Popular Post terrythai Posted June 25, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2012 What a waste of life, no need whatsover to use a knife on a defenceless woman. And give the police a break for christs sake, they most probably have the right men, some of you are just morons. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferangled Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Phuket=turning into Pattaya Pattaya more peacfull, and no tuk tuk and taxi mafia! Why do we consistently get people trying to turn this into a regional issue? To the extent that we have members joining up purely to post pro-Pattaya and anti-Phuket BS, get a grip. Phuket's resorts are many and varied but unfortunately those closest to Patong are getting infected by proximity. Kata and Karon used to be pleasant areas with a family vibe but being just downwind of the island's den of inequity seems to be taking quite a toll on them and the change over the last few years is quite tangible. When considering Phuket, only Patong can be accurately compared to Pattaya, as both attract the same low lives and miscreants both local and foreign, the big difference being Patong is just one area of Phuket, an island that holds much more appeal than just for the travelling sex pest... IMHO the establishment's lack of motivation to clampdown on the blight on Phuket that is Patong has led to this uneasy mix of tourist demographics and increasing crime rate. Pattaya doesn't have that problem - it attracts only one demographic, the sex tourist. Glad it looks like those responsible may actually be brought to justice although I'm sure that's of very little comfort to the victim's family and friends. It's about time the powers that be on Phuket start to really clamp down on the HQ for vice in Phuket, Patong, and in doing so show the world that quality tourists are more important to Thailand than those looking for cheap thrills. I just hope these aren't a couple of innocent saps who's family have been well paid to provide the BiB with some favourable headlines and a photo op... Amazing how many of these crimes go unsolved but when it becomes international media fodder that may have a damaging effect on tourism, near instant results... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 ....I look at how this took place and I ask myself....."Is this what humanity has come to?".... .....and do either of those 'creatures' or their ilk, consider themselves 'men' ?......("Man created in the image of God")...... ....God help us all..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytitfull Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I find if someone is charged and then sent to jail it is never reported what happen to the bad guys/girls as what the term of jail is. This i think is in Thai law it not told what happen after the court case,So nobody knows worldwide what the out come is.This sucks.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saanya Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 One report says 2 caught in Chumphon, 1 caught near Bangkok, -what report is true and why would we believe it anyways. This just sounds like the one set of police grabbing anyone they can, so that Bangkok politicians & law enforcement (who just grabbed someone as well) don't have time to show up and start "reforming" the place. Besides, if that grainy video was all they needed to home in on, and then successfully round up the suspects in a country of 80+ million, it makes you wonder, a little, right? Hopefully they catch who *really* did this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post irishken Posted June 25, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2012 <p>This video should be removed from TV and youtube. i'm not sure the family would want he whole world to see there mother,sister or aunt be stabbed in a alley way.its disgusting that TV let this be shown and then delete other minor things.disgusting if you ask me.showing this video can not help catch the killers in anyway %2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nigel1500 Posted June 25, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2012 Actually, there was a very real chance of pulling plates from that video. Our "cheapie" Honeywell recorder does 12 cameras in HD colour. Of course, if I played that video back on a CRT TV, as per the video at the start of this thread" I wouldn't have a chance. But opening a single frame in a PC and zooming in would be a different story. This video is in colour. It is also recording all the time - even when there is no motion. I wouldn't discount the quality of the video based on what WE see here. Police have a variety of methods including other video cameras nearby, partial plates from eyewitnesses, toll booth cameras, etc. There is always someone ready to come forward with a little bit of information. I wouldn't discount the chance of having the right guys here. Nor would I run down the ability of the Royal Thai Police to do their job effectively. They have access to the full gamut of modern policing methods and equipment. Job well done, I say! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel1500 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 <p>This video should be removed from TV and youtube. i'm not sure the family would want he whole world to see there mother,sister or aunt be stabbed in a alley way.its disgusting that TV let this be shown and then delete other minor things.disgusting if you ask me.showing this video can not help catch the killers in anyway %2 I agree. The video is inappropriate for this forum. