Jingthing Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) I do not like nor support T. but do get a little peeved at continual US bashers when it seems this guy was a democratically elected president and still supported by an apparent majority of Thais. Take your misplaced anger out where it belongs and get a life while your at it. Democratically elected president? Good one. Edited August 6, 2012 by Jingthing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I see Thaksin more in line with a left wing "revolutionary" populist movement centered on a charismatic super leader, a la Chavez's Venezuela. Such movements are cloaked in a patina of democracy rhetoric but deep down are fundamentally anti-democratic. I agree, ol' Hugo is a leftist Mussolini. He is waiting for Fidel to die, intending to take up the mantel of leader of the People's Revolution in the developing world. But it's really only about him. T's skill is that he understands what people will do for money. His movement was like something out of The Magic Christian. Hugo has an understanding of this as well, just ask the vermin running Argentina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckarooBanzai Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I do not like nor support T. but do get a little peeved at continual US bashers when it seems this guy was a democratically elected president and still supported by an apparent majority of Thais. Take your misplaced anger out where it belongs and get a life while your at it. Democratically elected president? Good one. Please enlighten me. How did he originally take the leader ship roll. Graft and corruption does not hold weight as that is practiced by everyone.Good one Jingthing on trying to add diversion to the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affen02 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) I cant find Taksin on Interpools wanted list, if i am right it means that the thais have not put an official warrant for his arrest. I think the US look at his situation as political not criminal, but lets see what happens. Edited August 6, 2012 by metisdead : Bold removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 The US likes to force FCPA down everyone's throat. Plays by a different set of rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckarooBanzai Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 The US likes to force FCPA down everyone's throat. Plays by a different set of rules. Another basher. The [FCPA] Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. "Plays by a different set of rules." You show me where the rules dictate one cannot fight corruption! Is this a bad thing? Only if you are comfortable with such things! Also show me where the internal populace of the US does not fight against this as well within the US government. People who support corruption are a travesty! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) I'm sure things will be a lot better after China takes over as the world's policeman... Can't be any worse! Or there again.... Edited August 6, 2012 by Baerboxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 What country doesn't bend the rules to serve its own purpose? Yours? Sweet dreams.... True, but the world's policeman does have a tendency to push its views onto others, and then show a clear disdain for the views of others when it breaks its own rules. Seems to be the case "do as we say, not as we do". Of course others "bend" the rules, but they don't pretend to be the world's bastion of morality and good ethics. The US has a wonderful constitution - if only they lived up to it! Classic example of politics being above the law - something many posters love to bash Thailand for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckarooBanzai Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I'm sure things will be a lot better after China takes over as the world's policeman... Can't be any worse! You are absolutely correct. The foremost colonial power in the present day world should take over everything. The Spratly Islands and all the other shoals, etc. etc. are obviously China's property as they are located 220 feet off Viet Nam and the coast of the Philippines. I notice how the Chinese are quickly posting on google earth with their ownership claims. You are a great judge of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckarooBanzai Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Do you happen to remember the assassination attempts? I will not support a corrupt T. administration nor will I support political assassination. Why in a Buddhist country is there not a middle road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckarooBanzai Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 The US likes to force FCPA down everyone's throat. Plays by a different set of rules. Another basher. The [FCPA] Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. "Plays by a different set of rules." You show me where the rules dictate one cannot fight corruption! Is this a bad thing? Only if you are comfortable with such things! Also show me where the internal populace of the US does not fight against this as well within the US government. People who support corruption are a travesty! Declaring me as a "basher" based on one post is ignorance. US registered companies operating overseas are expected to comply to US rules. Fair enough. On the one hand here you have the US seeking the extradition of the former TAT head for corruption and at the same time granting a visa to Thaksin with a list if crimes as long as your arm. Sorry mate. Hypocrisy. There is a difference between breaking US law directly and the politically tainted activities that have occurred in Thailand regarding T. The man does not have my support but the differences in the establishment of guilt between the two cases is apparent. In my judgement this is not indicative of hypocrisy. One case involves US law and one does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) so is he in times square eating hotdogs with obama yet? maybe the two of them could show their passports and birth certs together while they're at it, to please all the nutters out there. Edited August 7, 2012 by nurofiend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 A large number of off-topic posts have been deleted. This is about the planned visit to the US of Mr. Thaksin. It is not about the coup, assassination attempts, or the Colorado movie theatre shooting. As far as the nonsense about the Constitution, please be aware that getting a visa to the US is not covered in the US constitution. The people being granted visas are not US citizens and the visas are not granted (usually) in the US. The power to grant a visa is discretionary. Continue to post off-topic and suspensions will be given. Now back to the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Money laundering charges seem to the the latest way, some western countries go after those outside their jurisdiction. The ex head or TOT is being pursued via this avenue, by the US. If the US were interested/concerned, they would probably have legal means to pursue Thaksin overseas or await his announced arrival into their