Phuket 'Spike Girl' Returns German Victim's Passport

[trevorg]

I was about to wade in, then decided that it's furry muff (fair enough)! we are all individuals, with experiences, opinions and feelings! I haven't had my drinks spiked, but I have had my drinking experience spiked - and it's hard to turn down a shot or shooter (whether in Thailand or not!).

[Brewsta]

I was about to wade in, then decided that it's furry muff (fair enough)! we are all individuals, with experiences, opinions and feelings! I haven't had my drinks spiked, but I have had my drinking experience spiked - and it's hard to turn down a shot or shooter (whether in Thailand or not!).

Hey trevorg,

".....wade....in furry muff...." brings back sweet memories from byegone years.

Cheers & Regards,

Brewsta

[trevorg]

I was about to wade in, then decided that it's furry muff (fair enough)! we are all individuals, with experiences, opinions and feelings! I haven't had my drinks spiked, but I have had my drinking experience spiked - and it's hard to turn down a shot or shooter (whether in Thailand or not!).

Hey trevorg,

".....wade....in furry muff...." brings back sweet memories from byegone years.

Cheers & Regards,

Brewsta

You're welcome! Much love to you too!

[473geo]

Still trying to work out if over the years I have been incredibly lucky, a great judge of people.......or never really took anything worth stealing on holiday

Edited January 20, 2012 by 473geo

[necronx99]

I think she is a clever girl and returned the passport to let this guy out of LOS ASAP so that he'd not cause further police problems for her.

A good deduction, exactly what I was thinking. But this doesn’t mean that the guy’s passport has not been duplicated for fraudulent purposes.

This has nothing to do with Thai people as a whole. What these guys’s fail to realise is that they are dealing with Thailand’s underclasses, the dregs of Thai society.

The reality is that these women are prostitutes, some maybe involved with a gang and the guys that use their services are only considered as tricks or Johns, only in this for easy cash. Many of these men believe that when they pay for the services of prostitutes that they are going to get a short time girlfriend or the girlfriend experience. Not so. It`s a wham, bam thank you mame, here’s your money, good-bye and good luck.

Any guy who risks taking one of these women back to their room, without being fully coherent of their senses, leaves valuables lying around and failing to watch these girls every move is a fool. I cannot see any reasons why the police would want to waste any of their precious time and resources trying to obtain property or valuables back for these morons.

Have no sympathy whatsoever and once bitten, twice shy. At least this idiot has learned from experience.

Has it occured to you for one moment that a crime has been committed against this guy????

Next time you are in a bar, ANY BAR, and a drink is served to you, just think, unless it was opened in front of you, the staff could have "spiked" it and 30 minutes later you are feeling really tired and need help from the staff to get home. At this point, everyone thinks you are just another drunk "moron" and you wake up with all of your possessions gone.

Phuket is full of "it won't happen to me" victims.

You are missing my point old sport.

I have been and may probably go with bargirls myself in the future. I’m not a prude or one to preach all that is light and goodness. To me it`s just part of a night out and they are part of the social and nightly entertainments. I do not expect anything else and accept that. I fully understand who and what they are, I am not putting them down one way or another.

All I am saying to the guys is, be cautious, try to understand what and who they are dealing with and do not leave themselves vulnerable.

I 100% agree with you that a customer`s drink could be drugged in any of the bars. It`s similar to saying that anything may happen to anyone, anywhere, if they happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. There are events that happen which are not under our control. All we can do is be as aware and as cautious as possible.

In the case of this German guy, none of us know what actually happened; doubt if any of us ever will, most of what posters are saying is pure speculation.

In the past I have visited Phuket and Pattaya. The most dangers lie for the guys travelling alone or perhaps are first timers to the adult entertainments scene. These are the guys at most risk and ripe for the prey of scammers and thieves. For the lone traveller may suddenly find himself at the tender mercies of these evil people, then as the German guy, wake up in oblivion and say; <deleted> happened.

For safety my advice is to travel with another guy, a friend, or even better as a group of guys, each looking out for each other, especially for the naive or the newbie’s.

These days I consider myself well experienced and not someone who could be taken for ride easily. But there are certain locations and venues in Thailand that even I would find myself out of my depth and a possible victim waiting to happen. In the end it`s all down to common sense.

Staying alone as a tourist in an apt rather than a hotel with a desk seems to carry an added element of risk.

Drink Spiking has been going on in LOS since day dot. I remember going to one of the bars in Patpong back in the late 80's with a few guys I had met in my hotel for an afternoon drink.

First round of drinks I noticed one of the glasses had a kind of smear inside it. I avoided getting the dirty glass out of habit but thought nothing of it until 30 min later when the guy who did get it was flat out n his back and had to be carried back to the hotel. Can't think of why they did it as there were 4 of us, mistake perhaps.

[housepainter]

Or to comment responsibly on this incident he was drugged and could have died from it.

Happy holidays in parasite then.

