Review - Jia Tong Heng Restaurant

[LawrenceChee]

Agree TFC ...in Hong Kong there are just amazing options

The dim sum @ 4 Seasons / Peninsula is oh so good :-)

My fav in hong kong is Chef Chan @ 4 seasons , he is the only 3 star Michelin Chinese chef in the world. His approach to dim sum and his fried rice makes Gordon looks friendly.

He has exacting standards in the kitchen and it shows in his passion for the presentations and taste is exquisite when matched with my fav tea Long Jing

[muchogra]

Very interesting thread, Lawrence. I have not been to many Chinese restaurants in CM but the few I have visited are all the fusion types. But that's quite ok for me as I'm not very particular about food as long as it satisfies me and don't really care about the environment, unlike some of my friends who only eat at fancy places. Just last night, I bought two pieces of cake at Big C for B2o. It tasted good, same as the cake that I like at Grandview. Grandview's buffet has the most for the money. Even my wife says so, which means it must be right - value for money!

For the Chinese fusion food, this place, a few shops down Gecko on the same road as the Imperial Hotel, but on the opposite side is good. (Not sure if it's Sridonchai Road.) It's Teochew style. It's cheap and I took my relatives from Canada there and they also liked it and wanted a second visit.

As for this jia tong heng, the price that you mentioned for what you had seems cheap. If your father thinks it's good, it must be quite good even if he had made allowance in his comments to his Westernized son!

[muchogra]

Quote: in Hong Kong there are just amazing options. The dim sum @ 4 Seasons / Peninsula is oh so good :-)

LOL, that's not an option for most! You picked a loudsy one which most travellers don't really care to visit!

[LawrenceChee]

Morning from Manila ...even though it still feels like Thailand being in the Dusit since everyone is still saying sawadee :-)

The 4 seasons is a great place to be at. It's not overpriced and a meal there cost between 25-60 USD depending on what you order.

The dim sum there made by Chef Chan is an art form and much like good sushi, a great steak the attention to details is amazing.

It takes at least 20 folds by hand to qualify for a real xiao long Bao and when you can manage that for 5000 a day , the massage u give your wife is at a whole new level.

The seafood used must be fresh from the day and for those that are foodies the quality is instant and the feeling divine. Instantly the difference between that and the frozen stuff is distinct

Try it as an experience ...no one will eat there every day as I agree that's bordering insanity but once in your lifetime or when you feel like it, it's a great way to live

I tried the buffet too at grand view and agree with your wife great great value for money.

[ARISTIDE]

First of all do you order Long Jing tea from Internet? I'm a big fan of Long Jing tea. Second I'm going to HK sooner or later. Thanks for mentioning Chef Chan @ 4 seasons, looking forward to try the food.

Agree TFC ...in Hong Kong there are just amazing options The dim sum @ 4 Seasons / Peninsula is oh so good :-) My fav in hong kong is Chef Chan @ 4 seasons , he is the only 3 star Michelin Chinese chef in the world. His approach to dim sum and his fried rice makes Gordon looks friendly. He has exacting standards in the kitchen and it shows in his passion for the presentations and taste is exquisite when matched with my fav tea Long Jing

[LawrenceChee]

If you can, get them from a shop that sells the ones direct from hangzhou

I normally get them while I work in china ...really good tea

Mandarin Fujian has some on stock during the season

[LarryBird]

Yang zie kiang is the rest. on Nimman.

[realthaideal]

I'm a fan of the old JTH on Sridonchai, and haven't made it out to the Hang Dong one yet, though I should. Glad to know about the Nimman place too, though I find most places around Nimm to be suspect - higher prices and all show without delivery is the usual 'round there.

Two mo's ago was at a party where a lady brought potstickers from the Chinese place near Nakorn Ping Condo, and they were really good. I hear they weren't expensive either. She brought 3 orders, and I think there must've been at least 6 to an order, maybe even 10. I didn't bother counting.

[LarryBird]

The Jia Tong food is ok, not great. The ambiance is typical: big big big.. marble, big columns, red and gold, sterile, etc.. Nothing special. Not warm, not cozy, not quaint. Very Chinese. Feels like a casino, or some of the golf course club houses around here.. Big is impressive, not stylish and beautiful. The service I would rate as very good. The girls are pretty, and they go berzerk when they see our kids. yay!. The crispy duck is very good, and there was a pork dish I can't remember specifically that I liked a lot.

