'Maybe They All Must Die First': Thai Analysis

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ANALYSIS

'Maybe they all must die first'

Tulsathit Taptim

The Nation

Wasant

Constitution Court chief's gloomy analysis of reconciliation process coincides with new setbacks and controversies

BANGKOK: -- Constitution Court President Wasant Soipisut was probably only echoing many people's opinions, but his verdict on the prospect of the ongoing "reconciliation" process appeared damning nonetheless. "I can't see how we can achieve peace," he said, while giving a speech marking the court's anniversary. "Maybe this generation of political rivals have to die first."

The statement coincided with a new wave of pessimism, setbacks and controversies rocking the ruling camp's campaign for reconciliation. The House of Representatives was thrown into turmoil earlier this week over attempts to rush through a contentious peace blueprint initiated by researchers of the King Prajadhipok's Institute. The House committee vetting the charter amendment bill courted a scandal yesterday by going back on a resolution that went against government proposals.

An idea to have Privy Council chief Prem Tinsulanonda and Thaksin Shinawatra meet has been welcomed, criticised and ridiculed.

"The very people who are calling for reconciliation do not want to actually be reconciled with their enemies," said Wasant. Given the occasion, he seemed to be speaking his heart. Similar messages, however, have been sent out by various others, including those with political motives. The critics of the government's reconciliation move are trying to chip away at its proclaimed purpose, saying all the signals point toward unilateral efforts to serve individuals' needs, not national interests.

"It's not reconciliation if the goal is to serve Thaksin's needs," a yellow-shirt leader, Suriyasai Katasila, said of the idea to have Prem meet Thaksin. Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva also heavily criticised the idea, saying he could not understand how the two men's meeting would put to rest Thailand's multi-dimensional political divide.

It was Chart Thai Pattana adviser Sanan Kachornprasart who called for such a meeting. Whereas Abhisit obviously does not agree with this idea, he certainly must embrace Sanan's other proposal.

The Chart Thai Pattana veteran, who used to be a powerful man in Abhisit's party, also suggested that the King Prajadhipok report should be withdrawn from the House of Representatives after the document on Tuesday triggered one of the most exasperating confrontations on the parliamentary floor in recent memory.

The King Prajadhipok's Institute is to have a high-level meeting on Monday to consider the report, which contains a proposal to nullify corruption investigations carried out in the wake of the 2006 coup. The institute's top men have reportedly been upset that researchers' hard work meant to help the country achieve political peace seems to be having the opposite effect. Speculation yesterday focused on whether the institute would eventually "pull back" the report, and whether that could actually be done, now that the House of Representatives has voted to kick-start its deliberation.

If the House of Representatives begins deliberating the report, the political temperature will keep rising. A parallel problem concerns the charter amendment bill, which the government hopes will pave the way for the setting up of an elected national assembly to draft a brand-new Constitution. The second reading of the bill is running behind schedule and the government whips were yesterday lobbying for an extension of the current parliamentary session, which ends in the middle of next month, for another month.

The extension would keep the timeframe for enacting a new Constitution on track. But again, the ruling party is being asked why the "reconciliation" plan has to proceed in such a hurry. The proposed extension has fuelled criticism that the overall "peace" process may actually have been designed to serve specific needs.

Defenders of the government's move insist that something has to be done, and that controversies are common and to be expected. However, according to the critics, to do things quickly is one thing, but doing things selectively that seem to benefit just one side is another. The Democrats, in particular, are saying that the current process is nothing but blame one side and absolve the other.

Whether Wasant is right or wrong, this tumultuous week is just a prelude. The contents of the King Prajadhipok's Institute report have not even been debated yet. The charter amendment bill is only in the middle of the second reading. There will still have to be an election of Constitution drafters, who will have to handle all kinds of explosive issues. And last but not least, their draft will have to go before a national referendum. Wasant didn't say this, but peace remains far off, and a new political war always appears closer.

[kurnell]

He's hit the nail on the head. Kids in the playground are more mature than these jokers

[jerrysteve]

OK no Reconciliation period! Case solved! Next!

[edwinchester]

"Maybe they all must die first"

I hope the esteemed gentleman is not advocating a Benny Aquino type welcome when someone returns from Dubai.