[NamKangMan]

Greetings Beetlejuice,

Whilst all of your travel & social precautions are spot on, I am continually bemused over my decades in LOS and elsewhere, that so many visitors (and yes, shock horror, even the 'experienced' expat resident here in Thailand) need to be hand-held as to basic common-sense.

Despite countless media horror stories and reports like the experience of the German tourist on this occasion, a variation of the theme is constantly repeated annually worldwide .

Thailand is no better nor worse than many global destinations visited every year - but surprise, indignation, disbelief, preaching, etc, inevitably follows from those who post or comment on an incident.

Perhaps Common Sense 101 should be obligatory on school curricula worldwide?

Maybe not, because as famously said: "....there is (at least) One born every minute...." and you can't force people to think Smart.

We are all victims of Fate, but why give it the upper hand by wearing a sign that reads "I am Dopey, please fleece me"?

Anyway, time for me to get off my Pulpit and (safely?) wander down the pub ;0))

Be safe & smart, One and All (if you so choose),

Brewsta

And greetings to you Brewsta. Wish I was going down the pub with you.

What you say; Perhaps Common Sense 101 should be obligatory on school curricula worldwide? Is so right. and of course you are right, Thailand is no better or worse than anywhere else when it comes to people. There are fools everywhere and those which will prey on them.

Or how about producing the idiots guide to life survival?

Anyway, please have a drink for me when you are out and try not to fall foul of any ladies of ill repute. But somehow I think you are a man of the world and know the score.

Cheers to ya, old sport.

Can either of you 100% guarantee that the next drink you consume has not been spiked???? No. So what has drink spiking got to do with common sense? Many of the sedatives used for spiking are tasteless and colourless.

Are you saying that drink spiking only occurs in beer bars? Tell me, what makes you think that it could never happen to you?

It's a serious crime, not for the value of the proceeds stolen, but for the amount and type of drugs administered to the victim. Who knows how many farang may had died from heart attacks etc due to this crime and it has just been writen off as death by natural causes.

As the word spreads around the island of how easy and lucrative this crime is, it will spread. You can expect to see more and more cases of it in the future.

Hello Namkangman,

Yes, I can guarantee that my drink will never be spiked because:

1) I only choose to drink in establishments where I know the Management and/or bar staff who open my bottle(s) of beer or (occasional) bottle of spirits in front of me at my table.

2) As a happily married man with a lovely and (relatively) sane Thai wife of 12 years and 2 lovely kids, I am no doubt fortunate in that I do not feel the need to party out or drink in saloons that are not familiar to me.

3) I gave up drink esoteric cocktails, etc, with flora and straws in, many years ago. I was no doubt fortunate that I had no worse fate than some killer hangovers through excessive entertainment during those years.

Finally, this use of incapacitory narcotics or beverages has been around since Man took his first drink. Thus IMO, your fear that such practices will spread like wildfire as the Word gets out is dated by countless events, and inevitable by its proven worldwide expansion year on year.

I do not speak for others nor deny the many ways that the unfortunate or foolish are succesfully targetted for their funds and more. I say this only as fact to rebut your incorrect assertion of my personal vulnerability.

Your thoughts appear well-intentioned and certainly the consequences can be dreadful for the victim(s) , but they most certainly do not apply to my life or personal situation.

Stay safe and smiling,

Brewsta

It must get pretty boring going to the same places all of the time "where you know the management" and feel safe. Talk about "comfort zone."

I suppose you don't have to worry about a bargirl robbing you when you have a Thai wife because you are already getting robbed, just in a nicer way.

Many are unfortunate here as they expect to have a nice relaxing holiday, not be drugged, robbed, scammed, ripped off, extorted, assaulted, lied to and cheated. Of course, none of this has ever happened to you because you are not "foolish" and to admit that you have been ripped off by a tuk tuk driver, for example, would be a big loss of "face" for you on TV.

Get out from behind your missus, and out of your comfort zone, and step back into "what Phuket has become 12 years later" and you will see that everyone is quite vulnerable here now. It's become a mine field and you have to watch your step. The place is vastly different to 12 years ago. You should see what has become of the place that you have decided to live in.

To criticize this German guy is harsh. You have no idea what is actually going on out there.

Ahhhh, another one with their head in the sand. Ignorance is bliss.

Edited January 20, 2012 by NamKangMan

[NamKangMan]

She doesn't want her "wicked way" with you. She wants your money, phone, watch and jewelry. It's not about you getting a girl. It's about the girl targeting a victim. Even if you are not drinking, your coke or lemonade can be spiked.

Please don`t take all this too seriously.

As I have mentioned previously, some events happen and not always under our control. It`s like saying that I won`t be knocked down by a truck tomorrow. Who knows? I might, if I`m in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Read my previous posts on this subject and you will see that I`m not disagreeing with you.

My message is; just use common sense and be careful out there, never drop your guard. That`s about all we can do.

I don't take it too seriously. TV is harmless banter. However, the "if something bad happens to you in Phuket it must be your fault or you are unintelligent" crowd get on my nerves a bit.

