Scott Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Some off-topic posts and replies have been deleted, along with a number of purely hateful references to Iran, it's people and it's government. You are welcomed to your opinion, but speech which contains little more than very unflattering references have been removed. The same way they are done for the other side. The knife cuts both ways. Exercise care in your posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post schondie Posted February 23, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2012 Yep, must be a tinfoil hatter just because I tend to think there's probably more to these bombers than what's already been reported. The truth needs to be found out and that takes time, and just accepting that they're Iranian means that they must of had government backing is shallow. Maybe/Probably there's more to these terrorists than we think we know now. In recent history there's no evidence of Iran starting a succession of wars as opposed to the good ol USA and NATO under the guise of democracy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparebox2 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 The Iranian goverment wouldn't send such a bunch of amateurs to kill the Israeli staff me thinks. There's probably more truth to the story that these Iranians were here to discredit Iran and give Israel the excuse to start their attack on the nuclear facilities. As a westerner I must believe that Iran = Bad and USA/Israel/UK etc = Good I think UK is not involved here. You are not that important to be worth mentioning for this particular case. Please don't try to squeeze in. The room is full enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Iran Cooperates with Thailand in Verifying the Suspects of Explosions Incident The Iranian Ambassador has expressed readiness to cooperate with the Thai authorities in verifying the suspects’ of the recent explosions incident on Sukhumvit Soi 71 in Bangkok. Referring to the incident that took place on 14 February 2012, the Islamic Republic of Iran has reaffirmed that it was not involved with the explosions incident. Mr. Thani Thongphakdi, Director-General of the Department of Information and Foreign Ministry Spokesperson, stated that the Iranian Ambassador had expressed readiness to cooperate with the Thai authorities in verifying the suspects’ nationality as well as the authenticity of their passports. In this connection, he said, the Iranian Embassy in Thailand had already transmitted relevant documents to the Iranian Foreign Ministry and is awaiting results from Tehran. According to Mr. Thani, as of 21 February 2012, 15 countries/economic zones have issued travel alerts and advisories regarding the explosions incident. They include Canada, the United States, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Austria, the Netherlands, Japan, South Korea, Brazil, New Zealand, Italy, Norway, Israel, Taiwan, and Switzerland. All of them have not advised their nationals against traveling to Thailand, but only advised their citizens to closely monitor the situation, exercise caution and follow safety advices issued by Thai security agencies. Regarding the extradition of the suspect detained by Malaysian authorities, he said that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs had received an official request from the Office of the Attorney-General on 21 February 2012 regarding this issue and is in the process of conveying the request to the Malaysian side via diplomatic channels. Foreign Office, The Government Public Relations Department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 The Iranian goverment wouldn't send such a bunch of amateurs to kill the Israeli staff me thinks. There's probably more truth to the story that these Iranians were here to discredit Iran and give Israel the excuse to start their attack on the nuclear facilities. As a westerner I must believe that Iran = Bad and USA/Israel/UK etc = Good I think UK is not involved here. You are not that important to be worth mentioning for this particular case. Please don't try to squeeze in. The room is full enough. Actually, the president of Iran does sometimes mention the UK when similarly condemning the US and Israel. Also, there was that recent issue with the UK embassy there:http://articles.cnn.com/2011-11-30/world/world_europe_uk-iran-demonstrations_1_britain-and-iran-embassy-compound-embassy-incident?_s=PM:EUROPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airconsult Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 The Iranian goverment wouldn't send such a bunch of amateurs to kill the Israeli staff me thinks. There's probably more truth to the story that these Iranians were here to discredit Iran and give Israel the excuse to start their attack on the nuclear facilities. As a westerner I must believe that Iran = Bad and USA/Israel/UK etc = Good I think UK is not involved here. You are not that important to be worth mentioning for this particular case. Please don't try to squeeze in. The room is full enough. Actually, the president of Iran does sometimes mention the UK when similarly condemning the US and Israel. Also, there was that recent issue with the UK embassy there:http://articles.cnn....nt?