Red-Shirts To Push For Amnesty Law: Thailand

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[Maestro]

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[hellodolly]

No new team of red shirts leaders : Nuttawut

BANGKOK: -- A red shirt leader on Monday dismissed as groundless a claim by an outspoken general that ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra appointed new team of red shirts leaders.

Nuttawut Saikua said Maj Gen Kattiya Sawasdipol maybe misinformed or misunderstood that Thaksin was not happy with the existing red shirt leaders who Kattiya said were changing their position to a compromising one in their talks with Abhisit government.

"Seh Daeng's report is not correct. Maybe he is misinformed," Nuttawut said.

Kattiya claimed Monday that he talked to Thaksin on a phone on Sunday. "Thaksin said he would appoint of new team of the red shirts leaders."

The new team would exclude Veera Musikapong, Jatuporn Prompan, Dr weng Tohjirakarn and Nuttawut Saikua as they appeared to agree with Abhisit's roadmap and prefer to end the rally.

The group had several secret meeting with Abhisit's team, Kattiya said.

Nuttawut told reporters that even Thaksin has no authority to change the leaders' team.

Each of the new team claimed by Seh Daeng has not yet been contacted about the matter, Nuttawut said.

Kattiya quoted Thaksin as saying that those who did not want to fight on should go home.

The new team comprises Arisamun Pongruengrong, Suporn Attawong, Kwanchai Praipana, Waipot Apornrat.

-- The Nation 2010-05-10

But from what I have read on TV from you & the other regular red haters, TS was the 'big boss'. He funded the whole thing & called the shots. Therefore if this report is to be given any credence, why didn't the leadership change? Even if Seh Daeng was gone the others quoted could have done it & he could have simply paid another 'terrorist' to do the dirty work.

So Seh Daeng, was just a pathological liar, to go with his egomania and sociopath disorders. And yet, a great mate of Thaksin, and a much admired leader of the red shirts.

makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Not him he continues to idolize.

The leadership never changed because Thaksin continued to fund it.

If he sticks around he might learn some thing but I doubt it.

Lesson no.1

The Nation is not a reliable source

[waza]

No new team of red shirts leaders : Nuttawut

BANGKOK: -- A red shirt leader on Monday dismissed as groundless a claim by an outspoken general that ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra appointed new team of red shirts leaders.

Nuttawut Saikua said Maj Gen Kattiya Sawasdipol maybe misinformed or misunderstood that Thaksin was not happy with the existing red shirt leaders who Kattiya said were changing their position to a compromising one in their talks with Abhisit government.

"Seh Daeng's report is not correct. Maybe he is misinformed," Nuttawut said.

Kattiya claimed Monday that he talked to Thaksin on a phone on Sunday. "Thaksin said he would appoint of new team of the red shirts leaders."

The new team would exclude Veera Musikapong, Jatuporn Prompan, Dr weng Tohjirakarn and Nuttawut Saikua as they appeared to agree with Abhisit's roadmap and prefer to end the rally.

The group had several secret meeting with Abhisit's team, Kattiya said.

Nuttawut told reporters that even Thaksin has no authority to change the leaders' team.

Each of the new team claimed by Seh Daeng has not yet been contacted about the matter, Nuttawut said.

Kattiya quoted Thaksin as saying that those who did not want to fight on should go home.

The new team comprises Arisamun Pongruengrong, Suporn Attawong, Kwanchai Praipana, Waipot Apornrat.

-- The Nation 2010-05-10

But from what I have read on TV from you & the other regular red haters, TS was the 'big boss'. He funded the whole thing & called the shots. Therefore if this report is to be given any credence, why didn't the leadership change? Even if Seh Daeng was gone the others quoted could have done it & he could have simply paid another 'terrorist' to do the dirty work.

So Seh Daeng, was just a pathological liar, to go with his egomania and sociopath disorders. And yet, a great mate of Thaksin, and a much admired leader of the red shirts.

makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Not him he continues to idolize.

The leadership never changed because Thaksin continued to fund it.

If he sticks around he might learn some thing but I doubt it.

Lesson no.1

The Nation is not a reliable source

I guess the proof of the pudding is who got a place at the trough.

[Buchholz]

The red-shirt movement yesterday unveiled its New Year plan to push for the amnesty law and amendment of the Constitution to bring justice to its members who struggled for democracy, leader Thida Thavornseth said

Pheu Thai Party MP and red-shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn said the group would push for the amnesty law for the red shirts.