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[CalgaryII]

"The very people who are calling for reconciliation do not want to actually be reconciled with their enemies," said Wasant"

At least it has been shown by 'word and deed' who is interested in Reconciliation, and who is not. Those seeking what they cannot get via other means, such as elections, and when that doesn't work, take their 'ball and bat and go home'......... Just put it in a perspective of one-on-one..... If you were a Red Shirt, are you expected to seek reconciliation with a guy who looks down his arrogant nose at you, sees you as a lesser being with zero political sensibilities, a guy who stole your Govt. and beat the sh.. out of you when you objected. What would you say to a guy like that? I won't indicate what I would say to him, but I sure wouldn't bother with any reconcilaition stuff, that is for sure. Maybe I would say, "see ya at election time'.

Edited March 30, 2012 by CalgaryII

[AZBill]

Unless human nature does an about-face in the next generation, nothing will change. Though I would agree that the only good politician is a dead one!

[FOODLOVER]

Bet this guy is great at parties.

[Valentine]

Trouble is the kids usually end up in the family business.

[AleG]

"The very people who are calling for reconciliation do not want to actually be reconciled with their enemies," said Wasant"

At least it has been shown by 'word and deed' who is interested in Reconciliation, and who is not. Those seeking what they cannot get via other means, such as elections, and when that doesn't work, take their 'ball and bat and go home'......... Just put it in a perspective of one-on-one..... If you were a Red Shirt, are you expected to seek reconciliation with a guy who looks down his arrogant nose at you, sees you as a lesser being with zero political sensibilities, a guy who stole your Govt. and beat the sh.. out of you when you objected. What would you say to a guy like that? I won't indicate what I would say to him, but I sure wouldn't bother with any reconcilaition stuff, that is for sure. Maybe I would say, "see ya at election time'.

It's hard not to look down on people while they are groveling at Thaksin's feet. Once they ditch him and start to stand on their own feet then face-to-face becomes easier.

[lovetotravel]

"The very people who are calling for reconciliation do not want to actually be reconciled with their enemies," said Wasant"

At least it has been shown by 'word and deed' who is interested in Reconciliation, and who is not. Those seeking what they cannot get via other means, such as elections, and when that doesn't work, take their 'ball and bat and go home'......... Just put it in a perspective of one-on-one..... If you were a Red Shirt, are you expected to seek reconciliation with a guy who looks down his arrogant nose at you, sees you as a lesser being with zero political sensibilities, a guy who stole your Govt. and beat the sh.. out of you when you objected. What would you say to a guy like that? I won't indicate what I would say to him, but I sure wouldn't bother with any reconcilaition stuff, that is for sure. Maybe I would say, "see ya at election time'.

Agreed. What about all the PTP promises. Like reconciliation is a priority, bringing Thaksin back is not? Broken promise. I feel sorry for the red shirts today. Seriously. They're being played and are just starting to figure this out.

If you were a yellow shirt, how can you seek reconciliation when your elected government does not follow through on their promises? When the economy is doing badly, but everything is focused on one of the wealthiest people in the world. Not on the poorer people in your country.. When your elected government officials drive around in Bentley's. Looking down their nose at their fellow red shirts.

As for the riots, break the law and you're going to pay the price. As they are doing now for burning and looting Bangkok. That's the way it should be, right? Elections were just around the corner, but their leaders didn't want to wait, so they had the poorest people in Thailand put their lives on the line, then ran when they told all of them not to. Hard to call them leaders.

Problems are on both sides. You're so one sided.

[noitom]

"Thai analysis" is an oxymoron. Like jumbo shrimp and military intelligence.

[GentlemanJim]

"The very people who are calling for reconciliation do not want to actually be reconciled with their enemies," said Wasant"

At least it has been shown by 'word and deed' who is interested in Reconciliation, and who is not. Those seeking what they cannot get via other means, such as elections, and when that doesn't work, take their 'ball and bat and go home'......... Just put it in a perspective of one-on-one..... If you were a Red Shirt, are you expected to seek reconciliation with a guy who looks down his arrogant nose at you, sees you as a lesser being with zero political sensibilities, a guy who stole your Govt. and beat the sh.. out of you when you objected. What would you say to a guy like that? I won't indicate what I would say to him, but I sure wouldn't bother with any reconcilaition stuff, that is for sure. Maybe I would say, "see ya at election time'.

CalgaryII for the umptyzillionth time, the Government was not stolen from the Reds! Had your messiah not been so busy trying to rob as much money as possible from the Thai people during his tenure as PM and not been paving the way for a communist coup of his own, the country would not be in the mess it is in now. Prem did what was required and his stools contain a greater sense of duty than that combined in Thaksin's entire family.

