troudball Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 hello there, i m planning to go to thailand soon for 6 month and i will need a good internet connection speed and quality because i m a self made trader and so i need it for working and making money. i read a lot of thing on the forum and the first conclusion i have is the speed is good if you connect to thaï website but is slower (or really bad) if you try to connect out of thailand to europe or america's website. for my software trading, i need a good connection, so can you TRY A PING TEST FOR ME ? i would be very glad if you do . the ping adress is : ping 202.1.7.3 (what average speed? any loss?) can you do a traceroad to : tracert 202.1.7.3 (how many line do you have? ...) thank you very much and sorry for my bad english to do that you must open the Command-line interpreter by doing the "cmd" in the execute menu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troudball Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 please, tell me where you are so that i will have a good overview 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Here you go, from Pathum Thani 50km north of BKK, TOT 8Mb WiNet connection. Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]Copyright © 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\DaveC>ping 202.1.7.3 Pinging 202.1.7.3 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=276ms TTL=47 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=275ms TTL=47 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=274ms TTL=47 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=275ms TTL=47 Ping statistics for 202.1.7.3: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 274ms, Maximum = 276ms, Average = 275ms C:\Users\DaveC>tracert 202.1.7.3 Tracing route to gw1.ibllc.com.hk [202.1.7.3] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.101.1 3 2 ms 2 ms 3 ms node-iyp.pool-101-108.dynamic.totbb.net [101.108.96.1] 4 5 ms 4 ms 3 ms 172.17.48.25 5 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms ten-0-8-1-0.cwt-core-03.totisp.net [203.114.118.165] 6 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms ten-3-2.cwt-gw-01.totisp.net [203.114.118.134] 7 19 ms 18 ms 18 ms bun-eth-3.cwt-core-01.totiig.net [180.180.255.77] 8 18 ms 18 ms 17 ms ten-gi-0-7-0-3.knl-core-01.totiig.net [180.180.255.50] 9 121 ms 120 ms 120 ms po-0-1-1.jp.pop.totiig.net [180.180.255.238] 10 215 ms 214 ms 213 ms as2687.ix.jpix.ad.jp [210.171.224.103] 11 251 ms 251 ms 251 ms 165.87.76.202 12 275 ms 275 ms 275 ms 32.114.129.106 13 275 ms 274 ms 275 ms gw1.ibllc.com.hk [202.1.7.3] Trace complete. C:\Users\DaveC> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troudball Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 thank crossy i appreciate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloggie Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 This doesn't help you, internet in Thailand is all ABOUT location - location - location! What works at one place doesn't work at another place. So a ping from Pathum Thani does mean you will have the same speed two blocks down the road.... I don't know where you come from but you can't 'demand' here bandwidth (even if you pay for it) or anything else, internet speed / up-time is as it as. Have a look at this picture, this is how it might look like in your street: http://www.loupiote.com/photos/2632655563.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyG Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 FWIW, here's the ping from a Bangkok suburb, TOT Internet PING 202.1.7.3 (202.1.7.3) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 202.1.7.3: icmp_req=1 ttl=50 time=177 ms 64 bytes from 202.1.7.3: icmp_req=2 ttl=50 time=511 ms 64 bytes from 202.1.7.3: icmp_req=3 ttl=50 time=178 ms 64 bytes from 202.1.7.3: icmp_req=4 ttl=50 time=295 ms 64 bytes from 202.1.7.3: icmp_req=5 ttl=50 time=178 ms 64 bytes from 202.1.7.3: icmp_req=6 ttl=50 time=182 ms 64 bytes from 202.1.7.3: icmp_req=7 ttl=50 time=182 ms 64 bytes from 202.1.7.3: icmp_req=8 ttl=50 time=274 ms 64 bytes from 202.1.7.3: icmp_req=9 ttl=50 time=182 ms 64 bytes from 202.1.7.3: icmp_req=10 ttl=50 time=449 ms and the traceroute traceroute to 202.1.7.3 (202.1.7.3), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 9.082 ms 9.426 ms 9.739 ms 2 node-vlt.pool-125-25.dynamic.totbb.net (125.25.160.1) 36.847 ms 39.440 ms 42.049 ms 3 172.17.40.65 (172.17.40.65) 44.783 ms 45.014 ms 47.109 ms 4 ten-9-1.cwt-core-01.totisp.net (203.113.24.233) 50.707 ms 53.938 ms 54.296 ms 5 ten3-3.cwt-gw-01.totisp.net (203.114.118.138) 56.406 ms 58.739 ms ten-1-4.cwt-gw-01.totisp.net (203.114.118.178) 61.469 ms 6 bun-eth-2.cwt-core-01.totiig.net (180.180.255.73) 78.464 ms 45.799 ms bun-eth-4.cwt-core-01.totiig.net (180.180.255.81) 42.763 ms 7 ten-gi-0-1-0-5.knl-core-01.totiig.net (180.180.255.46) 45.728 ms 46.195 ms ten-gi-0-7-0-3.knl-core-01.totiig.net (180.180.255.50) 48.535 ms 8 po-0-1-1.jp.pop.totiig.net (180.180.255.238) 150.392 ms 153.360 ms 152.721 ms 9 as2687.ix.jpix.ad.jp (210.171.224.103) 156.703 ms 158.937 ms 161.542 ms 10 165.87.76.202 (165.87.76.202) 206.398 ms 208.882 ms 211.479 ms 11 32.114.129.106 (32.114.129.106) 203.221 ms 205.568 ms 205.653 