60 Day "marriage" Extension Query

[minotaur]

Need to apply for a 60 day extension for reason of marraige soon and wonder if anyone has experience of this.

Is it a fairly fast and automatic process? It would be nice to think so but you never know.

I plan to take the following:

passport with copies

marriage certificate

wife with ID and house registration

completed form with photo

1900 baht

Anything I've left out?

Do they need originals of wife's house registration?

Thanks for any feedback.

[lopburi3]

That should do it - do not know if they require original but suspect original marriage and ID card will be enough.

[wayned]

Also the wIife!

[Nisa]

They need copies of her ID and the marriage certificate. I can't remember if they look at the originals but they need to take the copies. If she did a name change after marriage, also bring that and copy too.

You don't need the house registration.

[BEVUP]

Copy of all the above

They will also maybe (as they did with me ) - make you copy your entry / departue stamp & departure carrd (after number near scanning bar)

[lopburi3]

Also the wIife!

He got that word I suspect as he posted:

wife with ID and house registration

[waters]

Can anyone confirm whether 'the wife' really has to go as well? This is only the 60 day extension - not the 1 year extension and interview right?

[Nisa]

Can anyone confirm whether 'the wife' really has to go as well? This is only the 60 day extension - not the 1 year extension and interview right?

I have done a number of these and I always bring my wife and they always have her sign some of the copies you need to provide. I have been doing this years and believe I asked at one point and this is why we always go together. It is my understanding you actually don't need your wife to get the 1-year extension when you go to an embassy outside Thailand. I have just found the 60-day to be easier.

I think one of the mods can confirm but I am 99% sure she needs to be there. I've actually been tempted to ask if she doesn't because I have so many stamps for these in my passport but then either forget or have just figured they are going to say yes because they probably want to see you are still together since it is an extension to support her.

[waters]

Thanks Nisa. I think we'll go together for the first one just to be sure.

Can I ask - have you applied for a 60 day extension, right after another 60 day extension? I.e. back to back?

[Nisa]

Thanks Nisa. I think we'll go together for the first one just to be sure.

Can I ask - have you applied for a 60 day extension, right after another 60 day extension? I.e. back to back?

I have never done that because you can't do that. You "might" be able to get a 7-day extension if you are in a bind but for sure can not get back to back 60-day extensions.. If I have not flown anywhere then I do a land border run with one of the visa companies and get a 15-day entry stamp and get the 60-days on that. I have done this many times back to back in terms of getting the 15-day entry, then the 60-day extension and then the 15-day entry again and so on.

I was going to get the 1-year Visa but that means spending a night somewhere and basically missing 2 days of work which I could handle but I was told you still need to do a border run every 90-days which seemed crazy but this I may be wrong about but just going on memory why I chose to keep doing the 60-day extensions after a 15-day border crossing entry.

I think it was lopburi3 who explained this in 1-thread about the 1-year but one good thing now with the 1-year is you don't need to show proof of income if you go to Laos. Let me see if I can find a link to another thread that covers this stuff more, i know lopburi3 has explained it a few times because I too had lots of questions ... my problem is I don't remember all the answers and just remember to do what I am doing because of those answers..

[BEVUP]

Interesting Nissa

As my 60 day ext expires 2/12 but already made plans to go to Loa for 90 day Multi

I guess adds up the same in the end

[Maestro]

...I was going to get the 1-year Visa but that means spending a night somewhere and basically missing 2 days of work which I could handle but I was told you still need to do a border run every 90-days which seemed crazy but this I may be wrong about but just going on memory why I chose to keep doing the 60-day extensions after a 15-day border crossing entry....

Since you are working, can't you get a one-year extension of stay for the reason of working?

