I really get a kick out of those here who literally quote Western propaganda points - verbatim - in order to "prove" their Geo-political knowledge as well as person opinions. Sad to see how they have been shaped during their lives. Then they show up on the forum, spew some "FoxNews style" talking point, followed by argumentum ad hominem leveled at anyone questioning the orthodoxy of their skewed religiously-held opinions, and then end their diatribes in some sort of a personal slight that is usually nothing much more than juvenile name calling. It's is just sad to watch. There are people on this forum who study history, and understand how that history segues into current day Geo-politics and the propensity of man to wage endless - unnecessary - wars which create nothing but misery and suffering for the civilian masses who literally just want to live their lives in peace. Well, my respect for you out there who tread this road less traveled, but do so knowledgeably. Kudos.