Nakhon Panom Residents Try To Prevent Dogs Being Turned Into Dinner

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DOG THEFT GANGS

Nakhon Panom residents try to prevent dogs being turned into dinner

Charnyuth Kotetham

The Nation

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NAKHON PHANOM: -- Residents of a Nakhon Phanom tambon have set up checkpoints at night to prevent gangs involved in dog thefts whose activities have increased over the past few months, Suriya Chaomoo, headman of tambon Kuruku said on Monday.

The dogs were being snatched between 1 and 4am, he said, adding that most of the villagers who had lost their pets to thieves lived near the road.

The gangs generally rode in pickups with two men carrying a stick with a noose. When they saw a dog, they would place the noose round its neck. "They are so accurate, they can catch the dog while the vehicle is still moving," he said.

The tambon is on the way to the province's Tha Lae district, which is known for selling dog meat.

Last year, about 10 dogs were stolen from 10 villages in Tambon Kuruku.

The villagers thus decided to set up four checkpoints around the tambon to block vehicles entering and leaving.

Somsamai Thawan, a village headman of Nong Sai, said he had witnessed first-hand an attempt to steal the dogs last year. "I heard sounds of car engine in the middle of a night, so I waited at my fence. When the driver of the pickup saw me, he accelerated and tried to hit me. I narrowly escaped by running back into the house but a man with a noose on the back of the vehicle tried to hook me. Fortunately I escaped," he said.

Villager Somjai Budwongse, said her house is close to the road, so she kept her two dogs in the house to prevent the gangsters from snatching them.

Pairat Pratumsuwan, Nakhon Phanom's livestock official, said a total of 1,889 dogs are currently in the quarantine station while 1,683 had died and 1,345 had been adopted. Some Bt8.7 million was left in the bank account set up to take care of the dogs.

-- The Nation 2012-08-20

[kimamey]

Well done to them. It seems that these thieves might be violent as well which I suppose is no real surprise considering what they do and what they know will happen to the dogs that they catch.

It's good to see people prepared to make an effort to prevent criminals.

[JetsetBkk]

Anyone have the phone number for this gang? I'd like to invite them to my soi.

[apetley]

Yeah they care so much for their pet dog they let it roam the sois at night.

[dcutman]

Anyone have the phone number for this gang? I'd like to invite them to my soi.

If you get a # please pm me Thanks

[Pseudolus]

Would have thought the Police would have to be the ones to run checkpoints on the roads? Having said that though, they take the cash from the gangs in day time.....and night time is for boozing.

[ratcatcher]

Although I'm a responsible owner of one dog, many of my neighbors have two or more dogs. Most are kept within their walled compound and many start howling sometime at night.

Thailand has a major problem with stray unneutered dogs and although I abhor the cruel way these dogs are transported and then held and slaughtered, what is the alternative.

The fact is that dog meat is eaten by many people in Isaan and Laos, Vietnam & China & Korea.

I have no problem with that, as I am a meat eater too. The transportation of sheep, pigs and cattle is almost as unkind as the dog transport.

It is the cruelty aspect that bothers me. If the animals could be killed humanely, I see no problem.

99% of these dogs are what I loosely refer to as 'soi dogs'. Rarely would you see a purebred dog in their company.

[Pseudolus]

Although I'm a responsible owner of one dog, many of my neighbors have two or more dogs. Most are kept within their walled compound and many start howling sometime at night.

Thailand has a major problem with stray unneutered dogs and although I abhor the cruel way these dogs are transported and then held and slaughtered, what is the alternative.

The fact is that dog meat is eaten by many people in Isaan and Laos, Vietnam & China & Korea.

I have no problem with that, as I am a meat eater too. The transportation of sheep, pigs and cattle is almost as unkind as the dog transport.

It is the cruelty aspect that bothers me. If the animals could be killed humanely, I see no problem.

99% of these dogs are what I loosely refer to as 'soi dogs'. Rarely would you see a purebred dog in their company.

Soi dogs live on average how long - 6yrs? 8 yrs?

Neuter them all - they don't reproduce. The vast majority soi dogs are gone from the street. Then you contend with those dumped at the temples but the kind loving buddhist inhabitants of this country (out of sight, out of mind, have a quick pray and all's forgiven). Neutered and rehomed. Next logical step is licensing and chipping of all dogs. Ban puppy farm and JJ market type of shops selling dogs to stupid little girls. Accountability. This is the real humane alternative. Stop reproduction basically. not as easy or profitable for those who encourage the meat trade though.