_s=PM:EUROPE Violation of article 22 (and article 30) of the Vienna Convention on diplomatic relations which Iran signed in 1961 and ratified in 1965. http://treaties.un.org/Pages/ViewDetails.aspx?src=TREATY&mtdsg_no=III-3&chapter=3〈=en The specific violation is 22.2 "The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the mission or impairment of its dignity." Treaty Text (pdf) http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/texts/instruments/english/conventions/9_1_1961.pdf Article 22 1.The premises of the mission shall be inviolable. The agents of the receiving State may not enter them, except with the consent of the head of the mission. 2.The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the mission or impairment of its dignity. 3.The premises of the mission, their furnishings and other property thereon and the means of transport of the mission shall be immune from search, requisition, attachment or execution. Article 30 1.The private residence of a diplomatic agent shall enjoy the same inviolability and protection as the premises of the mission. 2.His papers, correspondence and, except as provided in paragraph 3 of article 31, his property, shall likewise enjoy inviolability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahkit Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Yep, must be a tinfoil hatter just because I tend to think there's probably more to these bombers than what's already been reported. The truth needs to be found out and that takes time, and just accepting that they're Iranian means that they must of had government backing is shallow. Maybe/Probably there's more to these terrorists than we think we know now. In recent history there's no evidence of Iran starting a succession of wars as opposed to the good ol USA and NATO under the guise of democracy. So you think its shallow to accept that they must of had government backing based on their nationality but in your previous post you said: "There's probably more truth to the story that these Iranians were here to discredit Iran and give Israel the excuse to start their attack on the nuclear facilities." Isn't it equally shallow to make/accept such a statement when you have absolutely no proof of any Israeli involvement? Edited February 23, 2012 by nahkit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 BOMB SUSPECTS Iran "willing to assist Thailand" in identifying bombers The Nation TEHERAN: -- Iran said Wednesday it was willing to assist Thailand in identifying "the culprits" behind the Valentine's Day bomb blasts in Bangkok. Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast said Iran would "introduce them to the international community as a gesture of good will," Islamic Iranian News Agency (IRNA) reported Wednesday. He also denied claims Iran was involved in the attack, saying "they are all fabricated and false and are parts of a scenario prepared by US and Zionist officials". Israel has accused Iran of orchestrating the attack because it feels pressured by the "Islamic awakening movements" in Mideast countries that saw regime changes during the Arab Spring. Last week Mehmanparast said Israel blamed Iran for the attack to try and harm "the friendly and historic relations" between the Islamic Republic and Thailand. Thai police have issued arrest warrants against five Iranians for involvement in the blasts. Three have been detained, one fled to Iran and another is still at large. -- The Nation 2012-02-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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geriatrickid Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 The thread's news feed has gone from Iran co-operating to "willing" to co-operate. Sorry, but this is the same M.O. as the nuclear inspection dance that's been going on for years. Thailand is playing along because it dropped the ball on this. Warnings were given, and I would expect intelligence shared with the Thai military, the entity responsible for the national security apparatus. And yet the Thai response was to deny the threat and to demand the warnings be retracted. These statements of co-operation are jut more hot air from the implicated parties. And as an aside, to those that keep insisting this thread is filled with people "demanding" war with Iran. You are wrong. No one wants a war, particularly since it would not remain regional and would expand very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Who knows, identity theft is the basis of Mossad operations, and a manipulated terrorist network could be dismantled ? Making good quality false ID's is stock and trade of any 'intelligence' service worth its rubber stamps. However, how can anyone explain how Mossad could get Iranians to be their pawns, and have them take flights back and forth to Iran, ........and get shielded by Iranian authorities, as is happening as we speak - with the woman suspect who is in Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Who knows, identity theft is the basis of Mossad operations, and a manipulated terrorist network could be dismantled ? Making good quality false ID's is stock and trade of any 'intelligence' service worth its rubber stamps. However, how can anyone explain how Mossad could get Iranians to be their pawns, and have them take flights back and forth to