True Move Internet

[redtail]

does anyone know about the true move internet.. my girlfriend as been to sort it ou and they will come to fit cable to house and all i know is it is 599 bahts a month ,,, just been informed its ,,, it call ultra hi - speed 10 mbps 599 bath a month but she not sure if she will get router/modem ,,, would be grateful for anymore info ,,,

[giddyup]

True internet includes supplying the modem.

[lopburi3]

The web site is only in Thai but free wi-fi router is listed.

http://trueonline.tr...เà¸"ือน

[Pib]

Since you mention it's a cable internet connection like cable TV, yes, it will come with a cable router/modem provided by True as cable modems are different technology from ADSL modems. Now as to whether you will get only a modem or a combo Wifi router/modem that depends on the promotion. However, I expect it will be free Wifi router/modem based on what I seen with their recent promotions like shown below and since most people want to use a Wifi connection versus an ethernet/hardwire connection to their devices/computers/smartphones.

But note: it will be a loan of the Wifi router...that is, you will have to turn it back in when cancelling the account....a little different from some of the cheap ADSL Wifi routers which you can keep when canceling an account.

[Yme]

There's a promotion of 15Mbps cable internet and 72 mostly useless - unless you understand Thai - TV channels for Bt899/mth at the moment. Includes loan wi-fi Cisco router. Security deposit of Bt1,000 required for the set-top box and router.

[Pib]

If you don't need cable TV or already have another TV package, just getting the True DOCSIS/cable 14MB/1.4Mb internet plan for B699/month is hard to beat...gives the most bang per baht compared to the other True DOCSIS/cable plans. I've been using it for several months now here in western Bangkok...works like a charm....works as good but a lot cheaper than the True DOCSIS 20Mb/2Mb plan I was on for over a year and also worked fine....when I first signed up for the 20Mb plan the 14Mb didn't exist.

[giddyup]

Since you mention it's a cable internet connection like cable TV, yes, it will come with a cable router/modem provided by True as cable modems are different technology from ADSL modems. Now as to whether you will get only a modem or a combo Wifi router/modem that depends on the promotion. However, I expect it will be free Wifi router/modem based on what I seen with their recent promotions like shown below and since most people want to use a Wifi connection versus an ethernet/hardwire connection to their devices/computers/smartphones.

But note: it will be a loan of the Wifi router...that is, you will have to turn it back in when cancelling the account....a little different from some of the cheap ADSL Wifi routers which you can keep when canceling an account.

After 12 months you own the router, no need to return it.

[Pib]

Since you mention it's a cable internet connection like cable TV, yes, it will come with a cable router/modem provided by True as cable modems are different technology from ADSL modems. Now as to whether you will get only a modem or a combo Wifi router/modem that depends on the promotion. However, I expect it will be free Wifi router/modem based on what I seen with their recent promotions like shown below and since most people want to use a Wifi connection versus an ethernet/hardwire connection to their devices/computers/smartphones.

But note: it will be a loan of the Wifi router...that is, you will have to turn it back in when cancelling the account....a little different from some of the cheap ADSL Wifi routers which you can keep when canceling an account.

After 12 months you own the router, no need to return it.

As mentioned it's that way for some modems/routers especially ADSL modems issued for the lower speed plans, but some ISPs are now just "loaning" them so to say...just as indicated in the Post 4 image. The ISP expects them back when closing the account....but I do expect if you had an account for several years and the ISP was no longer using the modem/router they originally issued to you that they wouldn't ask for it back.

[wpcoe]

The pleasant surprise I found when I switched (from 3BB ADSL) to True Cable (DOCSIS) internet is that True seems to "overallocate" the speed. I have the B899 package mentioned above with the free 72 cable channels which advertises 15Mbps speed, but speed tests (to BKK, of course) routinely range from 20 to 25Mbps and actual throughput when downloading torrents is often above 15Mbps:

2.4MBps x 8bits/byte = 19.2Mbps actual sustained download speed.

[Edited to add:] Forgot to mention, that for the extra B100, I would recommend the Bt699/month package for 3x the upload speed.

