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Not in Thailand, but in Singapore at a normal electronics shop...

I walked in looking to price up an SLR Camera, Zoom Lens and an MP3 Player (3 Items) and was ready to spend money.

The owner asked me...

Shop: "Can I help"

Me: "no thank you", I'm just looking at the moment' (or something similar)..

Shop: "what are you looking at ?"

Me: "these" (pointing to the cameras in front of me).

Shop: "which one ?"

I said "I'm not sure yet" and moved to the zoom lenses,

Shop: "what are you looking at now?" and we went through a similar routine...

I moved to the MP3 Players and was becoming visible irritated...

The Shop Owner asked me: "which one do you want?"

Me: "I'm not sure yet, I'm still deciding"

Shop: "You come into my shop and you don't know what you want?"

Me: "you've seen me look at those cameras, those zoom lenses and these MP3 players, I know what I want, but it's not from you" and walked out...

I ended up buying all that I wanted in another shop...

I've no idea why some shop owners are like this, I've never experienced it in Thailand, I just suspect it some form of power trip some owners go through.. They've got what you want, they think they hold the power... It might explain much of the poor customer service....

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I'll second what Richard_smith says, I ran into the same situation with an Indian bloke selling stuff in Singapore. I didn't even enter the shop, and he started pressing me into buying stuff, which as I told him from the start I didn't even wanted and I didn't ask him anything. Boggles my mind to the day...

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My old girlfriend got banned from Foodland in Pattaya. Yes to both meanings of old. I never met a Thai person who got banned from Foodland before. I considered it quite an accomplishment. I'd tell all the drunks on Soi BuaKhow and they would all nod in amazement. No one had ever met a person who had been banned from Foodland.

what did she do to be banned .... i am wondering .

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My old girlfriend got banned from Foodland in Pattaya. Yes to both meanings of old. I never met a Thai person who got banned from Foodland before. I considered it quite an accomplishment. I'd tell all the drunks on Soi BuaKhow and they would all nod in amazement. No one had ever met a person who had been banned from Foodland.

what did she do to be banned .... i am wondering .

I just had an appalling image of somebody test fitting some panty liners.

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Not been asked to leave a shop in this country, but got flipped off by some old Chinese goat in Rimping in CM while looking at the cheese as I was in her way. So proceeded to get in her face to ask what the wafting was all about and let her have some of the same, about 15 times. **** em. As you, op, it makes my blood boil. I suggest getting a cheap pair of flip-flops, smothering stink bomb liquid on there, get back in the shop, scuff your feet and walk out (without the flops).

Indrid Cold: like the nik, Mothman. wink.png

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Rather than sitting through the whole re-run let's see if anyone can add anything new after scanning through this.

For example I do want to here how a old slapper got herself banned from Foodland.

I've come to the conclusion that Chinese shopkeeper tradition holds that the customer should consider themselves luckly to be allowed to purchase their wares.

Western culture (and global capitalism) has indoctrinated us both as consumers and businesspeople to think the other way around.

With the way things are going worldwide maybe we farang should be grateful for the few advantages we have left - for the moment.

And stop trying to teach them to change! wai2.gif


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I go out of my way not to do business with Chinese.

Ecstatic when big box stores and 711 arrived in Thailand and the dreary mom pop Chinese shops disappeared.

Who do you think owns those big box stores and 7-11's? Or are you OK with Chinese ownership as long as you don't have to see them?

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Not been asked to leave a shop in this country, but got flipped off by some old Chinese goat in Rimping in CM while looking at the cheese as I was in her way. So proceeded to get in her face to ask what the wafting was all about and let her have some of the same, about 15 times. **** em. As you, op, it makes my blood boil. I suggest getting a cheap pair of flip-flops, smothering stink bomb liquid on there, get back in the shop, scuff your feet and walk out (without the flops).

Indrid Cold: like the nik, Mothman. wink.png

Thank you :) we have them in sweden too

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I go out of my way not to do business with Chinese.

Ecstatic when big box stores and 711 arrived in Thailand and the dreary mom pop Chinese shops disappeared.

Have to say, when I pass a quaint little shop with some old Chinese guy sitting in it wasting his life away I get a bit misty eyed...then I smile and move on.

They did it to themselves. The Thai's not keen on them either. I think my wife has more sour taste than me for them. She days they exploited her mother for years (while working in Chinatown).

All those 7/11s etc are owned by Thai Chinese.

As for the exploitation, what goes around, comes around. Who do you think was doing the exploiting when the Chinese first came here without a pot to urinate in. Just like the immigrant labour working for Thai farmers today for 100 baht a day for 12 hour shifts in the rice paddy.

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I go out of my way not to do business with Chinese.

Ecstatic when big box stores and 711 arrived in Thailand and the dreary mom pop Chinese shops disappeared.

Have to say, when I pass a quaint little shop with some old Chinese guy sitting in it wasting his life away I get a bit misty eyed...then I smile and move on.

They did it to themselves. The Thai's not keen on them either. I think my wife has more sour taste than me for them. She days they exploited her mother for years (while working in Chinatown).