I really don't understand spending extra $$ for Chinese food while in Chiang mai. My wife's family is of chinese ancestry, so they like to go out to these places, but I think it's all a waste since the typical thai restaurant blows it away at a fraction of the cost.

LB, 33.

[tfc]

Agree TFC ...in Hong Kong there are just amazing options The dim sum @ 4 Seasons / Peninsula is oh so good :-) My fav in hong kong is Chef Chan @ 4 seasons , he is the only 3 star Michelin Chinese chef in the world. His approach to dim sum and his fried rice makes Gordon looks friendly. He has exacting standards in the kitchen and it shows in his passion for the presentations and taste is exquisite when matched with my fav tea Long Jing

I like the 4 Seasons Dim Sum too, I think the restaurant is called Lung King Heen... but my wife usually pushes me to go to French place Caprice which is in the same hotel. Although it is not the same quality at all I also like Luk Yu tea house just because of the old style ambiance but the food is not as good as I once remember it to be. Peninsula's Spring Moon is good too but my favorite so far is 4 seasons though I would love to be proven wrong!

[LawrenceChee]

Try the Peninsula Shanghai @ Bund the chef there is great too. The decor is splendid and old shanghai style and the views at the right table gives you a bliss

I love it watching out the windows sipping a hot long jing as it rains outside the bund the feeling is nostalgic

For me now in the world the best lobster fried rice is found in that restaurant @ 4 seasons. I have not found any equivalent at that quality and with the "fo Hei" taste

[Rasseru]

Haven't found a place that I prefer for Dim Sum or Chinese meals than Fujian yet but perhaps it is just due to individual taste. Yanzi Jiang really wasn't to my taste.

You've got me excited about trying Fujian, to where I have never been!

It's my favorite Chinese/Dim Sum in Chiang Mai though I gotta say that if you've been to Hong Kong you've got to kind of put that out of your mind. I don't think I've ever had any Dim Sum anywhere else that matches Hong Kong.

I made it today at last to Fujian, with my wife, to try their dim sum. We had six dim sum dishes and a bowl of soup each. We enjoyed it all, but agreed with each other that we prefer the dim sum at Yanzi Jiang (the one in Nimmanhaemin). For us, Fujian's dim sum is perhaps eighty or ninety percent as good as Yanzi Jiang's. As you suggested, tfc, it is a matter of personal taste.

[ARISTIDE]

They are both great. I particularly like the red pork pie thing at Yang Shi Jiang

Haven't found a place that I prefer for Dim Sum or Chinese meals than Fujian yet but perhaps it is just due to individual taste. Yanzi Jiang really wasn't to my taste.

You've got me excited about trying Fujian, to where I have never been!

It's my favorite Chinese/Dim Sum in Chiang Mai though I gotta say that if you've been to Hong Kong you've got to kind of put that out of your mind. I don't think I've ever had any Dim Sum anywhere else that matches Hong Kong.

I made it today at last to Fujian, with my wife, to try their dim sum. We had six dim sum dishes and a bowl of soup each. We enjoyed it all, but agreed with each other that we prefer the dim sum at Yanzi Jiang (the one in Nimmanhaemin). For us, Fujian's dim sum is perhaps eighty or ninety percent as good as Yanzi Jiang's. As you suggested, tfc, it is a matter of personal taste.

[Ulysses G.]

For us, Fujian's dim sum is perhaps eighty or ninety percent as good as Yanzi Jiang's. As you suggested, tfc, it is a matter of personal taste.

I'm glad that you saved me a trip and some money. I usually agree with your opinions on food and although Yanzi Jiang's is the best dim sum that I have had in Chiang Mai, it does not hold a candle to what I was used to in San Francisco. I will stick with Yanzi Jiang as it is more convienient for me.

We are lucky to have as many decent foreign restaraunts as we do in Chiang Mai, but sometimes I miss ones that go beyond what would be merely acceptable in other countries.

Edited August 1, 2013 by Ulysses G.

[KRS1]

I'm a fan of the old JTH on Sridonchai, and haven't made it out to the Hang Dong one yet, though I should. Glad to know about the Nimman place too, though I find most places around Nimm to be suspect - higher prices and all show without delivery is the usual 'round there.

