StefanBBK Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I know there where privious topics on this, but nothing that focusses on automatic transmissions, I belive. My wife drives an A/T hilux, which is getting old and unfortunately has a benzine engine. So at some stage we need to look at a replacement. Criteria are Automatic, Smart cab (4 seats, 2 doors) and diesel engine. The best I could find so far was a Isuzu Dmax Z with 2.5 ltr. Engine. The car will be primarily used for business (garden and construction materials). Anybody any insight, ideas or suggestions? Thanks Sent from my GT-P7500 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobi Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 When I was looking to buy a new pick-up a few months ago, I did a though research into all the latest models available in Thailand, and toured all the showrooms. Top of my list were the Isuzu Dmax and the Mitsubishi Triton. They are both have 'new generation' 2.5 Diesel engines and are both rated very highly. I went for the Mitsu as it was cheaper, shorter delivery time, (about 2weeks or less), and it looks really nifty. I have now had it for nearly 3 months and am absolutely delighted with it. It drives like a dream, is very comfortable and quiet and fuel consumption is excellent. The only downside is that it may not hold its value as well as a DMAX, although they are selling like hot cakes now, so who knows? Anyway, if you are planning to keep it for many years, then it hardly matters. That's my 2 penneth.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I think this is better suited in the motoring forum, moving topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) I ordered a Dmax 2.5 AT, but after some delivery issues also visited the Mazda showroom. On the day Isuzu called they would ship the truck to me I decided not to use that offer and in stead go for the Mazda. About the same price for the 2.2 AT, but more car for the money IMO. Edited May 29, 2012 by stevenl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tafia Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 We have the Mitsubishi Triton 2.5 Diesel, had over 2yrs now and no problems whatsoever. Very happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcat Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I never see 2dr diesel pick up with AT..??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 When I was looking to buy a new pick-up a few months ago, I did a though research into all the latest models available in Thailand, and toured all the showrooms. Top of my list were the Isuzu Dmax and the Mitsubishi Triton. They are both have 'new generation' 2.5 Diesel engines and are both rated very highly. I went for the Mitsu as it was cheaper, shorter delivery time, (about 2weeks or less), and it looks really nifty. I have now had it for nearly 3 months and am absolutely delighted with it. It drives like a dream, is very comfortable and quiet and fuel consumption is excellent. The only downside is that it may not hold its value as well as a DMAX, although they are selling like hot cakes now, so who knows? Anyway, if you are planning to keep it for many years, then it hardly matters. That's my 2 penneth.... And it's a beautiful truck! Rides great and has incredible acceleration. Very nice choice!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobi Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I never see 2dr diesel pick up with AT..??!! You could be correct. My mistake, I assumed the Op was looking for a double cab, as he stated AT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) I never see 2dr diesel pick up with AT..??!! You're right, the OP threw me of with '4 seats 2 doors'. At the OP: the 2 door pickups will have 4 seats, but are officially only licensed for 2 persons. So also insurance will be limited and not cover 4 seats/persons. Edited May 29, 2012 by stevenl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I never see 2dr diesel pick up with AT..??!! You're right, the OP threw me of with '4 seats 2 doors'. At the OP: the 2 door pickups will have 4 seats, but are officially only licensed for 2 persons. So also insurance will be limited and not cover 4 seats/persons. Correct. OP, the benzine Toyota is a slug, the diesel is a very different ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Top of my list were the Isuzu Dmax and the ................. They are both have 'new generation' 2.5 Diesel engines and are both rated very highly. Errr new generation as in the old motor carried over ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophon Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I never see 2dr diesel pick up with AT..??!! You're right, the OP threw me of with '4 seats 2 doors'. At the OP: the 2 door pickups will have 4 seats, but are officially only licensed for 2 persons. So also insurance will be limited and not cover 4 seats/persons. Correct. OP, the benzine Toyota is a slug, the diesel is a very different ride. Actually, I believe they are licensed for three people. But yes, officially you are not allowed to carry