[kimamey]

Although I'm a responsible owner of one dog, many of my neighbors have two or more dogs. Most are kept within their walled compound and many start howling sometime at night.

Thailand has a major problem with stray unneutered dogs and although I abhor the cruel way these dogs are transported and then held and slaughtered, what is the alternative.

The fact is that dog meat is eaten by many people in Isaan and Laos, Vietnam & China & Korea.

I have no problem with that, as I am a meat eater too. The transportation of sheep, pigs and cattle is almost as unkind as the dog transport.

It is the cruelty aspect that bothers me. If the animals could be killed humanely, I see no problem.

99% of these dogs are what I loosely refer to as 'soi dogs'. Rarely would you see a purebred dog in their company.

I think you've made some very good points unlike some of the other posts. I assume they either don't know what happens to these dogs in many cases or they don't care. Read this and if you still think these theives are a good idea then I think you have a real problem.

http://www.soidog.org/en/you-can-help-stop-the-dog-meat-trade/

Quite often these are pets of children and it can be distressing for them. Strays need tackling but not like this.

My Thai gf has 8 dogs at the moment and they do run free although it has to be said this is outside the main village and there are many other dogs as well. Neutering would seem to be the obvious answer and I believe there maybe some government money for this. The problem is finding a good vet to do it and transporting the dog to them. I would think it would be difficult to get some of these dogs into a car. At the moment the bitches are given an injection which again I think is paid for by the government but it doesn't always work. The males in particular can tend to wander off as this is the way things are in Thailand. They seem to consider a dogs freedom as important in much the same way as many westerners consider undomesticated animals.

The main problem with ours is that they tend to run down the shared driveway when something goes past and if they feel like it. One bitch has a tendency to chase bikes which is a problem. I have looked at ways of stopping them from running onto the road but I'm back in the UK right now so 'll need to sort it out when I get back. I did get a gate put at our end of the drive but it's open during the day for vehicles so I want to separate the vehicles from the house with a fence of some sort. We also have another house that has access across our land so it all needs a bit of negotiation which I'll try again when I return. One of the issues is I can foresee the likely problems but I'm dealing with Thais and I'm not sure they see things as I do. I will just have to keep trying.

[redroo]

There are just too many stray dogs all over thailand.

And most look like they've been tortured by there owner or someone.

They look in really bad shape, and seriously sick.

For most death is there least of worry,

its the way they get killed is what worries most people.

All of us don't want to see animals suffer.

My thai gf got bitten by one

and had to get many injections in case of rabbies.

INMO round them all up and putt them down humainly.

the dogs i mean.

[Jim walker]

At the end of the day its all about Thai culture greed for money greed even extends to Thai people and children being sold abroad for money I don’t mind the people being sold at least they have a chance to escape the dogs don’t. so well done Nakhon Panom residents to stand up for what you believe in just like the prison officer stood up for what he believed in last week with regards to drug dealers, many foreigners admire and respect you and your efforts still a few decent moral people in Thai society.

The dog meat trade sickens most civilized society in the world

[Jim walker]

Anyone who has a problem with Soi dogs its easy enough to cure just put your hand in your pocket and give a sensible donation to

https://www.soidog.org/en/sponsor-a-dog-or-cat/Default.aspx

they try and help with neutering dogs and cats so give them a call and some money.

[dcutman]

Although I'm a responsible owner of one dog, many of my neighbors have two or more dogs. Most are kept within their walled compound and many start howling sometime at night.

Thailand has a major problem with stray unneutered dogs and although I abhor the cruel way these dogs are transported and then held and slaughtered, what is the alternative.

The fact is that dog meat is eaten by many people in Isaan and Laos, Vietnam & China & Korea.

I have no problem with that, as I am a meat eater too. The transportation of sheep, pigs and cattle is almost as unkind as the dog transport.

It is the cruelty aspect that bothers me. If the animals could be killed humanely, I see no problem.

99% of these dogs are what I loosely refer to as 'soi dogs'. Rarely would you see a purebred dog in their company.

