Thaksin At Odds With Reds Over Call For Justice

[hellodolly]

Sondhi Limthongkul ? Still not in jail for defrauding investors and tax authorities? How come that a man with his background can be quoted. He is the first that will feel the torn of the reds and any other who see that the Thai courts are corrupted to the bone.

" the torn of the reds" ???

Thai courts recently sentenced red shirt k. Bandit to 38 years for multiple offences including firing an RPG ar a revered temple. Are you saying this is not justified by the related Thai laws?

Arisman is likely to be found guilty of incitement/conspiracy to commit arson which saw 30 buildings destroyed. He is likely to receive a similar sentence IMHO. Do you think this would not be justified under Thai law?

To save time, could you indicate why you consider the courts corrupt?

Because they don't act when he wants them to and they don't give the decisions he wants.

Truth of the matter is he wants them to be corrupt under his guidance,

[Skywalker69]

btw you think mr T is having a fun time in Dubai - have you ever lived there? I have

What do you think he can do as a square face - holed up in his penthouse sending out lackies for takeaway khao pats.

Its a very closed society for hiso of the levantine persuasion. Even his mega bucks wouldnt open many doors

Kind of luxury open prison for him

Well if he is bored, he can always move to Nigeria, Montenegro or Nicaragua.

[Buchholz]

The positive side of k. Thaksin having jumped bail and 'voluntarily' decided on a self-exile in luxury (aka criminal on the run) is that it makes attempts to be compared with pro-democracy figures like Aung San Suu Kyi and Nelson Mandela more ludicrous with a touch of "delusions of grandeur'

No doubt that will be painfully obvious next week when Aung San Suu Kyi makes her first trip outside of Myanmar in 24 years.

She will be coming here to Bangkok to attend the World Economic Forum on East Asia.

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[Crushdepth]

"If you don't want to reconcile, I don't mind living abroad. But you should think who would benefit from the continuing fight because only arms merchants will become rich."

What a pig. And lest we forget, the police seized 600 M79 grenade launchers from an illicit assembly line in March 2010. I wonder who commissioned that?

[OzMick]

"If you don't want to reconcile, I don't mind living abroad. But you should think who would benefit from the continuing fight because only arms merchants will become rich."

What a pig. And lest we forget, the police seized 600 M79 grenade launchers from an illicit assembly line in March 2010. I wonder who commissioned that?

From memory only, weren't they parts for M-79 launchers rather than the whole unit?

[Curt1591]

This fool believe his own rhetoric, that this is about him.

It's good to see that the many of reds realize it's not. He has simply been the poster boy!

[phiphidon]

Sondhi Limthongkul ? Still not in jail for defrauding investors and tax authorities? How come that a man with his background can be quoted. He is the first that will feel the torn of the reds and any other who see that the Thai courts are corrupted to the bone.

" the torn of the reds" ???

Thai courts recently sentenced red shirt k. Bandit to 38 years for multiple offences including firing an RPG ar a revered temple. Are you saying this is not justified by the related Thai laws?

Arisman is likely to be found guilty of incitement/conspiracy to commit arson which saw 30 buildings destroyed. He is likely to receive a similar sentence IMHO. Do you think this would not be justified under Thai law?

To save time, could you indicate why you consider the courts corrupt?

Just possibly because he has been jailed and bailed by the courts 4 times now. Having called for a coup in January this year, he is currently out on bail after being handed a twenty year sentence..........................

(Reuters) - A firebrand media mogul and leader of Thailand's royalist "yellow shirts" protest movement was jailed on Tuesday for 20 years for securities fraud, but immediately bailed on appeal.

The Criminal Court sentenced Sondhi Limthongkul, who led protests in 2005, 2006 and 2008 that undermined two elected governments led or backed by ousted former premier Thaksin Shinawatra, to a total of 85 years in prison, but commuted the term twice to 20 years.

He pleaded guilty to signing false documents that allowed his Manager Media Group to seek bank loans amounting to 1.1 billion baht but was freed on bail pending an appeal against the sentence.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/02/28/thailand-yellowshirts-idINDEE81R0EQ20120228

Do you notice the difference in the handling of his case/s?

[swillowbee]

"But for red-shirt leaders at the Ratchaprasong rally, their key message was a demand for justice over the bloodshed. No-one talked about bringing Thaksin home.