waiting arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) I would have thought the US had enough convicted crims without having to import another. Regardless of all else that is what he still is and a crim on the run at that. Edited August 8, 2012 by metisdead : Oversized font resized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 There are stupid convicted "crims" with no money. And there a very smart "crims" with lots of money. Running might be more preferable than jail when you can go first class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine51 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I would have thought the US had enough convicted crims without having to import another. Regardless of all else that is what he still is and a crim on the run at that. Perhaps the FBI or DHS has a plan to arrest him upon arrival? Or is he going to assist the USA in it's financial woes? Hmmmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo the Face Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 A thought in passing....... There is a good possibility of a court decision this week involving the bail situation of the red shirt leaders. Should this decision go against the red shirts, there is the probability of a considerable violent protest erupting. As to Mr. Thaksin being in the US at the time or arriving shortly after, would him being in the US at the time be an advantage or disadvantage to his cause and goals. He would have certain access to very strong and heavyweight media sources. He may be in a 'see I told you so ' situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 The US likes to force FCPA down everyone's throat. Plays by a different set of rules. Another basher. The [FCPA] Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. "Plays by a different set of rules." You show me where the rules dictate one cannot fight corruption! Is this a bad thing? Only if you are comfortable with such things! Also show me where the internal populace of the US does not fight against this as well within the US government. People who support corruption are a travesty! Declaring me as a "basher" based on one post is ignorance. US registered companies operating overseas are expected to comply to US rules. Fair enough. On the one hand here you have the US seeking the extradition of the former TAT head for corruption and at the same time granting a visa to Thaksin with a list if crimes as long as your arm. Sorry mate. Hypocrisy. There is a difference between breaking US law directly and the politically tainted activities that have occurred in Thailand regarding T. The man does not have my support but the differences in the establishment of guilt between the two cases is apparent. In my judgement this is not indicative of hypocrisy. One case involves US law and one does not. So where does Miss Nalina of Mugabe fame sit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Thaksin gets ready for two-week US visit.. Noppadon said, adding that his boss was currently in Moscow, but would fly to the United Kingdom today before taking a flight to the US during or after the weekend. Is he in the US yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Thaksin gets ready for two-week US visit.. Noppadon said, adding that his boss was currently in Moscow, but would fly to the United Kingdom today before taking a flight to the US during or after the weekend. Is he in the US yet? No offence, wrong question methinks. As the quote is from the 3rd of this month, the question should first be "did k. Thaksin already fly to the UK ?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiOats Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Yea he's in the US. Thaksin gets ready for two-week US visit.. Noppadon said, adding that his boss was currently in Moscow, but would fly to the United Kingdom today before taking a flight to the US during or after the weekend. Is he in the US yet? Yea he's in the U.S, NY to be exact . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Yea he's in the US. Thaksin gets ready for two-week US visit.. Noppadon said, adding that his boss was currently in Moscow, but would fly to the United Kingdom today before taking a flight to the US during or after the weekend. Is he in the US yet? Yea he's in the U.S, NY to be exact . http://www.facebook....&type=1 ... and it's NOT in the news!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) Poster for his appearance at a Thai restaurant in L.A. scheduled for this Sunday. Thaksin is due to appear at this rather tacky place in Thailand's 78th province. . Edited August 8, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiOats Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Yea he's in the US. Thaksin gets ready for two-week US visit.. Noppadon said, adding that his boss was currently in Moscow, but would fly to the United Kingdom today before taking a flight to the US during or after the weekend. Is he in the US yet? Yea he's in the U.S, NY to be exact . http://www.facebook....&type=1 ... and it's NOT in the news!?!?!?! No, but in case you're doubting. Here's another photo and they are both from a friend's facebook page living in NY. The limo is being escorted by police and agents. http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/217649_10151349221694899_257119230_n.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckarooBanzai Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 No, but in case you're doubting. Here's another photo and they are both from a friend's facebook page living in NY. The limo is being escorted by police and agents. http://sphotos-a.xx....257119230_n.jpg Just a small point but "agents" may predispose one to think the the federal government is involved in his visit. That is doubtful to me. These are likely a hired security force. Of course that could be Donald Trump in the limo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Would a 'man of the people' normally use a stretch-limo, in the USA ? Amazing USA ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carra Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 No, but in case you're doubting. Here's another photo and they are both from a friend's facebook page living in NY. The limo is being escorted by police and agents. http://sphotos-a.xx....257119230_n.jpg Just a small point but "agents" may predispose one to think the the federal government is involved in his visit. That is doubtful to me. These are likely a hired security force. Of course that could be Donald Trump in the limo. In the other picture you see Thaksin getting out the limo with the same shops in the background Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Of course he had to take the Limo. In New York your not allowed to ride in the back of a pickup with your luggage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 It is so obvious that it is a trap. Once he landed, the USA will arrest the fugitive, and awaiting jet will zoom him back to U-Tapao airport for the Thai Army. Then a coup will remove her sister, and put Mark back in power. If we could have someone different than Mark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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