Two mo's ago was at a party where a lady brought potstickers from the Chinese place near Nakorn Ping Condo, and they were really good. I hear they weren't expensive either. She brought 3 orders, and I think there must've been at least 6 to an order, maybe even 10. I didn't bother counting.

That would be the Taiwanese restaurant, suitably named "Taiwanese Restaurant"

best dumplings in town !

[junglechef]

Use to like Taiwanese Restaurant a few years back but the last few times it wasn't good at all, incl the dumplings, and I stopped going there around a year ago. Has it returned to it's glory?

[Rasseru]

Use to like Taiwanese Restaurant a few years back but the last few times it wasn't good at all, incl the dumplings, and I stopped going there around a year ago. Has it returned to it's glory?

I don't know. I similarly stopped going, not long after they moved. And to my taste, they were only a shade above okay before that. I like gyoza -- which is how I think of them, being half Japanese -- so much that I was willing to cut them some slack.

[richard10365]

I love Jia Tong Heng Restaurant. It's one of the best restaurants period. Great service, excellent food, not expensive and very accessible. I highly recommend it.

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[BenCM]

I love Jia Tong Heng Restaurant. It's one of the best restaurants period. Great service, excellent food, not expensive and very accessible. I highly recommend it.

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Based on what I read here, I told my wife I would like to go and we went with some friends to the big Jia Tong Heng on the CM - Lampang road.

I did not enjoy my meal and thought one of the dishes tasted odd. Four hours later I was vomiting, followed by 4 days of diarrhoea, awful cramps, shakes and feeling awful. My wife also spent a long time on the toilet following her meal.

Just to be clear, I am well used to Asian food and have no connection with any competing business in CM.

Never again. Avoid.

[Loaded]

I love Jia Tong Heng Restaurant. It's one of the best restaurants period. Great service, excellent food, not expensive and very accessible. I highly recommend it.

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Based on what I read here, I told my wife I would like to go and we went with some friends to the big Jia Tong Heng on the CM - Lampang road.

I did not enjoy my meal and thought one of the dishes tasted odd. Four hours later I was vomiting, followed by 4 days of diarrhoea, awful cramps, shakes and feeling awful. My wife also spent a long time on the toilet following her meal.

Just to be clear, I am well used to Asian food and have no connection with any competing business in CM.

Never again. Avoid.

I don't believe you but that's my opinion and I'm allowed to post it just like you.

[Ulysses G.]

I don't believe you but that's my opinion and I'm allowed to post it just like you.

Hear, hear.

[BenCM]

I love Jia Tong Heng Restaurant. It's one of the best restaurants period. Great service, excellent food, not expensive and very accessible. I highly recommend it.

Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Based on what I read here, I told my wife I would like to go and we went with some friends to the big Jia Tong Heng on the CM - Lampang road.

I did not enjoy my meal and thought one of the dishes tasted odd. Four hours later I was vomiting, followed by 4 days of diarrhoea, awful cramps, shakes and feeling awful. My wife also spent a long time on the toilet following her meal.

Just to be clear, I am well used to Asian food and have no connection with any competing business in CM.

Never again. Avoid.

I don't believe you but that's my opinion and I'm allowed to post it just like you.

I can assure you my illness and symptoms are fact, not an opinion. You can believe what you want. I have sent you a PM.

Edited December 30, 2013 by BenCM

[richard10365]

Sorry about your bad luck BenCM. I think food poisoning is more chance than anything. If people stopped eating where there was an incident of food poisoning then probably most restaurants would be closed. It happens in the cleanest of places. I've only had excellent experiences in Jia Tong Heng restaurant. I'm sure I'll eat there again some day.

[CMKiwi]

Not yet flying to Manila now to eat some fried chicken @ JollyBee Will come back in a few days to try that :-) thanks for the recommendation

Fried chicken at JollieBee..... my my now isnt that top cuisine! Just like KFC only cheaper.... did a few years in the Phils and cant say Im screaming out for that stuff.

Are you going to have some balut while in town? To the uninitiated, balut is a 'blue' chicken egg....that is an egg with a developed chicken embryo inside. Sounds really bad but actually quite tasty. They have 3 or 4 different ages for these eggs which designates the 'crunchiness' of the embryo.

