Lovesick Russian Drinks Himself To Death In Phuket

[soi41]

it can be hard for very worn at the edges much older men.......( esp. with mr V ). young men could get heartbroken ( disillusioned enough to be overly dramatic and torture the body )........better to have loved and lost . than never to have loved at tall long legged beauty.... who XXXXX off when all the cash has been spent on her...tears in paradise...again...

Unless you want to end up like our Russian friend, DON'T open the second (or third) bottle!

[Beetlejuice]

Slow news day - not the first person in Thailand to drink themselves to death - although this particular case might be a record in terms of time.

I agree.

It could simply be that the guy had a drinking problem.

I do know that when foreigners visit Thailand for the first time from colder climates, that the heat and the alcohol can have the serious affect of depleting sugar levels in the body to dangerously low levels, causing severe dehydration, coma, heart attack and even death in some cases.

It`s true, drinking alcoholic drinks can cause dehydration. It is advised to drink plenty of water and to eat a snack, something to soak up the alcohol prior to heavy drinking.

Edited November 15, 2012 by Beetlejuice

[MrRed]

Thai Whiskey = Poison

I hardly ever commit suicide, be it by drinking or any other means. But there was a period - say thirty-some to twenty years ago i had the feeling I was doing it on a regular basis in Thailand: For a young man with both romantic and idealistic notions of life in the LOS, I think the most difficult concept to fathom was also the concept I most admired in the Thai people. Their ability to live in the present. Farangs keep admiring this ability and forget/do not understand that for us who have an inborn/cultural need to make plans, follow up on other things than only family - meeting a loving, beautiful creature only living in the present is in fact living with heaven and hell multiple times I day! I gave up on committing suicide a long time ago, never drank Hong Tong, and have been admiring the stars and staring into the simmering pools of hell the last 20 years with a stable mind, knowing I will always be surprised, sometimes negatively but mostly positively - because I still enjoy surprises!

I was ignorant, romantic and idealistic. And survived. What we see now is a lot of people arriving in Thailand - and thinking because they have the means - they can bring their own comfort zone with them. All they have to do is pay. And pay they do! May "Ivan" RIP.

A star is born ......post more often RIP to the gentleman concerned.

[smotherb]

Yes, alcohol poisoning, but the police also 'speculated that there also could be a genetic predisposition to heart disease.' I think the pretty Thai girl must be innocent, she did distance herself from him when his money dwindled.

[manxninja]

So its true what they say alchol is bad for you.

Another farang that doesnt understand the no money no honey attitude.

[baboon]

My heart goes out to the family and friends of this young man. I am sorry for your loss.

[MaiThaiMai]

Saddest part is he was only 27 no matter cause of death...

It's my experience (no opine here) a broken heart can be mended ... usually in a 1/2 hour (or less) in Pattaya.

[smotherb]

Normal Thai women under thirty do not get into bed with foreigners easily. If you love one such you will have to take your time to find out if she really is the girl for you. If you have fallen in love with the stranger that you slept with last spend you money have your fun and then go get another one. Never take such ladies to you own room period.

Nonsense - maybe they don't sleep with you but I assure you when I was young they did. What's this got to with anything anyway, albeit wrong?

Are you numb-nuts even real? What is a normal Thai girl? It appears from 90%+ of the posters to these forums comments about the trials of relationships with Thai women; the normal Thai girl must be a bar girl, karaoke hostess, booking girl, massage girl, short-time girl, street-walker girl, or whatever girl of negotiable virtue. Those Thai girls under thirty do get in bed with foreigners easily. It just takes money. It is so sad. How many of you have ever gone to dinner with a Thai girl you didn't barfine to get there? Very few, I'd wager. And, if I may, I'll tell you what that statement had to do with the issue. He is saying stay away from ladies of negotiable virtue and go with nice girls--normal girls. I'll bet some of you have been here 20 years and have never seen one.

[jrincon17]

He should have listed to the song "One Night in Bankok", tells the story right there. Poor guy , beautiful have so much power over someone. There are plenty of fishes out there.

[landslide]

It is possible to die in repose. 5 years ago i suffered a Sudden Cardiac arrest. One moment I was talking to my friends, the next thing I knew is I was surrounded by people and my clothes had been cut off. I was lucky, in that I was fishing and had not been feeling well, and had gone to the emergency room which was an hour away to get checked out. 10 minutes after arriving, my heart stopped. I now have an implanted cardiac device that would shock my heart back into normal rhythm if it occurs again. I felt no pain or sensation at all during the event. Sudden cardiac arrest (SCA) can kill with no warning.