[Nisa]

Interesting Nissa

As my 60 day ext expires 2/12 but already made plans to go to Loa for 90 day Multi

I guess adds up the same in the end

Hopefully somebody jumps in here and can explain this accurately but I think you can convert that tourist visa into a 1-year extension or some kind of visa based on marriage right in Thailand but I just cannot recall the details (or if I am even close to being correct) but I think what it would do is give you a 1-year entry but you need to leave the country every 90-days (walk out and come back in) and then I think near the end of this year you can convert it to another type of visa at immigration that would only require address reporting (you can do by mail) every 90-days. Now I am curious again but just know that for some reason I determined for me it was just easiest to do things the way I am but now an wondering again if the non-o visa would be smarter and easier.

[Nisa]

...I was going to get the 1-year Visa but that means spending a night somewhere and basically missing 2 days of work which I could handle but I was told you still need to do a border run every 90-days which seemed crazy but this I may be wrong about but just going on memory why I chose to keep doing the 60-day extensions after a 15-day border crossing entry....

Since you are working, can't you get a one-year extension of stay for the reason of working?

No, all together different topic and story

[lopburi3]

One year extension requires a non immigrant visa entry and if you qualify for that type of extension (money would not have to meet time in account requirements) you can convert a tourist or visa exempt entry at some immigration offices for 2,000 baht if you have about 15 days or more remaining on stay. If you can not do in local office you can do in Bangkok. You would do the actual extension 60 days later at local immigration office.

[TerryLH]

"...they probably want to see you are still together since it is an extension to support her"

I don't think that's correct. My understanding is that it's to visit, not support.

The one year extension to 'support' your wife doesn't require you to leave the country.

Terry

[Mario2008]

"...they probably want to see you are still together since it is an extension to support her"

I don't think that's correct. My understanding is that it's to visit, not support.

The one year extension to 'support' your wife doesn't require you to leave the country.

Terry

The 60 day extension requires that the wife attends immigration with you.

[waters]

Thanks Nisa and Mario2008,

Okay - I get the 60 day extension now. You're extending your 15 or 30 day visa waiver, and so at the end of the 60 days you have to leave, and come back and then apply for another 60 days.

As for the 1 year Non-O visa for the reason of Thai Spouse - I've also read and understood that you can apply for a 1 year multiple entry Non-O in Savannaket - and that you will not be asked to show proof of income. You'll come back to Thailand with a Non-O Visa (a real visa, not an extension) and you can use this for up to a 1 year - being given a 90 day stamp each time you come in - and all in - it's a little more convenient that the 60 day extension (since you don't have to visit immigration).

The one year extension to stay (with no 90 day in/out requirements) is a whole 'nother thing, and requires proof of income (40,000 Baht) or 400,000 Baht of 'seasoned' money.

Off to immigration on Thursday morning to apply for a 60 day extension against my 30 day visa waiver which expires on Monday. Fingers crossed.

[KeithP]

As for the 1 year Non-O visa for the reason of Thai Spouse - I've also read and understood that you can apply for a 1 year multiple entry Non-O in Savannaket - and that you will not be asked to show proof of income. You'll come back to Thailand with a Non-O Visa (a real visa, not an extension) and you can use this for up to a 1 year - being given a 90 day stamp each time you come in - and all in - it's a little more convenient that the 60 day extension (since you don't have to visit immigration).

The one year extension to stay (with no 90 day in/out requirements) is a whole 'nother thing, and requires proof of income (40,000 Baht) or 400,000 Baht of 'seasoned' money.

Off to immigration on Thursday morning to apply for a 60 day extension against my 30 day visa waiver which expires on Monday. Fingers crossed.

Hi, I'm new here.... I currently on Non-O visa (90 days) and been in Thailand since mid Sep and the visa is valid until early Dec 2012. Anyway, I will need to travel back to New Zealand end of Nov for a few months and back to Thailand again in mid Feb. My wife is Thai, and we are married since last year, and been living in NZ.

