Tourist Police Arrest Illegal Russian Tour Company Worker In Central Pattaya

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Tourist Police arrest illegal Russian Tour Company Worker in Central Pattaya

PATTAYA:--A Russian National, accused of working illegally in Thailand, was arrested by the Tourist Police in the early hours of Monday.

Mr. Victor Shchigolev aged 32 was caught by Officers, working at a table in Soi 10 off Pattaya Second Road. Officers report he was selling tour packages to Russian Tourists and although the company he worked for, World of Chang Co Ltd, was registered as a Tour Company, Mr. Shchigolev did not possess a work permit which allowed him to sell the tours.

Full story:http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/48862/tourist-police-arrest-illegal-russian-tour-company-worker-central-pattaya/

-- Pattaya One 2012-02-13

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[ozzieman05]

Ooops

Does crucifiction ring a bell

[pauljones]

I thought the tourist police were here to assist foreigners?

They should be down on the beach busting the gangs.

[JakeBKK]

There was something about a crackdown on foreign operated tour company's on the news a while back, if I'm not mistaken.

[KKK]

I thought the tourist police were here to assist foreigners?

Never really have understood what the Tourist police duties are opposed to the regular police....surely there must be some demarkation as to who does what or is it who GETS what!

[aechzen]

he work illegal thats the topic

[rikkie]

I thought the tourist police were here to assist foreigners?

Never really have understood what the Tourist police duties are opposed to the regular police....surely there must be some demarkation as to who does what or is it who GETS what!

Easy i know a german who was caught in his own resto for making a coffee, if you don't want competition just make complain to tourist police, wow time's must be hard in Pattaya now.

[z12]

This is what the russian mafia has fallen to?

Edited February 14, 2012 by z12

[petercool]

Not a surprise nor the story of German making coffee in his own restaurant.

You can own a business but need a work permit to work in ANY capacity within that business.

The rules are clear enough.

And while Tourist Police usually can detain someone, they then take a person to a Police station for any formal arrest or fines.

They are a branch of the Royal Thai Police so are there primarily to uphold any laws, despite their specialist Tourist emphasis.

(there will be a lot of nonsense written here about that last statement, I am sure)

[Langsuan Man]

It's about time that the new Quality Tourists are starting to be looked at by Immigration

I still wonder why they have done nothing about the hello girls of the Eastern European extraction outside the Russian Clubs on Walking Street, not to mention checking the work permits of the entertainers at these establishments

[fred110]

It's about time that the new Quality Tourists are starting to be looked at by Immigration

I still wonder why they have done nothing about the hello girls of the Eastern European extraction outside the Russian Clubs on Walking Street, not to mention checking the work permits of the entertainers at these establishments

Those clubs are likely owned/co-owned by the BIB.

[petercool]

And your evidence for that is ? .... Beware of Thai libel laws.

In Thailand, even if something is true it can be considered as libelous.

Edited February 14, 2012 by petercool

[alanferdi]

I find some of do and donts of working for Foreigners in Thailand, particularly a bit absurd. If you are here on a pension visa. you cannot work! Thats clear and is understood. However, if a "farang" who is on a pension visa, helps his neighbour using his own power tools to drill or assist in friendly assistance... He could be booked in by immigration for working. Doesnt this stink.... come and retire in this country, make it your home and invest in electronic hobby items, but get done for helping your neighbour! The just expect these farangs to sleep around the whole day get mau in the night and spend their hard earned money.... It is interesting to note the list of 39 jobs that foreigners cannot do in Thailand...

Ministry of Foreign Affairs Handbook

Section 5: Starting a business in Thailand

Page 13

5.6 The Foreign Business Act and restricted occupations

There are two sets of regulations that place work restrictions on foreigners in

Thailand – A

Royal Decree which list occupations closed to foreigners, and a Law which closes certain activities to foreigners.

Restricted occupations

A Royal Decree in 1973 listed 39 occupations that were then closed to aliens. This list has

been amended on several occasions by subsequent Royal Decrees, the latest one in 1979. Prohibited occupations are:

• Labour

• Work in agriculture, animal breeding,

forestry, fishery or general farm

supervision

• Masonry, carpentry, or other

construction work

• Wood carving

• Driving motor vehicles or nonmotorised

carriers, except for piloting

international aircraft

• Shop attendant

• Auctioning

• Supervising, auditing or giving

services in accounting, except

occasional international auditing

• Gem cutting and polishing

• Hair cutting, hair dressing and

beautician work

• Hand weaving

• Mat weaving or making of wares from

reed, rattan, kenaf, straw or bamboo

pulp

• Manufacture of manual fibrous paper

• Manufacture of lacquerware

• Thai musical instrument production

• Manufacture of nielloware

• Goldsmith, silversmith and other

precious metal work

• Manufacture of bronzeware

• Thai doll making

• Manufacture of mattresses and padded

blankets

• Alms bowl making

• Manual silk product making

• Buddha image making

• Manufacture of knives

• Paper and cloth umbrella fabrication

• Shoemaking

• Hat making

• Brokerage or agency work, except in

international business

• Dressmaking

• Pottery or ceramics

• Manual cigarette rolling

• Legal or litigation service

• Clerical or secretarial work

• Manual silk reeling and weaving

• Thai character type-setting

• Hawking business

• Tourist guide or tour organising

agency

• Architectural work

• Civil engineering work

Its hard to define these jobs with chinese, Japanese and Lao people...or perhaps they just let them go scot free because they cannot pay. Immigration has collections, Tax has collections, Police has collections and many agencies riding around on scooters checking out from music to food licences.... This Industry of collections is sickening!!!.

