New Iphone 5

[Zhivago]

All right guys, let's relax and cut back on the rhetoric and attacks. This topic is about the New Iphone 5.

I can agree to that. Sorry to anyone offended. I saw it as healthy banter between people and never as personal attacks. But I agree, it went off topic so let's get back to iPhone 5.

[Tywais]

Post removed for referring to a member as a 'fool' and I do consider that inflammatory and continuing an argument. Further such posts will be removed without comment.

[Zhivago]

Post removed for referring to a member as a 'fool' and I do consider that inflammatory and continuing an argument. Further such posts will be removed without comment.

I guess I was the one described as a fool. I do not have any problems with that. Banter is as healthy as broccoli.

[lomatopo]

There are some reports of lag and scrolling issues with the iPhone 5, which may be hardware related.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/11/09/iphone-5-reportedly-suffers-from-quick-scrolling-issue

Friday, November 09, 2012, 04:03 pm

iPhone 5 reportedly suffers from quick scrolling issue

By Mikey Campbell

A so-called "glitch" with the iPhone 5's screen causes the display to pause or seemingly ignore touch input when a user rapidly swipes back and forth diagonally, possibly hinting at a hardware issue that can affect developers that rely on such touch mechanics for gaming.

[skippybangkok]

Ok ok... Just confusing if someone works so close to telemor, why they need to rely on newspapers for info.

Anyway, back to iPhone 5, just used it in a noisy shopping mall, and the new mic on the other side does wonders for noise reduction . It's a real wierd feeling - but clear voice

[DMC1]

Ok ok... Just confusing if someone works so close to telemor, why they need to rely on newspapers for info.

Anyway, back to iPhone 5, just used it in a noisy shopping mall, and the new mic on the other side does wonders for noise reduction . It's a real wierd feeling - but clear voice

Voice calls? That's so 90's

[skippybangkok]

Voice calls? That's so 90's

Lol.... I must say it was a real weird feeling, I guess I know how Agent 86 felt in the Dome of Silence !

[redsox44]

A Hon Hai (Foxconn) executive recently said that they are having a hard time keeping up with demand for the iPhone 5, although he didn't elaborate on the issues, be they component supplies, labor or challenges meeting Apple's tighter workmanship specs. The 14 year old girls probably have much nimbler fingers required but they can only be employed as "apprentices" on school break.

And there are some fugly rumors about Apple having to sink $ 2 billion into Sharp to keep it out of receivership and maintain display supplies ahead of the iPhone 5 launch.

And Samsung is rumored to be delaying a new fab plant aimed at addressing Apple component requirements.

Apple and Samsung should seriously sit down and hash out some sort of agreement as both are causing more harm, internally and externally, than the myriad lawsuits.

Even when they try to stymie each other it backfires, see how SGS3 sales surged, taking the model top-spot in Q3 with 18 million units, when Apple accused Samsung of copying? Better to peacefully co-exist.

Rumour mill in the U S is saying that Foxconn is set to announce plans to produce Apple products in the States. Detroit, LA, and the Albany NY areas seen to have the inside track if this becomes a reality. Mich governor is saying he's 90% sure he'll have a major announcement within 2 weeks. What he announces is pure speculation but.....

Edited November 10, 2012 by redsox44

[lomatopo]

^ The three mic set-up, and the associated HW and SW, definitely 'sound' slick, of course this is a benefit for the called party, who may not have an iPhone 5.

Apple iPhone 5 has three microphones and HD voice support, what's in it for you

Posted: 14 Sep 2012, 07:08, by Daniel P.

The Apple iPhone 5 is not the first phone showing up with not one or two, but three microphones - front, back, and on the bottom in its case. The iPhone 5 also supports wideband audio, which is popular under its commercial name HD voice, but about 80 handsets currently, among which a lot of Android handsets, also support it.

What are the potential benefits from this three-mics setup on the iPhone 5, though? First, the microphones - three means now Apple can use some advanced beam-forming directional audio techniques. Beam-forming uses two or more microphones pointed in different directions with a narrower coverage fields for picking up targeted sounds.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-iPhone-5-has-three-microphones-and-HD-voice-support-whats-in-it-for-you_id34486

[Polanskiman]

Back to my old iPhone 3G

The iPhone 5 is in its box waiting to be exchanged. I also came to the realization that it is better to have the white one where the aluminium is not colored as the slate one marks very very very easily and scratches are visible like a pimple on your nose tip!