On the issue of reconciliation, it is clear that Thaksin and his red allies are not on the same page.

Thaksin wants the red shirts to let bygones be bygones. But the reds insist on uncovering the truth about their blood spilled before this occurs."

____________________________________________________

Historically, once the privileged Thais take control of a political movement, the uninformed, illiterate and hapless poor prai follow without questions ... patronage politics ... millions of voters follow the money passed down to their 'tribe'.

... (note the 'who gets rich' appeal in Toxin's speech, above ... it apparently did not work).

Fast forward to 2012 ... we might be witnessing a nascent ideology evolving in a Thai political movement ... for the first time ... Thai patronage politics has never, ever been defined by any ideology; only charismatic, crooks from high-born Thai families ... the recognition of an ideology by a newly awakened and empowered rank and file, and the keen awareness that the old school privileged leadership is maligned with that ideology could mean a new era in Thai politics ... no more mindless kreng jai ... no more money over principles.

Imagine the surprise by the political leaderships, who could formerly rely on being corrupt and having kreng jai to win hapless voters to their 'tribe'.

Maybe it is too much to hope for in the Thais' perversion of a political system, but we can hope a change is afoot.

[gand]

"If you don't want to reconcile, I don't mind living abroad. But you should think who would benefit from the continuing fight because only arms merchants will become rich."

What a pig. And lest we forget, the police seized 600 M79 grenade launchers from an illicit assembly line in March 2010. I wonder who commissioned that?

From memory only, weren't they parts for M-79 launchers rather than the whole unit?

"Police raid M79 launcher assembly factory seize 600 launchers."

Samut Prakan - Police raided a factory here and seized 600 assembled M79 launchers and over 5,000 other parts for assembling the launchers.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Police-raid-M79-launcher-assembly-factory-seize-60-30124650.html

[phiphidon]

"If you don't want to reconcile, I don't mind living abroad. But you should think who would benefit from the continuing fight because only arms merchants will become rich."

What a pig. And lest we forget, the police seized 600 M79 grenade launchers from an illicit assembly line in March 2010. I wonder who commissioned that?

From memory only, weren't they parts for M-79 launchers rather than the whole unit?

And as the police themselves said more than likely for export. No links to the red shirts ever found.

Thai police think the illegally made M79 grenade launcher parts seized in Ayutthaya on 13 March and more in the neighboring Samut Prakan on the next day are for the United Wa State Army (UWSA) that is currently at loggerheads with Burma’s ruling military junta over the Border Guard Force (BGF) deal, according to the news community in Bangkok.

The factory owner Cherdyod Jirawattanarak had reportedly admitted that he had already delivered over 1,000 of the parts to the arms traffickers. Police found 600 completed parts for the M79 grenade launchers. Chief of Police Region #1 Krissada Pankongchuen said his investigators had yet to conclude that the seizures were linked to the red shirt demonstrations that began on 13 March, the same day the seizure was made.

“But the huge quantity of the seizure indicates that they are likely to be more for export than for internal use,” a newsman quoted the police as saying.

Demand for arms and ammo have been on the rise since tensions between the Burma Army and the UWSA were on the rise since last year.

Though they are more easily purchased in China, with which the Wa share a common border, transporting them to the Thai-Burma border through several checkpoints set up by the Burma Army has been an unsolvable problem, according to Wa sources.

http://www.shanland....bels&Itemid=301

Edited May 24, 2012 by phiphidon

[Moruya]

Sondhi Limthongkul ? Still not in jail for defrauding investors and tax authorities? How come that a man with his background can be quoted. He is the first that will feel the torn of the reds and any other who see that the Thai courts are corrupted to the bone.

" the torn of the reds" ???

Thai courts recently sentenced red shirt k. Bandit to 38 years for multiple offences including firing an RPG ar a revered temple. Are you saying this is not justified by the related Thai laws?

Arisman is likely to be found guilty of incitement/conspiracy to commit arson which saw 30 buildings destroyed. He is likely to receive a similar sentence IMHO. Do you think this would not be justified under Thai law?

To save time, could you indicate why you consider the courts corrupt?

Just possibly because he has been jailed and bailed by the courts 4 times now. Having called for a coup in January this year, he is currently out on bail after being handed a twenty year sentence..........................