Iran, ........and get shielded by Iranian authorities, as is happening as we speak - with the woman suspect who is in Iran. Well some people suspect that Ahmadinejad has some Jewish blood, so who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 And as an aside, to those that keep insisting this thread is filled with people "demanding" war with Iran. You are wrong. No one wants a war, particularly since it would not remain regional and would expand very quickly. Exactly. The Iranian government needs to live up to the non-proliferation agreement that they have signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GentlemanJim Posted February 23, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2012 And as an aside, to those that keep insisting this thread is filled with people "demanding" war with Iran. You are wrong. No one wants a war, particularly since it would not remain regional and would expand very quickly. Exactly. The Iranian government needs to live up to the non-proliferation agreement that they have signed. But the USA don't, so why the double standard? Israel continues to ignore dozens of UN resolutions against it, so why the double standard. If we all got our own house straight first, then we would have the moral high ground to sort everybody else out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeOboe57 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 But the USA don't, so why the double standard? Israel continues to ignore dozens of UN resolutions against it, so why the double standard. If we all got our own house straight first, then we would have the moral high ground to sort everybody else out. It is not about "our own house", it's about a couple of Iranians coming as "tourists" to Thailand, blowing up a house and injuring ordinary Thai citizens with grenades, nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GentlemanJim Posted February 23, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2012 But the USA don't, so why the double standard? Israel continues to ignore dozens of UN resolutions against it, so why the double standard. If we all got our own house straight first, then we would have the moral high ground to sort everybody else out. It is not about "our own house", it's about a couple of Iranians coming as "tourists" to Thailand, blowing up a house and injuring ordinary Thai citizens with grenades, nothing else. Well if that's all it is why all the fuss? Bombs are going off in the South every week that kill people and are planted by Muslim extremists, and the worlds press don't seem to care less about that? If only it were as simple as you make out, we could possibly avoid a war then! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Who knows, identity theft is the basis of Mossad operations, and a manipulated terrorist network could be dismantled ? Making good quality false ID's is stock and trade of any 'intelligence' service worth its rubber stamps. However, how can anyone explain how Mossad could get Iranians to be their pawns, and have them take flights back and forth to Iran, ........and get shielded by Iranian authorities, as is happening as we speak - with the woman suspect who is in Iran. Well some people suspect that Ahmadinejad has some Jewish blood, so who knows? Perhaps. It is of academic interest but doesn't change his religion which is Muslim, or his political stance towards Holocaust denial and the existence of the Jewish state of Israel.http://www.foreignpo...idecomments=yes This article posits that the Jewish rumor or reality makes things worse between Iran and Israel as long as he is president. If I had to bet, I'd say the rumors are probably true. Consequently, Ahmadinejad's Jewish background, if it does exist, will only make peace in the Middle East and compromise with the United States less likely on his part. And in endeavoring to deflect and vitiate complications -- actual or imaginary -- from his past, the Iranian president continues to sully his nation's image and tarnish his own legacy. Edited February 23, 2012 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaRanter Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 The ones bombing the south don't have passports, they are natives. But the USA don't, so why the double standard? Israel continues to ignore dozens of UN resolutions against it, so why the double standard. If we all got our own house straight first, then we would have the moral high ground to sort everybody else out. It is not about "our own house", it's about a couple of Iranians coming as "tourists" to Thailand, blowing up a house and injuring ordinary Thai citizens with grenades, nothing else. Well if that's all it is why all the fuss? Bombs are going off in the South every week that kill people and are planted by Muslim extremists, and the worlds press don't seem to care less about that? If only it were as simple as you make out, we could possibly avoid a war then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nisa Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Iran willing to help Thailand identify 'real terrorists' http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/NB24Ae01.