Anyway my question is, how/what visa should I be applying next so that I can stay in Thailand next year? 1 year multiple entry Non-O? .. . does this mean I do nothing now, and i get automatic 90-days stamp when i come to Thailand again in Feb? Then, I can go and apply for my one year extension to stay with proof of income (40,000 Baht) or 400,000 Baht of 'seasoned' money?

or I have to go apply for my one year extension to stay with proof of income (40,000 Baht) or 400,000 Baht of 'seasoned' money now?

if I need to apply anything, can you please provide which form number etc i need to fill etc too?

Thanks in advance

Keith

(Lampang)

[lopburi3]

If you intend to stay in Thailand on extension of stay just get a single entry non immigrant O visa before you leave NZ in February for your entry into Thailand and then 60-80 days later visit immigration with wife and paperwork to extend on basis of Thai wife. That will be done with a TM.7 form and cost is 1,900 baht. Your visa in NZ should cost about 2,000 baht in local currency.

If you plan frequent travel the multi entry non immigrant O visa might be a better choice but each stay limited to 90 days but simple exit return for another; and no extension required or 90 day address reports.

[KeithP]

Thank you lopburi3, so with the multiple entry non-immigration O visa, this allow me to travel out of the country (inside the 90 days) and each re- enter to Thailand I get a new 90-days stamp?

[ubonjoe]

Correct

If you are going to be in Thailand longer than 90 days you would have to a border run to get another 90 day entry.

[Captain Haddock]

When I did this in NSThammarat Imm, they said I'd only need to bring my wife the first time, as they had then seen her as proof! I did ask them about doing this back to back again, and was quite clearly told that there was no limit to the number of times I could do this and indeed I know of two other gentlemen who are using this as an alternative to tying up 400k bt for the non imm o. Guess it varies by province...

[Captain Haddock]

I should add that the above was done after entering the country on a normal overland 15 day tourist visa thing...

[cbrer]

We also needed a copy of her rental contract as her Tabien Bahn was from outside of BKK and you have to do it in the local immigration office. We were told 'Sorry, you have to do in her province (800km away), not here' until we pulled out the rental contract and list of docs needed.

Different officers, different rules. Almost all trying to find ways of refusing.

[ubonjoe]

For the 60 day extension you have to apply where you are living. When they read the address in the her house book they assumed that was where you were living. The rental contract took care of that problem.

[ubonjoe]

When I did this in NSThammarat Imm, they said I'd only need to bring my wife the first time, as they had then seen her as proof! I did ask them about doing this back to back again, and was quite clearly told that there was no limit to the number of times I could do this and indeed I know of two other gentlemen who are using this as an alternative to tying up 400k bt for the non imm o. Guess it varies by province...

You could make a trip to Savannakhet Laos and get a mutliple entry non-o visa with no proof of income needed or KL Malaysia showing 100K in the bank. You could get almost 15 months without needing a new visa. You would only need to make border runs every 90 days and doing the last one just before the visa expires.

[cbrer]

For the 60 day extension you have to apply where you are living. When they read the address in the her house book they assumed that was where you were living. The rental contract took care of that problem.

Well done.

That's quite an insightful interpretation of the post that says the exact same thing.

[cbrer]

When I did this in NSThammarat Imm, they said I'd only need to bring my wife the first time, as they had then seen her as proof! I did ask them about doing this back to back again, and was quite clearly told that there was no limit to the number of times I could do this and indeed I know of two other gentlemen who are using this as an alternative to tying up 400k bt for the non imm o. Guess it varies by province...

You could make a trip to Savannakhet Laos and get a mutliple entry non-o visa with no proof of income needed or KL Malaysia showing 100K in the bank. You could get almost 15 months without needing a new visa. You would only need to make border runs every 90 days and doing the last one just before the visa expires.

Plus he could then extend the final 90 day 'Permission of Stay' for 60 days so making it all last 17 months.*

(where the months are 30 days, so probably more 12 months, plus 90 days plus 60 days. You know, for the pedants )

[transam]

When is the latest or earliest one can go to immigration for a 60 day extension of a non-O permission to stay. ?