Edited February 14, 2012 by alanferdi

[tragickingdom]

How terrible. Bad bad bad man. Did the Pattaya police had not anything else to do. Arresting murderers on the run or local politicians on the take, or was the problem that his company forgot to pay the tourist police?

[z12]

Is he also responsible for farangs flying off balconies?

Edited February 14, 2012 by z12

[JakeBKK]

I find some of do and donts of working for Foreigners in Thailand, particularly a bit absurd. If you are here on a pension visa. you cannot work! Thats clear and is understood. However, if a "farang" who is on a pension visa, helps his neighbour using his own power tools to drill or assist in friendly assistance... He could be booked in by immigration for working. Doesnt this stink.... come and retire in this country, make it your home and invest in electronic hobby items, but get done for helping your neighbour! The just expect these farangs to sleep around the whole day get mau in the night and spend their hard earned money.... It is interesting to note the list of 39 jobs that foreigners cannot do in Thailand...

This is from experience than, or just bragging around?

Its hard to define these jobs with chinese, Japanese and Lao people...or perhaps they just let them go scot free because they cannot pay. Immigration has collections, Tax has collections, Police has collections and many agencies riding around on scooters checking out from music to food licences.... This Industry of collections is sickening!!!.

Work permits for asean (lao) members (by Japanese you are mistaken) are different from let's say a European or US Expats (end even us are special by law) B -EX visa .

Know a bit of law:

look here : http://www.op.mahido...permit_eng.html

it is saying :

1. Definition

“Alien” means a natural person who is not of Thai nationality; “ Work ” means to engage in work by exerting energy or using knowledge whether or not in consideration of wages or other benefits.

Translation : Alien (You) means to engage ( breathe , look, talk, whatsoever) in work by exerting energy or using knowledge ( breathe , look, talk, or think) whether or not in consideration of wages or other benefits. ( it does not matter if you buy me a pint or give me quid / or you do it for fun) It is illegal! We , the authorities will say so / or not and your are within the kingdom's borders

edited twice: the font tags are not formatting properly with this editor admin

Edited February 14, 2012 by JakeBKK

[marstons]

Not a surprise nor the story of German making coffee in his own restaurant.

You can own a business but need a work permit to work in ANY capacity within that business.

The rules are clear enough.

And while Tourist Police usually can detain someone, they then take a person to a Police station for any formal arrest or fines.

They are a branch of the Royal Thai Police so are there primarily to uphold any laws, despite their specialist Tourist emphasis.

(there will be a lot of nonsense written here about that last statement, I am sure)

i think the confusion only arises with people perception of Forirgn volunteer police and Official Thai tourist police who i would think most people are aware are a part of the Royal Thai Police.

The official tourist Police do how ever turn a blind eye to violent criminal attacks on tourists from jet ski's operators, so a work permit issue does seem a little odd.

[JakeBKK]

Not a surprise nor the story of German making coffee in his own restaurant.

You can own a business but need a work permit to work in ANY capacity within that business.

The rules are clear enough.

And while Tourist Police usually can detain someone, they then take a person to a Police station for any formal arrest or fines.

They are a branch of the Royal Thai Police so are there primarily to uphold any laws, despite their specialist Tourist emphasis.

(there will be a lot of nonsense written here about that last statement, I am sure)

i think the confusion only arises with people perception of Forirgn volunteer police and Official Thai tourist police who i would think most people are aware are a part of the Royal Thai Police.

The official tourist Police do how ever turn a blind eye to violent criminal attacks on tourists from jet ski's operators, so a work permit issue does seem a little odd.

Well, think of this: the tour operator overbooked/whatsoever and the customers file a complaint with the Tourist police; they than, will have a look or ride with the customer to the place ( maybe they don't understand the customer properly and want to get the chap sorted out quickly / where ? show me !)

Edited February 14, 2012 by JakeBKK

[petercool]

There are two foreign volunteer police groups - the Foreign Tourist Police Assistants and the Foreign Police Volunteers. Those are often seen as the same but are not. The latter operates out of the Police stations and the former concentrate on patrolling Walking Street. The only time they overlap is when the US Navy is in town and both can be seen in Walking Street.

[gaucho]

rules r rules u cannot even work for free ...people continually push it i wish the authorities in oz and the uk would clamp down on illegals

[cali4995]

I thought the tourist police were here to assist foreigners?

They should be down on the beach busting the gangs.

yes the tourist police seem to have evolved into a elite force to hunt down bad (or not so bad) farangs with the

serve and protect the tourist and your first friend in thailand tourist campaigns largely forgotten. they seem to

selectively chose what they want to act upon often ignoring blatant crime against tourists which occurs daily