It's sooooo easy to be a victim here. This German guy, for all we know, he could be highly qualified and educated. If he was drugged, and as I mentioned in a previous post, we will never know because they do not test blood and urine for this crime, was it his fault, or was he a victim of crime? How many other tourist are victims of this crime.

I am aware of cases like this on the smaller islands where Thai guys spike the drinks of western women, not for robbery, but for sex.

We all try to use our common sense and the experienced expats here are well guarded, and with good reason, but, like you said, wrong place at the wrong time and all that experience and "street smarts" will not help you here. You just go down as another crime statisic.

[QED]

Hello Namkangman,

Yes, I can guarantee that my drink will never be spiked because:

1) I only choose to drink in establishments where I know the Management and/or bar staff who open my bottle(s) of beer or (occasional) bottle of spirits in front of me at my table.

2) As a happily married man with a lovely and (relatively) sane Thai wife of 12 years and 2 lovely kids, I am no doubt fortunate in that I do not feel the need to party out or drink in saloons that are not familiar to me.

3) I gave up drink esoteric cocktails, etc, with flora and straws in, many years ago. I was no doubt fortunate that I had no worse fate than some killer hangovers through excessive entertainment during those years.

Finally, this use of incapacitory narcotics or beverages has been around since Man took his first drink. Thus IMO, your fear that such practices will spread like wildfire as the Word gets out is dated by countless events, and inevitable by its proven worldwide expansion year on year.

I do not speak for others nor deny the many ways that the unfortunate or foolish are succesfully targetted for their funds and more. I say this only as fact to rebut your incorrect assertion of my personal vulnerability.

Your thoughts appear well-intentioned and certainly the consequences can be dreadful for the victim(s) , but they most certainly do not apply to my life or personal situation.

Stay safe and smiling,

Brewsta

Wow preacher man, I wish I was so enlightened. I also have a dislike for people making bullet points on forums, but, hey, if you can't beat em.....

1) I call BS on that - you have never left your home town? Been on holiday?

2) Wow, you must have married my gf's sister. I assume she has a Phd and is hi-so chinese?

3) Cock-tails???

[sfbandung]

or maybe just really drunk? he's still drinking a disgusting chang export in the picture..

Yeah that chang export is really horrible...I tried it once during the floods when singha was scarce....

Thiis is off topic and we'll wind up in trouble. But I can't agree, Singha is too sweet for me, I like Chang Export. Sorry ...

[stevenl]

Still trying to work out if over the years I have been incredibly lucky, a great judge of people.......or never really took anything worth stealing on holiday

Naw, you just have to be extremely unlucky to be a victim of something like this.

[candyman123]

So what happened to the Thai ID card that she is to show and give to the reception on arrival to the hotel?

Wouldn't take long to find these cretins!!!

[corkman]

WARNING - Stay away from dam_n bargirls, these sex tourists have no one to blame but themselves. No sympathy for him at all, lay down with dogs then you wake up with fleas.

Nothing indicates that this guy was a sex tourist. Also you really should stop cheering criminals on under the guise of the victim deserving it. Getting drunk and coming back to your hotel room with a woman doesn't make you a sex tourist.

No one deserves being drugged and robbed just as women with revealing clothes don't deserve to be raped.

dont deserve it, but perhaps ask for it ...... fool and their money are easily parted

[cdnski12]

A Thai Whore with a kind heart ... returning the passport. She probably knew the local beat cops would track her down, if she didn't return the passport. This was a very cheap lesson for Arndt. 1K ThB = $300 USD. There are literally 10,000's of ferangs, who ardently wish that is all the money they lost/expended on a Thai Lady in Thailand. Jez ... that includes myself!!

[QED]

A Thai Whore with a kind heart ... returning the passport. She probably knew the local beat cops would track her down, if she didn't return the passport. This was a very cheap lesson for Arndt. 1K ThB = $300 USD. There are literally 10,000's of ferangs, who ardently wish that is all the money they lost/expended on a Thai Lady in Thailand. Jez ... that includes myself!!

wow, which bank do you use??

[Brewsta]

Hello Namkangman,

Yes, I can guarantee that my drink will never be spiked because:

1) I only choose to drink in establishments where I know the Management and/or bar staff who open my bottle(s) of beer or (occasional) bottle of spirits in front of me at my table.

2) As a happily married man with a lovely and (relatively) sane Thai wife of 12 years and 2 lovely kids, I am no doubt fortunate in that I do not feel the need to party out or drink in saloons that are not familiar to me.

3) I gave up drink esoteric cocktails, etc, with flora and straws in, many years ago. I was no doubt fortunate that I had no worse fate than some killer hangovers through excessive entertainment during those years.

Finally, this use of incapacitory narcotics or beverages has been around since Man took his first drink. Thus IMO, your fear that such practices will spread like wildfire as the Word gets out is dated by countless events, and inevitable by its proven worldwide expansion year on year.

I do not speak for others nor deny the many ways that the unfortunate or foolish are succesfully targetted for their funds and more. I say this only as fact to rebut your incorrect assertion of my personal vulnerability.

