What Is The Meaning Of Non-re Visa?

[jackfadd]

Hello all,

Can anyone here know what is NON-RE visa?

What does that mean?

Regards

Jack

[Artisan]

Hello all,

Can anyone here know what is NON-RE visa?

What does that mean?

Regards

Jack

Sorry, I've lived in Thailand for 13 years but I've never come across this visa. Coul it be a 'marriage' extension rather than a 'retirement' extension?

[jackfadd]

Hello all,

Can anyone here know what is NON-RE visa?

What does that mean?

Regards

Jack

Sorry, I've lived in Thailand for 13 years but I've never come across this visa. Coul it be a 'marriage' extension rather than a 'retirement' extension?

when i went for visa run the immigration police had put this.

iam having non-b visa.is it non-b visa?

jack

[lom]

Maybe Non-B Re-entry ?

[Artisan]

Maybe Non-B Re-entry ?

He wouldn't need a re-entry permit on a visa run.

[Maestro]

He wouldn't need a re-entry permit on a visa run.

The best would be if the original poster scanned what he says is a “NON-RE visa” that “immigration police” allegedly stamped in his passport when he did a “visa run”

To begin with, the term “visa run” is ambiguous because different people use it to mean different things. Technically, a visa run is the departure from and re-entry into Thailand by the holder of a visa allowing more than one entry into the country. Quite often, however, people use it to refer to a person who entered Thailand without a visa, i.e. with a 30-day stamp on arrival, then leaves Thailand and re-enters the country to obtain a new 30-day stamp on arrival. We do not know with which interpretation the original poster uses the term “visa run”

Next, the “immigration police” does not stamp a visa into a passport. This is done by Thai embassies and consulates, outside Thailand.

Next, the original poster does not say if the stamp he refers to was put by “immigration police” in his passport upon his departure from Thailand or his subsequent entry into Thailand.

In other words, anyone who wishes to continue to speculate on the meaning of the original post has three unknown factors to contend with. Have fun!

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Maestro

[Artisan]

He wouldn't need a re-entry permit on a visa run.

To begin with, the term “visa run” is ambiguous because different people use it to mean different things. Technically, a visa run is the departure from and re-entry into Thailand by the holder of a visa allowing more than one entry into the country. Quite often, however, people use it to refer to a person who entered Thailand without a visa, i.e. with a 30-day stamp on arrival, then leaves Thailand and re-enters the country to obtain a new 30-day stamp on arrival. We do not know with which interpretation the original poster uses the term “visa run”.

Maestro

Nevertheless, my original statement still stands.

[Maestro]

Nevertheless, my original statement still stands.

Of course, it does.

Although I read in another thread today in a post of Lopuri’s that even the holder of a tourist visa can obtain a re-entry permit if he wishes to leave the country and re-enter within the 60-day period stamped into his passport upon his previous entry. But then again, the re-entry permit would not be stamped into the passport by immigration police at the border. Whichever of the two different ways the original poster may have done a visa run, he would not have needed a re-entry permit.

An afterthought: for all we know, the original poster used “visa run” to mean something else, a third meaning so far known only to himself

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Maestro

[jackfadd]

Nevertheless, my original statement still stands.

Of course, it does.

Although I read in another thread today in a post of Lopuri’s that even the holder of a tourist visa can obtain a re-entry permit if he wishes to leave the country and re-enter within the 60-day period stamped into his passport upon his previous entry. But then again, the re-entry permit would not be stamped into the passport by immigration police at the border. Whichever of the two different ways the original poster may have done a visa run, he would not have needed a re-entry permit.

An afterthought: for all we know, the original poster used “visa run” to mean something else, a third meaning so far known only to himself

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Maestro

Ok let me explain you guys what i meant.

I was under the impression that i got ONE YEAR NON-B visa from the thai embassy in my country.

On my visa stamp i saw visa number,enter before,paid amount,type,date of visa etc.....

but no expiry date was there on it.

Ok whatever.....

I reached thailand on 22nd august.