I think you've made some very good points unlike some of the other posts. I assume they either don't know what happens to these dogs in many cases or they don't care. Read this and if you still think these theives are a good idea then I think you have a real problem.

http://www.soidog.or...dog-meat-trade/

Quite often these are pets of children and it can be distressing for them. Strays need tackling but not like this.

My Thai gf has 8 dogs at the moment and they do run free although it has to be said this is outside the main village and there are many other dogs as well. Neutering would seem to be the obvious answer and I believe there maybe some government money for this. The problem is finding a good vet to do it and transporting the dog to them. I would think it would be difficult to get some of these dogs into a car. At the moment the bitches are given an injection which again I think is paid for by the government but it doesn't always work. The males in particular can tend to wander off as this is the way things are in Thailand. They seem to consider a dogs freedom as important in much the same way as many westerners consider undomesticated animals.

The main problem with ours is that they tend to run down the shared driveway when something goes past and if they feel like it. One bitch has a tendency to chase bikes which is a problem. I have looked at ways of stopping them from running onto the road but I'm back in the UK right now so 'll need to sort it out when I get back. I did get a gate put at our end of the drive but it's open during the day for vehicles so I want to separate the vehicles from the house with a fence of some sort. We also have another house that has access across our land so it all needs a bit of negotiation which I'll try again when I return. One of the issues is I can foresee the likely problems but I'm dealing with Thais and I'm not sure they see things as I do. I will just have to keep trying.

What exactly are you trying to say. This has to be one of more confusing posts I have ever read. From what I gather is you or your GF is a irresponsible dog owner. Edited August 20, 2012 by dcutman

[dcutman]

dam_n is it already that time of the month again. Until all local governments (Tambon) have a program for these dogs and cats from breeding out of control, this is Thailands best option. I doubt that many Thai's or Falang know that the government in every district of every province does spay and nurture dogs for free. The only problem is it is not advertised (you actually have to ask about it) and it only happens 2 times a year, they will also vaccinate your animals for free, not only your dog but all animals (not sure about cats) sorry Ratcatcher, but I am not sure if is at the same time. So there is some leg work.

Edited August 20, 2012 by dcutman

[dcutman]

Anyone who has a problem with Soi dogs its easy enough to cure just put your hand in your pocket and give a sensible donation to

https://www.soidog.o...at/Default.aspx

they try and help with neutering dogs and cats so give them a call and some money.

Or go to your District office and inquire about their FREE program for doing the same. Edited August 20, 2012 by dcutman

[dcutman]

At the end of the day its all about Thai culture greed for money greed even extends to Thai people and children being sold abroad for money I don’t mind the people being sold at least they have a chance to escape the dogs don’t. so well done Nakhon Panom residents to stand up for what you believe in just like the prison officer stood up for what he believed in last week with regards to drug dealers, many foreigners admire and respect you and your efforts still a few decent moral people in Thai society.

The dog meat trade sickens most civilized society in the world

It sickens me to watch a dog sleeping in the middle of the road with hardly one hair on its body from mange, or skin cancer or maybe food poisoning from eating rotten food from a trash can. It is also sick when they get run over by a car or a truck or worse a motorcycle, then the dog is going to die a slow painfull death and the rider of the motor cycle is in the hospital or maybe dead.

So in the end is the dog trade as sick as the so called owners of these poor animals?

[yougivemebaby]

Sad story. Arent there enough dogs roaming bangkok without them having to steal other peoples dogs. I just saw a stray dog nearly bite an old lady near bearing. The dog was snapping at the poor old lady. For what I don't know. I think they should get the dogs off the street. and if they want to eat them well go for it.

[KRS1]

Before long there will be farangs doing this to bargirls.

[annabel]

Surprisingly MTL and the other animal lover what's his name ( oh yes, The Beach Bum ... so appropriately named in view of his good manners ) haven't posted here yet with defamous remarks which they are so notoriously known for ..... Go for it guys and jump on the band wagon of let's kill dogs because they bark and are annoying... too bad we can't do that to all the annoying loud mouth people out there who obviously hate animals ... Pffffffffffff!!!