Your thoughts appear well-intentioned and certainly the consequences can be dreadful for the victim(s) , but they most certainly do not apply to my life or personal situation.

Stay safe and smiling,

Brewsta

It must get pretty boring going to the same places all of the time "where you know the management" and feel safe. Talk about "comfort zone."

I suppose you don't have to worry about a bargirl robbing you when you have a Thai wife because you are already getting robbed, just in a nicer way.

Many are unfortunate here as they expect to have a nice relaxing holiday, not be drugged, robbed, scammed, ripped off, extorted, assaulted, lied to and cheated. Of course, none of this has ever happened to you because you are not "foolish" and to admit that you have been ripped off by a tuk tuk driver, for example, would be a big loss of "face" for you on TV.

Get out from behind your missus, and out of your comfort zone, and step back into "what Phuket has become 12 years later" and you will see that everyone is quite vulnerable here now. It's become a mine field and you have to watch your step. The place is vastly different to 12 years ago. You should see what has become of the place that you have decided to live in.

To criticize this German guy is harsh. You have no idea what is actually going on out there.

Ahhhh, another one with their head in the sand. Ignorance is bliss.

dear Namkangman,

I have lived and worked in more than two dozen countries on 3 continents over the last 40 years; I enjoy socialising in numerous establishments in many very pleasant places.

In addition, I have visited/lived in the Land of Smiles for the past 3 decades and have travelled frequently and extensively from the northern tip of the kingdom to the southern islands.

My wife is college educated; earns an excellent 5 figure monthly baht salary in a 5 Star Thai Restaurant and she is a beautiful and proud member of the Ulo Akha from Doi Tung near Chiangrai.

Her avaricious nature is naturally Thai and her challenging genetic makeup makes for a life that is never boring or staid. My business and pleasures - none of yours.

I only stand behind my wife occasionally, as a Sunshade for her [insert insincere giggles here].

Your comment about 'loss of face' is mildly amusing and needs no further comment.

Phuket is vastly different from when I first stayed there 26 years ago and sadly, a minority of both Thai and expats have made that idyllic playground into the 'minefield' that you mentioned.

As with the rest of the country, there is a very sage quote: "Thailand - Love it or Leave it".

I criticised the unfortunate German victim? Incorrect.

IMO, you certainly speak about blissful ignorance from an practised position and your head appears well stuck in a more odiferous and rear place.

Yawn - end of.

Brewsta

Edited January 22, 2012 by Brewsta

[Brewsta]

Hello Namkangman,

Yes, I can guarantee that my drink will never be spiked because:

1) I only choose to drink in establishments where I know the Management and/or bar staff who open my bottle(s) of beer or (occasional) bottle of spirits in front of me at my table.

2) As a happily married man with a lovely and (relatively) sane Thai wife of 12 years and 2 lovely kids, I am no doubt fortunate in that I do not feel the need to party out or drink in saloons that are not familiar to me.

3) I gave up drink esoteric cocktails, etc, with flora and straws in, many years ago. I was no doubt fortunate that I had no worse fate than some killer hangovers through excessive entertainment during those years.

Finally, this use of incapacitory narcotics or beverages has been around since Man took his first drink. Thus IMO, your fear that such practices will spread like wildfire as the Word gets out is dated by countless events, and inevitable by its proven worldwide expansion year on year.

I do not speak for others nor deny the many ways that the unfortunate or foolish are succesfully targetted for their funds and more. I say this only as fact to rebut your incorrect assertion of my personal vulnerability.

Your thoughts appear well-intentioned and certainly the consequences can be dreadful for the victim(s) , but they most certainly do not apply to my life or personal situation.

Stay safe and smiling,

Brewsta

Wow preacher man, I wish I was so enlightened. I also have a dislike for people making bullet points on forums, but, hey, if you can't beat em.....

1) I call BS on that - you have never left your home town? Been on holiday?

2) Wow, you must have married my gf's sister. I assume she has a Phd and is hi-so chinese?

3) Cock-tails???

QED,

your super 'member' classification is very appropriate, IMHumO (In my Humorous Opinion) and your dislikes are of no interest to me.

1.

(a)

(i) If you need Enlightenment, book into a Wat

(ii) You can call whomever you want - it's a free world

(

(i) Refer to my reply no. 77 in this topic because I am not a Thai national and you can probably compute that I left my native land and home

town to get to Thailand in the first place

(ii) Ditto in reference to having taken a holiday

2. Ditto in reference to your failed and slanderous drivel about my partner

3. Cocktail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocktail

A cocktail is an alcoholic mixed drink that contains two or more ingredients—at least one of the ingredients must be a spirit. Cocktails were originally a mixture of ...

QED,

from reading your appalling grammar, capitalisation, vocabulary, lack of salutation and general courtesy, etc, you are probably wise to avoid complex sentence construction and big words where possible.

But more seriously Folks, it certainly is smart to watch you back in La-La Land, because as we all know, there is a huge difference between humourous banter and horrific battery, whether financial, mental or physical, Thai or Expat alike.