I got my first 90 days stamp from the aiport and second time i went to cambodia(first time to cambodia ) for my next 90 days.

Since i was of the view that i got one full year NON-B i went second time to cambodia for the next 90 days but the immigration didnt notice my visa was expired but i got the validity to stay in thailand until 15th thy just chopped departure stamp on my passport and i went to cambodia .

when i returned back from cambodia the same day the thai police denied permission for me to enter thailand since my visa is expired so they asked me to get a reentry permit and i got it by paying 1600 batts

there they gave me the reentry permit and on the side they chopped a routine entry permit with the validity to stay till 15th and on the VISA TYPE the officer has written NON-RE .

This is the full story Hope this will clear all the doubts.

Jack

[Maestro]

Ok let me explain you guys what i meant.

I was under the impression that i got ONE YEAR NON-B visa from the thai embassy in my country.

On my visa stamp i saw visa number,enter before,paid amount,type,date of visa etc.....

but no expiry date was there on it.

I reached thailand on 22nd august.

I got my first 90 days stamp from the aiport and second time i went to cambodia(first time to cambodia ) for my next 90 days.

Since i was of the view that i got one full year NON-B i went second time to cambodia for the next 90 days but the immigration didnt notice my visa was expired but i got the validity to stay in thailand until 15th thy just chopped departure stamp on my passport and i went to cambodia .

when i returned back from cambodia the same day the thai police denied permission for me to enter thailand since my visa is expired so they asked me to get a reentry permit and i got it by paying 1600 batts

there they gave me the reentry permit and on the side they chopped a routine entry permit with the validity to stay till 15th and on the VISA TYPE the officer has written NON-RE .

This is the full story Hope this will clear all the doubts.

Thank you for the additional information. I am still confused, but less so now.

That “enter before…” date would be the date by which you could make your last entry into Thailand with that visa.

You have given us two dates:

22 Aug. 2005: First entry into Thailand

15 Feb. 2006: admitted until… on your last entry.

Now, let me do the mathematics, and the guessing:

On 22. Aug. 2005 you were admitted until 19.11.2005

I guess that your visa was valid for two entries and that it was valid (enter before date) for 6 months, or that it was valid for multiple (unlimited) entries and valid for 6 months. I do not know about multiple-entry non-B visas but I always understood that multiple non-O visas are valid for one year.

I guess that you made your first visa run, i.e. your second entry into Thailand on 18. Nov. 2005 and were admitted until 15 Feb. 2006.

I guess that you made the second visa run, i.e. went to Cambodia on 13. Feb. 2006. The fact that upon your departure the Immigration official did not check the validity of your visa and just put the exit stamp in your passport is not unusual; he could not know that you meant to return on that same visa.

On the same day, you re-enter Thailand and this time it is the Immigration official’s duty to check your visa, he sees that it is expired and refuses entry. You explain matters to him, he takes pity on you and gives you a re-entry permit on the spot. This gave you admission into Thailand until the expiration of that previous entry stamp you got on 18. Nov. 2005, i.e. until 15. Feb. 2006.

So it is a re-entry permit after all, that mysterious NON-RE visa. I never heard that the Immigration official at the border point can issue it, but apparently they can, in an exceptional circumstance like yours.

But now you have to leave tomorrow, to get a new visa from a Thai consulate somewhere, it seems. Little time left.

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Maestro

You have given us two dates:

22 Aug. 2005: First entry into Thailand

15 Feb. 2006: admitted until… on your last entry.

Actually, that 15 Feb. 2006 is also only a guess: you mentioned only “the 15th” and I assumed you meant the 15th day of the current month.

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Maestro

[jackfadd]

Ok let me explain you guys what i meant.

I was under the impression that i got ONE YEAR NON-B visa from the thai embassy in my country.

On my visa stamp i saw visa number,enter before,paid amount,type,date of visa etc.....

but no expiry date was there on it.

I reached thailand on 22nd august.