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmon Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) Phuket=turning into Pattaya Pattaya more peacfull, and no tuk tuk and taxi mafia! When considering Phuket, only Patong can be accurately compared to Pattaya, as both attract the same low lives and miscreants both local and foreign, the big difference being Patong is just one area of Phuket, an island that holds much more appeal than just for the travelling sex pest...it now attracts many budget tourists from all over the world that want a Thailand beach vacation that may not want to pay the more expensive costs of the Phuket area. IMHO the establishment's lack of motivation to clampdown on the blight on Phuket that is Patong has led to this uneasy mix of tourist demographics and increasing crime rate. Pattaya doesn't have that problem - it attracts only one demographic, the sex tourist. does not sound like you have been to Pattaya lately, it is full of Russian couples many with their children, also many Chinese and other Asian tour groups. But the "sex tourist" is becoming the minority, I know because I live here, "It attracts only one demographic, the sex tourist and Sex Pests" wow, very judgmental and just wrong... Edited June 25, 2012 by Rainmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdang Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) a victim is never a victim "only" once... their pictures are published all over the press, their lives, too... whatever they did wrong, will be pulled out of the drawer... often, they have to justify, why they did become the victim... what was he/she doing in the park that late? maybe s/he was drunk? they are kept for hours at the crime scene - naked in their blood.. then they get turned inside out, autopsied, every single organ taken out... then the killer lies about the victim "she wanted it"... etc etc... and then, the body bag gets zipped open, so that everyone can have a look and the press take pictures... Edited June 25, 2012 by dingdang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 should not all the men involved be charged for murder as they do in de US ? if one commits a crime all the other culprits gets the same sentense for participating??? i hope mr Embassador will also walk alone or with 1 other person, at night, showing gold necklace, big expensive watch, so maybe he can feel how it is to be robbed or stabbed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKBrit Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Looked at the video and having worked as a cameraman about 30 years I noticed that CCTV video's are steady and this looks like a phone or other camera which means someone saw the actual killing and there may be more than the video we see. I am not sure but can this be the reason we not see all footage because what we not see may have let to the arrest and to stories that the police knew names already. I think if you look a bit closer, this is a recording of a monitor. That's why it's shakey. The monitor is steady but the cameraman recording it hasn't got a steady hand. See the monitor's frame at 0:07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PingManDan Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I would hope that these two suspects are the actual culprits, and not some country bumpkins the police have persuaded to take the fall, in return for a large donation to their families. The police are under incredible pressure for results, so I guess anything is feasible. My thoughts exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sportsman69 Posted June 25, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2012 <p>This video should be removed from TV and youtube. i'm not sure the family would want he whole world to see there mother,sister or aunt be stabbed in a alley way.its disgusting that TV let this be shown and then delete other minor things.disgusting if you ask me.showing this video can not help catch the killers in anyway %2 I agree. The video is inappropriate for this forum. Totally agree 100%. I replied to an earlier question as to who put it up. A. the editor of a news source we cannot mention. Nuff said. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Why isn't this sort of vigilance deemed normal policing as it is elsewhere? Tourists are stabbed far to frequently for my liking but the authorities do nothing unless or until there's an outcry from abroad. Burma has just opened it's doors.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazydrummerpauly Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Death penalty, chai mai? Sent from my i Phone 4S using Thaivisa Connect App If they gave all the people who commit murder the death penalty the the population would fall 25% overnight what??????????????? My thought exactly. Drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I find if someone is charged and then sent to jail it is never reported what happen to the bad guys/girls as what the term of jail is. This i think is in Thai law it not told what happen after the court case,So nobody knows worldwide what the out come is.This sucks.......... I think in this instance TAT will want the world, especially Australia to know that they were convicted and sentence to XXX, for the sake of tourism and Thailands image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazydrummerpauly Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 <p>This video should be removed from TV and youtube. i'm not sure the family would want he whole world to see there mother,sister or aunt be stabbed in a alley way.its disgusting that TV let this be shown and then delete other minor things.disgusting if you ask me.showing this video can not help catch the killers in anyway %2 I agree. The video is inappropriate for this forum. Totally agree 100%. I replied to an earlier question as to who put it up. A. the editor of a news source we cannot mention. Nuff said. Everyone does need to ask : what human benefit comes from watching the video ? And does anyone care about the feeling of the grieving relatives ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moskito Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Death penalty! way to easy... let them work or like the other member said, Bkk Hilton for the rest of their lives.... Death penalty is third world country style, like China, USA or Myanmar still do....and I understand it at least for Chinas masses......It will change nothing...or has it in the USA changed anything? The only thing it changes is it would empty jails (: ....bad luck for the private prison system and the moneymachines in some countries over seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdmtdm Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Why, prithee, would someone be videoiing an empty street quite by chance? The robbery seems very inept and badly rehearsed to me. CCTV where are u from mars ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 It looks like a hand held camera, most likely a phone, was used to film the CCTV playback from a monitor... Correct!