Hi,

I am arriving to Thailand by air (Oman Air, one way ticket) and was hoping to be given the 30 day visa exemption upon arrival, however the problem is we are leaving after 28 days to Laos but will be doing so via land. Now I have read that you may have to prove that you have a flight out of thailand which we do not have. Will we still be granted our 30 day visa exemption if leaving by land and we will have no proof of our train ticket either?

Hope that makes sense and apologies if this question has been asked before.

Thanks.

Thai immigration has never asked me to show a ticket out in the last 25 years.

The airline could give you problems at check in?

It is indeed the airline that might refuse a boarding pass if there is no flight out of Thailand within 30 days from arrival.

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The airline might refuse to take you, unless you have a tourist visa.

I always fly with a one way ticket - but i have a non O visa (thai wife).

Several times the airlines asked me to show my visa.

You could be lucky, or you could be denied boarding.

To be safe, get a tourist visa in your home country --- a consulate is a better choice than the embassy.

If the Airline makes you serious problems at Check In regarding that you have no Flight out of TH in the next 30 days,

you could, say that you are willing to sign a paper, that you will pay any expenses the Airline has with you, if you are denied entry in TH because,

you have no onward ticket.

Worked with me once, in similar circumstances, to show my good will to pay verbally, had nothing to sign.

Or, you book the cheapest one way flight in the Airport or in the Internet coffee shop yourself with Air Asia, Tiger Airways or Jet Air ect to the cheapest destination out of TH in that questioned 30 days period. That is usually Kuala Lumpur or Singapore. (1.600 - 2.500 Baht, 40 - 65 Euro)

Visa would cost, 35.- Euro

But I think you have a good chance that you can talk your way out of that problem, should there be a discussion.

Just come early enough to have time to follow my advises.

Edited September 17, 201213 yr by ALFREDO

If the Airline makes you serious problems at Check In regarding that you have no Flight out of TH in the next 30 days,

you could, say that you are willing to sign a paper, that you will pay any expenses the Airline has with you, if you are denied entry in TH because,

you have no onward ticket.

Worked with me once, in similar circumstances, to show my good will to pay verbally, had nothing to sign.

Or, you book the cheapest one way flight in the Airport or in the Internet coffee shop yourself with Air Asia, Tiger Airways or Jet Air ect to the cheapest destination out of TH in that questioned 30 days period. That is usually Kuala Lumpur or Singapore. (1.600 - 2.500 Baht, 40 - 65 Euro)

Visa would cost, 35.- Euro

But I think you have a good chance that you can talk your way out of that problem, should there be a discussion.

Just come early enough to have time to follow my advises.

If you book a cheap flight out, with a different airline, how can you prove that booking?

Can the airline that flies you in, check your booking with that other airline?

Would they accept a print as proof?

Book a ticket within 30 days to a point outside the Kingdom. DO not try to talk your way out of it, that is the old days. Airlines will NOT take the liability & costs incurred if you are denied entry, 99% of the agents are ground agents handling Oman Air in Europe they'll be fired if they break any rules.

They require proof of a ticket, there are 4 data fields they enter into Timatic at departure in order for the system to issue a boarding pass & luggage tags Name/Departure Date/Airline/Record Locator-your print out will be suffice.

Book a ticket within 30 days to a point outside the Kingdom. DO not try to talk your way out of it, that is the old days. Airlines will NOT take the liability & costs incurred if you are denied entry, 99% of the agents are ground agents handling Oman Air in Europe they'll be fired if they break any rules.

They require proof of a ticket, there are 4 data fields they enter into Timatic at departure in order for the system to issue a boarding pass & luggage tags Name/Departure Date/Airline/Record Locator-your print out will be suffice.

Are you sure that a print of an outward booking (with a different airline) is sufficient?

After all, that is not 100% waterproof (booking could be cancelled or fake).

Book a ticket within 30 days to a point outside the Kingdom. DO not try to talk your way out of it, that is the old days. Airlines will NOT take the liability & costs incurred if you are denied entry, 99% of the agents are ground agents handling Oman Air in Europe they'll be fired if they break any rules.

They require proof of a ticket, there are 4 data fields they enter into Timatic at departure in order for the system to issue a boarding pass & luggage tags Name/Departure Date/Airline/Record Locator-your print out will be suffice.

Are you sure that a print of an outward booking (with a different airline) is sufficient?

After all, that is not 100% waterproof (booking could be cancelled or fake).

Yes different airline, low cost carrier not aligned code share partner. Booking will be cancelled as PAX is a no-show. As mentioned Timatic is the software that check in staff & ground agents use to verify documents, the computer tells them what to do. So they require the 4 fields mentioned above and voila boarding pass & bag tags.

You can see the data here. If any of the fields are missing they will question and you present onward ticket. DONE

-nidieunimaitre-

Yes,

if nothing works, talking and the will to sign any paper that you pay the costs the Airline has with you if you are denied entry to TH.

You book a flight at the Airport or yourself in the Internet on your Laptop, Mobile and have to print that booking as a confirmation and present it at the Check In counter of your BKK flight airline.

-WilliaminBKK-

You know. that most countries, have the regulation, that your Passport should be valid at least 6 month more when you entry them.