[Beetlejuice]

Normal Thai women under thirty do not get into bed with foreigners easily. If you love one such you will have to take your time to find out if she really is the girl for you. If you have fallen in love with the stranger that you slept with last spend you money have your fun and then go get another one. Never take such ladies to you own room period.

Nonsense - maybe they don't sleep with you but I assure you when I was young they did. What's this got to with anything anyway, albeit wrong?

Are you numb-nuts even real? What is a normal Thai girl? It appears from 90%+ of the posters to these forums comments about the trials of relationships with Thai women; the normal Thai girl must be a bar girl, karaoke hostess, booking girl, massage girl, short-time girl, street-walker girl, or whatever girl of negotiable virtue. Those Thai girls under thirty do get in bed with foreigners easily. It just takes money. It is so sad. How many of you have ever gone to dinner with a Thai girl you didn't barfine to get there? Very few, I'd wager. And, if I may, I'll tell you what that statement had to do with the issue. He is saying stay away from ladies of negotiable virtue and go with nice girls--normal girls. I'll bet some of you have been here 20 years and have never seen one.

Hate myself for this, but I tried and cannot find anything in your comments to disagree with.

Some years ago it was possible to find sincere love and real romance in Thailand, I know, I was there. I had many close American and English friends who met lovely Thai girls either in Farangland or in Thailand. Married and took them back to their own countries. Some of the guys are now in they’re 50s, 60s and even 70s and still living happily with their Thai wife’s. Have nice family homes together, kids, grandchildren and all that goes with it.

But it seems today that attitudes have dramatically changed and now it`s business first than pleasure afterwards and the Thai wives have become the tied wives, meaning they are a partnership with the cash and once the money runs out, they too run out.

I just don`t believe anymore that choosing Thai women as long term girlfriends or wives is a viable proposition, or as the wise man says; buyer beware.

Probably just a sad sign of the times.

Edited November 15, 2012 by Beetlejuice

[lostintime]

Very sad.

Very sad indeed. But par for the course. Too bad he didn't learn about the connection between Thai girls, money and love before he came to Thailand. Thai girl + money = love. Money runs out = Thai girl runs out = no love.

RIP

you hang out with the wrong sort ,keep away from the bars and meet some ordinary Thai women, just like women the world over

hookers- money ,its their job.no one works for free

Probably anywhere else in the world you would be correct, but not in Thailand. It's the same risk no matter what the girls background. I lived there almost 20 years, but not anymore, so I do know a thing or two. There are good girls, maybe 2% at the best. I have known well educated women with good jobs who are just the same as the worst scheming bar girl.

The rule is if she is Thai believe nothing she tells you.

[Gweiloman]

Very sad.

Very sad indeed. But par for the course. Too bad he didn't learn about the connection between Thai girls, money and love before he came to Thailand. Thai girl + money = love. Money runs out = Thai girl runs out = no love.

RIP

I think you're the sad one.......

[Thai at Heart]

Normal Thai women under thirty do not get into bed with foreigners easily. If you love one such you will have to take your time to find out if she really is the girl for you. If you have fallen in love with the stranger that you slept with last spend you money have your fun and then go get another one. Never take such ladies to you own room period.

Nonsense - maybe they don't sleep with you but I assure you when I was young they did. What's this got to with anything anyway, albeit wrong?

Are you numb-nuts even real? What is a normal Thai girl? It appears from 90%+ of the posters to these forums comments about the trials of relationships with Thai women; the normal Thai girl must be a bar girl, karaoke hostess, booking girl, massage girl, short-time girl, street-walker girl, or whatever girl of negotiable virtue. Those Thai girls under thirty do get in bed with foreigners easily. It just takes money. It is so sad. How many of you have ever gone to dinner with a Thai girl you didn't barfine to get there? Very few, I'd wager. And, if I may, I'll tell you what that statement had to do with the issue. He is saying stay away from ladies of negotiable virtue and go with nice girls--normal girls. I'll bet some of you have been here 20 years and have never seen one.

Why would anyone take a girl they barfined for dinner. Now that really is a waste of time and money, plus it makes unnecessary washing up.

[Neeranam]

He should have listed to the song "One Night in Bankok", tells the story right there. Poor guy , beautiful have so much power over someone. There are plenty of fishes out there.

?? The song is about a Chess tournament

[Nisa]

Normal Thai women under thirty do not get into bed with foreigners easily. If you love one such you will have to take your time to find out if she really is the girl for you. If you have fallen in love with the stranger that you slept with last spend you money have your fun and then go get another one. Never take such ladies to you own room period.

Nonsense - maybe they don't sleep with you but I assure you when I was young they did. What's this got to with anything anyway, albeit wrong?