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotaplonker Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Phuket=turning into Pattaya Pattaya more peacfull, and no tuk tuk and taxi mafia! Why do we consistently get people trying to turn this into a regional issue? To the extent that we have members joining up purely to post pro-Pattaya and anti-Phuket BS, get a grip. Phuket's resorts are many and varied but unfortunately those closest to Patong are getting infected by proximity. Kata and Karon used to be pleasant areas with a family vibe but being just downwind of the island's den of inequity seems to be taking quite a toll on them and the change over the last few years is quite tangible. When considering Phuket, only Patong can be accurately compared to Pattaya, as both attract the same low lives and miscreants both local and foreign, the big difference being Patong is just one area of Phuket, an island that holds much more appeal than just for the travelling sex pest... IMHO the establishment's lack of motivation to clampdown on the blight on Phuket that is Patong has led to this uneasy mix of tourist demographics and increasing crime rate. Pattaya doesn't have that problem - it attracts only one demographic, the sex tourist. Glad it looks like those responsible may actually be brought to justice although I'm sure that's of very little comfort to the victim's family and friends. It's about time the powers that be on Phuket start to really clamp down on the HQ for vice in Phuket, Patong, and in doing so show the world that quality tourists are more important to Thailand than those looking for cheap thrills. I just hope these aren't a couple of innocent saps who's family have been well paid to provide the BiB with some favourable headlines and a photo op... and dry Amazing how many of these crimes go unsolved but when it becomes international media fodder that may have a damaging effect on tourism, near instant results... errrr but would not millions of tourists who want 'cheap thrills' then not visit? leaving any number of businesses hi and dry and many thais jobless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how241 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I would hope that these two suspects are the actual culprits, and not some country bumpkins the police have persuaded to take the fall, in return for a large donation to their families. The police are under incredible pressure for results, so I guess anything is feasible. I hope they caught the real killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americaninbangkok Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 If there is no immediate arrest then we're told that it's a cover-up and that nothing more will be heard about it. If there is an arrest then of course the police must have it wrong. If they arrest a farang, then the police are trying to blame someone other than a Thai. If they arrest a Thai, then it has to be some poor unsuspecting country bumpkin. Yes, I think you have captured the state of affairs quite accurately... well done, ol' chap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 <p>This video should be removed from TV and youtube. i'm not sure the family would want he whole world to see there mother,sister or aunt be stabbed in a alley way.its disgusting that TV let this be shown and then delete other minor things.disgusting if you ask me.showing this video can not help catch the killers in anyway %2 I agree. The video is inappropriate for this forum. Totally agree 100%. I replied to an earlier question as to who put it up. A. the editor of a news source we cannot mention. Nuff said. Everyone does need to ask : what human benefit comes from watching the video ? And does anyone care about the feeling of the grieving relatives ? If you don't like it or have a weak stomach for such content then don't watch it. Simple. There is a warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 This is a good result but just the tip of the iceberg, hopefully it doesnt end here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americaninbangkok Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I replied to an earlier question as to who put it up. A. the editor of a news source we cannot mention. Nuff said. Only thing worse than Thai investigative police work is Thai investigative journalism... where facts are reduced to politicized opinions, opinions are reported as substantiated facts, and data is whatever numbers the reporter feels like putting in the article without identifying the source. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETDCAT Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Don't forget there is a surviving witness to this crime. Perhaps She can confirm the identify of those accused . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Thai Police can amaze me..Excellent Job~~( if there found guilty of course)...They can often get their man especially if some pressure is put on them.... Perhaps under intense pressure all they did was hand in "business associates" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americaninbangkok Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 If you don't like it or have a weak stomach for such content then don't watch it. Simple. There is a warning. Yes... and then there are those other things called good taste, decency, respect, humanity and class. Good journalism demands asking: will printing gruesome details or showing graphic photos/video somehow benefit the story and the readers' understanding? If the answer is "no", then you delete it out of respect for the grieving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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