Edited November 11, 2012 by Polanskiman

[muratremix]

Back to my old iPhone 3G

The iPhone 5 is in its box waiting to be exchanged. I also came to the realization that it is better to have the white one where the aluminium is not colored as the slate one marks very very very easily and scratches are visible like a pimple on your nose tip!

So they didn't let you inspect phone before you receive it? In True Show they always check phone with you against defects both in screen and phone chasis. And then they insert your sim, activate phone and lets you inspect one more. Thats how I received mine and no problems so far.

[Polanskiman]

Back to my old iPhone 3G

The iPhone 5 is in its box waiting to be exchanged. I also came to the realization that it is better to have the white one where the aluminium is not colored as the slate one marks very very very easily and scratches are visible like a pimple on your nose tip!

So they didn't let you inspect phone before you receive it? In True Show they always check phone with you against defects both in screen and phone chasis. And then they insert your sim, activate phone and lets you inspect one more. Thats how I received mine and no problems so far.

They did. Read my comment a little above where I explain my adventure They actually opened two boxes and both had scratches !! Simply incredible!

Edited November 11, 2012 by Polanskiman

[nikster]

Got it. The iPhone 5 is a thing of beauty - it's easily the most beautiful device of any kind out there. It's like a slice of the future.

It does to the iPhone 4 what the iPhone 4 did to the 3GS - it makes the iPhone 4 look clunky and old.

At True they inspected the phone very carefully, it's perfect. At least as far as the outside is concerned.

Last night I synced it, and charged it full for the first time; then I left it by the bedside. Got up in the middle of the night and glanced at the phone - battery was in the red!! That's after 3 hours of not using the phone! In the morning, dead. So it ran from 100% to 0 in around 6 hours, without being used at all.

I think I am gonna exchange that ....

[negreanu]

Fully charge it.

Erase all content and settings.

Let it run down to zero until it shuts down.

Recharge.

Found my battery % indicator was my accurate first charge.

Turn off the not relevant location services - really sucks the juice

Edited November 12, 2012 by negreanu

[Polanskiman]

Got it. The iPhone 5 is a thing of beauty - it's easily the most beautiful device of any kind out there. It's like a slice of the future.

It does to the iPhone 4 what the iPhone 4 did to the 3GS - it makes the iPhone 4 look clunky and old.

At True they inspected the phone very carefully, it's perfect. At least as far as the outside is concerned.

Last night I synced it, and charged it full for the first time; then I left it by the bedside. Got up in the middle of the night and glanced at the phone - battery was in the red!! That's after 3 hours of not using the phone! In the morning, dead. So it ran from 100% to 0 in around 6 hours, without being used at all.

I think I am gonna exchange that ....

Good luck with your slice of future. Piece of advise. Buy a case that will cover the whole phone or you will regret it soon enough. Aluminum is soft like butter and will mark with virtually anything you push it agains it with out forcing.

Edited November 12, 2012 by Polanskiman

[Polanskiman]

Fully charge it.

Erase all content and settings.

Let it run down to zero until it shuts down.

Recharge.

Found my battery % indicator was my accurate first charge.

Turn off the not relevant location services - really sucks the juice

I so understand why you say this, but honestly anyone buying a phone that price shouldn't be tweaking around to make phone work as it should. My advise. Return it and get one until it works as it should.

Edited November 12, 2012 by Polanskiman

[negreanu]

You could keep returning it.

But 7/10 users I know with it had the same problem.

Mine was bad but after 2 full charge and run dead. The battery life is nearly as good as the 4s.

I have the feeling those who dont have the issue did not restore the iPhone 5 from a iphone4 backup.

Ref: case yes it scratches way easier. My case leaves top and bottom uncovered just sides and corners and back.

Scratches paint missing already on the top. It's soft

Edited November 12, 2012 by negreanu

[muratremix]

No need for case. Just put cheap 150 thb front and back film protect. You don't even realize its there.