Are you numb-nuts even real? What is a normal Thai girl? It appears from 90%+ of the posters to these forums comments about the trials of relationships with Thai women; the normal Thai girl must be a bar girl, karaoke hostess, booking girl, massage girl, short-time girl, street-walker girl, or whatever girl of negotiable virtue. Those Thai girls under thirty do get in bed with foreigners easily. It just takes money. It is so sad. How many of you have ever gone to dinner with a Thai girl you didn't barfine to get there? Very few, I'd wager. And, if I may, I'll tell you what that statement had to do with the issue. He is saying stay away from ladies of negotiable virtue and go with nice girls--normal girls. I'll bet some of you have been here 20 years and have never seen one.

Why would anyone take a girl they barfined for dinner. Now that really is a waste of time and money, plus it makes unnecessary washing up.

Killing time waiting for the Viagra to kick in?

[philw]

Rather sad fellows ( was going to use a different adj.........) who don't believe that love exists.

Seems there are too many on here.

Sign of the times I suppose....................

[Thai at Heart]

Dinner obviously means the noodle stand in front of the bar.

[Thai at Heart]

Rather sad fellows ( was going to use a different adj.........) who don't believe that love exists.

Seems there are too many on here.

Sign of the times I suppose....................

If it is found under neon or ultra violet, let it go would be a good starting point. Anywhere

Edited November 15, 2012 by Thai at Heart

[Nisa]

While most of these girls chose their profession by way of their own circumstances and choices ... we should realize it is their experience and exposure to men that has resulted in their views of men and their screw before being screwed attitude. And I would think after time that people giving you money to be with you would cause some issues in terms of relating somebody with wanting or caring about you to what they are willing to pay you. Certainly not a slam at all men but just consider the men they are exposed to daily and you might understand how they might start to believe men cannot be trusted and are mostly selfish, cheating liars. Really not much different than guys who post here who believe Thai women are somehow genetically programmed different than other women and not able to love and only care about money ... they too have just been exposed to a segment of women that are causing them to believe things are true about the rest of women. Bottom line is if you spend your time with hookers anywhere, you are going to develop a different set of views about women.

[atyclb]

Very sad.

Very sad indeed. But par for the course. Too bad he didn't learn about the connection between Thai girls, money and love before he came to Thailand. Thai girl + money = love. Money runs out = Thai girl runs out = no love.

RIP

Unfortunately that equation seems so true - regardless of the background of the Thai lady. Boyfriends and husbands are providers. Loose the ability to provide for gf, wifey and family and its "bye bye farang". So sad - but seems the norm here.

Also happens to Thai guys, but I think not at such a high rate as farangs. I have first hand knowledge of this.

A country of peasants, cheating and corruption the norm, dismal education, money seen as paramount would produce such a society. There certainly good people also.

The above understandably creates an abundance females looking for money and farangs are a "soft target" I did some testing of dating sites. Profile A, cannot speak thai, new or not long living here. A lot more responses than Profile B; reasonable spoken and written language, very very few responses.

Once I wrote " Looking for attractive female to take care, condo, and car included" = many replies.

So what has wisdom taught me? Get a dog, a hobby or learn the language and get a non money seeking regular female friend.

[atyclb]

While most of these girls chose their profession by way of their own circumstances and choices ... we should realize it is their experience and exposure to men that has resulted in their views of men and their screw before being screwed attitude. And I would think after time that people giving you money to be with you would cause some issues in terms of relating somebody with wanting or caring about you to what they are willing to pay you. Certainly not a slam at all men but just consider the men they are exposed to daily and you might understand how they might start to believe men cannot be trusted and are mostly selfish, cheating liars. Really not much different than guys who post here who believe Thai women are somehow genetically programmed different than other women and not able to love and only care about money ... they too have just been exposed to a segment of women that are causing them to believe things are true about the rest of women. Bottom line is if you spend your time with hookers anywhere, you are going to develop a different set of views about women.

That is true but theres tons of "non hookers" also in the "soft target" game. Uni grads not excluded either. See post #112

Edited November 15, 2012 by atyclb

[daboyz1]

I guess the girl couldn't convince him into going out on the balcony so he could commit "suicide" the normal farang way in Thailand.

[Beetlejuice]

I guess the girl couldn't convince him into going out on the balcony so he could commit "suicide" the normal farang way in Thailand.

Not strictly correct.

Farangs in Thailand have commited suicide by beheading themselves, running themselves over with vehicles, stabbing themselves multiple times, throwing themselves out of high storie buildings, shooting themselves in the back while out and about or driving and of course not forgetting the old favourite, chemically poisoning themselves in hotels.