Brewsta

　

Edited January 22, 2012 by Brewsta

[QED]

Hello Namkangman,

Yes, I can guarantee that my drink will never be spiked because:

1) I only choose to drink in establishments where I know the Management and/or bar staff who open my bottle(s) of beer or (occasional) bottle of spirits in front of me at my table.

2) As a happily married man with a lovely and (relatively) sane Thai wife of 12 years and 2 lovely kids, I am no doubt fortunate in that I do not feel the need to party out or drink in saloons that are not familiar to me.

3) I gave up drink esoteric cocktails, etc, with flora and straws in, many years ago. I was no doubt fortunate that I had no worse fate than some killer hangovers through excessive entertainment during those years.

Finally, this use of incapacitory narcotics or beverages has been around since Man took his first drink. Thus IMO, your fear that such practices will spread like wildfire as the Word gets out is dated by countless events, and inevitable by its proven worldwide expansion year on year.

I do not speak for others nor deny the many ways that the unfortunate or foolish are succesfully targetted for their funds and more. I say this only as fact to rebut your incorrect assertion of my personal vulnerability.

Your thoughts appear well-intentioned and certainly the consequences can be dreadful for the victim(s) , but they most certainly do not apply to my life or personal situation.

Stay safe and smiling,

Brewsta

Wow preacher man, I wish I was so enlightened. I also have a dislike for people making bullet points on forums, but, hey, if you can't beat em.....

1) I call BS on that - you have never left your home town? Been on holiday?

2) Wow, you must have married my gf's sister. I assume she has a Phd and is hi-so chinese?

3) Cock-tails???

QED,

your super 'member' classification is very appropriate, IMHumO (In my Humorous Opinion) and your dislikes are of no interest to me.

1.

(a)

(i) If you need Enlightenment, book into a Wat

(ii) You can call whomever you want - it's a free world

(

(i) Refer to my reply no. 77 in this topic because I am not a Thai national and you can probably compute that I left my native land and home

town to get to Thailand in the first place

(ii) Ditto in reference to having taken a holiday

2. Ditto in reference to your failed and slanderous drivel about my partner

3. Cocktail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocktail

A cocktail is an alcoholic mixed drink that contains two or more ingredients—at least one of the ingredients must be a spirit. Cocktails were originally a mixture of ...

QED,

from reading your appalling grammar, capitalisation, vocabulary, lack of salutation and general courtesy, etc, you are probably wise to avoid complex sentence construction and big words where possible.

But more seriously Folks, it certainly is smart to watch you back in La-La Land, because as we all know, there is a huge difference between humourous banter and horrific battery, whether financial, mental or physical, Thai or Expat alike.

Brewsta

　

Thanks, that was entertaining.

Let's discuss tomorrow when you are a little more sober, maybe we can both understand what you are talking about then....

[Brewsta]

Hello Namkangman,

Yes, I can guarantee that my drink will never be spiked because:

1) I only choose to drink in establishments where I know the Management and/or bar staff who open my bottle(s) of beer or (occasional) bottle of spirits in front of me at my table.

2) As a happily married man with a lovely and (relatively) sane Thai wife of 12 years and 2 lovely kids, I am no doubt fortunate in that I do not feel the need to party out or drink in saloons that are not familiar to me.

3) I gave up drink esoteric cocktails, etc, with flora and straws in, many years ago. I was no doubt fortunate that I had no worse fate than some killer hangovers through excessive entertainment during those years.

Finally, this use of incapacitory narcotics or beverages has been around since Man took his first drink. Thus IMO, your fear that such practices will spread like wildfire as the Word gets out is dated by countless events, and inevitable by its proven worldwide expansion year on year.

I do not speak for others nor deny the many ways that the unfortunate or foolish are succesfully targetted for their funds and more. I say this only as fact to rebut your incorrect assertion of my personal vulnerability.

Your thoughts appear well-intentioned and certainly the consequences can be dreadful for the victim(s) , but they most certainly do not apply to my life or personal situation.

Stay safe and smiling,

Brewsta

Wow preacher man, I wish I was so enlightened. I also have a dislike for people making bullet points on forums, but, hey, if you can't beat em.....

1) I call BS on that - you have never left your home town? Been on holiday?

2) Wow, you must have married my gf's sister. I assume she has a Phd and is hi-so chinese?

3) Cock-tails???

QED,

your super 'member' classification is very appropriate, IMHumO (In my Humorous Opinion) and your dislikes are of no interest to me.

1.

(a)

(i) If you need Enlightenment, book into a Wat

(ii) You can call whomever you want - it's a free world

(

(i) Refer to my reply no. 77 in this topic because I am not a Thai national and you can probably compute that I left my native land and home

town to get to Thailand in the first place

(ii) Ditto in reference to having taken a holiday

2. Ditto in reference to your failed and slanderous drivel about my partner

3. Cocktail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocktail

A cocktail is an alcoholic mixed drink that contains two or more ingredients—at least one of the ingredients must be a spirit. Cocktails were originally a mixture of ...