My batter is top notch, 2 days solid wifi/3g/location services/bluetooth open

[Polanskiman]

You could keep returning it.

But 7/10 users I know with it had the same problem.

Mine was bad but after 2 full charge and run dead. The battery life is nearly as good as the 4s.

I have the feeling those who dont have the issue did not restore the iPhone 5 from a iphone4 backup.

Ref: case yes it scratches way easier. My case leaves top and bottom uncovered just sides and corners and back.

Scratches paint missing already on the top. It's soft

You said it "7/10 users you know" have the same problem. Yeah well, for me I will keep returning it. Tired hearing the BS professed by Apple about their products and how wonderful and and how the competition is nowhere near them. If they were more humble probably I would go through trying to solve the problem myself or at least not bitching so much about small things, but in view of how they think they are the best (but also the price at which you pay their "creations"), I therefore expect from them perfection. If that's not possible as it seems to be, I will simply ask for my money back.

[Polanskiman]

No need for case. Just put cheap 150 thb front and back film protect. You don't even realize its there.

My batter is top notch, 2 days solid wifi/3g/location services/bluetooth open

Good luck with the "no case needed". Been there, done that! At the end of the day though, it all comes to what you want. I personally like protection

[nikster]

You could keep returning it.

But 7/10 users I know with it had the same problem.

Mine was bad but after 2 full charge and run dead. The battery life is nearly as good as the 4s.

I have the feeling those who dont have the issue did not restore the iPhone 5 from a iphone4 backup.

Ref: case yes it scratches way easier. My case leaves top and bottom uncovered just sides and corners and back.

Scratches paint missing already on the top. It's soft

You said it "7/10 users you know" have the same problem. Yeah well, for me I will keep returning it. Tired hearing the BS professed by Apple about their products and how wonderful and and how the competition is nowhere near them. If they were more humble probably I would go through trying to solve the problem myself or at least not bitching so much about small things, but in view of how they think they are the best (but also the price at which you pay their "creations"), I therefore expect from them perfection. If that's not possible as it seems to be, I will simply ask for my money back.

It's not about Apple - it's about your own time. How many times do you want to go back and return the phone?

I'd rather solve the problem.

@negreanu - thanks that's pretty much what I found on the internet too. The "last resort" fix for battery issues is to restore as a new phone (and not from backup). So that's what I did.

So far it worked - I restrained myself and did *not* touch the phone at all for 2 hours, and lost 3% battery. Extrapolating that if I didn't use the phone it would last 66 hours. Or close to 3 days. That's a bit less than I like but probably OK until Apple hopefully fix the issues. Note that's not using the phone - if I play Letterpress I can pretty much watch the % go down every few minutes. So real live battery will be much shorter.

I have turned off location services for the "date and time" setting - this is using location services quite frequently to automatically change the time zone should I move. As I am not spending all of my time on planes, time zone shifts are very infrequent and I am happy to do that by hand.

I've left everything else on.

Other things I've found in the Apple discussion forums:

- Set Skype to log out immediately. Apparently Skype is doing bad things if left in the "never log out" state, which is the default.

- Don't use Evernote - another problematic app

From a techie's perspective the issues with Skype and evernote tell me that iOS 6 has a problem with apps starting up or keep running in the background when they should not. The idea behind iOS background processes was originally that it's all controlled by the system so stray apps that run off and drain the battery cannot happen.

It seems iOS 6 broke this. There are bad cases where apps can drain lots of battery. Note that the apps are not to blame that's all on the operating system. That's what iOS used to do better than Android - Android would just let apps do whatever they want so one badly behaved app could drain battery. Guess no more.... hoping for a fix.

Maybe iOS 6 is the real reason Forstall was kicked out... Tim Cook got 3 hours of battery life on his shiny new phone and threw a fit...

Edited November 12, 2012 by nikster

[Polanskiman]

You could keep returning it.

But 7/10 users I know with it had the same problem.

Mine was bad but after 2 full charge and run dead. The battery life is nearly as good as the 4s.

I have the feeling those who dont have the issue did not restore the iPhone 5 from a iphone4 backup.

Ref: case yes it scratches way easier. My case leaves top and bottom uncovered just sides and corners and back.