No farangs are ever murdered or have ever died from any negligent acts caused by others in Thailand. It`s been proven by the police.

I thought everyone knew that?

[Nisa]

Why is it so shocking to come to the realization that many women in a poor country that offers little opportunity for them to be financially independent would want to be with a financially successful man who provides for them? Is this unheard of in any country? Would all the overweight and over age farangs prefer if their main concern was body and looks? Oh wait, do you want them all to be like most of us men are and not care about looks, body type, age or anything else except if they have a good heart (minus the part of looking down on, distrusting and wanting to control the opposite sex) and of course not ever cheat with another women who poses qualities we desire?

A guy chooses to off himself and like most any topic that a Thai women is mentioned in the story, there seems to be those who have to find a way to generalize about Thai women negatively even though a good portion of these men are here because it is one of the few places to go where they can still hook up with young hot women and yet they still find a way to moan and groan and see the negative. Maybe it is just me but it seems the men complaining in this scenario that are the ones that need to address their own issues more so than pointing out the faults of women.

Edited November 15, 2012 by Nisa

[daboyz1]

^{One of my favorites:}

^{Foreign man found dead}

^{A foreign man was found hanging from an electric pole in a suspected suicide in Klong Toei district at about 6am yesterday, police said.}

^{Police rushed to the scene near the Sukhumvit-Rama IV expressway to find a body of an unidentified man. He was 1.8 metres tall, of fair-complexion with brown hair, wearing a black T-shirt, brown pants and black dress shoes, Lieutenant Kavipong Saengreung of Lumpini police station said.}

^{The man’s head was covered with a plastic bag tied with masking tape. He was found hanging by nylon rope from 25-metre-tall electric pole.}

^{“We suspect suicide, partly because Westerners usually kill themselves like this,” said Lumpini superintendent, Colonel Suphisarn Pakdinarunart.}

^{The policeman presumed that the man might be German because the plastic bag belonged to a German brand ‘Manner’. However, evidence including his fingerprints and photos would be sent to the country to establish who he was.}

^{The man was thought to have been dead for at least two hours, the officer said. A cigarette burn was found on his right palm, and he had Bt230 cash in his pocket. Three water bottles, one roll of masking tape and a plastic bag were found about two metres away. Police suspect the man may have bought these items in preparation to commit suicide.}

^{The man’s body was sent for an autopsy to determine the exact cause of death, police said. – The Nation}

^Source:

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[daboyz1]

Why is it so shocking to come to the realization that many women in a poor country that offers little opportunity for them to be financially independent would want to be with a financially successful man who provides for them? Is this unheard of in any country? Would all the overweight and over age farangs prefer if their main concern was body and looks? Oh wait, do you want them all to be like most of us men are and not care about looks, body type, age or anything else except if they have a good heart (minus the part of looking down on, distrusting and wanting to control the opposite sex) and of course not ever cheat with another women who poses qualities we desire?

A guy chooses to off himself and like most any topic that a Thai women is mentioned in the story, there seems to be those who have to find a way to generalize about Thai women negatively even though a good portion of these men are here because it is one of the few places to go where they can still hook up with young hot women and yet they still find a way to moan and groan and see the negative. Maybe it is just me but it seems the men complaining in this scenario that are the ones that need to address their own issues more so than pointing out the faults of women.

I'd love to see the statistics of foreigners jumping to their deaths in Pattaya, Bangkok, and Phuket, compared to other places in the world. Maybe it's just me, but it seems fairly common in those 3 places.

[rattler]

Very sad.

Very sad indeed. But par for the course. Too bad he didn't learn about the connection between Thai girls, money and love before he came to Thailand. Thai girl + money = love. Money runs out = Thai girl runs out = no love.

RIP

Unfortunately that equation seems so true - regardless of the background of the Thai lady. Boyfriends and husbands are providers. Loose the ability to provide for gf, wifey and family and its "bye bye farang". So sad - but seems the norm here.

Not the norm in all cases though, my Thai wife supports me and will be until I drop. I started her up in business which took off many years ago. Since then I have not spent 1 baht, She provides everything from her salary 250k a month.

[Nisa]

Why is it so shocking to come to the realization that many women in a poor country that offers little opportunity for them to be financially independent would want to be with a financially successful man who provides for them? Is this unheard of in any country? Would all the overweight and over age farangs prefer if their main concern was body and looks? Oh wait, do you want them all to be like most of us men are and not care about looks, body type, age or anything else except if they have a good heart (minus the part of looking down on, distrusting and wanting to control the opposite sex) and of course not ever cheat with another women who poses qualities we desire?