QED,

from reading your appalling grammar, capitalisation, vocabulary, lack of salutation and general courtesy, etc, you are probably wise to avoid complex sentence construction and big words where possible.

But more seriously Folks, it certainly is smart to watch you back in La-La Land, because as we all know, there is a huge difference between humourous banter and horrific battery, whether financial, mental or physical, Thai or Expat alike.

Brewsta

　

Thanks, that was entertaining.

Let's discuss tomorrow when you are a little more sober, maybe we can both understand what you are talking about then....

QED,

Wrong again. The only thing that I am drunk on is Life.

Your playground repartee lacks aphorism and I deduce no value in further discourse with you at this time.

Perhaps if you genuinely substitute 'entertaining' with 'educating' yourself, QED, in your future dealings with we adults, who knows?

Toddle Safe now you hear & watch those shadows,

Brewsta

[monty1412]

WARNING - Stay away from dam_n bargirls, these sex tourists have no one to blame but themselves. No sympathy for him at all, lay down with dogs then you wake up with fleas.

Stay away from PATONG more like it

[NamKangMan]

Hello Namkangman,

Yes, I can guarantee that my drink will never be spiked because:

1) I only choose to drink in establishments where I know the Management and/or bar staff who open my bottle(s) of beer or (occasional) bottle of spirits in front of me at my table.

2) As a happily married man with a lovely and (relatively) sane Thai wife of 12 years and 2 lovely kids, I am no doubt fortunate in that I do not feel the need to party out or drink in saloons that are not familiar to me.

3) I gave up drink esoteric cocktails, etc, with flora and straws in, many years ago. I was no doubt fortunate that I had no worse fate than some killer hangovers through excessive entertainment during those years.

Finally, this use of incapacitory narcotics or beverages has been around since Man took his first drink. Thus IMO, your fear that such practices will spread like wildfire as the Word gets out is dated by countless events, and inevitable by its proven worldwide expansion year on year.

I do not speak for others nor deny the many ways that the unfortunate or foolish are succesfully targetted for their funds and more. I say this only as fact to rebut your incorrect assertion of my personal vulnerability.

Your thoughts appear well-intentioned and certainly the consequences can be dreadful for the victim(s) , but they most certainly do not apply to my life or personal situation.

Stay safe and smiling,

Brewsta

It must get pretty boring going to the same places all of the time "where you know the management" and feel safe. Talk about "comfort zone."

I suppose you don't have to worry about a bargirl robbing you when you have a Thai wife because you are already getting robbed, just in a nicer way.

Many are unfortunate here as they expect to have a nice relaxing holiday, not be drugged, robbed, scammed, ripped off, extorted, assaulted, lied to and cheated. Of course, none of this has ever happened to you because you are not "foolish" and to admit that you have been ripped off by a tuk tuk driver, for example, would be a big loss of "face" for you on TV.

Get out from behind your missus, and out of your comfort zone, and step back into "what Phuket has become 12 years later" and you will see that everyone is quite vulnerable here now. It's become a mine field and you have to watch your step. The place is vastly different to 12 years ago. You should see what has become of the place that you have decided to live in.

To criticize this German guy is harsh. You have no idea what is actually going on out there.

Ahhhh, another one with their head in the sand. Ignorance is bliss.

dear Namkangman,

I have lived and worked in more than two dozen countries on 3 continents over the last 40 years; I enjoy socialising in numerous establishments in many very pleasant places.

In addition, I have visited/lived in the Land of Smiles for the past 3 decades and have travelled frequently and extensively from the northern tip of the kingdom to the southern islands.

My wife is college educated; earns an excellent 5 figure monthly baht salary in a 5 Star Thai Restaurant and she is a beautiful and proud member of the Ulo Akha from Doi Tung near Chiangrai.

Her avaricious nature is naturally Thai and her challenging genetic makeup makes for a life that is never boring or staid. My business and pleasures - none of yours.

I only stand behind my wife occasionally, as a Sunshade for her [insert insincere giggles here].

Your comment about 'loss of face' is mildly amusing and needs no further comment.

Phuket is vastly different from when I first stayed there 26 years ago and sadly, a minority of both Thai and expats have made that idyllic playground into the 'minefield' that you mentioned.

As with the rest of the country, there is a very sage quote: "Thailand - Love it or Leave it".

I criticised the unfortunate German victim? Incorrect.

IMO, you certainly speak about blissful ignorance from an practised position and your head appears well stuck in a more odiferous and rear place.

Yawn - end of.

Brewsta

And you expect me to believe this???? :) :)

Try something a little more realistic next time.

Do yourself a favour and go and work with the timeshare crew - you would probably "sign a few up." :) :)

[bino]

At 8:19am, the woman left the apartment with a black plastic bag that police presume to have contained the room safe, before she returned empty handed 10 minutes later. She is thought to have stayed in the room until later that afternoon.

The video footage also shows a different woman stopping outside the room at 9am to place Mr Schneider’s passport in his shoe.