(Reuters) - A firebrand media mogul and leader of Thailand's royalist "yellow shirts" protest movement was jailed on Tuesday for 20 years for securities fraud, but immediately bailed on appeal.

The Criminal Court sentenced Sondhi Limthongkul, who led protests in 2005, 2006 and 2008 that undermined two elected governments led or backed by ousted former premier Thaksin Shinawatra, to a total of 85 years in prison, but commuted the term twice to 20 years.

He pleaded guilty to signing false documents that allowed his Manager Media Group to seek bank loans amounting to 1.1 billion baht but was freed on bail pending an appeal against the sentence.

http://in.reuters.co...E81R0EQ20120228

Do you notice the difference in the handling of his case/s?

Thaksin got 2 years?

Firing an RPG at a temple is half as bad as fraud?

[OzMick]

Sondhi Limthongkul ? Still not in jail for defrauding investors and tax authorities? How come that a man with his background can be quoted. He is the first that will feel the torn of the reds and any other who see that the Thai courts are corrupted to the bone.

" the torn of the reds" ???

Thai courts recently sentenced red shirt k. Bandit to 38 years for multiple offences including firing an RPG ar a revered temple. Are you saying this is not justified by the related Thai laws?

Arisman is likely to be found guilty of incitement/conspiracy to commit arson which saw 30 buildings destroyed. He is likely to receive a similar sentence IMHO. Do you think this would not be justified under Thai law?

To save time, could you indicate why you consider the courts corrupt?

Just possibly because he has been jailed and bailed by the courts 4 times now. Having called for a coup in January this year, he is currently out on bail after being handed a twenty year sentence..........................

(Reuters) - A firebrand media mogul and leader of Thailand's royalist "yellow shirts" protest movement was jailed on Tuesday for 20 years for securities fraud, but immediately bailed on appeal.

The Criminal Court sentenced Sondhi Limthongkul, who led protests in 2005, 2006 and 2008 that undermined two elected governments led or backed by ousted former premier Thaksin Shinawatra, to a total of 85 years in prison, but commuted the term twice to 20 years.

He pleaded guilty to signing false documents that allowed his Manager Media Group to seek bank loans amounting to 1.1 billion baht but was freed on bail pending an appeal against the sentence.

http://in.reuters.co...E81R0EQ20120228

Do you notice the difference in the handling of his case/s?

What's to see? The Thai law allows bail pending appeal, and rich people have enough money to post it. I certainly don't think that it should be allowed after someone is found guilty of violence offences.

But I much prefer to see convicted criminals given bail than to have them avoid court because Yingluk's lackey Tharit fails to investigate, recommends dropping of high-profile cases, or simply changes the definition of the offence.

[jaidam]

Sondhi Limthongkul ? Still not in jail for defrauding investors and tax authorities? How come that a man with his background can be quoted. He is the first that will feel the torn of the reds and any other who see that the Thai courts are corrupted to the bone.

(Reuters) - A firebrand media mogul and leader of Thailand's royalist "yellow shirts" protest movement was jailed on Tuesday for 20 years for securities fraud, but immediately bailed on appeal.

The Criminal Court sentenced Sondhi Limthongkul, who led protests in 2005, 2006 and 2008 that undermined two elected governments led or backed by ousted former premier Thaksin Shinawatra, to a total of 85 years in prison, but commuted the term twice to 20 years.

He pleaded guilty to signing false documents that allowed his Manager Media Group to seek bank loans amounting to 1.1 billion baht but was freed on bail pending an appeal against the sentence.

http://in.reuters.co...E81R0EQ20120228

Do you notice the difference in the handling of his case/s?

Thaksin got 2 years?

Firing an RPG at a temple is half as bad as fraud?

Sonthi was also shot at 84 times. Does this count as punishment, or simply a random occurence?

[BirdsandBooze]

He could agree to throw the confiscated BT46 billion into the pot to assist those companies genuinely struggling to pay the new 300 baht minimum wage introduced by his political pals as a vote winner.

[OzMick]

And as the police themselves said more than likely for export. No links to the red shirts ever found.

Thai police think the illegally made M79 grenade launcher parts seized in Ayutthaya on 13 March and more in the neighboring Samut Prakan on the next day are for the United Wa State Army (UWSA) that is currently at loggerheads with Burma’s ruling military junta over the Border Guard Force (BGF) deal, according to the news community in Bangkok.