[Pib]

Yes, several months ago apparently True implemented "bursting" on its DOCSIS/cable network. There is a semi-recent separate thread or a series of posts on this. Apparently the bursting can last at least 15-30 seconds which starting an operation (like loading a new web page, downloading files, etc) which can really speed things up like in browsing/emailing/downloading smaller files. I was on the DOCSIS 20Mb/2Mb plan for over a year (very reliable and fast) for B1299/month and it provided approx 21.4Mb/2.4Mb in speedtests to in-Thailand servers...but when the 14Mb/1.4Mb plan came out for B699/month I switched to that. Shortly after switching to that True implemented the bursting capability on their DOCSIS and I can frequently get speedtest results of around 28Mb/1.4Mb (yeap, up to double the plan's advertised download speed)...the bursting is on the download and not on the upload.

I only switched from the 20Mb plan to the 14Mb plan due the big cost savings and the fact there is very little difference between the "international" speed you get whether you are on the 10, 14, 15, 20, 50Mb....etc plans. Yeap, that international speed bottleneck. Now, the international speed compared to the "in-Thailand" (i.e., advertised plan speed) speed is going to be in the 2-6Mb "real world" speedtest results ballpark depending on where you are testing to, the speedtesting site being used, etc. And since my main use is browsing/emailing/youtubing/some live video streaming (very little torrent) which uses single-threaded operations, there is little to no speed difference to the eyeball/general usage of the internet. However, but, multi-threaded operations like used in torrent and download manager programs can reach international speeds approaching the plan's advertised in-Thailand speed.

Yeap, based on my DOCSIS True experience over the 20 months or so it has been very reliable and fast....night and day...and even during the late 2011 flood when my moobaan had approx a meter of water in its sois for almost a month the DOCSIS (or cable TV) never went down. Your results may (probably will) vary.

[wpcoe]

I've been debating starting a thread on this, but since we have Pib's ear now....

What's the deal with using the True proxy? (proxy.trueinternet.co.th::8080) Sometimes I can't surf the net WITH it, and (more times) can't surf WITHOUT it.

Predictably if I'm loading a well-known web site and my browser stalls, I will try reloading the page twice. If that doesn't work, I go into browser settings and enable/disable the proxy (i.e. set it to the opposite way it currently is set), then reload the page and BAM! it works full speed. This may happen once or twice a day?

[Pib]

Wish I could tell you why using one of True's proxys, the one you mentioned above or "proxy.asianet.co.th" port 8080 seems to make a very significant difference for many True customers--like me over here in western Bangkok. When I first started with True DOCSIS around 20 months ago I found using the proxy setting helped in how fast many web sites loaded, especially international web sites and it also helped in being able to access certain web sites. The web sites still loaded without the proxy turned on...it just some websites loaded significantly faster with the proxy turned on.

And for a while I couldn't reach a couple of U.S. govt web sites unless I had the proxy turned on or used VPN. And it didn't matter what DNS service I was using...True, Google, OpenDNS, etc. But around the beginning of 2012 the problem of accessing those U.S. govt web sites just went away. Then I noticed web surfing speed seemed to be identical with or without the proxy turned on; so, probably for 6 months or more I stopped using the proxy setting. But it seems over the last several months I back to getting faster website surfing with the proxy turned on....so I have just left it turned on all the time.

And regarding the surfing/posting of ThaiVisa, that has always worked significantly better for me with the proxy turned on like when PreViewing a post you are writing or just jumping between different threads....with the proxy turned on ThaiVisa pages respond fast...with the proxy turned off many pages respond slowly many times....by slowly I mean nothing may happen for 5 seconds then the page starts loading....with the proxy tuned on the pages loaded almost immediately. Getting to the ThaiVisa home page seems to be almost identicial with or without the proxy turned on; it's just moving among the Forum threads and PreViewing posts is noticeably faster (very) with the proxy turned on...and usually I do not have to reload the PreView page with proxy turned on to get a good Preview. ThaiVisa just reacts differently than all the other web sites I visit.

It only takes a few seconds to turn the proxy on or off....or switch into VPN mode (I use StrongVPN) so switching around when needed is not much of a issue. Plus, as mentioned, now days I'm back to just leaving the proxy turned on all the time.

