonly referred to as B Liar) credit for is not interfering with police action over his son's public drunkenness at the age of 16 years. The reality was that if he had interfered with the application of the law the UK Press would have had him for toilet paper.

[NanLaew]

Other suspects, including PAD leaders, turned themselves in and were undergoing various stages of judicial and prosecution proceedings, Somyos said.

Yet another difference between reds and yellows.

There's still a gaggle load of Red Shirts that remain indicted fugitives.

Don't see how it's much different. Some reds turned themselves in. Some didn't. Same with PAD.

I didn't realise there were some PAD on the run.

Well maybe not exactly 'on the run' since Chamlong is getting on a bit so maybe a 'fast stroll' may be more appropriate.

[ES1]

Other suspects, including PAD leaders, turned themselves in and were undergoing various stages of judicial and prosecution proceedings, Somyos said.

Yet another difference between reds and yellows.

There's still a gaggle load of Red Shirts that remain indicted fugitives.

.

May of which can now be found in the current elected gov't. So shouldn't be hard to track them down. I'm sure the police will get right on that.