webfact Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Lee Chestnutt free to leave Thailand after dispute BANGKOK: -- A man stuck in Thailand after a legal dispute lasting three years has been told he can now leave the country. newsjsLee Chestnutt, of Pilling, Lancashire, was accused of criminal damage and stealing furniture by the landlord of a property he rented in Bangkok. He was told the case had been resolved before Christmas, but the landlord said he would appeal the decision and his visa was blocked. His mother, Pat, said the appeal was not filed in time and he could go home. Full story: http://www.bbc.co.uk...ashire-21429943 -- BBC 2013-02-13 RELATED Singaporean can leave Thailand after 3-year legal tangle ends http://www.thaivisa....al-tangle-ends/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Glad to hear that this is now apparently closed. Clearly the landlord was trying it on by missing the legal deadline for the appeal, [after all he could hardly plead ignorance of the process could he?] and one must congratulate the appropriate authorities for seeing that and not permitting the [second] appeal to go forward. I hope this is also the case for his partner from Singapore if I remember correctly. Regards 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angsta Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 And this was covered by the BBC? <deleted>?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PB1 Posted February 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2013 This has been on the news programes for some time in North West England. They have been following the story, not good for tourism in Thailand. They reckon the landlord was a homophobic con man thinking he could get some quick easy money but he had to continue in the face of overwhelming odds against him because he didn't want to look bad. Artical sends out a clear warning for foriegners to be careful in Thailand. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Let's see if they can actually leave. They may face overstay problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thai at Heart Posted February 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2013 Well, that's one farce off the legal books 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgore Trout Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Glad to hear that this is now apparently closed. Clearly the landlord was trying it on by missing the legal deadline for the appeal, [after all he could hardly plead ignorance of the process could he?] and one must congratulate the appropriate authorities for seeing that and not permitting the [second] appeal to go forward. I hope this is also the case for his partner from Singapore if I remember correctly. Regards Could be...also possible that the press on the issue encouraged the landlord to abandon his appeal, as he may have feared more loss of face. Glad to see someone follow through on this and not give in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darrendsd Posted February 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2013 And this was covered by the BBC? <deleted>?? It was covered by local area BBC News, what's wrong with that? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locationthailand Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Landlords here are protected to the point of stupidity. Another example of the law here being an ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrmazinkle Posted February 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2013 Landlords here are protected to the point of stupidity. Another example of the law here being an ass. there is no law here..plain to see and simple to follow....the Thais know this oh so well.... unless they are connected they are afraid to speak..this is the legacy for their children of tomorrow. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Let's see if they can actually leave. They may face overstay problems. No overstay as a legal dispute and he was blocked from leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittychangchang Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Let's see if they can actually leave. They may face overstay problems. No overstay as a legal dispute and he was blocked from leaving I bet he still has to pay the 20,000bht overstay fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thai at Heart Posted February 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2013 I hope he counter sues for loss of earnings. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Let's see if they can actually leave. They may face overstay problems. No overstay as a legal dispute and he was blocked from leaving I believe the extension of permission to stay is discretionary in these cases so it may not be clear cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I wonder how long this would have dragged on if it was not exposed in the media good to see he got his chestnuts out of the fire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgma Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 ok My advice is as follows. if you rent a place....set a 10,000 bath garantee sum in the contract( and forget about it ever returned) If you drive a car (old or new) get a all risk coverage, it will save you from being dragged in absolute nightmares like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 And this was covered by the BBC? <deleted>?? Why wouldn't the BBC cover it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 This is really a shame that some Thai landlord on the "hustle" was able to upset this guy's life like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virtualtraveller Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Yet, Thaksin gets to scarper. If I were Lee I would now name and shame the landlord publicly once he gets home, the guy was just being petty and abusing Thai law to inconvenience someone whom he couldn't bully in the courts. Yes, good advice, when renting pay as small a deposit as possible, because often you won't get it back, or just skip on your last month's rent, make excuses, delay, then leave. Fully comp insurance is also useful here (damned expensive for motorbikes), usually when you're hit by someone else they plead poverty and expect you to let them off, or if it's your fault and you are 'rich' farang, they expect to extort money from you as a result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldBattles Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I have always thought that farangs are considered guilty of any charge that is placed on them by a native. Vindictive people carry a grudge to the grave. In think that in most cases brought like this by Thais against farangs they are appealed and can be dragged out for years by the plaintiff. Is it guilty at the time of arrest until proven innocent? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamhar Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 An eye opener to say the least. Regarding insurance, what are the reputable insurance companies, and what can you expect to pay? Insurance is only as good as the company backing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) And this was covered by the BBC? <deleted>?? Yes - are you surprised that they cover news stories about British nationals being treated like crap overseas? Now we just need the government to start standing up for its citizens more. Edited February 14, 2013 by Baerboxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I have always thought that farangs are considered guilty of any charge that is placed on them by a native. Vindictive people carry a grudge to the grave. In think that in most cases brought like this by Thais against farangs they are appealed and can be dragged out for years by the plaintiff. Is it guilty at the time of arrest until proven innocent? Agree - and natives can oftem make accusations based on a loss of temper. Once made, they can never be seen to back down and loose face. Add to that, the prevalent xenophobia and lack of rights for foreigners etc and it easy to see how cases like this happen. If your a foreigner, in most third world countries, it seems to be guilty as charged unless you can prove innocence which usually involves some for of financial exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Let's see if they can actually leave. They may face overstay problems. No overstay as a legal dispute and he was blocked from leaving I believe the extension of permission to stay is discretionary in these cases so it may not be clear cut. Yes - it seems everything is discretionary. That's it Briggsy you've hit the jackpot - Hub of Discretion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Let's see if they can actually leave. They may face overstay problems. No overstay as a legal dispute and he was blocked from leaving I believe the extension of permission to stay is discretionary in these cases so it may not be clear cut. Yes - it seems everything is discretionary. That's it Briggsy you've hit the jackpot - Hub of Discretion Indeed, conclusive proof of a crime is optional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticBhoy Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Chestnutt Conkers! That would have been my headline. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saroq Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 And this was covered by the BBC? <deleted>?? I imagine that the BBC covered it because of the growing number of cases of Brits (and other foreigners) being shafted in Thailand, often with the full support of the Thai police and legal system. It's good to shine a spotlight on cases like this and on all cases where corrupt Thai practices affect farangs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deesquared Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 And this was covered by the BBC? <deleted>?? Why wouldn't the BBC cover it? Because it's a boring story that hardly seems worthy of international news coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equalizer Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 This country does not seem to realize the level of intelligence is small to zero. A farang criminally minded person will go for years without getting caught here. Chiefly due to lack of forensic capabilities and relevant competent departments. One day these people will start going missing in large numbers, forget Darmer, Gacey, Bundy, they will look like school children if the wrong person gets rubbed up the wrong way. They do not seem to realize treating people the way they do will one day set of a ticking time bomb in some twisted mind. I also would not surprise me if the BIB starts to go missing around the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeijoshinCool Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Landlords here are protected to the point of stupidity. Another example of the law here being an ass. Not at all. I destroyed my cheating, lying landlord, financially and psychologically. Takes a good lawyer (and therein lies the rub) and patience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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