What I find interesting is that the safe was carried out of the building, got cracked and another girl is back putting the passport in his shoe 41 mins later.

Also- "She is thought to have stayed in the room until later that afternoon". They couldn't determine this from the CCTV fotage? Camera stopped working?

I'm envisioning an insurance scam. German and BG hatch a crazy drunken plan at 7:30 in the morning. He helps her remove the safe and put it in a bag. She calls a friend to meet her outside and collect the package.

German guy realizes that he shouldn't have let his passport go, so BG calls her friend to bring it back, giving the PIN code number for the safe so as to make it quick and easy. Tells the friend not to disturb them and to leave the passport in a shoe outside because she and the German are completing the original transaction well into the afternoon.

Or - maybe the story is "jing". German was drugged as alleged. Still amazed that they got the safe to a place private enough to break it open with a hammer or whatever, and kind enough to return the passport 41 mins later. Meanwhile the thief is still inside - presumably enjoying the aircon, cable TV, minibar, hot water etc. until it is time for her to go back to work- knowing that the German isn't going to wake up anytime soon.

Edited January 23, 2012 by bino

[Brewsta]

Hello Namkangman,

Yes, I can guarantee that my drink will never be spiked because:

1) I only choose to drink in establishments where I know the Management and/or bar staff who open my bottle(s) of beer or (occasional) bottle of spirits in front of me at my table.

2) As a happily married man with a lovely and (relatively) sane Thai wife of 12 years and 2 lovely kids, I am no doubt fortunate in that I do not feel the need to party out or drink in saloons that are not familiar to me.

3) I gave up drink esoteric cocktails, etc, with flora and straws in, many years ago. I was no doubt fortunate that I had no worse fate than some killer hangovers through excessive entertainment during those years.

Finally, this use of incapacitory narcotics or beverages has been around since Man took his first drink. Thus IMO, your fear that such practices will spread like wildfire as the Word gets out is dated by countless events, and inevitable by its proven worldwide expansion year on year.

I do not speak for others nor deny the many ways that the unfortunate or foolish are succesfully targetted for their funds and more. I say this only as fact to rebut your incorrect assertion of my personal vulnerability.

Your thoughts appear well-intentioned and certainly the consequences can be dreadful for the victim(s) , but they most certainly do not apply to my life or personal situation.

Stay safe and smiling,

Brewsta

It must get pretty boring going to the same places all of the time "where you know the management" and feel safe. Talk about "comfort zone."

I suppose you don't have to worry about a bargirl robbing you when you have a Thai wife because you are already getting robbed, just in a nicer way.

Many are unfortunate here as they expect to have a nice relaxing holiday, not be drugged, robbed, scammed, ripped off, extorted, assaulted, lied to and cheated. Of course, none of this has ever happened to you because you are not "foolish" and to admit that you have been ripped off by a tuk tuk driver, for example, would be a big loss of "face" for you on TV.

Get out from behind your missus, and out of your comfort zone, and step back into "what Phuket has become 12 years later" and you will see that everyone is quite vulnerable here now. It's become a mine field and you have to watch your step. The place is vastly different to 12 years ago. You should see what has become of the place that you have decided to live in.

To criticize this German guy is harsh. You have no idea what is actually going on out there.

Ahhhh, another one with their head in the sand. Ignorance is bliss.

dear Namkangman,

I have lived and worked in more than two dozen countries on 3 continents over the last 40 years; I enjoy socialising in numerous establishments in many very pleasant places.

In addition, I have visited/lived in the Land of Smiles for the past 3 decades and have travelled frequently and extensively from the northern tip of the kingdom to the southern islands.

My wife is college educated; earns an excellent 5 figure monthly baht salary in a 5 Star Thai Restaurant and she is a beautiful and proud member of the Ulo Akha from Doi Tung near Chiangrai.

Her avaricious nature is naturally Thai and her challenging genetic makeup makes for a life that is never boring or staid. My business and pleasures - none of yours.

I only stand behind my wife occasionally, as a Sunshade for her [insert insincere giggles here].

Your comment about 'loss of face' is mildly amusing and needs no further comment.

Phuket is vastly different from when I first stayed there 26 years ago and sadly, a minority of both Thai and expats have made that idyllic playground into the 'minefield' that you mentioned.

As with the rest of the country, there is a very sage quote: "Thailand - Love it or Leave it".

I criticised the unfortunate German victim? Incorrect.

IMO, you certainly speak about blissful ignorance from an practised position and your head appears well stuck in a more odiferous and rear place.

Yawn - end of.

Brewsta

And you expect me to believe this????

Try something a little more realistic next time.

Do yourself a favour and go and work with the timeshare crew - you would probably "sign a few up."

Yawn - I don't give a Flying what you believe or not and I am unlikely to take any advice from you or join you 'touting' on the sand [insert huge applause here].

Time will show if you become a Stayer or, more sadly, a Statistic in the coming years.

[Brewsta]

On Topic,

have there been any further updates on the unfortunate victim in this case please?