My sons (8 year young) Thai Passport was valid only 2 month more when I tried to board an Air Asia flight to BKK-Kuala Lumpur LCCT.

Big problem at Check In, I would have lost a lot, Some nights Hotel, Paid already and the possibility to see the MotoGP races in Sepang.

Yes, the Lady at Check Inn can maybe not decide, I was told, impossible that my son could fly.

I asked for the Supervisor and that man called another man and I was willing to sign papers same I wrote in above Posting.

A not so persistent man would have lost the holiday, but we flew!

And in Kuala Lumpur at Passport Control, I talked to the Immigration officer openly about that incident.

He smiled and stamped my sons Passport with a loud, "Welcome in Malaysia have a nice Race Day!"

Its never so hot eaten,as it is cooked William.

Are you sure that a print of an outward booking (with a different airline) is sufficient?

After all, that is not 100% waterproof (booking could be cancelled or fake).

You have to make, if necessary, a real booking and have to pay that ticket, print that ticket and show that print as proof at check in.

It is when you pay it a 100% legal ticket that proofs, that you have the possibility to fly out of TH in that 30 day period.

-nidieunimaitre-

Yes,

if nothing works, talking and the will to sign any paper that you pay the costs the Airline has with you if you are denied entry to TH.

You book a flight at the Airport or yourself in the Internet on your Laptop, Mobile and have to print that booking as a confirmation and present it at the Check In counter of your BKK flight airline.

-WilliaminBKK-

You know. that most countries, have the regulation, that your Passport should be valid at least 6 month more when you entry them.

My sons (8 year young) Thai Passport was valid only 2 month more when I tried to board an Air Asia flight to BKK-Kuala Lumpur LCCT.

Big problem at Check In, I would have lost a lot, Some nights Hotel, Paid already and the possibility to see the MotoGP races in Sepang.

Yes, the Lady at Check Inn can maybe not decide, I was told, impossible that my son could fly.

I asked for the Supervisor and that man called another man and I was willing to sign papers same I wrote in above Posting.

A not so persistent man would have lost the holiday, but we flew!

And in Kuala Lumpur at Passport Control, I talked to the Immigration officer openly about that incident.

He smiled and stamped my sons Passport with a loud, "Welcome in Malaysia have a nice Race Day!"

Its never so hot eaten,as it is cooked William.

I'm glade Air Asia showed common sense, and let you board no sense penalising a minor for that error & yes I learnt the 6 month rule 25 years ago when I joined the airline industry, not much has changed in all these years.

If you book a cheap flight out, with a different airline, how can you prove that booking?

Can the airline that flies you in, check your booking with that other airline?

Would they accept a print as proof?

You not only book a flight, make reservation, you buy a seat on a flight. Yes you have to print that booked and payed flight as a proof for check in,

if, everything else fails.

But, if you so fearful, make a Visa at any Thai Embassy or Consular section 35 Euro and you have no hassle!

Good night, I am in TH, greeting from Udon Thani and it is 5:25 AM

Edited September 17, 201213 yr by ALFREDO

This problem gave us headaches for many years!!

It seems to be a matter of luck if you meet a hard - arse check - in agent or not. Indeed the rules apparently say ..."Proof of onward travel" is needed.

After I had to buy once a full - fare ticket out of the country on the spot (This was "Air Berlin", out of same city) I now always prepare a fake Airasia travel itinarary for two weeks later.

And believe it or not... ever since then I was NOT asked to "proove onward travel" by Air B. again.

I start my round trip tickets in BK, I have never been asked by an airline to show a ticket out of Thailand until this current trip. A United counter lady at SFO asked for my onward ticket which I didn't have. I told her I've been doing it this way for 27 years, longer than she's been alive (she was at least 40 so this might have helped). I explained that I would get a 60 day extension in Vientiane and another 30 day ext in Khon Kaen when that was up. Then buy a round trip BKK-SFO ticket for the next trip. I don't know if it was the compliment or that I knew exactly what I was doing but it did the trick.

My sons (8 year young) Thai Passport was valid only 2 month more when I tried to board an Air Asia flight to BKK-Kuala Lumpur LCCT.

A Thai can travel to Thailand on an expired passport so that 2 month thing was wrong. All the airline would of had to of doon is read the IATA info that they can pull up on their computers.

Edited September 18, 201213 yr by ubonjoe

I start my round trip tickets in BK, I have never been asked by an airline to show a ticket out of Thailand until this current trip. A United counter lady at SFO asked for my onward ticket which I didn't have. I told her I've been doing it this way for 27 years, longer than she's been alive (she was at least 40 so this might have helped). I explained that I would get a 60 day extension in Vientiane and another 30 day ext in Khon Kaen when that was up. Then buy a round trip BKK-SFO ticket for the next trip. I don't know if it was the compliment or that I knew exactly what I was doing but it did the trick.

You had a visa which does not require a return or onward ticket.

Would the bus ticket out be ok?

Call your airline there now at their airport location if you can and ask them what is their bording policy, tell them what you just told us.

No a bus ticket will not be accepted by the airlines. Plus it is very hard if not impossible to get an advanced booking on buses here.