Scratches paint missing already on the top. It's soft

You said it "7/10 users you know" have the same problem. Yeah well, for me I will keep returning it. Tired hearing the BS professed by Apple about their products and how wonderful and and how the competition is nowhere near them. If they were more humble probably I would go through trying to solve the problem myself or at least not bitching so much about small things, but in view of how they think they are the best (but also the price at which you pay their "creations"), I therefore expect from them perfection. If that's not possible as it seems to be, I will simply ask for my money back.

It's not about Apple - it's about your own time. How many times do you want to go back and return the phone?

I'd rather solve the problem.

It's not about Apple? My friend, I don't mean to look down on you but obviously you are not looking things straight. I give them my money in exchange of something. For me it is crystal clear that it's all and only about Apple.

How many times do I want to return back? Well did it twice, not three. That's my threshold.

Luckily you didn't went through having a loose battery, a clicking screen and two scratched iPhones straight out of the box. If that were the case I guess you would say the exact same thing than me.

[nikster]

^ Sure, if I had to replace it, I would. I am not going to tolerate scratches etc.

The True sales rep I got the phone from did let me inspect the phone for scratches, and also checked it himself, checked the screen and so on. I was really impressed - great customer service from True. It's smart - this way they save themselves some time for returned phones, and make sure their customers are happy. The sales rep told me that in this second batch some of the white ones were scratched but none of the black ones. He said that in the first batch a week prior a lot the black ones had scratches too.

For the battery issue, best use of my time is to fix it myself right now. It looks like it's most likely a software issue so changing the hardware won't do any good.

Just trying out the new "EarPod" headphones that came with the iPhone - WOW!!! That's a gigantic step up from what they had before. These are almost as good as my Boses... super comfortable, great sound, decent bass. They look weird but they sure work really well.

[ilCapitano79]

I thought white iPhone was immune to scratches, so it's not? Or are they just harder to get and less visible?

[Polanskiman]

I thought white iPhone was immune to scratches, so it's not? Or are they just harder to get and less visible?

No, They are made exactly from the same material so there is no reason why one should be immune to scratches and the other not. The difference lies in the coloration of the aluminum. The White iPhone is bare metal therefore scratches are less visible than the Black iPhone which is anodized. Any scratch on the later will simply show more. That's all.

Edited November 12, 2012 by Polanskiman

[muratremix]

There are several iPhone 5 drop videos. Unless it come scratched when you open the box (shame on foxconn qc), it shouldn't be easy to scratch yourself (unless you wanted to!)

[nikster]

Good news: Battery issue seems resolved.

Bad news: I've got no WiFi. It seems that it has super weak WiFi reception in my house. The iPhone 4 has 4 bars, the computer has 5 bars, the iPhone 5 zero to one - it can sometimes see the WiFi, sometimes not.

[Banzai99]

Good news: Battery issue seems resolved.

Bad news: I've got no WiFi. It seems that it has super weak WiFi reception in my house. The iPhone 4 has 4 bars, the computer has 5 bars, the iPhone 5 zero to one - it can sometimes see the WiFi, sometimes not.

I have had a right game with the WiFi ever since I was unfortunate enough to download iOS 6, funnily enough my iPhone 4S has been ok, but the iPad 3 has been a problem, disconnecting, there are a ton of threads about WiFi problems after downloading iOS 6, lets hope the next update will fix the problem, 6.0.1 didn't fix it for me.

IOS 6 has been a very buggy release.

[nikster]

My iPad 3 is OK with iOS 6. I had some WiFi disconnects but by and large it works. Not updating my iPhone 4, thankyouverymuch.

I think Apple needs to hire a WiFi person who does nothing but makes sure than new released don't break the WiFi. It's been true with OS X and now also iOS that updated software introduce one problem with WiFi or another ... it's frustrating.

I get reception if I am standing right next to the router. Move away a few meters, and the signal is lost.

[redsox44]

Good news: Battery issue seems resolved.

Bad news: I've got no WiFi. It seems that it has super weak WiFi reception in my house. The iPhone 4 has 4 bars, the computer has 5 bars, the iPhone 5 zero to one - it can sometimes see the WiFi, sometimes not.

Quality doesn't mean quantity, does it? This iPhone 5 thing is nothing but a joke.