Saying "see ya at election time" would be almost the right thing to say, but more appropriately "see you at election time during which time we will not be able to bribe, bully and coerce the disadvanted poor in the North, nor will we be allowed to make pre election promises that have been plucked from the 'ideas box' at the local Cubs and Brownies annual Ging Gang Gooley celebrations. Furthermore any MP subsequently elected to either house will face the full force of Thai law should they be found to be involved in misappropriation of funds and assets during their time in Government". Maybe we might start on the road to reconcilliation then!!

The Gentleman in the OP is absolutely correct, this lot will need to die first. What we need to consider is how to stop their offspring repeating the same treasonous behaviour when they 'inherit' their parents Parliamentary seats.

[whybother]

Red shirt reconciliation :- accept corruption.

[lovetotravel]

I'm trying to find the interview, but the owner of Cabbages and Condoms said for Thailand to move forward and be a world class nation, the current fat cats must die. He's spending time trying to educate their children in the hopes they won't follow in their parents footsteps. He recently setup a meet between these "fat cat" children and Bill Gates to discuss the merits of giving to charity.

[DP25]

"Maybe this generation of political rivals have to die first."

Unfortunately I don't think Thailand is that lucky

[scorecard]

"The very people who are calling for reconciliation do not want to actually be reconciled with their enemies," said Wasant"

At least it has been shown by 'word and deed' who is interested in Reconciliation, and who is not. Those seeking what they cannot get via other means, such as elections, and when that doesn't work, take their 'ball and bat and go home'......... Just put it in a perspective of one-on-one..... If you were a Red Shirt, are you expected to seek reconciliation with a guy who looks down his arrogant nose at you, sees you as a lesser being with zero political sensibilities, a guy who stole your Govt. and beat the sh.. out of you when you objected. What would you say to a guy like that? I won't indicate what I would say to him, but I sure wouldn't bother with any reconcilaition stuff, that is for sure. Maybe I would say, "see ya at election time'.

CalgaryII for the umptyzillionth time, the Government was not stolen from the Reds! Had your messiah not been so busy trying to rob as much money as possible from the Thai people during his tenure as PM and not been paving the way for a communist coup of his own, the country would not be in the mess it is in now. Prem did what was required and his stools contain a greater sense of duty than that combined in Thaksin's entire family.

Saying "see ya at election time" would be almost the right thing to say, but more appropriately "see you at election time during which time we will not be able to bribe, bully and coerce the disadvanted poor in the North, nor will we be allowed to make pre election promises that have been plucked from the 'ideas box' at the local Cubs and Brownies annual Ging Gang Gooley celebrations. Furthermore any MP subsequently elected to either house will face the full force of Thai law should they be found to be involved in misappropriation of funds and assets during their time in Government". Maybe we might start on the road to reconcilliation then!!

The Gentleman in the OP is absolutely correct, this lot will need to die first. What we need to consider is how to stop their offspring repeating the same treasonous behaviour when they 'inherit' their parents Parliamentary seats.

Further, 'reconciliation' is just a spin word for 'whitewash' and it's focus in one on one group only - greedy unethical politicians, so that they can get back to the feeding frenzy and get their pyramid get rch rish quick schemes running at top speed.

There is no focus in the current talk about 'reconciliation' in regard to what's good, overall, for Thailand, what's good for building a better picture of democracy, etc., for Thailand.

The answer in fact to all these problems is very simple - total and absolute respect for the law, equal aplication of the law for all Thais, good morals and good values.

[scorecard]

"The very people who are calling for reconciliation do not want to actually be reconciled with their enemies," said Wasant"

At least it has been shown by 'word and deed' who is interested in Reconciliation, and who is not. Those seeking what they cannot get via other means, such as elections, and when that doesn't work, take their 'ball and bat and go home'......... Just put it in a perspective of one-on-one..... If you were a Red Shirt, are you expected to seek reconciliation with a guy who looks down his arrogant nose at you, sees you as a lesser being with zero political sensibilities, a guy who stole your Govt. and beat the sh.. out of you when you objected. What would you say to a guy like that? I won't indicate what I would say to him, but I sure wouldn't bother with any reconcilaition stuff, that is for sure. Maybe I would say, "see ya at election time'.

