Satellite Debris Falls On Thai-Cambodian Border: Thai Defence Minister

[webfact]

Satellite debris falls on Thai-Cambodian border: Thai Defence Minister

BANGKOK, Dec 23 - Thai Defence Minister Gen Yutthasak Sasiprapa on Friday confirmed that satellite debris fell on the northeastern Thai province of Si Sa Ket bordering Cambodia.

Gen Yutthasak said both Thai and Cambodian authorities confirmed that there was no aircraft from either country which had crashed.

He said Thai army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha and Second Army Region commander Lt-Gen Thawatchai Samutsakorn reported that the debris was most likely pieces of a satellite.

He said the satellite may be one owned by a member country of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) which had been decommissioned. However, the satellite did not burn up upon re-entry to earth and fell into a field.

Meanwhile, Gen Prayuth, who was visiting the Second Army Region headquarters, said an investigation was under way to identify the suspicious debris.

He said, according to the pictures, it looked similar to the sheath of a satellite or a fuel tank.

The army chief added that similar debris fell into the same area last year so that he believed the location might have been within the orbit of flying object.

Gen Prayuth confirmed, however, that the debris was not part of an aircraft that had entered Thai airspace and was shot down by the Suranaree taskforce.

Thailand observes the code of conduct when any aircraft intrudes into Thai airspace, the authorities respond with a warning, not shooting.

In a related development, deputy director Pairin Sitthiphol of the Khao Phra Viharn National Park said the incident did not affect tourism at the Thai-Cambodian border as hundreds of tourists came to enjoy the natural views as normally. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2011-12-23

[FOODLOVER]

'The army chief added that similar debris fell into the same area last year so that he believed the location might have been within the orbit of flying object'.

[ParadiseLost]

Can't wait for the fighting over ownership to start...

[sparebox2]

Satellite parts do not use bolts (see in photos). They use welding.

Those parts looks like old soviet tanks.

[patjem]

Looks nothing like a satellite, which are norally made from very light construction, I used to build them. More like fuselage of an old plane. A low-earth orbit satellite is geo-stationary, but they don't tend to just fall vertically from their position if a defunct one falls back to earth.

Edited December 23, 2011 by patjem

[tukkytuktuk]

It's come off Santa's sleigh!

[Thai at Heart]

You have to give them credit.

Just make up a story so fantastic and keep a straight face, and no one dares to suggest that maybe the pooyai is telling porkies.

I mean they spent millions on a divining rod, so obviously this must be from a satellite because he says so. And no one noticed this missing satellite???????????

[Obiwan]

Looks to be some kind of industrial compression tank that blew up and flew some distance away.

[cloudhopper]

Wow I'm at a loss - are these top military officers really that ignorant or is this a clumsy PR attempt by some government agency facilitated by what could only be described as inept journalism and a deliberately undereducated populace?

[bendejo]

Well, whatever it is you can be sure it is not what this guy claims it is, this sounds like one of those poor excuses, Thai version of "the dog ate my homework."

Too many holes in this story to be real.

On the other hand here's another fall from space story:

http://www.abc.net.a...namibia/3745280

Hey, maybe there is a Santa, and sometime in the last 50 years he traded in the sleigh for a clutsy Soviet tractor, now falling apart piece by piece.

Edited December 23, 2011 by bendejo

[Johpa]

Last time I saw a satellite that looked anything like that was in the Buster Crabbe film version of Flash Gordon

[RKASA]

Chinese-Russian joint Mars Venture

Maybe this one came home

[Nisa]

The army chief added that similar debris fell into the same area last year so that he believed the location might have been within the orbit of flying object.

The odds of 2 different unknown and non-monitored satellites falling near the same field a year apart? About zero. The fact it has happened twice would indicate it is almost certainly NOT a satellite. One might also consider how very intact this piece is in the picture considering it would have had to fall at least 100-miles. It also appears to not have any extreme heat marks and what looks like a fresh coat of primer paint.

[Puccini]

...And no one noticed this missing satellite???????????

The Russians lost one during a launch on Friday.

Another Soyuz rocket launch fails

By Jonathan Amos

Science correspondent, BBC News

Russia's recent poor launch record has continued with yet another Soyuz rocket failure.

This time, a Soyuz-2 vehicle failed to put a communications satellite into orbit after lifting away from the country's Plesetsk spaceport.

Debris is said to have re-entered the Earth's atmosphere near the western Siberian town of Tobolsk.

...

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk...onment-16317099

Could some piece of it have fallen in Thailand?

Edited December 23, 2011 by Puccini

[sjjmmi]

Well, whatever it is you can be sure it is not what this guy claims it is, this sounds like one of those poor excuses, Thai version of "the dog ate my homework."

Too many holes in this story to be real.

On the other hand here's another fall from space story:

http://www.abc.net.a...namibia/3745280

Hey, maybe there is a Santa, and sometime in the last 50 years he traded in the sleigh for a clutsy Soviet tractor, now falling apart piece by piece.

So UFO are coming

[Puccini]

Fox News has a photo of the Soyus rocket, but not of the satellite it was carrying. Some more images are here: http://orbiter-forum...ead.php?t=25679

[webfact]

Prayuth denies aircraft shot down on border

The Nation

Army chief General Prayuth Chan-ocha yesterday dismissed rumours that Thai troops had shot down an aircraft in the border province of Si Sa Ket.