A guy chooses to off himself and like most any topic that a Thai women is mentioned in the story, there seems to be those who have to find a way to generalize about Thai women negatively even though a good portion of these men are here because it is one of the few places to go where they can still hook up with young hot women and yet they still find a way to moan and groan and see the negative. Maybe it is just me but it seems the men complaining in this scenario that are the ones that need to address their own issues more so than pointing out the faults of women.

I'd love to see the statistics of foreigners jumping to their deaths in Pattaya, Bangkok, and Phuket, compared to other places in the world. Maybe it's just me, but it seems fairly common in those 3 places.

No that this guy jumped but ...

Well, the stats you want are out there if you want to find them but can assure you neither Thailand nor these cities have the highest suicide rates and in fact western countries such as the US, Australia and many European nations have much higher rates of suicide ... including Russia (isn't this guy Russian?) which rates as having one of the highest suicide rates in the world. How about take a city like Las Vegas were for every 100,000 people, 35 off themselves yearly.

Please realize your news sources while in Thailand. They are geared to reporting anything of interest to fellow farangs. Have you seen many new stories re-posted here about Thai suicides even though any reasonable person would know their numbers far out weigh those of farangs. Yet, we will continue to see the never ending posts here whenever a farang dies that it must be a cover-up and whenever a farang commits a crime here it is a set-up ... we know this because farangs don't do these things back in their home country and Thailand is a country known for mostly only attracting the highest quality of tourists.

It is the same scenario of exposure ... if the only girls we interact with are hookers then we are going to need to remind ourselves that we can only speak generally about hookers and not apply hooker traits to all women.

Edited November 15, 2012 by Nisa

[daboyz1]

Why is it so shocking to come to the realization that many women in a poor country that offers little opportunity for them to be financially independent would want to be with a financially successful man who provides for them? Is this unheard of in any country? Would all the overweight and over age farangs prefer if their main concern was body and looks? Oh wait, do you want them all to be like most of us men are and not care about looks, body type, age or anything else except if they have a good heart (minus the part of looking down on, distrusting and wanting to control the opposite sex) and of course not ever cheat with another women who poses qualities we desire?

A guy chooses to off himself and like most any topic that a Thai women is mentioned in the story, there seems to be those who have to find a way to generalize about Thai women negatively even though a good portion of these men are here because it is one of the few places to go where they can still hook up with young hot women and yet they still find a way to moan and groan and see the negative. Maybe it is just me but it seems the men complaining in this scenario that are the ones that need to address their own issues more so than pointing out the faults of women.

I'd love to see the statistics of foreigners jumping to their deaths in Pattaya, Bangkok, and Phuket, compared to other places in the world. Maybe it's just me, but it seems fairly common in those 3 places.

So, now we move onto painting Thailand in a bad light because a guy decided to commit suicide and then go onto to talk about suicide number of jumpers in cities even though this guy didn't jump.

Well, the stats you want are out there if you want to find them but can assure you neither Thailand nor these cities have the highest suicide rates and in fact western countries such as the US, Australia and many European nations have much higher rates of suicide ... including Russia (isn't this guy Russian?) which rates as having one of the highest suicide rates in the world. How about take a city like Las Vegas were for every 100,000 people, 35 off themselves yearly.

Please get a grip and realize your news source while in Thailand that is geared to reporting anything of interest to fellow farangs. Have you seen many new stories re-posted here about Thai suicides even though any reasonable person would know their numbers far out weigh those of farangs. Yet, we will continue to see the never ending posts here whenever a farang dies that it must be a cover-up and whenever a farang commits a crime here it is a set-up ... we know this because farangs don't do these things back in their home country and Thailand is a country known for mostly only attracting the highest quality of tourists.

I have a grip thank you. I wonder how many Thais commit suicide in the U.S. Australia, Europe? Your missing my point totally. I live in Dallas. I lived in Thailand for a few years. While I lived in Thailand it seemed that western tourists were jumping to their deaths at a pretty high rate. Here if someone takes a leap, you hear about it as well. It's not even close to as common here as it is in Pattaya or Phuket, not to mention I never hear about Thais jumping in Thailand.

How many of the 35 in Vegas, or countless in Russia are leaping off of hotel balconies, or getting found hanging from a light pole with a bag taped over your head and the cops just say, "Ahh that's how foregners kill themselves"

I'm not painting Thailand in a bad light. The story is there for all to read, and everyone can draw their own conclusions. If people judge Thailand in a bad light due to some news stories, so be it.

I know the guy in my post didn't jump. Re-read my post. I can read. Can you?