ms 12 * * * 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * 28 * * * 29 * * * 30 * * * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troudball Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 thank Ayg it seem, it doesn't suceed to do a traceroute to the ip adress 202.1.7.3 (the asian server of my trading software in HK) it s really not very encouraging ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 3BB - 13Mb - ADSL - Chaeng Wattana, Nonthaburi Please bear in mind that my home is in a sparsely populated soi with no condo blocks. We are located in between 3BB, TOT and a number of BIG government offices. Our soi is populated by a LOT of over 70s so probably not on an over-subscribed node. Ping Tracert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troudball Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 thank you for the test draftvader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noise Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 This doesn't help you, internet in Thailand is all ABOUT location - location - location! Cloggie is 100% correct. If speed to US and Europe sites is a deal breaker, you will have to accept it will take time to find the right location if you do not have options before you show up. I could see where someone moving here permanently could spend 6 months finding the optimum combination of location and internet service. When my neighbor moved into his house across the street, the only ISP in our development at that time told him it would be 3-4 months before their equipment upgrade would allow him to connect. Would the connection be the driving factor, would you accept renting a house where public transportation may not be optimal for a short time visitor or do you have to be in town (i.e., rent an apartment, condo) where you can walk out and get cheap transportation around town? An option might be to find an agent and tell them to find you a certain type of location (e.g., near BTS in BKK or near the moat in Chiangmai) with fiber optics either already installed or on the pole outside and that you can have a dedicated line run to your house/unit. Do not show up until you have several places to choose from or you will spend your 6 months looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 TOT, In the sticks, 250 kilometers north of Bangkok: C:\Documents and Settings\XXX>ping(202.1.7.3) Ping request could not find host (202.1.7.3). Please check the name and try agai n. C:\Documents and Settings\XXX>ping 202.1.7.3 Pinging 202.1.7.3 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=146ms TTL=42 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=42 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=42 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=146ms TTL=42 Ping statistics for 202.1.7.3: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 145ms, Maximum = 146ms, Average = 145ms C:\Documents and Settings\XXX> Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] © Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\XXX>traceroute 202.1.7.3 'traceroute' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. C:\Documents and Settings\XXX>tracert 202.1.7.3 Tracing route to gw1.ibllc.com.hk [202.1.7.3] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms node-vlt.pool-182-53.dynamic.totbb.net [182.53.1 60.1] 3 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms 172.17.19.65 4 29 ms 29 ms 30 ms 172.17.19.13 5 37 ms 39 ms 37 ms node-61.203-114-118.static.totisp.net [203.114.1 18.217] 6 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms ten3-3.cwt-gw-01.totisp.net [203.114.118.138] 7 37 ms 37 ms 37 ms bun-eth-4.cwt-core-01.totiig.net [180.180.255.81 ] 8 52 ms 52 ms 52 ms ten-gi-0-7-0-3.knl-core-01.totiig.net [180.180.2 55.50] 9 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms po-0-1-1.jp.pop.totiig.net [180.180.255.238] 10 144 ms 144 ms 144 ms as2687.ix.jpix.ad.jp [210.171.224.103] 11 144 ms 144 ms 145 ms 165.87.76.202 12 146 ms 145 ms 145 ms 32.114.129.106 13 145 ms 145 ms 147 ms gw1.ibllc.com.hk [202.1.7.3] Trace complete. C:\Documents and Settings\XXX> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I wonder what wayned was doing when he made that ping (my bold) C:\Documents and Settings\XXX> Our OP also needs to consider reliability as well as ultimate speed and response times. Internet in Thailand is not reliable, period! He's probably going to need a backup connection via 3G for when his landline connection is down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Using my True Internet 15Mbps from Bangkok (along Rama 3) Pinging 202.1.7.3 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=79ms TTL=49 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=77ms TTL=49 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=49 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=78ms TTL=49 Ping statistics for 202.1.7.3: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 77ms, Maximum = 80ms, Average = 78ms Using same internet connection but with Witopia Hong Kong VPN Pinging 202.1.7.3 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=86ms TTL=57 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=86ms TTL=57 