"No, there has been no shooting," Prayuth said, adding that officials were examining the unidentified objects found in Ban Phum Saron on Thursday.

"At this point, I cannot confirm what they are exactly. But they look like parts of a satellite or a fuel cylinder," the Army chief said. He added that similar objects had been found in the same area in 2003.

The Army chief said he wondered why the parts, if they really came from a satellite, had not burned up while tumbling down to Earth. He reiterated that no espionage aircraft had been found hovering over Thailand.

"There's no shooting. There's no war," he said, adding that Cambodia and Thailand had friendly ties and that military officers from both countries met for talks often.

"There have been visits by both sides," Prayuth explained.

However, the two countries have a long-standing conflict about the ownership of land surrounding the Preah Vihear Temple, and the bilateral ties were badly fractured during the previous administration. The International Court of Justice is looking into the case after Cambodia filed a petition.

Defence Minister General Yuthasak Sasiprapha said yesterday that he had discussed the issue of the mysterious objects with Prayuth and Second Army Region chief Lt-General Tawatchai Samutsakhon.

"They are probably parts of a satellite," he said.

According to Yuthasak, no aircraft from Cambodia or Thailand was hovering near the spot where a loud bang was heard and the objects found later.

-- The Nation 2011-12-24

[FOODLOVER]

Count your helicopters boys!

[sjjmmi]

end of the world 2012 UFOs are coming

Edited December 23, 2011 by sjjmmi

[redroo]

looks like a turbine engine cover.

with a .50 bullet hole /metal rip/peal.

Edited December 23, 2011 by redroo

[redroo]

looks like a gas turbine engine part.

Could be from a rocket engines pumping system

or from a helicopters engine.

[IMA_FARANG]

There was another topic posted on TV about this yesterday.

The photo shown in this article is NOT the same photo that was shown in yesterday's topic.

This morning on BBC World Service news there is an article about a Russian Soyuez launch, intended to carry an automatic robotic docking module to the International Space Station. It was supposed to carry supplies to that space station.

The Soyuez rocket blew up about 7 minutes after launch from Kazakstan.

What the photo in this article looks like is consistant with debries from (in my humble opinion) a fragment from that Soyuez rocket or more likely from that robotic docking module.

The photo displayed yesterday in that other topic was, for one thing, yellow colored...and this object is gray.

[IMA_FARANG]

Chinese-Russian joint Mars Venture

Maybe this one came home

Yes, that is the failed Russian-Chinese Mars probe called Phobos-Grunt (hey, don't laugh...I didn't name it).

As far as I know....and I have no access to any other source of information....that is still in earth orbit and is expected to re-enter sometime in the next two weeks....exactly when won't be known until a couple of days at best before it does re-enter.

The U.S. defense department, maintains a worldwide radar system to track space objects such as that.

But you or I haven't a chance of finding that info unless they choose to release it as a warning alert that an object is about to re-enter.

Otherwise, all such information is classified....and you or I don't "need to know".

[AleG]

The army chief added that similar debris fell into the same area last year so that he believed the location might have been within the orbit of flying object.

The odds of 2 different unknown and non-monitored satellites falling near the same field a year apart? About zero. The fact it has happened twice would indicate it is almost certainly NOT a satellite. One might also consider how very intact this piece is in the picture considering it would have had to fall at least 100-miles. It also appears to not have any extreme heat marks and what looks like a fresh coat of primer paint.

Not implausible at all, rockets follow the same trajectories when they launch a satellite to a specific orbit, debris from one of the stages would fall within the same path on Earth.

The wreckage is probably part of a rocket stage, not a satellite. The lower stages don't reach orbital speed and break up as they fall down to Earth, normally the launch trajectory is planned so that most of the debris falls in the ocean or on very sparsely populated areas (in Siberia people scavenge russian rocket debris from the Baikonur launches). If something goes awry or the desired orbital latitude demands it, the rocket path and the debris trail may pass over more populated areas.

[Payboy]

That is definitely a submarine port-hole. A Thai navy experiment gone horribly wrong.

[sparebox2]

There was another topic posted on TV about this yesterday.

The photo shown in this article is NOT the same photo that was shown in yesterday's topic.

This morning on BBC World Service news there is an article about a Russian Soyuez launch, intended to carry an automatic robotic docking module to the International Space Station. It was supposed to carry supplies to that space station.

The Soyuez rocket blew up about 7 minutes after launch from Kazakstan.

What the photo in this article looks like is consistant with debries from (in my humble opinion) a fragment from that Soyuez rocket or more likely from that robotic docking module.

The photo displayed yesterday in that other topic was, for one thing, yellow colored...and this object is gray.

None of their launch pad is even near Thailand/Cambodia.

[janverbeem]

That is definitely a submarine port-hole. A Thai navy experiment gone horribly wrong.

And what would a submarine do in Sisaket?Oh you mean that the horribly wrong part means that they forgot there is no sea?

I think it looks like a part of a helicopter

[ubonrthai]

The explosion was heard by other TV members along with artillery.

[kennalder]

'The army chief added that similar debris fell into the same area last year so that he believed the location might have been within the orbit of flying object'.

'The army chief added that similar debris fell into the same area last year so that he believed the location might have been within the orbit of flying object'.

Well at least it wasn't the Science Minister! (Yet)

[Orgathai]

If it is a farang satellite, it must be a suicide