Anyone feeling hungry? I wasnt too keen on the older eggs....didnt like chewing on feathers!

[Loaded]

I love Jia Tong Heng Restaurant. It's one of the best restaurants period. Great service, excellent food, not expensive and very accessible. I highly recommend it.

Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Based on what I read here, I told my wife I would like to go and we went with some friends to the big Jia Tong Heng on the CM - Lampang road.

I did not enjoy my meal and thought one of the dishes tasted odd. Four hours later I was vomiting, followed by 4 days of diarrhoea, awful cramps, shakes and feeling awful. My wife also spent a long time on the toilet following her meal.

Just to be clear, I am well used to Asian food and have no connection with any competing business in CM.

Never again. Avoid.

I don't believe you but that's my opinion and I'm allowed to post it just like you.

I can assure you my illness and symptoms are fact, not an opinion. You can believe what you want. I have sent you a PM.

You actually sent me 2.

If you read this, you'll now know that most types of food poisoning symptoms take longer than 4 hours before they display themselves. 12 - 72 hours seems the norm. Your food poisoning could have been contracted anywhere during the 3 days before you visited Jia Tong Heng.

http://www.healthline.com/galecontent/food-poisoning

That's if you really were sick.

Edited December 31, 2013 by Loaded

[BenCM]

You actually sent me 2.

If you read this, you'll now know that most types of food poisoning symptoms take longer than 4 hours before they display themselves. 12 - 72 hours seems the norm. Your food poisoning could have been contracted anywhere during the 3 days before you visited Jia Tong Heng.

http://www.healthline.com/galecontent/food-poisoning

That's if you really were sick.

I see you have hunted around and found a website with content by: Patience Paradox, Teresa G. Odle......Gale Encyclopedia of Alternative Medicine, 2005.

What you have chosen not to mention is what they say about a common form of food poisoning caused by poor food handling techniques:

"STAPHYLOCOCCUS AUREUS (STAPH). Staph is spread primarily by food handlers with Staph infections on their skin. However, contaminated equipment and food preparation surfaces may also be at fault. Almost any food can be contaminated, but salad dressings, milk products, cream pastries, and food kept at room temperature, rather than hot or cold, are likely candidates. Classic symptoms of food poisoning appear rapidly, usually two to eight hours after the contaminated food is eaten."

And, here is a direct quote from the UK NHS website:

"Where food has been contaminated by bacteria or chemicals, vomiting is the main symptom. In these cases, vomiting can occur 15 minutes to six hours after eating the food."

So it is perfectly reasonable to suffer the first effects of food poisoning 4 or so hours after eating infected food - I think any doctor would agree.

I take it your sneering comments are to do with you believing I have a competing business in CM? or are you just trolling through boredom?

Edited December 31, 2013 by BenCM

[Loaded]

You actually sent me 2.

If you read this, you'll now know that most types of food poisoning symptoms take longer than 4 hours before they display themselves. 12 - 72 hours seems the norm. Your food poisoning could have been contracted anywhere during the 3 days before you visited Jia Tong Heng.

http://www.healthline.com/galecontent/food-poisoning

That's if you really were sick.

I see you have hunted around and found a website with content by: Patience Paradox, Teresa G. Odle......Gale Encyclopedia of Alternative Medicine, 2005.

What you have chosen not to mention is what they say about a common form of food poisoning caused by poor food handling techniques:

"STAPHYLOCOCCUS AUREUS (STAPH). Staph is spread primarily by food handlers with Staph infections on their skin. However, contaminated equipment and food preparation surfaces may also be at fault. Almost any food can be contaminated, but salad dressings, milk products, cream pastries, and food kept at room temperature, rather than hot or cold, are likely candidates. Classic symptoms of food poisoning appear rapidly, usually two to eight hours after the contaminated food is eaten."

And, here is a direct quote from the UK NHS website:

"Where food has been contaminated by bacteria or chemicals, vomiting is the main symptom. In these cases, vomiting can occur 15 minutes to six hours after eating the food."

So it is perfectly reasonable to suffer the first effects of food poisoning 4 or so hours after eating infected food - I think any doctor would agree.

I take it your sneering comments are to do with you believing I have a competing business in CM? or are you just trolling through boredom?

