PM Yingluck Tells Deep South Of Govt's Plans To Restore Peace In Region

[philw]

Scenes of the train bombing...

PM Yingluck Tells Deep South Of Govt's Plans To Restore Peace In Region

Does anyone know when the kickoff date of this new plan is?

It was kicked off 204 days ago.

Her program achieved this distinction covering from 3,125 days ago

this year had been the worst for vehicular bomb attacks since violence flared in the Deep South in 2004

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Your agenda is naked, old boy.

[Buchholz]

Scenes of the train bombing...

PM Yingluck Tells Deep South Of Govt's Plans To Restore Peace In Region

Does anyone know when the kickoff date of this new plan is?

It was kicked off 204 days ago.

Her program achieved this distinction covering from 3,125 days ago

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this year had been the worst for vehicular bomb attacks since violence flared in the Deep South in 2004

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Your agenda is naked, old boy.

Talk dirty to me, Phil.

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[philw]

Thought you might like that, old boy..........

It's an English expression.

[ttelise]

PM Yingluck Tells Deep South Of Govt's Plans To Restore Peace In Region

Does anyone know when the kickoff date of this new plan is?

It was kicked off 204 days ago.

Her program achieved this distinction covering from 3,125 days ago

this year had been the worst for vehicular bomb attacks since violence flared in the Deep South in 2004

.

Your agenda is naked, old boy.

Playing devil's advocate here, but what would you have her do when military round up like Tak Bai leads to coups. Probably afraid to do what really needs to be done due to divided public opinion on use if force and the Yellow shirt spin machine that will go after her if force is used.

[Buchholz]

Your agenda is naked, old boy.

Playing devil's advocate here, but what would you have her do when military round up like Tak Bai leads to coups. Probably afraid to do what really needs to be done due to divided public opinion on use if force and the Yellow shirt spin machine that will go after her if force is used.

You could inform the devil that just for the record, I don't think the "Yellow shirt spin machine" is powerful enough to control the UN Human Rights Committee or the Asian Human Rights Commission or a number of outside-Thailand organizations that have discussed and condemned the atrocities of the Deep South.

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[ttelise]

Your agenda is naked, old boy.

Playing devil's advocate here, but what would you have her do when military round up like Tak Bai leads to coups. Probably afraid to do what really needs to be done due to divided public opinion on use if force and the Yellow shirt spin machine that will go after her if force is used.

You could inform the devil that just for the record, I don't think the "Yellow shirt spin machine" is powerful enough to control the UN Human Rights Committee or the Asian Human Rights Commission or a number of outside-Thailand organizations that have discussed and condemned the atrocities of the Deep South.

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Great example of how your being obcessed with your hate for Thaksin you cannot hear any other message. The message had nothing to do with Tak Bai, but concerns that use of force now will result in similar issues and perceptions NOW. The Human Rights Watch seems more ocerned with abuses and atrocities since 2006 committed by the whack jobs who will unfortunately never understand or be persuaded by anything by overwhelming and decessive force.

Seems like those in charge post Thaksin coup were actally much worse than Thanksin regime.

The Asian Human Rights Commission accused the military of beating and torturing suspected insurgents by burning their genitals with cigarettes, smashing beer bottles over their knees, and chaining them to dogs. Such abuses were alleged to have occurred in October 2006, after the military seized power. In December 2006, a group of 20 Muslims, 9 men and 11 women aged between 2 and 55, sought political asylum in Malaysia. They claimed that the post-coup regime was more aggressive against civilians and that they were continuously harassed by the Army.

I also question whethere this really has much to do with land any more. In March 2007, the junta's top security advisor admitted that insurgents imported their techniques from Al-Qaeda and the Taliban and were motivated by not only by nationalist reasons, like previous generations of insurgents, but religious extremism as well.

[Buchholz]

Your agenda is naked, old boy.

Playing devil's advocate here, but what would you have her do when military round up like Tak Bai leads to coups. Probably afraid to do what really needs to be done due to divided public opinion on use if force and the Yellow shirt spin machine that will go after her if force is used.

You could inform the devil that just for the record, I don't think the "Yellow shirt spin machine" is powerful enough to control the UN Human Rights Committee or the Asian Human Rights Commission or a number of outside-Thailand organizations that have discussed and condemned the atrocities of the Deep South.

Seems like those in charge post Thaksin coup were actally much worse than Thanksin regime.

As he was the instigator for the escalation of violence 8 years ago, its difficult to top that aspect. Also, I don't see too many reports which describe the situation afterwards as necessarily being described as "much worse" than occurred during his regime. If you have specific and linked articles on that matter, it would be appreciated.

Although, we do have this very recent report which addresses those in charge, post-Thaksin.

this year had been the worst for vehicular bomb attacks since violence flared in the Deep South in 2004

November 18, 2012

ps. a polite request to hold off on the over-personal inflammatory talk in deference to the subject

Thanks.

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Edited November 19, 2012 by Buchholz

[ttelise]

Playing devil's advocate here, but what would you have her do when military round up like Tak Bai leads to coups. Probably afraid to do what really needs to be done due to divided public opinion on use if force and the Yellow shirt spin machine that will go after her if force is used.

You could inform the devil that just for the record, I don't think the "Yellow shirt spin machine" is powerful enough to control the UN Human Rights Committee or the Asian Human Rights Commission or a number of outside-Thailand organizations that have discussed and condemned the atrocities of the Deep South.

Seems like those in charge post Thaksin coup were actally much worse than Thanksin regime.

As he was the instigator for the escalation of violence 8 years ago, its difficult to top that aspect. Also, I don't see too many reports which describe the situation afterwards as necessarily being described as "much worse" than occurred during his regime. If you have specific and linked articles on that matter, it would be appreciated.

Although, we do have this very recent report which addresses those in charge, post-Thaksin.

this year had been the worst for vehicular bomb attacks since violence flared in the Deep South in 2004

November 18, 2012

ps. a polite request to hold off on the over-personal inflammatory talk in deference to the subject

Thanks.

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Funny how partisan politic issues results in narrow views even in matters such as the South or your ability to address or acknowledge 9 out of 10 points raised.

The way I see it, based on human rights commission reports and a more objective account of the Southern insurgency issues, is as follows:

(1). Terrorism has been ongoing since 2001;

(2). There had been a huge escalation of violence or terrorism in 2004 prior to Tak Bai consisting of 700 deaths between January and Tak Bai in 2004;

(3). 2005 insurgency deaths declined;

(4). 06 and 07 post coup deaths escalated badly and Human rights commission notes use if torture chambers and use of torture techniques by post coup Thai army;

(5). Insurgency deaths declined following post coup Thai military's abusive techniques;

(6). Violence has steady increased since a return to pure diplomatic measures to resolve insurgency.

Obviously, you will draw your own conclusions, but it seems that decisive and forceful intervention is the only measure these insurgents understand.

This segways back to my original point. That is simply whether Yingluck is being too soft on the resistance due to concerns that public perception will get skewed against if another Tak Bai like incident arises, which it likely will if force is used.