This afternoon, In an apparent change of tactics, instead of an amnesty law, the Red Shirts demanded that an Executive Decree be issued by Prime Minister Yingluck to give amnesty for those with criminal offenses occurring between January 1, 2007 and December 31, 2011.

They have proposed their own draft of the desired Executive Decree and covers those that have been already been sentenced to jail as well as for those with still pending cases.

It was read out today by Red Shirt Shirt Leader Thida, who was accompanied by Pheu Thai Party MP/Deputy Commerce Minister/Red Shirt Leader Natthawut and former Pheu Thai Party MP/Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn, and Pheu Thai Party MP/Red Shirt Leader Korkaew.

Afterwards, Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn said he will attempt to get an appointment with YIngluck to hand deliver their proposed Executive Decree for her to approve.

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Edited January 15, 2013 by Buchholz

[whybother]

The red-shirt movement yesterday unveiled its New Year plan to push for the amnesty law and amendment of the Constitution to bring justice to its members who struggled for democracy, leader Thida Thavornseth said

Pheu Thai Party MP and red-shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn said the group would push for the amnesty law for the red shirts.

This afternoon, In an apparent change of tactics, instead of an amnesty law, the Red Shirts demanded that an Executive Decree be issued by Prime Minister Yingluck to give amnesty for those with criminal offenses occurring between January 1, 2007 and December 31, 2011.

They have proposed their own draft of the desired Executive Decree and covers those that have been already been sentenced to jail as well as for those with still pending cases.

It was read out today by Red Shirt Shirt Leader Thida, who was accompanied by Pheu Thai Party MP/Deputy Commerce Minister/Red Shirt Leader Natthawut and former Pheu Thai Party MP/Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn, and Pheu Thai Party MP/Red Shirt Leader Korkaew.

Afterwards, Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn said he will attempt to get an appointment with YIngluck to hand deliver their proposed Executive Decree for her to approve.

I can guarantee that that won't happen. Most of Thaksin's crimes were pre 2007. There won't be an amnesty law if Thaksin isn't included.

to add: Interesting that they say that this only includes "those that had not taken part in any decision making process". That would mean that the red leaders are excluded too.

Edited January 15, 2013 by whybother

[otherstuff1957]

This afternoon, In an apparent change of tactics, instead of an amnesty law, the Red Shirts demanded that an Executive Decree be issued by Prime Minister Yingluck to give amnesty for those with criminal offenses occurring between January 1, 2007 and December 31, 2011.

Afterwards, Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn said he will attempt to get an appointment with YIngluck to hand deliver their proposed Executive Decree for her to approve.

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All offences from 2007 to 2011??? Does this mean I'll get that 200baht I had to pay for turning the wrong direction on Sukhumvit in 2009 back?

[Buchholz]

All offences from 2007 to 2011??? Does this mean I'll get that 200baht I had to pay for turning the wrong direction on Sukhumvit in 2009 back?

Did you happen to be wearing a red shirt when the criminal offense occurred?

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[scorecard]

All offences from 2007 to 2011??? Does this mean I'll get that 200baht I had to pay for turning the wrong direction on Sukhumvit in 2009 back?

Did you happen to be wearing a red shirt when the criminal offense occurred?

Well hope you were wearing a red shirt and you have photo proof, you could even get several million Baht compensation.

[endure]

A post making serious criminal libelous allegations has been removed. Be careful what you post please.

[whybother]

Red shirts rally at prison

BANGKOK: -- Around 300 members of the red-shirt United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship held a rally Tuesday at the Lak Si Special Detention Centre, and donated four sets of exercise equipment to the inmates.

UDD leader Thida Thawornset led the group of 300 to make the donation of treadmills, stationary cycles and other exercise equipment.

They also read a statement on their proposal to draft an amnesty decree comprising four articles to release those who have been convicted and those who are accused of crimes in connection to the political conflicts and rallies that took place from January 1, 1997 to December 31, 2001.

The draft has stated that those who have been convicted and sentenced by the highest court or under trial are regarded as innocent and bear no responsibility, excluding authorities who made the decisions or issued orders related to political activities during the period.

-- The Nation 2013-01-15

"from January 1, 1997 to December 31, 2001" ... Someone needs a calculator to subtract 543.

[rubl]

The red-shirt movement yesterday unveiled its New Year plan to push for the amnesty law and amendment of the Constitution to bring justice to its members who struggled for democracy, leader Thida Thavornseth said yesterday.