I have posted 3,200 + something times since 2004. You have posted just 19 times and quite a few of these were on this thread, but you call me a troll

Most cases of food poisoning take up to 3 days before symptoms show but you zero in on one restaurant that you said you visited 4 hours before symptoms exhibited themselves.

My personal opinion of people who post anonymously on forums to intentionally damage reputable businesses is that that person is acting maliciously and more than likely dishonestly. Today it's JTH, tomorrow it's Duke's, the day after that it's another successful business. That is my opinion.

I have run businesses and have also been attacked by some really sick people on the Internet. Anonymity gives anonymous people a voice. They can be heard at last. Whoopee.

Edited December 31, 2013 by Loaded

[BenCM]

You actually sent me 2.

If you read this, you'll now know that most types of food poisoning symptoms take longer than 4 hours before they display themselves. 12 - 72 hours seems the norm. Your food poisoning could have been contracted anywhere during the 3 days before you visited Jia Tong Heng.

http://www.healthline.com/galecontent/food-poisoning

That's if you really were sick.

I see you have hunted around and found a website with content by: Patience Paradox, Teresa G. Odle......Gale Encyclopedia of Alternative Medicine, 2005.

What you have chosen not to mention is what they say about a common form of food poisoning caused by poor food handling techniques:

"STAPHYLOCOCCUS AUREUS (STAPH). Staph is spread primarily by food handlers with Staph infections on their skin. However, contaminated equipment and food preparation surfaces may also be at fault. Almost any food can be contaminated, but salad dressings, milk products, cream pastries, and food kept at room temperature, rather than hot or cold, are likely candidates. Classic symptoms of food poisoning appear rapidly, usually two to eight hours after the contaminated food is eaten."

And, here is a direct quote from the UK NHS website:

"Where food has been contaminated by bacteria or chemicals, vomiting is the main symptom. In these cases, vomiting can occur 15 minutes to six hours after eating the food."

So it is perfectly reasonable to suffer the first effects of food poisoning 4 or so hours after eating infected food - I think any doctor would agree.

I take it your sneering comments are to do with you believing I have a competing business in CM? or are you just trolling through boredom?

I have posted 3,200 + something times since 2004. You have posted just 19 times and quite a few of these were on this thread, but you call me a troll

Most cases of food poisoning take up to 3 days before symptoms show but you zero in on one restaurant that you said you visited 4 hours before symptoms exhibited themselves.

My personal opinion of people who post anonymously on forums to intentionally damage reputable businesses is that that person is acting maliciously and more than likely dishonestly. Today it's JTH, tomorrow it's Duke's, the day after that it's another successful business. That is my opinion.

I have run businesses and have also been attacked by some really sick people on the Internet. Anonymity gives anonymous people a voice. They can be heard at last. Whoopee.

The definition of a troll includes someone who posts on a thread, ignores the subject of discussion, and simply attacks another poster - in this case calling him a liar. This is what you did. You were hoping for a reaction and you got one.

What a troll does not do, is contact you twice by PM, supply their email address and ask you to substantiate your claims of dishonesty. You have ignored my efforts in this regard and you just post your allegations again - and your evidence is....."your opinion".

I am sorry your business has been attacked in the past - and I think, if honest, we are getting to the real issue here.

I also run a business (not bar/catering and not in Thailand) and also would not like negative feedback, but if I was to get some, I would not be so pompous and arrogant as to automatically accuse the complainant of lying, which is what you clearly do.

You have not a single shred of evidence to show that my original post was in any way untruthful, and you know it.

If you wish to discuss further, then you have my email address. You are the "anonymous one" - making allegations against me!

Have a Happy New Year

Ben

Edited December 31, 2013 by BenCM

[Rasseru]

A tip of my hat to you, Ben, for how you have handled yourself here. I had no difficulty believing you in the first instance, as the one time I have had a case of food poisoning - years ago, in Japan, and very violent - it came on in about three hours. That said, I like the restaurant in question, and will not be prevented from going there by your experience, as I think that sort of thing can happen anywhere at times.

[Ulysses G.]

I am of the opinion that one might get food poisoning almost anywhere and, as Loaded pointed out, it is very difficult to be sure where it actually happened. I would not make a big deal about it publicly unless I knew for sure that the restaurant was doing something fairly major that would cause it.