CalgaryII for the umptyzillionth time, the Government was not stolen from the Reds! Had your messiah not been so busy trying to rob as much money as possible from the Thai people during his tenure as PM and not been paving the way for a communist coup of his own, the country would not be in the mess it is in now. Prem did what was required and his stools contain a greater sense of duty than that combined in Thaksin's entire family.

Saying "see ya at election time" would be almost the right thing to say, but more appropriately "see you at election time during which time we will not be able to bribe, bully and coerce the disadvanted poor in the North, nor will we be allowed to make pre election promises that have been plucked from the 'ideas box' at the local Cubs and Brownies annual Ging Gang Gooley celebrations. Furthermore any MP subsequently elected to either house will face the full force of Thai law should they be found to be involved in misappropriation of funds and assets during their time in Government". Maybe we might start on the road to reconcilliation then!!

The Gentleman in the OP is absolutely correct, this lot will need to die first. What we need to consider is how to stop their offspring repeating the same treasonous behaviour when they 'inherit' their parents Parliamentary seats.

Dear CalgaryII,

Yes the folks who are interested in moving Thailand forward are the folks that oppose all this crap about 'reconciliation' which is just a spin for 'whitewash' and let's get back to the feeding frenzy, with no focus on really taking Thail forward in terms of building strong democracy, or enhancing respect for the law, or equal application of the law. And no discussion or policy whatever, zero, in regard to reducing the gap.

On the other side are those (your buddies) who are hell bent on enhancing their own personal sitations - refurbishing the get rich quick club an it's selective membership and using the word 'reconciliation' to try (with your help) to make it sound good for Thailand.

[phiphidon]

"The very people who are calling for reconciliation do not want to actually be reconciled with their enemies," said Wasant"

At least it has been shown by 'word and deed' who is interested in Reconciliation, and who is not. Those seeking what they cannot get via other means, such as elections, and when that doesn't work, take their 'ball and bat and go home'......... Just put it in a perspective of one-on-one..... If you were a Red Shirt, are you expected to seek reconciliation with a guy who looks down his arrogant nose at you, sees you as a lesser being with zero political sensibilities, a guy who stole your Govt. and beat the sh.. out of you when you objected. What would you say to a guy like that? I won't indicate what I would say to him, but I sure wouldn't bother with any reconcilaition stuff, that is for sure. Maybe I would say, "see ya at election time'.

CalgaryII for the umptyzillionth time, the Government was not stolen from the Reds! Had your messiah not been so busy trying to rob as much money as possible from the Thai people during his tenure as PM and not been paving the way for a communist coup of his own, the country would not be in the mess it is in now. Prem did what was required and his stools contain a greater sense of duty than that combined in Thaksin's entire family.

Saying "see ya at election time" would be almost the right thing to say, but more appropriately "see you at election time during which time we will not be able to bribe, bully and coerce the disadvanted poor in the North, nor will we be allowed to make pre election promises that have been plucked from the 'ideas box' at the local Cubs and Brownies annual Ging Gang Gooley celebrations. Furthermore any MP subsequently elected to either house will face the full force of Thai law should they be found to be involved in misappropriation of funds and assets during their time in Government". Maybe we might start on the road to reconcilliation then!!

The Gentleman in the OP is absolutely correct, this lot will need to die first. What we need to consider is how to stop their offspring repeating the same treasonous behaviour when they 'inherit' their parents Parliamentary seats.

Dear CalgaryII,

Yes the folks who are interested in moving Thailand forward are the folks that oppose all this crap about 'reconciliation' which is just a spin for 'whitewash' and let's get back to the feeding frenzy, with no focus on really taking Thail forward in terms of building strong democracy, or enhancing respect for the law, or equal application of the law. And no discussion or policy whatever, zero, in regard to reducing the gap.

On the other side are those (your buddies) who are hell bent on enhancing their own personal sitations - refurbishing the get rich quick club an it's selective membership and using the word 'reconciliation' to try (with your help) to make it sound good for Thailand.

Ahem, Abhisit was the the person who set up the TRCT for truth and reconciliation. No bad thing, unfortunately it was plainly evident how committed to reconciliation he was as he neglected to give the TRCT powers of subpoena, which would certainly have helped at the time. I'd imagine the RTA , Suthep and Abhisit have got their stories aligned by now.

[BigJohnnyBKK]

If you were a yellow shirt, how can you seek reconciliation when your elected government does not follow through on their promises?

No government is going to deliver on its election promises, no Thai politicians are going to clean up corruption or introduce rule of law, let's get practical.