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Pheu Thai Party MP and red-shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn said the group would push for the amnesty law for the red shirts. He also called on the Foreign Ministry to champion the ratification of the Rome Statute to enable the International Criminal Court to try cases of the red shirts.

Amnesty for all deserving people. Obviously that excludes all non-red-shirts. I'm not even sure why I bother to mention this obvious fact.

PS just read the topic, but not any of the comments. Some people have to work, you know

[Buchholz]

The red-shirt movement yesterday unveiled its New Year plan to push for the amnesty law and amendment of the Constitution to bring justice to its members who struggled for democracy, leader Thida Thavornseth said

Pheu Thai Party MP and red-shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn said the group would push for the amnesty law for the red shirts.

This afternoon, In an apparent change of tactics, instead of an amnesty law, the Red Shirts demanded that an Executive Decree be issued by Prime Minister Yingluck to give amnesty for those with criminal offenses occurring between January 1, 2007 and December 31, 2011.

They have proposed their own draft of the desired Executive Decree and covers those that have been already been sentenced to jail as well as for those with still pending cases.

It was read out today by Red Shirt Shirt Leader Thida, who was accompanied by Pheu Thai Party MP/Deputy Commerce Minister/Red Shirt Leader Natthawut and former Pheu Thai Party MP/Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn, and Pheu Thai Party MP/Red Shirt Leader Korkaew.

Afterwards, Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn said he will attempt to get an appointment with YIngluck to hand deliver their proposed Executive Decree for her to approve.

The Red Shirts have now announced plans to hold a rally on January 29th, with up to 10,000 protesters, in order to demand the government grant amnesty to their members, to release all "political prisoners", and to provide monetary compensation to those acquitted of their criminal charges.

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[Pimay1]

The red-shirt movement yesterday unveiled its New Year plan to push for the amnesty law and amendment of the Constitution to bring justice to its members who struggled for democracy, leader Thida Thavornseth said

Pheu Thai Party MP and red-shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn said the group would push for the amnesty law for the red shirts.

This afternoon, In an apparent change of tactics, instead of an amnesty law, the Red Shirts demanded that an Executive Decree be issued by Prime Minister Yingluck to give amnesty for those with criminal offenses occurring between January 1, 2007 and December 31, 2011.

They have proposed their own draft of the desired Executive Decree and covers those that have been already been sentenced to jail as well as for those with still pending cases.

It was read out today by Red Shirt Shirt Leader Thida, who was accompanied by Pheu Thai Party MP/Deputy Commerce Minister/Red Shirt Leader Natthawut and former Pheu Thai Party MP/Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn, and Pheu Thai Party MP/Red Shirt Leader Korkaew.

Afterwards, Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn said he will attempt to get an appointment with YIngluck to hand deliver their proposed Executive Decree for her to approve.

The Red Shirts have now announced plans to hold a rally on January 29th, with up to 10,000 protesters, in order to demand the government grant amnesty to their members, to release all "political prisoners", and to provide monetary compensation to those acquitted of their criminal charges.

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Thailand hub of red shirt protests wanting compensation for breaking the law.

[OzMick]

The red-shirt movement yesterday unveiled its New Year plan to push for the amnesty law and amendment of the Constitution to bring justice to its members who struggled for democracy, leader Thida Thavornseth said

Pheu Thai Party MP and red-shirt leader Weng Tojirakarn said the group would push for the amnesty law for the red shirts.

This afternoon, In an apparent change of tactics, instead of an amnesty law, the Red Shirts demanded that an Executive Decree be issued by Prime Minister Yingluck to give amnesty for those with criminal offenses occurring between January 1, 2007 and December 31, 2011.

They have proposed their own draft of the desired Executive Decree and covers those that have been already been sentenced to jail as well as for those with still pending cases.

It was read out today by Red Shirt Shirt Leader Thida, who was accompanied by Pheu Thai Party MP/Deputy Commerce Minister/Red Shirt Leader Natthawut and former Pheu Thai Party MP/Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn, and Pheu Thai Party MP/Red Shirt Leader Korkaew.

Afterwards, Red Shirt Leader Jatuporn said he will attempt to get an appointment with YIngluck to hand deliver their proposed Executive Decree for her to approve.

The Red Shirts have now announced plans to hold a rally on January 29th, with up to 10,000 protesters, in order to demand the government grant amnesty to their members, to release all "political prisoners", and to provide monetary compensation to those acquitted of their criminal charges.

I suppose that would make it necessary for them to publish a membership list to prevent the inclusion of "fake red shirts".