The factory owner Cherdyod Jirawattanarak had reportedly admitted that he had already delivered over 1,000 of the parts to the arms traffickers. Police found 600 completed parts for the M79 grenade launchers. Chief of Police Region #1 Krissada Pankongchuen said his investigators had yet to conclude that the seizures were linked to the red shirt demonstrations that began on 13 March, the same day the seizure was made.

“But the huge quantity of the seizure indicates that they are likely to be more for export than for internal use,” a newsman quoted the police as saying.

Demand for arms and ammo have been on the rise since tensions between the Burma Army and the UWSA were on the rise since last year.

Though they are more easily purchased in China, with which the Wa share a common border, transporting them to the Thai-Burma border through several checkpoints set up by the Burma Army has been an unsolvable problem, according to Wa sources.

http://www.shanland....bels&Itemid=301

"Thai police think.........." Quite possibly they had a re-think when M-79 grenades started flying around Bangkok.

"....investigators had yet to conclude...." In your mind does that mean there is no link?

Even if there is NO link to this batch, how does it alter the basic fact that they WERE used by the redshirts? What are you trying to prove?

[animatic]

"If you don't want to reconcile, I don't mind living abroad. But you should think who would benefit from the continuing fight because only arms merchants will become rich."

The way I read this is as follows:

Reconcile or fight.

If you don't reconcile, it's fine with me, I am happy in Dubai.

If you choose to fight, no-one benefits.

Does this make me a rouge?

Thaksin start to show his real colour.

If you don´t help me home I will give my money to merchant.

He has periodically inadvertently shown his true self, typically under times of stress.

When the 2006 election was thrown-out and he missed the dead line

for running the election, the election commissioners were removed,

and his cabinet was jumping ship, he showed his inability to deal with the stress well.

IN words and deeds, and sheer hubris. All the above contributed to his removal from

the Acting PM seat he had unilaterally taken back after resigning publicly.

Again during the first of two Red Songkrans,

when he slipped about offering money on video,

and again when he dropped the ball being interviewed by international press,

he showed how unstable he can be under pressure.

When the Supreme Court case took his money,

he visibly lost it, not able to hide his intentions, and that lead to the expected

Reds take over of Bangkok, and levels of violence not seen in decades.

This was not happening till THAKSIN SET IT IN MOTION.

And now with his plans seemingly thwarted yet again,

even with his 2nd puppet government installed,and attempts to white wash

his crimes coming at loggerheads with the Red Teams wants,

he is suddenly finding he doesn't have the control he imagined he had... oopsie T.

So in this latest speech his nerves got to him and he over-reached yet again,

and this time even the most obtuse and brainwashed Reds caught the gaff and are enraged.

Pandora's box is open, the cracks in his political machines constructed facade

are tangenting in all directions.

This week has been about damage control from all his directly paid minions,

to try and get the genie of truth back in the bottle; no chance,

it seems to be flitting away from him like smoke in a storm.

Edited May 24, 2012 by animatic

[phiphidon]

" the torn of the reds" ???

Thai courts recently sentenced red shirt k. Bandit to 38 years for multiple offences including firing an RPG ar a revered temple. Are you saying this is not justified by the related Thai laws?

Arisman is likely to be found guilty of incitement/conspiracy to commit arson which saw 30 buildings destroyed. He is likely to receive a similar sentence IMHO. Do you think this would not be justified under Thai law?

To save time, could you indicate why you consider the courts corrupt?

Just possibly because he has been jailed and bailed by the courts 4 times now. Having called for a coup in January this year, he is currently out on bail after being handed a twenty year sentence..........................

(Reuters) - A firebrand media mogul and leader of Thailand's royalist "yellow shirts" protest movement was jailed on Tuesday for 20 years for securities fraud, but immediately bailed on appeal.

The Criminal Court sentenced Sondhi Limthongkul, who led protests in 2005, 2006 and 2008 that undermined two elected governments led or backed by ousted former premier Thaksin Shinawatra, to a total of 85 years in prison, but commuted the term twice to 20 years.

He pleaded guilty to signing false documents that allowed his Manager Media Group to seek bank loans amounting to 1.1 billion baht but was freed on bail pending an appeal against the sentence.

http://in.reuters.co...E81R0EQ20120228

Do you notice the difference in the handling of his case/s?

Thaksin got 2 years?