[wpcoe]

Thanks. Misery loves company, and all. :-)

The whole idea of using a True internet proxy on a True internet line confuses me. I'm aware of the basic concept of a proxy. But, what puzzles me is: If I don't use a True proxy on a True internet line, how exactly is my internet traffic being routed? Usually a proxy is used as an alternative route. How can True be an alternate route to True? <shrug>

Anyway, I will continue to flip the True proxy on/off as needed. I just checked: It takes eight clicks in Opera. Only a "minor PITA."

[Pib]

I also just entered the True proxy setting into by Android tablet...ThaiVisa much more responsive with the proxy turned on.

[INV]

do I need true kabel tv to get the internet?

[redtail]

gf could not get true at her aparment the only other option is the promotion by 3 bb,,,,http://www.3bb.co.th/product/product_detail.php?id=2084〈=th 10mb for 590 is this any better than mobile broadband looks like most is free instalation is that a phone cable to her apartment would like some help

[Supertuktuk]

I tried to get True move ADSL in my house but they were asking for WP somebody else had this problem ?

[lopburi3]

Yes. I have always had to have Thai obtain True service.

[varun]

On the 599 baht/month package myself, and it's not too bad.

Torrent downloads can get upto 1 mb/s (usually between 300-800 kb/s), and opening websites such as Youtube is fairly snappy.

I'd say go for it, but I've been hearing good things about DOCSIS, so if your area supports it, take that option

[ThaidDown]

I tried to get True move ADSL in my house but they were asking for WP somebody else had this problem ?

Have not used True ASDL but have had True Visions for many years and True DOCSIS 14/1.4 for around year and a half. Both in my name, no work permit and only passport copy required. No additional or advanced payments needed.

For me, pretty good service, especially with 'surge' or 'burst'. Well seeded torrents or use of download manager can easily get above 1MB/sec.

[shinaku]

Maybe one of you can help me with my internet problem. I'm staying here at a relatives house (who knows very little about internet) by Sukhumvit 71 and I currently have True ADSL 13Mbps plan but I can only get 5bps at most. I'm looking into the cable modem but I'm afraid that it's also going to be as problematic as the adsl. Is this typical of what I can expect the speed here in bangkok (or in Thailand)? I also have internet at Chon Buri with ToT and 3BB, and I also can only get around 5Mbps.

[Pib]

Maybe one of you can help me with my internet problem. I'm staying here at a relatives house (who knows very little about internet) by Sukhumvit 71 and I currently have True ADSL 13Mbps plan but I can only get 5bps at most. I'm looking into the cable modem but I'm afraid that it's also going to be as problematic as the adsl. Is this typical of what I can expect the speed here in bangkok (or in Thailand)? I also have internet at Chon Buri with ToT and 3BB, and I also can only get around 5Mbps.

It does seem to happen a lot, especially on ADSL/phone lines...usually due to a funky/corroded connection somewhere.

If you are only getting 5Mb to local websites on a 13Mb plan then there is a definite problem. Now if you are getting 5Mb to international website on a 13Mb plan (or really any plan speed) then that's a good international speed considering Thai ISPs apparently throttle/limit international download speeds/bandwidth for single-thread operations like browsing and emailing. 2-6Mb speed to international web sites is what you will get in real world to most international websites from Thailand. Now if using a download manager/torrent program which can do multiple-streams then you can possibly get up to 13Mb speed on a 13Mb plan.

When doing speedtests be sure to use a Java-based speedtester versus a Flash/OOKLA-based speed tester (like speedtest.net) which can be easily fooled on download speed/ping time due to local cache servers...they can be fooled to the point of getting 13Mb speed to most any server on Earth and a faster-than-light ping time....like that far off server is just across the soi....when in fact the local cache server fooling the Flash-based speedtester may be across the soi.

[lopburi3]

You do mean 5Mbps rather than 5bps I hope. I have a 10 line but can not connect above 6 and even then lose it every time the phone rings. Taking a look at the lines blowing in the wind and going every which way may give you an idea of the quality to expect. Many lines are just not up to standards and often too great a distance to travel for the best quality.

[shinaku]

I mainly use the net tp download US shows rather with torrents or currently reverted to irc. Even using True's own speedtest, its getting way below advertised speed. They keep telling us that the network is being worked on or that a lot of people are using it.