[fish fingers]

Soi Dog are a great charity and the couple who run it are real heroes. But at some stage the next generation will have to take their work forward and try to persuade thai government to speed up neutering of street dogs en masse

[gk10002000]

Side note. Many years ago, before I had gone to Thailand I saw a documentary on dogs and genetics and how they had differentiated over the years to the different breeds. They went to Thailand and showed that withing two or three generations, the dogs all regressed to about the same look: 40 pounds, brown color, etc. I had totally forgotten about the show until I went to Thailand and ran into my first packs of soi dogs.

[jerrysteve]

The fact of the matter is the powers that be have no viable alternative.

Any walking the streets during the day time and particulary the night time has found themselves confronted by packs of dogs; thungry

dogs looking to make a meal out of you;

People buy or obtain the dogs when they are puppies and cute. When the dogs are no long pupplies, the reponsibilty of caring for a dog

properly such as the necessary vaccines etc, falls by the wayside.

They put the dog in a car and drop it off somewhere. End of story.

[belg]

i prefer the dogs to end up in someone's plate, that to have to step into soi dog shit on the pavement ...or worse, that my or my family is hurt by a rabies dog where off course, nobody will claim ownership or responsibility

[gaucho]

i prefer the dogs to end up in someone's plate, that to have to step into soi dog shit on the pavement ...or worse, that my or my family is hurt by a rabies dog where off course, nobody will claim ownership or responsibility

yes i agree im over this crap about poor dogs get rid of them i have seen them bite and rip into people ...no responsibility here from the owners .....they r a bloody nuisance get rid of them now............

[gaucho]

Surprisingly MTL and the other animal lover what's his name ( oh yes, The Beach Bum ... so appropriately named in view of his good manners ) haven't posted here yet with defamous remarks which they are so notoriously known for ..... Go for it guys and jump on the band wagon of let's kill dogs because they bark and are annoying... too bad we can't do that to all the annoying loud mouth people out there who obviously hate animals ... Pffffffffffff!!!

its not about killing its about culling .....people like u r the problem .......i lived in a unit in sydney once and the stupid bitch next door had 20 ....yes thats right 20 cats ...the smell was agonising at night she let them roam the hallways ...these so called animal lovers r a pain ...ps i had a dog when i was a kid and loved it / i bought it treats with my pocket money and walked it for 30 mins minimum a day ....its called responsible behaviour ... try practicing it and dont let your emotions get in the way ...do u really think the dogs r experiencing a good life ...<deleted>

[kimamey]

Although I'm a responsible owner of one dog, many of my neighbors have two or more dogs. Most are kept within their walled compound and many start howling sometime at night.

Thailand has a major problem with stray unneutered dogs and although I abhor the cruel way these dogs are transported and then held and slaughtered, what is the alternative.

The fact is that dog meat is eaten by many people in Isaan and Laos, Vietnam & China & Korea.

I have no problem with that, as I am a meat eater too. The transportation of sheep, pigs and cattle is almost as unkind as the dog transport.

It is the cruelty aspect that bothers me. If the animals could be killed humanely, I see no problem.

99% of these dogs are what I loosely refer to as 'soi dogs'. Rarely would you see a purebred dog in their company.

I think you've made some very good points unlike some of the other posts. I assume they either don't know what happens to these dogs in many cases or they don't care. Read this and if you still think these theives are a good idea then I think you have a real problem.

http://www.soidog.or...dog-meat-trade/

Quite often these are pets of children and it can be distressing for them. Strays need tackling but not like this.

My Thai gf has 8 dogs at the moment and they do run free although it has to be said this is outside the main village and there are many other dogs as well. Neutering would seem to be the obvious answer and I believe there maybe some government money for this. The problem is finding a good vet to do it and transporting the dog to them. I would think it would be difficult to get some of these dogs into a car. At the moment the bitches are given an injection which again I think is paid for by the government but it doesn't always work. The males in particular can tend to wander off as this is the way things are in Thailand. They seem to consider a dogs freedom as important in much the same way as many westerners consider undomesticated animals.

The main problem with ours is that they tend to run down the shared driveway when something goes past and if they feel like it. One bitch has a tendency to chase bikes which is a problem. I have looked at ways of stopping them from running onto the road but I'm back in the UK right now so 'll need to sort it out when I get back. I did get a gate put at our end of the drive but it's open during the day for vehicles so I want to separate the vehicles from the house with a fence of some sort. We also have another house that has access across our land so it all needs a bit of negotiation which I'll try again when I return. One of the issues is I can foresee the likely problems but I'm dealing with Thais and I'm not sure they see things as I do. I will just have to keep trying.