Firing an RPG at a temple is half as bad as fraud?

Well if you were treating cases alike regardless of sentences (which after all are down to the courts and the sentencing guidelines) I would be concentrating on the number of times being found guilty and then bailed each time, but that's just me.

If you're a connected yellow shirt leader it appears to be 4 Strikes and you're still out (of jail).

[animatic]

Sondhi Limthongkul ? Still not in jail for defrauding investors and tax authorities? How come that a man with his background can be quoted. He is the first that will feel the torn of the reds and any other who see that the Thai courts are corrupted to the bone.

" the torn of the reds" ???

Thai courts recently sentenced red shirt k. Bandit to 38 years for multiple offences including firing an RPG ar a revered temple. Are you saying this is not justified by the related Thai laws?

Arisman is likely to be found guilty of incitement/conspiracy to commit arson which saw 30 buildings destroyed. He is likely to receive a similar sentence IMHO. Do you think this would not be justified under Thai law?

To save time, could you indicate why you consider the courts corrupt?

Because they don't act when he wants them to and they don't give the decisions he wants.

Truth of the matter is he wants them to be corrupt under his guidance,

Precisely. He can't stand anyone that doesn't kow tow to his status and power.

That is the crux of his issues with Prem, he demands Prem bow to him and Prem only weis LOWER.

[phiphidon]

Sonthi was also shot at 84 times. Does this count as punishment, or simply a random occurence?

Are you implying the courts did it?

[phiphidon]

What's to see? The Thai law allows bail pending appeal, and rich people have enough money to post it. I certainly don't think that it should be allowed after someone is found guilty of violence offences.

But I much prefer to see convicted criminals given bail than to have them avoid court because Yingluk's lackey Tharit fails to investigate, recommends dropping of high-profile cases, or simply changes the definition of the offence.

4 Times?

[orientalist]

"Should reconciliation happen, I will have an opportunity to serve my fellow Thai citizens," he said.

Isn't this the guy who said he had washed his hands of politics a few years ago?

[Moruya]

What's to see? The Thai law allows bail pending appeal, and rich people have enough money to post it. I certainly don't think that it should be allowed after someone is found guilty of violence offences.

But I much prefer to see convicted criminals given bail than to have them avoid court because Yingluk's lackey Tharit fails to investigate, recommends dropping of high-profile cases, or simply changes the definition of the offence.

4 Times?

Do you believe that the whole legal system should be independent and should apply the law equally to all?

I do. Reds, Yellows commen theives, ex-prime ministers the whole lot.

However when Thaksin sets an example by runnning away things decay. Whilst I have absolutely no time for Sondhi, at least he stayed to face the music.

[phiphidon]

And as the police themselves said more than likely for export. No links to the red shirts ever found.

Thai police think the illegally made M79 grenade launcher parts seized in Ayutthaya on 13 March and more in the neighboring Samut Prakan on the next day are for the United Wa State Army (UWSA) that is currently at loggerheads with Burma’s ruling military junta over the Border Guard Force (BGF) deal, according to the news community in Bangkok.

The factory owner Cherdyod Jirawattanarak had reportedly admitted that he had already delivered over 1,000 of the parts to the arms traffickers. Police found 600 completed parts for the M79 grenade launchers. Chief of Police Region #1 Krissada Pankongchuen said his investigators had yet to conclude that the seizures were linked to the red shirt demonstrations that began on 13 March, the same day the seizure was made.

“But the huge quantity of the seizure indicates that they are likely to be more for export than for internal use,” a newsman quoted the police as saying.

Demand for arms and ammo have been on the rise since tensions between the Burma Army and the UWSA were on the rise since last year.

Though they are more easily purchased in China, with which the Wa share a common border, transporting them to the Thai-Burma border through several checkpoints set up by the Burma Army has been an unsolvable problem, according to Wa sources.

http://www.shanland....bels&Itemid=301

"Thai police think.........." Quite possibly they had a re-think when M-79 grenades started flying around Bangkok.

"....investigators had yet to conclude...." In your mind does that mean there is no link?

Even if there is NO link to this batch, how does it alter the basic fact that they WERE used by the redshirts? What are you trying to prove?

I'm not trying to prove anything .As usual you go off frothing because I had the temerity to suggest there was another side to the "story" that was being pushed - i.e 600 M79's, it must be the reds. You need to reign your neck in a bit and think before posting.