people on the back "seats" Sophon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanBBK Posted May 29, 2012 Author Share Posted May 29, 2012 I never see 2dr diesel pick up with AT..??!! You're right, the OP threw me of with '4 seats 2 doors'. At the OP: the 2 door pickups will have 4 seats, but are officially only licensed for 2 persons. So also insurance will be limited and not cover 4 seats/persons. Interesting indeed. I was sure that the wife's current 2 door, smart cab, is insured/liscensed for up to 4 people inside. Why would they have the seats and back rests if you were not supposed to have anybody sitting on it? Beats me. Sent from my GT-P7500 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I never see 2dr diesel pick up with AT..??!! You're right, the OP threw me of with '4 seats 2 doors'. At the OP: the 2 door pickups will have 4 seats, but are officially only licensed for 2 persons. So also insurance will be limited and not cover 4 seats/persons. Interesting indeed. I was sure that the wife's current 2 door, smart cab, is insured/liscensed for up to 4 people inside. Why would they have the seats and back rests if you were not supposed to have anybody sitting on it? Beats me. Sent from my GT-P7500 using Thaivisa Connect App Not seats in the back. Just space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobi Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Top of my list were the Isuzu Dmax and the ................. They are both have 'new generation' 2.5 Diesel engines and are both rated very highly. Errr new generation as in the old motor carried over ? don't think so... do your research - its Toyota that has the old tarted up crap and charges through the nose for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Top of my list were the Isuzu Dmax and the ................. They are both have 'new generation' 2.5 Diesel engines and are both rated very highly. Errr new generation as in the old motor carried over ? don't think so... do your research - its Toyota that has the old tarted up crap and charges through the nose for it... Hmmmmm, look at the Toyota low RPM torque figures, truck work figures, NOT high RPM motorway torque figures. Toyota wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcat Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Where is MRO...he will straiten you out on this subject.. ...Toyota really needs an upgrade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Top of my list were the Isuzu Dmax and the ................. They are both have 'new generation' 2.5 Diesel engines and are both rated very highly. Errr new generation as in the old motor carried over ? don't think so... do your research - its Toyota that has the old tarted up crap and charges through the nose for it... So are you saying the New Generation D-Max also got a new engine, best you be doing some research mate because it is using the engine from the outgoing model only difference being is that it has had a bit of a tune up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phutoie2 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) Top of my list were the Isuzu Dmax and the ................. They are both have 'new generation' 2.5 Diesel engines and are both rated very highly. Errr new generation as in the old motor carried over ? don't think so... do your research - its Toyota that has the old tarted up crap and charges through the nose for it... So are you saying the New Generation D-Max also got a new engine, best you be doing some research mate because it is using the engine from the outgoing model only difference being is that it has had a bit of a tune up. Didn't Isuzu put the VGS turbo from the 3L model on it?, that would make a difference to performance. Isuzu engine link:http://www.allnewisuzud-max.com/web/main.html Edited May 30, 2012 by phutoie2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phutoie2 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I never see 2dr diesel pick up with AT..??!! You're right, the OP threw me of with '4 seats 2 doors'. At the OP: the 2 door pickups will have 4 seats, but are officially only licensed for 2 persons. So also insurance will be limited and not cover 4 seats/persons. Interesting indeed. I was sure that the wife's current 2 door, smart cab, is insured/liscensed for up to 4 people inside. Why would they have the seats and back rests if you were not supposed to have anybody sitting on it? Beats me. Sent from my GT-P7500 using Thaivisa Connect App No seat belts fitted!, when Toyota brought out the smart cab with the small rear access doors they wanted to run an advertising campaign showing passengers in the rear, the Transport ministry prevented them. Two door trucks taxed as commercial vehicles, not supposed to carry passengers in rear or in the back of truck - but who takes notice of that!. Road tax fpr the two doors is much lower, about 1050 Baht. Just had a renewal for road tax on my double cab 3L from the finance company, this year - 7,128 Baht, quite a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I never see 2dr diesel pick up with AT..??!! You're