Since the Thaksin holds all the real power, reconciliation means the yellows accepting his pardon and return and letting the country get back to business. Face it he's bought the government fair and square, maybe it would be a bit more effective if he didn't have to try to manage everything from overseas.

[geriatrickid]

CalgaryII for the umptyzillionth time, the Government was not stolen from the Reds! Had your messiah not been so busy trying to rob as much money as possible from the Thai people during his tenure as PM and not been paving the way for a communist coup of his own, the country would not be in the mess it is in now. Prem did what was required and his stools contain a greater sense of duty than that combined in Thaksin's entire family.

Saying "see ya at election time" would be almost the right thing to say, but more appropriately "see you at election time during which time we will not be able to bribe, bully and coerce the disadvanted poor in the North, nor will we be allowed to make pre election promises that have been plucked from the 'ideas box' at the local Cubs and Brownies annual Ging Gang Gooley celebrations. Furthermore any MP subsequently elected to either house will face the full force of Thai law should they be found to be involved in misappropriation of funds and assets during their time in Government". Maybe we might start on the road to reconcilliation then!!

The Gentleman in the OP is absolutely correct, this lot will need to die first. What we need to consider is how to stop their offspring repeating the same treasonous behaviour when they 'inherit' their parents Parliamentary seats.

Thaksin was planning a communist coup? This is something only an american would say. Your european compatriots call Thaksin a right wing neo con. Please pick a label and reach a common point of pettiness.

[sparebox2]

Let for get the coup. Let by gone be by gone.

But let not forget the evil Thaksin.

[lovetotravel]

If you were a yellow shirt, how can you seek reconciliation when your elected government does not follow through on their promises?

No government is going to deliver on its election promises, no Thai politicians are going to clean up corruption or introduce rule of law, let's get practical.

Since the Thaksin holds all the real power, reconciliation means the yellows accepting his pardon and return and letting the country get back to business. Face it he's bought the government fair and square, maybe it would be a bit more effective if he didn't have to try to manage everything from overseas.

100% correct. Governments worldwide nowadays are pretty sad. Unfortunately here, they are a notch below the rest.

I don't agree with letting him back. And neither do a lot of Thais. There's the sticking point. He's been convicted of crimes. He needs to deal with them. Back room deals, payments, whatever. But deal with them and get them out of the way. Hiding overseas is not the solution. Coming back in style without dealing with them is not the solution either. Right?

[MAJIC]

"Maybe this generation of political rivals have to die first."

Seems like the author of the above statement,may very well be right,we all can see there are many in Political Parties,that have no intention to yeild anything, and it wouldn't take more than a few minutes to comprise a list of those that are a hindrance to the peace process,a sensible prediction,but Thailand would find it much too long a wait for his prediction to come true.

Edited March 30, 2012 by MAJIC

[GentlemanJim]

CalgaryII for the umptyzillionth time, the Government was not stolen from the Reds! Had your messiah not been so busy trying to rob as much money as possible from the Thai people during his tenure as PM and not been paving the way for a communist coup of his own, the country would not be in the mess it is in now. Prem did what was required and his stools contain a greater sense of duty than that combined in Thaksin's entire family.

Saying "see ya at election time" would be almost the right thing to say, but more appropriately "see you at election time during which time we will not be able to bribe, bully and coerce the disadvanted poor in the North, nor will we be allowed to make pre election promises that have been plucked from the 'ideas box' at the local Cubs and Brownies annual Ging Gang Gooley celebrations. Furthermore any MP subsequently elected to either house will face the full force of Thai law should they be found to be involved in misappropriation of funds and assets during their time in Government". Maybe we might start on the road to reconcilliation then!!

The Gentleman in the OP is absolutely correct, this lot will need to die first. What we need to consider is how to stop their offspring repeating the same treasonous behaviour when they 'inherit' their parents Parliamentary seats.

Thaksin was planning a communist coup? This is something only an american would say. Your european compatriots call Thaksin a right wing neo con. Please pick a label and reach a common point of pettiness.

Well it seems the pettiness was merely in your comment.

And how could 'Thaksin was planning a communist coup', be something only an American would say? I am not American and I said it, so my label was already picked!

[notime]

Thailand - Hub of reconciliations. Maybe also "hub of love" ?

[volk666]

Opposition to Thaksin whitewashing is far more widespread than Abhisit and a few shady "ammarts". How many people exactly need to die?

