perrychrispy Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 When I met my Thai girlfriend she told me she was 19 and I was 25 at the time. Now 2 years and 1 baby boy later she tells me she is only 18 which means she was 16 when we first started seeing each other which infuriated me! Believe me, she did not look nor dress like she was 16 :/ My main concern now is that when I bring my 1yo son to the American Embassy for citizenship and a passport, they'll do the math and know she was only 16 when we consummated and then arrest me for statutory rape. What do I do?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourauntbob Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) I do not believe they will arrest you when you go to the embassy. First, they are not the enforcer of Thai laws, and seeing that your transgretions were in Thailand they have no oversight or authority over it. (if i steal something here, they will not jail me there). Second, (and i could be wrong) I believe the age of consent here is 15 or 16 (not that I would ever touch something that young at my age). Edited October 17, 2012 by yourauntbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) she told me she was 19 and... Now 2 years and 1 baby boy later she tells me she is only 18 You have a child with your partner and you have never seen her ID card? Edited October 17, 2012 by Morakot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomRakBKK Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Which bar did employ her at 16? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike123ca Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I do not believe they will arrest you when you go to the embassy. First, they are not the enforcer of Thai laws, and seeing that your transgretions were in Thailand they have no oversight or authority over it. (if i steal something here, they will not jail me there). Second, (and i could be wrong) I believe the age of consent here is 15 or 16 (not that I would ever touch something that young at my age). I do not believe they will arrest you when you go to the embassy. First, they are not the enforcer of Thai laws, and seeing that your transgretions were in Thailand they have no oversight or authority over it. (if i steal something here, they will not jail me there). Second, (and i could be wrong) I believe the age of consent here is 15 or 16 (not that I would ever touch something that young at my age). I use to believe that. If you engage in illegal sexual activities in a foreign country you can be persecuted by the American government. http://www.worldvision.org/resources.nsf/main/child_protection.pdf/$file/stp_law.pdf The OP should consult with a lawyer to see what his position is about marrying an underage female. If the female was underage, I thought here in Thailand she would need to get the permission of her parents to marry. If the parents gave permission, I don't think the op will have any problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalkingMan Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Be really careful on this and the poster suggesting a lawyer is correct. The US can be maniacal on this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang000999 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 what did/do her parents think of the arrangement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Which bar did employ her at 16? Are you being rude or ignorant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songhua Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 The OP did not say they're married. He said he got her pregnant. Phone the embassy anonomously and ask. But make sure the person you are speaking to is qualified to give you the right answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 If you didnt ask to see her ID card after 2 years!!! then your silly. Are you going to tell us now she didnt have 1? Please dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OxfordWill Posted October 17, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2012 Don't you think he is feeling silly enough already without you pointing it out? Get legal advice from a qualified lawyer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrychrispy Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 No I did not check her ID. When I met her she worked at a pool hall serving drinks. Now I know this is Thailand but I just assumed you had to be over 18. Also since she was really good about lying about her age, she was also really good at keeping her identification away. Her mom is ok about it (father passed). So I'm not worried about that. Just I know that technically the embassy is American soil so they can if they want, enforce their law. I was thinking about running for the hills cause now I just can't trust her, but I love my son too much to just abandon him. Just gonna have to see a lawyer I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travel2003 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 No I did not check her ID. When I met her she worked at a pool hall serving drinks. Now I know this is Thailand but I just assumed you had to be over 18. Also since she was really good about lying about her age, she was also really good at keeping her identification away. Her mom is ok about it (father passed). So I'm not worried about that. Just I know that technically the embassy is American soil so they can if they want, enforce their law. I was thinking about running for the hills cause now I just can't trust her, but I love my son too much to just abandon him. Just gonna have to see a lawyer I guess Normally people here look younger than their age. Especially when make up is off. And, when we start having a conversation with them, we will soon figure out levels as well. All these things should easily have told you she was a young girl. Having said that, Her mom is ok with it. What about you family? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrychrispy Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Also you guys seem to be doing the trolling. You don't understand the situation. I was gone for a year working in OZ, saving money while she was over here taking care of the baby. It wasn't until I came back 2 weeks ago and made an appointment with the US embassy that she came out and told me! I'm not some pedo that gets off on banging teenage girls! If I would have known I wouldn't have gotten involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 No I did not check her ID. When I met her she worked at a pool hall serving drinks. Now I know this is Thailand but I just assumed you had to be over 18. Also since she was really good about lying about her age, she was also really good at keeping her identification away. Her mom is ok about it (father passed). So I'm not worried about that. Just I know that technically the embassy is American soil so they can if they want, enforce their law. I was thinking about running for the hills cause now I just can't trust her, but I love my son too much to just abandon him. Just gonna have to see a lawyer I guess You may also make a dna test on the child. As you said " cause now I just can't trust her". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 As already said seeing a lawyer is the only way to find out properly, but isn't the age of consent 16 with a parents permission ? As it happened on Thai soil isn't it only Thai law that applies ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) This thread would be better in the family and kids forum. Less judgmental and better advice. You are not married so are you the legal father under Thai law? Edited October 17, 2012 by Scully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrychrispy Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yea they look younger which is also why I wasn't suspicious. She also had a massive chest for such a young girl. Did you also not read that she was serving drinks at a pool hall? I didn't come on here to get reprimanded! Just some advice is all. Hopefully someone with a similar experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrychrispy Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Already had a paternity test. The kid is 99.9% mine doucher! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomRakBKK Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Which bar did employ her at 16? Are you being rude or ignorant? Neither. Just being realistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Hang on a minute the age of consent in America varies according to state 16 upwards, so if they don't arrest someone in another state for having sex with a 16 year old they're hardly likely to arrest someone whose met the law in Thailand or am I missing something ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) Just asked my wife. The legal age for sex in Thailand is 18. There must be ways around your problem regards to the child. Just put your thinking cap on. Sorry my wifes an idiot sometimes.Im gonna smack her in the head for that. Edited October 17, 2012 by krisb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrychrispy Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 No I checked. The age of consent is 16 if the parents are cool with it. I'm more worried about the US side of things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Age of consent in Thailand is 15 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perrychrispy Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 15 for Thai men. 16 for foreigners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 No I did not check her ID. When I met her she worked at a pool hall serving drinks. Now I know this is Thailand but I just assumed you had to be over 18. Also since she was really good about lying about her age, she was also really good at keeping her identification away. Her mom is ok about it (father passed). So I'm not worried about that. Just I know that technically the embassy is American soil so they can if they want, enforce their law. I was thinking about running for the hills cause now I just can't trust her, but I love my son too much to just abandon him. Just gonna have to see a lawyer I guess Dont run away. Work through the issue and find the answer. There is 1.Keep your chin up and dont panic mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Age of consent in Thailand is 15 years old. Mario is the resident expert on visa and laws, wikipedia also concurs with him with the parents consent. It's all down to what her mother says if there is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicbr Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Age of consent in Thailand is 15 years old. That is for marriage with the parents consent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Age of consent in Thailand is 15 years old. 15 now Mario! geez thats getting young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaidDown Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Age of consent in Thailand is 15 years old. The only provisos are 1 With parents consent 2 There must be no monetary or non-monetary inducements associated with the permission. No difference for Thais or Foreigners, and is for allowing sexual relations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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