right, the OP threw me of with '4 seats 2 doors'. At the OP: the 2 door pickups will have 4 seats, but are officially only licensed for 2 persons. So also insurance will be limited and not cover 4 seats/persons. Interesting indeed. I was sure that the wife's current 2 door, smart cab, is insured/liscensed for up to 4 people inside. Why would they have the seats and back rests if you were not supposed to have anybody sitting on it? Beats me. Sent from my GT-P7500 using Thaivisa Connect App No, insured (and so I presume licensed as well) for 3 people. Also take into account that there will be no seat belts in the back. Not to put you of, simply giving the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I know sod all about pick-ups but I've read quite a few threads on the subject and now almost consider myself expert! Here's some of the things I've picked up, no play on words intended: The D-Max has the old engine, it's not been upgraded in about ten years but supposedly it will be next year: The safety rating (Australia) of the D-Max and Toyota pickups is poor, the Mazda BT50 or Ford Ranger (same vehicle really) are excellent, both made in the PI. Value for money and safety features winners are the Ranger and the BT50. Over and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrel Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I am looking for an almost identical spec vehicle as the OP: smaller diesel engine, AT, 2WD, 2 door, "extra" cab. Some manufacturers (ie Toyota) offer nothing in this range and the others offer little choice. I am leaning more and more towards the Nissan Navara which ticks all my boxes and is reasonably priced compared to the others. I may actually end up getting the 4-door version for various reasons and the extra cost is not as much as with some other brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I think the problem is in finding the AT with anything under 3.0, not easy. If you wanted to be really sexy you could go with the AT and 4WD which I never knew existed, it still means a 3.0 engine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodentwarrior Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I am just about to buy a Fortuna 4x2 Gas A/T with a 2.7 litre petrol engine. Should I really go for the diesel engined version? I wont be taking it off-road much. I looked at Isuzu but was put off by the interior - acres of plastic and cheap looking. Please advise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) I am just about to buy a Fortuna 4x2 Gas A/T with a 2.7 litre petrol engine. Should I really go for the diesel engined version? I wont be taking it off-road much. I looked at Isuzu but was put off by the interior - acres of plastic and cheap looking. Please advise? Significantly cheaper on gas and longer engine life, yes I would go diesel. Actually, I'd go BT50 but that's another story. BTW: the safety rating ont he Fortuner is the same as the Hillux, not very good. Edited May 30, 2012 by chiang mai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albhol Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I know sod all about pick-ups but I've read quite a few threads on the subject and now almost consider myself expert! Here's some of the things I've picked up, no play on words intended: The D-Max has the old engine, it's not been upgraded in about ten years but supposedly it will be next year: The safety rating (Australia) of the D-Max and Toyota pickups is poor, the Mazda BT50 or Ford Ranger (same vehicle really) are excellent, both made in the PI. Value for money and safety features winners are the Ranger and the BT50. Over and out. Guess the D-MAX safety rating does not refer to the current 2012 model, or... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I know sod all about pick-ups but I've read quite a few threads on the subject and now almost consider myself expert! Here's some of the things I've picked up, no play on words intended: The D-Max has the old engine, it's not been upgraded in about ten years but supposedly it will be next year: The safety rating (Australia) of the D-Max and Toyota pickups is poor, the Mazda BT50 or Ford Ranger (same vehicle really) are excellent, both made in the PI. Value for money and safety features winners are the Ranger and the BT50. Over and out. Guess the D-MAX safety rating does not refer to the current 2012 model, or... 2012 models were included, here's the link: http://www.ancap.com.au/results?Search=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I am just about to buy a Fortuna 4x2 Gas A/T with a 2.7 litre petrol engine. Should I really go for the diesel engined version? I wont be taking it off-road much. I looked at Isuzu but was put off by the interior - acres of plastic and cheap looking. Please advise? It's a slug, has 1/3 less torque than the diesel, that is the grunt gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I think You will find that it refers to the D-Max 2008 models ... soem big changes to the design since then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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