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeOboe57 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 It is not about "our own house", it's about a couple of Iranians coming as "tourists" to Thailand, blowing up a house and injuring ordinary Thai citizens with grenades, nothing else. Well if that's all it is why all the fuss? [...] That's all. After 30 years of brainwashing BS by the mullah regime some idiots have decided to go on a personal jihad - and failed miserably. Thats why the Iranian government wants to distance itself from these amateurs. But I can understand the ego-boosting feelings of suspecting behind it an evil jewish masterplan to destroy the world. Israel can sit back and watch its arch enemy Syria being torn apart by a brutal civil war and as the unrest is already spilling over into Lebanon this will also keep Iran's proxy Hezbollah busy with securing its power base. Why disturb your enemies while they are killing one another and unite them by launching an attack on one of them? The Iranian people will most probably not accept another rigged election and Ahmadinejad cannot serve another term. So it would be foolish to reunite the mullahs and the Iranian people by waging a war against Iran. But what about my nice conspiracy theory? Use it as toilet paper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 The ones bombing the south don't have passports, they are natives. But the USA don't, so why the double standard? Israel continues to ignore dozens of UN resolutions against it, so why the double standard. If we all got our own house straight first, then we would have the moral high ground to sort everybody else out. It is not about "our own house", it's about a couple of Iranians coming as "tourists" to Thailand, blowing up a house and injuring ordinary Thai citizens with grenades, nothing else. Well if that's all it is why all the fuss? Bombs are going off in the South every week that kill people and are planted by Muslim extremists, and the worlds press don't seem to care less about that? If only it were as simple as you make out, we could possibly avoid a war then! Last time I checked Malaysians needed passports! Most of the ringleaders are Malaysian, living in Malasia! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 The last time I checked this thread was about the bombings in Thailand--Bangkok to be more specific. Please stay on the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Well some people suspect that Ahmadinejad has some Jewish blood, so who knows? There's a story that Mohammed himself, who used to be the leader of raiding parties which terrorized outlying villages around Medina, got Biblically cozy with a jewish girl. Rumour has it, that on one of the raiding parties, Mohammed's leutenant captured a young Jewish girl, and took her as booty to his tent. Next morning, after a restless night of tossing and turning (and carnal thoughts?), Mohammed told the Leutenant that Allah had spoken to Him and declared that the girl was supposed to be with Him (Mohammed). Obviously, the Leutenant couldn't argue with his boss, nor with the word of Allah, so........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blows Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Will Iran be extraditing Rohani Leila back to Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Will Iran be extraditing Rohani Leila back to Thailand? Phone them up and ask them. Tell them you insist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 The next thing we will hear is that Ahmedinejad himself will be scouting the adandonned enterprise parks of Ayuthaya looking for a suitable place to locate his thousands of high speed candy floss rotators. Yingluck will subsequently announce it as a great step forward for Thailand to have a business partner such as Iran and a positive message to the international community that the industrial parks north of Bangkok are in business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Iran willing to help Thailand identify 'real terrorists' http://www.atimes.co...a/NB24Ae01.html Good article there Nisa - thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nisa Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) Iran willing to help Thailand identify 'real terrorists' http://www.atimes.co...a/NB24Ae01.html Good article there Nisa - thanks Merely a ranting verbose opinion piece with nothing to offer. Like the majority of your posts then. You know what is funny, I just noticed I copied the wrong link. Here is the link (http://www.ynetnews....4193689,00.html) to the article titled: Iran willing to help Thailand identify 'real terrorists' Despite the arrest of a number of Iranians believed to be behind last week's botched terror attack against Israeli diplomats in Bangkok, Iran is certain the "real culprits" are still at large My point of providing the link was simply to wonder if the translation in the OP got lost and Iran was speaking about not helping confirm identity of the known suspects but saying they will help identify what they describe as "the real" people behind the bombings. Edited February 24, 2012 by Nisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 A number of off-topic posts and replies have been deleted. I do realize that some were not serious, but such is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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