I got my first 90 days stamp from the aiport and second time i went to cambodia(first time to cambodia ) for my next 90 days.

Since i was of the view that i got one full year NON-B i went second time to cambodia for the next 90 days but the immigration didnt notice my visa was expired but i got the validity to stay in thailand until 15th thy just chopped departure stamp on my passport and i went to cambodia .

when i returned back from cambodia the same day the thai police denied permission for me to enter thailand since my visa is expired so they asked me to get a reentry permit and i got it by paying 1600 batts

there they gave me the reentry permit and on the side they chopped a routine entry permit with the validity to stay till 15th and on the VISA TYPE the officer has written NON-RE .

This is the full story Hope this will clear all the doubts.

Thank you for the additional information. I am still confused, but less so now.

That “enter before…” date would be the date by which you could make your last entry into Thailand with that visa.

You have given us two dates:

22 Aug. 2005: First entry into Thailand

15 Feb. 2006: admitted until… on your last entry.

Now, let me do the mathematics, and the guessing:

On 22. Aug. 2005 you were admitted until 19.11.2005

I guess that your visa was valid for two entries and that it was valid (enter before date) for 6 months, or that it was valid for multiple (unlimited) entries and valid for 6 months. I do not know about multiple-entry non-B visas but I always understood that multiple non-O visas are valid for one year.

I guess that you made your first visa run, i.e. your second entry into Thailand on 18. Nov. 2005 and were admitted until 15 Feb. 2006.

I guess that you made the second visa run, i.e. went to Cambodia on 13. Feb. 2006. The fact that upon your departure the Immigration official did not check the validity of your visa and just put the exit stamp in your passport is not unusual; he could not know that you meant to return on that same visa.

On the same day, you re-enter Thailand and this time it is the Immigration official’s duty to check your visa, he sees that it is expired and refuses entry. You explain matters to him, he takes pity on you and gives you a re-entry permit on the spot. This gave you admission into Thailand until the expiration of that previous entry stamp you got on 18. Nov. 2005, i.e. until 15. Feb. 2006.

So it is a re-entry permit after all, that mysterious NON-RE visa. I never heard that the Immigration official at the border point can issue it, but apparently they can, in an exceptional circumstance like yours.

But now you have to leave tomorrow, to get a new visa from a Thai consulate somewhere, it seems. Little time left.

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Maestro

You have given us two dates:

22 Aug. 2005: First entry into Thailand

15 Feb. 2006: admitted until… on your last entry.

Actually, that 15 Feb. 2006 is also only a guess: you mentioned only “the 15th” and I assumed you meant the 15th day of the current month.

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Maestro

Yes boss, u r absolutely rt.

This is what has happened.

Ok now can i enter thailand with a new non b visa?

Will they reject me because of that NON-RE?

Iam leaving thai by today night infact now iam in airport.

Jack.

[Maestro]

The alternative for the Immigration official would have been to give you a 30-stamp on arrival (admitted until 14 March 2006), in which case you would not have needed to buy the NON-RE.

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Maestro

[jackfadd]

Ok now can i enter thailand with a new non b visa?

Will they reject me because of that NON-RE?

Iam leaving thai by today night infact now iam in airport.

Jack.

[Maestro]

This is what has happened.

Ok now can i enter thailand with a new non b visa?

Will they reject me because of that NON-RE?

Iam leaving thai by today night infact now iam in airport.

I don’t see why they should. You have not overstayed. Your last entered Thailand perfectly legally, with a re-entry permit, something you could have obtained also at Suan Plu (with a different stamp)

Some consulates have been reported to be difficult in general. Lopuri says that Penang is the best choice; hope that’s where you’re going.

Good luck!

Oh, and my admiration for keeping your calm despite the stressful situation. I understand now why your first post was rather short and appreciate your having updated us. Report back when you get back with your new visa, please.

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Maestro

Edited February 14, 2006 by maestro

[jackfadd]

Thank you very much.

Iam fully releived now.

Iam going to my own country from there i will apply for a new non b visa.

jack