To date we have one red/black shirt (depending whether you regard Sae Daengs right hand man a red shirt or a black shirt) in prison for 35 years having being found guilty of numerous M79 attacks. Whether it was the red shirts or black shirts or somebody else responsible for the rest is not known, unless of course you evidence to the contrary.

[Buchholz]

(Reuters) - A firebrand media mogul and leader of Thailand's royalist "yellow shirts" protest movement was jailed on Tuesday for 20 years for securities fraud, but immediately bailed on appeal.

Do you notice the difference in the handling of his case/s?

Thaksin got 2 years?

Firing an RPG at a temple is half as bad as fraud?

Even on the bail issue, Potjaman stayed on bail for three years AFTER being convicted. Looks like Sondhi has about 2.7 more years to go to catch up with her.

Komnam Poh is another example of being bailed AFTER conviction, for per-meditated murder no less. Years and years later, he hasn't been seen since.

It's a commonly-encountered way of doing things here and Sondhi's three months is miniscule to many others.

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Edited May 24, 2012 by Buchholz

[OzMick]

And as the police themselves said more than likely for export. No links to the red shirts ever found.

Thai police think the illegally made M79 grenade launcher parts seized in Ayutthaya on 13 March and more in the neighboring Samut Prakan on the next day are for the United Wa State Army (UWSA) that is currently at loggerheads with Burma’s ruling military junta over the Border Guard Force (BGF) deal, according to the news community in Bangkok.

The factory owner Cherdyod Jirawattanarak had reportedly admitted that he had already delivered over 1,000 of the parts to the arms traffickers. Police found 600 completed parts for the M79 grenade launchers. Chief of Police Region #1 Krissada Pankongchuen said his investigators had yet to conclude that the seizures were linked to the red shirt demonstrations that began on 13 March, the same day the seizure was made.

“But the huge quantity of the seizure indicates that they are likely to be more for export than for internal use,” a newsman quoted the police as saying.

Demand for arms and ammo have been on the rise since tensions between the Burma Army and the UWSA were on the rise since last year.

Though they are more easily purchased in China, with which the Wa share a common border, transporting them to the Thai-Burma border through several checkpoints set up by the Burma Army has been an unsolvable problem, according to Wa sources.

http://www.shanland....bels&Itemid=301

"Thai police think.........." Quite possibly they had a re-think when M-79 grenades started flying around Bangkok.

"....investigators had yet to conclude...." In your mind does that mean there is no link?

Even if there is NO link to this batch, how does it alter the basic fact that they WERE used by the redshirts? What are you trying to prove?

I'm not trying to prove anything .As usual you go off frothing because I had the temerity to suggest there was another side to the "story" that was being pushed - i.e 600 M79's, it must be the reds. You need to reign your neck in a bit and think before posting.

To date we have one red/black shirt (depending whether you regard Sae Daengs right hand man a red shirt or a black shirt) in prison for 35 years having being found guilty of numerous M79 attacks. Whether it was the red shirts or black shirts or somebody else responsible for the rest is not known, unless of course you evidence to the contrary.

AND k. Bandit for 38 years for firing an RPG. That is SO FAR. How many terrorists do we need convicted before you admit this was NOT a peaceful protest but a camouflaged coup attempt which even if it failed, would produce enough bodies to be blamed on the government?

I'll reign in my neck when you pull your head out of your <snip>

[Buchholz]

"Should reconciliation happen, I will have an opportunity to serve my fellow Thai citizens," he said.

Isn't this the guy who said he had washed his hands of politics a few years ago?

Over six years ago...

also, there's this

Thaksin Retires; Yet Again

October 18, 2011

http://2bangkok.com/...-yet-again.html

Thaksin claiming he is retiring, quitting politics, or taking a political break is nothing new. It has been done many times before; always as a political pretext. It is likely the latest announcement is part of the buildup to the push for a pardon for Thaksin and his return. Similar claims of quitting politics were made for these same reasons before he returned the first time in 2008.

Considering the time and money spent on the 2009 and 2010 uprisings and the subsequent election that ran on Thaksin's name and reputation, Thaksin can feel vindicated at this point and should expect to have what he wants on his terms.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It goes on from there to detail specifics of the times he quit in 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, etc.