Thanks,

Brewsta

[Payboy]

have there been any further updates on the unfortunate victim in this case please?

Brewsta

Nah, still German I'm afraid.

[Brewsta]

WARNING - Stay away from dam_n bargirls, these sex tourists have no one to blame but themselves. No sympathy for him at all, lay down with dogs then you wake up with fleas.

Stay away from PATONG more like it

Greetings Monty1412,

Ain't that the truth on both counts - but then the Tourism figures would plummet, eh?

regards,

Brewsta

[Brewsta]

have there been any further updates on the unfortunate victim in this case please?

Brewsta

Nah, still German I'm afraid.

Be nice now Payboy......nationality not his fault......an accident of birth.

I have a couple of excellent Teutonic friends who are great entertainment

Wiedersehen,

Brewsta

[BookMan]

have there been any further updates on the unfortunate victim in this case please?

Brewsta

Nah, still German I'm afraid.

Be nice now Payboy......nationality not his fault......an accident of birth.

I have a couple of excellent Teutonic friends who are great entertainment

Wiedersehen,

Brewsta

Greetings Brewsta.

off topic... why do you sign all your posts at the end 'Brewsta'?

It is obvious you have posted your own post, if you know what i mean.

I'm not sure why people do this.

BookMan

[Payboy]

No offence, I've tiptronic transmission in my car too.

[F1fanatic]

Hello Namkangman,

Yes, I can guarantee that my drink will never be spiked because:

1) I only choose to drink in establishments where I know the Management and/or bar staff who open my bottle(s) of beer or (occasional) bottle of spirits in front of me at my table.

2) As a happily married man with a lovely and (relatively) sane Thai wife of 12 years and 2 lovely kids, I am no doubt fortunate in that I do not feel the need to party out or drink in saloons that are not familiar to me.

3) I gave up drink esoteric cocktails, etc, with flora and straws in, many years ago. I was no doubt fortunate that I had no worse fate than some killer hangovers through excessive entertainment during those years.

Finally, this use of incapacitory narcotics or beverages has been around since Man took his first drink. Thus IMO, your fear that such practices will spread like wildfire as the Word gets out is dated by countless events, and inevitable by its proven worldwide expansion year on year.

I do not speak for others nor deny the many ways that the unfortunate or foolish are succesfully targetted for their funds and more. I say this only as fact to rebut your incorrect assertion of my personal vulnerability.

Your thoughts appear well-intentioned and certainly the consequences can be dreadful for the victim(s) , but they most certainly do not apply to my life or personal situation.

Stay safe and smiling,

Brewsta

It must get pretty boring going to the same places all of the time "where you know the management" and feel safe. Talk about "comfort zone."

I suppose you don't have to worry about a bargirl robbing you when you have a Thai wife because you are already getting robbed, just in a nicer way.

Many are unfortunate here as they expect to have a nice relaxing holiday, not be drugged, robbed, scammed, ripped off, extorted, assaulted, lied to and cheated. Of course, none of this has ever happened to you because you are not "foolish" and to admit that you have been ripped off by a tuk tuk driver, for example, would be a big loss of "face" for you on TV.

Get out from behind your missus, and out of your comfort zone, and step back into "what Phuket has become 12 years later" and you will see that everyone is quite vulnerable here now. It's become a mine field and you have to watch your step. The place is vastly different to 12 years ago. You should see what has become of the place that you have decided to live in.

To criticize this German guy is harsh. You have no idea what is actually going on out there.

Ahhhh, another one with their head in the sand. Ignorance is bliss.

dear Namkangman,

I have lived and worked in more than two dozen countries on 3 continents over the last 40 years; I enjoy socialising in numerous establishments in many very pleasant places.

In addition, I have visited/lived in the Land of Smiles for the past 3 decades and have travelled frequently and extensively from the northern tip of the kingdom to the southern islands.

My wife is college educated; earns an excellent 5 figure monthly baht salary in a 5 Star Thai Restaurant and she is a beautiful and proud member of the Ulo Akha from Doi Tung near Chiangrai.

Her avaricious nature is naturally Thai and her challenging genetic makeup makes for a life that is never boring or staid. My business and pleasures - none of yours.

I only stand behind my wife occasionally, as a Sunshade for her [insert insincere giggles here].

Your comment about 'loss of face' is mildly amusing and needs no further comment.

Phuket is vastly different from when I first stayed there 26 years ago and sadly, a minority of both Thai and expats have made that idyllic playground into the 'minefield' that you mentioned.

As with the rest of the country, there is a very sage quote: "Thailand - Love it or Leave it".

I criticised the unfortunate German victim? Incorrect.

IMO, you certainly speak about blissful ignorance from an practised position and your head appears well stuck in a more odiferous and rear place.

Yawn - end of.

Brewsta

Of course - I've no idea why NamKangMan doesn't believe you as most TV members are married/going out with college educated women earning a good salary.

(Although a "5 figure monthly baht salary" is not necessarily excellent - it depends on whether you are talking about 10,000 or 99,000!).