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=89ms TTL=57 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=84ms TTL=57 Ping statistics for 202.1.7.3: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 84ms, Maximum = 89ms, Average = 86ms Not much difference for now but things change greatly during the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troudball Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 XXX to wayned : very good ping in the sticks, amazing thailand ! to noise : yes, internet quality is really the first condition for me what do you think about fiber and cable? better reliatibility than adsl line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I was having my usual morning "brain fart"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) Another test. This time from a TRUE Internet 16/1 ADSL from Bangplad (West Bangkok....across the river) Ping Tracert Edited February 14, 2013 by draftvader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troudball Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 thank you again, many post, ilt's great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 From Chiang Mai University. Ping Trace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Don't forget that international lines are throttled in Thailand. But maybe there's a high speed link to HK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joncl Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) from Bangkok on a True line; Pinging 202.1.7.3 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=89ms TTL=48 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=73ms TTL=48 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=71ms TTL=48 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=74ms TTL=48 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=78ms TTL=48 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=73ms TTL=48 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=70ms TTL=48 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=76ms TTL=48 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=48 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=48 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=168ms TTL=48 Reply from 202.1.7.3: bytes=32 time=142ms TTL=48 Ping statistics for 202.1.7.3: Packets: Sent = 12, Received = 12, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 70ms, Maximum = 168ms, Average = 90ms Edited February 14, 2013 by joncl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troudball Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 to tyways : weird to see for going to HK it need to go as far as US.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troudball Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 http://internet.nectec.or.th/webstats/internetmap.current.iir?Sec=internetmap_current a lot of information on this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 http://internet.nect...rnetmap_current a lot of information on this.... That's not the internet in Thailand. That's the wiring map for outside my house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomSand Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) CAT HiNET ping 67ms / Nearly direct peering at H.K Internet Exchange. Excellent route. Avoids cable used for TH>via HK>USA general web traffic. Edited February 14, 2013 by RandomSand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draftvader Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 CAT HiNET ping 67ms / Nearly direct peering at H.K Internet Exchange. Excellent route. Avoids cable used for TH>via HK>USA general web traffic. ....is a very nice answer.... ...and this is my 1,000th post on Thaivisa. I need to get a life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaspercat Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 From True Fiber to Home 50 Mbps PING 202.1.7.3 (202.1.7.3): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 202.1.7.3: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=64.247 ms If it's important for you, get a SME or a guarantee business line. you will either have guarantee bandwidth or lower sharing ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troudball Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 according to this link : http://internet.nectec.or.th/webstats/internetmap.current.iir?Sec=internetmap_current CAT, TRUE and TOT seem to be the better internet provider choice for reliatability and quality : they manage their own server in thailand, have their own internet exchange, and have their own international gateway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troudball Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 thank for all the reply!!! to kaspercat : what is "sme"? does ALL the isp have premium service to guarantee good quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troudball Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 kaspercat : where do you live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shariq607 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 64 bytes from 202.1.7.3: icmp_seq=0 ttl=52 time=34.250 ms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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