All those 7/11s etc are owned by Thai Chinese.

As for the exploitation, what goes around, comes around. Who do you think was doing the exploiting when the Chinese first came here without a pot to urinate in. Just like the immigrant labour working for Thai farmers today for 100 baht a day for 12 hour shifts in the rice paddy.

The Chinese never forget,they're still reminding all white men in Shanghai that 200 years ago the parks used to have signs outside saying 'No Dogs and No Chinese Allowed'!

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Not in Thailand, but in Singapore at a normal electronics shop...

I walked in looking to price up an SLR Camera, Zoom Lens and an MP3 Player (3 Items) and was ready to spend money.

The owner asked me...

Shop: "Can I help"

Me: "no thank you", I'm just looking at the moment' (or something similar)..

Shop: "what are you looking at ?"

Me: "these" (pointing to the cameras in front of me).

Shop: "which one ?"

I said "I'm not sure yet" and moved to the zoom lenses,

Shop: "what are you looking at now?" and we went through a similar routine...

I moved to the MP3 Players and was becoming visible irritated...

The Shop Owner asked me: "which one do you want?"

Me: "I'm not sure yet, I'm still deciding"

Shop: "You come into my shop and you don't know what you want?"

Me: "you've seen me look at those cameras, those zoom lenses and these MP3 players, I know what I want, but it's not from you" and walked out...

I ended up buying all that I wanted in another shop...

I've no idea why some shop owners are like this, I've never experienced it in Thailand, I just suspect it some form of power trip some owners go through.. They've got what you want, they think they hold the power... It might explain much of the poor customer service....

from sim lim square i guess? those camera shops in sim lim are a complete ripped off and have some weird behavior issues. probably need afew animal behaviorist to explain their behaviors

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Forget hi end electronics, let me tell you my experience just the other day with a shitty clinic in Pattaya.

I was bitten by my neighbors dog(puppy) pretty badly as i was trying to help her train him(but thats another story)

So anyhow, went to get the booster shots at 1 clinic, with no problems and had to do another 3 days later, but forgot.

Remembered 7 days later, went back to same clinic but doctor was not there(off to lunch or something), so went into clinic next door.

Showed my shots certificate,spoke in Thai and told them i just need the shot.

They started to answer in extremely bad English, so i continued speaking Thai(they understood me, but still replied in English), anyhow, they looked at the book of stamps( the shots) and stated that i had my first at other clinic, and i need to go there.

Whats the difference where i have the shots?blink.png

So told them off, slightly :) in Thai, i asked them if they did not know how to make injections or if they did not need the money.

All 3 stooges stood there with their mouth open.

Doctor came out and i guess sensed there was something wrong, so he asked what was wrong.

Told him i wanted an injection, and staff told me to go away. To be honest, i never saw Thai face get that angry that fast,.

Moral of the story is, some people here are simply too stupid to use their brain for anything

PS. I am having 3 days of stupidity everywhere i go, hope it passes before i go mad.smile.png

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I got thrown out of a Thai bank (begins with 'C') in Bangkok by a Thai security guard once. All I did was walk in to pick up a Moneygram, but the guard was adamant that I could not go in, and he physically threw me out. I walked in to another branch of the same bank a mile away, just to see if they had a 'No farang policy', but no, they sat me down in a chair, brought me a glass of water, and processed my Moneygram. I never did find out what I did wrong.

I also got told to pi**off by a street vender on Koh Sahn road for asking how much his chicken on sticks were. 300 Baht was a bit too much for me to hold my tongue.

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Not a shop but, (two years ago) we'd arranged to meet someone in the lobby of the Nana Hotel and were sitting having a quiet chat while we waited. The old pseudo hiso bat at reception sent the security officer over to tell us to leave because my son was in a unThai semi-laying position on the sofa. Even the seventy year old hookers seated opposite us were aghast.

Feelings were mutual, words were exchanged, we left.

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can't understand people busting a nut over being thrown out of a shop because they look loso, especially the part about coming back with the police. LOL.

and what can the police do?

Shops are private areas, the tenant can ban anybody he doesn't like from entering.

btw, the same thing happens also to Thais - and many westerners are still puzzled about why visible status is so important to many Thais...

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I was shopping with my girlfriend in Krabi and she asked for the price of a purse, after being quoted 12,000 baht she said no start looking at other items. The shop owner got irate and started yelling at us about wasting her time. Why did you ask about the price if you don't want to buy? Why won't you bargain with me? Why are you wasting my time? Get out of my shop!

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Not so lomg ago I went to shop in South Pattaya, near friendship, that is specialised in motorbike helmets as i tried to find a decent helmet for my 8 year old.

The offered me an Index helmet in a size that would fit me. Of course it was way to big for the boys head and I told them that it was important in my view that a helmet could be strapped tightly.

They then strapped it as fast as the could, but due to the big size of the helmet the strap would go straight over his adams apple taking his breath away.

I noted them that first of all the helmet was way too big and that the strap shpuld hold under the chin not on the adams apple.