What exactly are you trying to say. This has to be one of more confusing posts I have ever read. From what I gather is you or your GF is a irresponsible dog owner.

It doesn't seem confusing at all to me but then again I wrote it and knew what I was trying to say.

I don't think either myself or my gf is irresponsible. I'm from the UK where you very rarely see a dog out the street on it's own although that is a change from when I was young. Thailand is different, particularly in rural areas. Most of the time our dogs are on our land but there is sometimes a problem when the go on the road. One problem we have is that if we go for a walk some of the dogs follow us and then other dogs come out from houses and start to get aggressive. Just the usual territorial instincts of dogs although it's only aggressive sometimes. That's just the way it is here but we are both trying to do something about it.

I'm not sure why we have more dogs than others. Maybe others just dump their unwanted dogs, give them away or sell them when they are puppies. The bitches are all injected as far as I know but as I said it doesn't always seem to work. I'd like a more permanent option for both dogs and bitches but at the moment this seems a bit difficult at least in my area of Mahasarakham. Veterinary cover out here is nothing like in the UK and to be honest I'm a bit out of my depth at the moment.

The main thing we're trying to do is stop the dogs going on to the road even though it's not a busy one. My intention is to separate our cars and bikes from the area around the house where the dogs are so they don't follow us but I need to look at several options as the access is complicated and I need agreement from my gf's sister and husband.

Believe me we are trying.

It seems from what you say that the government help with neutering does exist. My gf told me about it but sometimes thing get lost in translation. As far as I know they give injections but will do surgery if the dog can be taken to vet's premises. This is something I want to try to do when I'm back in Thailand. I'm happy to pay for it though.

There also seems to be some confusion over rabies but this may help.

http://www.searo.who.int/LinkFiles/Zoonoses_THA-rabies-cp.pdf

Edited August 21, 2012 by kimamey

[kimamey]

Surprisingly MTL and the other animal lover what's his name ( oh yes, The Beach Bum ... so appropriately named in view of his good manners ) haven't posted here yet with defamous remarks which they are so notoriously known for ..... Go for it guys and jump on the band wagon of let's kill dogs because they bark and are annoying... too bad we can't do that to all the annoying loud mouth people out there who obviously hate animals ... Pffffffffffff!!!

its not about killing its about culling .....people like u r the problem .......i lived in a unit in sydney once and the stupid bitch next door had 20 ....yes thats right 20 cats ...the smell was agonising at night she let them roam the hallways ...these so called animal lovers r a pain ...ps i had a dog when i was a kid and loved it / i bought it treats with my pocket money and walked it for 30 mins minimum a day ....its called responsible behaviour ... try practicing it and dont let your emotions get in the way ...do u really think the dogs r experiencing a good life ...<deleted>

I think for most people it's not about the culling or eating but cruelty. I would rather have a humane cull than dogs skinned alive.

There are always irresponsible owners but not all are like that.

[ALFREDO]

Anyone have the phone number for this gang? I'd like to invite them to my soi.

[rbrooks]

Thais in BKK treat their dogs like pets but outside in the provinces it is a different manner. They run in packs and at night it can be very dangerous for anybody to walk down a road alone. Dogs are naturally pack animals and when roving in packs they tend to be aggressive and very territorial. The idea of rounding up the dogs and neutering them is fantastic but who will foot the bill. The Thais will not do it unless there is some profit in it for them.

[ALFREDO]

Although I'm a responsible owner of one dog, many of my neighbors have two or more dogs. Most are kept within their walled compound and many start howling sometime at night.

Thailand has a major problem with stray unneutered dogs and although I abhor the cruel way these dogs are transported and then held and slaughtered, what is the alternative.

The fact is that dog meat is eaten by many people in Isaan and Laos, Vietnam & China & Korea.

I have no problem with that, as I am a meat eater too. The transportation of sheep, pigs and cattle is almost as unkind as the dog transport.

It is the cruelty aspect that bothers me. If the animals could be killed humanely, I see no problem.

99% of these dogs are what I loosely refer to as 'soi dogs'. Rarely would you see a purebred dog in their company.

The problem is, some of these people stole dogs I took care in the whee hours of the night!