[Tanaka]

CalgaryII for the umptyzillionth time, the Government was not stolen from the Reds! Had your messiah not been so busy trying to rob as much money as possible from the Thai people during his tenure as PM and not been paving the way for a communist coup of his own, the country would not be in the mess it is in now. Prem did what was required and his stools contain a greater sense of duty than that combined in Thaksin's entire family.

Saying "see ya at election time" would be almost the right thing to say, but more appropriately "see you at election time during which time we will not be able to bribe, bully and coerce the disadvanted poor in the North, nor will we be allowed to make pre election promises that have been plucked from the 'ideas box' at the local Cubs and Brownies annual Ging Gang Gooley celebrations. Furthermore any MP subsequently elected to either house will face the full force of Thai law should they be found to be involved in misappropriation of funds and assets during their time in Government". Maybe we might start on the road to reconcilliation then!!

The Gentleman in the OP is absolutely correct, this lot will need to die first. What we need to consider is how to stop their offspring repeating the same treasonous behaviour when they 'inherit' their parents Parliamentary seats.

Thaksin was planning a communist coup? This is something only an american would say. Your european compatriots call Thaksin a right wing neo con. Please pick a label and reach a common point of pettiness.

Can you try and make a serious effort to grow up? I know it would not automatically make you any wiser but it would hopefully make you less infantile. I understand from your avatar name that you are very confused but do try anyway.

[GentlemanJim]

Does reconciliation mean that the Government will also release the other 100 000 prisoners jailed over the last 8 years for robbery, rape, murder, terrorism and fraud (that should put a smile on old no legs from Iran)? Or is this yet again something the Government want to push through that is only of great benefit to self serving politicians?

It made me think, why will they jail old no legs? Apart from himself nobody was hurt, but I think they will jail him for the intent, which was terrorism. It made me wonder what was the intent of Arissman and Jatuporn, when in front of 10 000 people they were asking those people to 'kill army soldiers, just run them over, then it will only be a road traffic offence', and 'burn Bangkok to the ground, burn the banks, burn the hospitals, burn the government buildings'? Seems they make Mr No Legs look a bit of a lightweight amateur when it comes to terrorism. No wonder they want reconciliation!

Edited March 30, 2012 by GentlemanJim

[volk666]

This is according to Democrats, but one guy prepared several homemade bombs, he threw a couple at the local bank, then one exploded in his hands severely injuring him. How unfortunate, but the current government paid millions in compensation.

Are they going to pay that Iranian dude, too? He only has to prove that his bomb throwing was political in nature.

Actually two cases aren't the same. The red shirt guy really believed that bombing banks was just and fair, the Iranian dude knew it was wrong.

The problem for the country going forward is admitting that bombing banks is just and fair, they just don't want to admit that it has come to this. They, the Democrats and others, want to keep an illusion that there's still respect for the "old" law in this country. No, there isn't. The old sense of right and wrong is just old, the new standard is that one who wins elections makes the rules.

[hellodolly]

"The very people who are calling for reconciliation do not want to actually be reconciled with their enemies," said Wasant"

At least it has been shown by 'word and deed' who is interested in Reconciliation, and who is not. Those seeking what they cannot get via other means, such as elections, and when that doesn't work, take their 'ball and bat and go home'......... Just put it in a perspective of one-on-one..... If you were a Red Shirt, are you expected to seek reconciliation with a guy who looks down his arrogant nose at you, sees you as a lesser being with zero political sensibilities, a guy who stole your Govt. and beat the sh.. out of you when you objected. What would you say to a guy like that? I won't indicate what I would say to him, but I sure wouldn't bother with any reconcilaition stuff, that is for sure. Maybe I would say, "see ya at election time'.

Well it is obvious through your posts the only reconciliation you would consider is every one to be like you and worship the convicted convict who bank rolled a armed peaceful demonstration that ended up with over 90 people dead and a bungled attempt to burn Thailand down?

Why does he not come back to Thailand if it is all just a political thing like you believe and want others to believe. After all it is his Sister who is the Prime Minister and most of her cabinet on his pay roll?

Here's a novel idea why not take the whole thing to people who have nothing t gain by it. Just a honest concern for Thailand. Might have to go out side of Thailand to find enough people willing to think of what is the best for the country as a whole.

Certainly the Government being run by a self exiled convicted criminal would not even be considered.

Here's a novel idea why don't we go to the polls and see what the people want. We already know 52% of them don't want Thaksin.