Would the bus ticket out be ok?

As the rules say

-Onward or return Ticket out of TH in the period of your 30 days of Visa exemption-

and mean of course a flight Ticket. So, to your question, NO.

But, you can, fly to a Thailand neighboring country, or Singapore, who has possible? different rules, to come to cross their borders at Airport.

Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Phnom Penh, Vientiane and cross into TH at a land border, by train or Bus.

You get only 14 Days (Most Visa exemption countries get 14 days) allowance to stay, but no questions asked, at least not at the TH border.

If you think its worth that effort.

But I think, they all have such return-onward flight rules.

Edited September 18, 201213 yr by ALFREDO

My sons (8 year young) Thai Passport was valid only 2 month more when I tried to board an Air Asia flight to BKK-Kuala Lumpur LCCT.

A Thai can travel to Thailand on an expired passport so that 2 month thing was wrong. All the airline would of had to of doon is read the IATA info that they can pull up on their computers.

Tried to board a flight from BKK - to Kuala Lumpur LCCT, sorry -ubonjoe- you misunderstood,

I wrote it a bit confusing as -to BKK-Kuala Lumpur- Sorry,

but, when you read the story, - I wanted to fly to MotoGp in Sepang ect. - you woud have understood.

Edited September 18, 201213 yr by ALFREDO

I start my round trip tickets in BK, I have never been asked by an airline to show a ticket out of Thailand until this current trip. A United counter lady at SFO asked for my onward ticket which I didn't have. I told her I've been doing it this way for 27 years, longer than she's been alive (she was at least 40 so this might have helped). I explained that I would get a 60 day extension in Vientiane and another 30 day ext in Khon Kaen when that was up. Then buy a round trip BKK-SFO ticket for the next trip. I don't know if it was the compliment or that I knew exactly what I was doing but it did the trick.

You had a visa which does not require a return or onward ticket.

Sorry -ubonjoe- you misunderstood.

-riceyummm- had no VISA, he wanted to come with a 30 day Visa exemption into TH, than travel to Vientiane and get there a Tourist Visa for 60 days, which he would extent at the Khon Kaen Immigration office for another 30 days.

A wise solution, so he has with a short Overnight trip to Vientiane, 120 days in TH. (30-trip-and 90)

Call your airline there now at their airport location if you can and ask them what is their bording policy, tell them what you just told us.

I believe, I know the answer!

But, that does not mean, that you cannot fly without a Thai Visa and Return or Onward ticket out of TH, just read the thread and all the possibilities.

Anyway crazy, just think how many people cross the land borders of TH every day and have no hassle regarding that question, the thread is about.

Edited September 18, 201213 yr by ALFREDO

Call your airline there now at their airport location if you can and ask them what is their bording policy, tell them what you just told us.

I believe, I know the answer!

But, that does not mean, that you cannot fly without a Thai Visa and Return or Onward ticket out of TH, just read the thread and all the possibilities.

Anyway crazy, just think how many people cross the land borders of TH every day and have no hassle regarding that question, the thread is about.

True.

But ssssssssssssst! Do not give them ideas!

Just buy a fully refundable 1 way ticket out of the country in advance. Print that off and you're fine both for the airline to fly you to BKK and for immigration at BKK. They don't care about your onward travel from the 3rd country.

Once you have arrived cancel the other ticket and get your full refund. Done all the time with absolutely no problems and moreover at no cost other then the limited time you have your money locked up in the one way ticket.

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It seems to be a matter of luck if you meet a hard - arse check - in agent or not. Indeed the rules apparently say ..."Proof of onward travel" is needed.

After I had to buy once a full - fare ticket out of the country on the spot (This was "Air Berlin", out of same city) I now always prepare a fake Airasia travel itinarary for two weeks later.

And believe it or not... ever since then I was NOT asked to "proove onward travel" by Air B. again.

This is Murphy's law in reverse

I start my round trip tickets in BK, I have never been asked by an airline to show a ticket out of Thailand until this current trip. A United counter lady at SFO asked for my onward ticket which I didn't have. I told her I've been doing it this way for 27 years, longer than she's been alive (she was at least 40 so this might have helped). I explained that I would get a 60 day extension in Vientiane and another 30 day ext in Khon Kaen when that was up. Then buy a round trip BKK-SFO ticket for the next trip. I don't know if it was the compliment or that I knew exactly what I was doing but it did the trick.

You had a visa which does not require a return or onward ticket.

No visa, 30 days at immigration at BKK, 60 more at Vientiane, then 30 more in KK.

Just buy a fully refundable 1 way ticket out of the country in advance. Print that off and you're fine both for the airline to fly you to BKK and for immigration at BKK. They don't care about your onward travel from the 3rd country.

Once you have arrived cancel the other ticket and get your full refund. Done all the time with absolutely no problems and moreover at no cost other then the limited time you have your money locked up in the one way ticket.

Brilliant, simple, elegant. I never thought of that and will do it from now on in case I get a hard ass agent at SFO.

So tourist visa or a flight out are the only safe answer. Glad I asked it would have been awful to be refused to fly. Thanks for all the advice.