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Edited May 24, 2012 by Buchholz

[phiphidon]

The positive side of k. Thaksin having jumped bail and 'voluntarily' decided on a self-exile in luxury (aka criminal on the run) is that it makes attempts to be compared with pro-democracy figures like Aung San Suu Kyi and Nelson Mandela more ludicrous with a touch of "delusions of grandeur'

No doubt that will be painfully obvious next week when Aung San Suu Kyi makes her first trip outside of Myanmar in 24 years.

She will be coming here to Bangkok to attend the World Economic Forum on East Asia.

.

Perhaps Appointed Senator and PAD Affiliate, Prasong Nurak, can ask Aung San Suu Kyi to her face who had paid her money, after her comments regarding the fact that a legitimate government was overthrown by a military coup (Cambodias Hun Sen had compared Thaksins "fate" at the hand of the military similar to Aung San Suu Kyi - this has now evolved to Thaksin saying he was the same as Suu Kyi as perpetuated by rubl in his post)

AFP has a quote from NLD spokesman Nyan Win who states that after meeting Suu on Saturday, she specifically referred to the situation in Thailand.

Key excerpt:

“A new government coming to power under a constitution drawn up by the military will never be stable,” he cited her as saying. “We do not need to see very far. We just see Thailand,” she said.

“Thaksin was an elected person. The military seized the power from an elected person. The constitution was drawn up by the military,” she said.

“After that, what happened with the first (government)? It was not stable,” she said of the short-lived administration that followed the coup. “This was a result of the constitution being written by the military.”

http://asiancorrespo...ment-spokesman/

Unhappy with Aung San Su Kyi’s criticism of Thailand’s constitution and politics, PAD-affiliated senator Prasong Nurak has urged the government to track her financial records to find whether she has received money and from whom.

During a Senate meeting on 26 April, Prasong said that Aung San Su Kyi’s remarks had damaged Thailand’s reputation in the eyes of the international community, likening her to a drowning person making noises in teaching others to swim.

‘I’m so disappointed, as Aung San Su Kyi should have had a better understanding about Thailand. I’m asking [the government] to try to track her financial records to find out who she has received money from.’

http://www.prachatai...glish/node/1771

As the author pointed out

"Just to make this clear, he is an appointed senator who profited from the new 2007 constitution drafted by the military and thus proving Suu Kyi’s point in the first place."

[Crushdepth]

"If you don't want to reconcile, I don't mind living abroad. But you should think who would benefit from the continuing fight because only arms merchants will become rich."

What a pig. And lest we forget, the police seized 600 M79 grenade launchers from an illicit assembly line in March 2010. I wonder who commissioned that?

From memory only, weren't they parts for M-79 launchers rather than the whole unit?

600 completed grenade launchers, plus another '10,000 parts' to make them, whatever that means, from a bust in Samut Prakan. There was also a second bust in Ayuttaya.

[phiphidon]

What's to see? The Thai law allows bail pending appeal, and rich people have enough money to post it. I certainly don't think that it should be allowed after someone is found guilty of violence offences.

But I much prefer to see convicted criminals given bail than to have them avoid court because Yingluk's lackey Tharit fails to investigate, recommends dropping of high-profile cases, or simply changes the definition of the offence.

4 Times?

Do you believe that the whole legal system should be independent and should apply the law equally to all?

I do. Reds, Yellows commen theives, ex-prime ministers the whole lot.

However when Thaksin sets an example by runnning away things decay. Whilst I have absolutely no time for Sondhi, at least he stayed to face the music.

To your first question, Yes. Whether it is or not is a whole other question. Why would Sondhi run away - He's one of the all time Teflon Don's, nothing to fear.

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(Reuters) - A firebrand media mogul and leader of Thailand's royalist "yellow shirts" protest movement was jailed on Tuesday for 20 years for securities fraud, but immediately bailed on appeal.

Do you notice the difference in the handling of his case/s?

Thaksin got 2 years?

Firing an RPG at a temple is half as bad as fraud?

Even on the bail issue, Potjaman stayed on bail for three years AFTER being convicted. Looks like Sondhi has about 2.7 more years to go to catch up with her.

Komnam Poh is another example of being bailed AFTER conviction, for per-meditated murder no less. Years and years later, he hasn't been seen since.

It's a commonly-encountered way of doing things here and Sondhi's three months is miniscule to many others.

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