The wife of the owner made the famous sign that I should leave.

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can't understand people busting a nut over being thrown out of a shop because they look loso, especially the part about coming back with the police. LOL.

and what can the police do?

Shops are private areas, the tenant can ban anybody he doesn't like from entering.

btw, the same thing happens also to Thais - and many westerners are still puzzled about why visible status is so important to many Thais...

I always look Lo-So when I enter any shop but have never been thrown out of anywhere,I'm struggling to believe how it can happen so much?Although I have seen the Chinese Matriarchs people speak about but have never had a harsh word with any of them,always very polite actually!

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Not if it was her money you opened your toy-shop with...

Yeah, that did occur to me - where does a young guy come by the capital to open a high-end audio store ? Might go a long way to explaining why they found themselves in MBK - surely *the* bargain-basement destination in inner BKK - surrounded by people selling cheap tat and endless rows of mobile phones. Not the market I'd be looking for - it would be like trying to open a Porsche dealership outside Tesco.

The upside, for me, is that I wont be revisiting MBK unless its at the point of a gun, so I am unlikely to ever encounter Mama EatMySh*t.

Do you speak any Thai?

I`ve had this done to me in the past. On occasions when I, an obvious farang, have walked into a store and the owner has not been present, someone who maybe just minding the shop until the owner returns has given me hand gestures and nodded they`re head that appears to say; please leave, but what the person really means is that he/she does not speak English and is trying to tell me the owner is not there, but doesn`t know how to communicate with me in a way that I would understand. It`s all rather awkward for them.

So this could have been a misunderstanding on your part, which I think is more likely the case.

Otherwise if you do speak Thai, why did you not ask this woman; what is her problem?

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can't understand people busting a nut over being thrown out of a shop because they look loso, especially the part about coming back with the police. LOL.

and what can the police do?

Shops are private areas, the tenant can ban anybody he doesn't like from entering.

btw, the same thing happens also to Thais - and many westerners are still puzzled about why visible status is so important to many Thais...

1. The OP claimed he didnt look 'loso' when waved out of the shop in MBK (MBK, <deleted> - talk about a 'loso' dump !)

2. I'd be very interested to know, as a percentage, how many Thai shop-owners tell customers to leave when they have done nothing improper. Despite the replies in this thread, I'm thinking its still the minority, and they do it simply because they have no fear of retribution. We have hordes of Asian tourists in Australia who wander around our stores for hours on end, seeming looking - and in many cases handling - everything in the store, particularly clothes. Anyone found guilty of openly discriminating against a customer based on their nationality would end up in the media eventually, and no business wants that.

3. I believe I am the only person in this thread to mention 'going to the Police', and I was talking about Australian shops, particularly the 'old-school' crowd in Sydney's Haymarket where you were looked at quite strangely if you ventured into one of the Chinese shops back in the 80s. Whatever their thought processes, back then they had a very real fear of authority (particularly immigration and health inspectors) - any threat to 'call the cops' would have been taken seriously. That said, there are some chronic racists in Oz who continue to refer to the Chinese as 'chinks', 'chongs' and other pathetic variations on Chinese : II'm not onboard with that crowd.

Tyre-kickers are part and parcel of the retail experience - if Mama didn't want Junior besieged by them, she should have shelled out the rent to put him in one of those neat little hidey-holes that most of the high-end Thai handicraft places seem to occupy, usually up on the top floor away from the Hoi Polloi. Hell, she could have even slapped a 'By Appointment Only' sign on the door and had frosted glass installed to obscure the goodies inside from prying eyes. But she didn't do any of that - nope, she installed Junior in MBK. Pick any working girl in Soi 4 and ask her where the best shops are in Bangkok, and I can almost guarantee (short of fresh off the farm gals...) that her response will be 'MBK !, and there are hordes of Farang and Asian tourists there on any given day, all intent on finding a 'bargain'. Just the place for an amplifier that costs half a million baht .... ;)

(if said working girl answers 'Yaowarrat Road !', cut your losses)

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can't understand people busting a nut over being thrown out of a shop because they look loso, especially the part about coming back with the police. LOL.

and what can the police do?

Shops are private areas, the tenant can ban anybody he doesn't like from entering.

btw, the same thing happens also to Thais - and many westerners are still puzzled about why visible status is so important to many Thais...

1. The OP claimed he didnt look 'loso' when waved out of the shop in MBK (MBK, <deleted> - talk about a 'loso' dump !)

2. I'd be very interested to know, as a percentage, how many Thai shop-owners tell customers to leave when they have done nothing improper. Despite the replies in this thread, I'm thinking its still the minority, and they do it simply because they have no fear of retribution. We have hordes of Asian tourists in Australia who wander around our stores for hours on end, seeming looking - and in many cases handling - everything in the store, particularly clothes. Anyone found guilty of openly discriminating against a customer based on their nationality would end up in the media eventually, and no business wants that.

3. I believe I am the only person in this thread to mention 'going to the Police', and I was talking about Australian shops, particularly the 'old-school' crowd in Sydney's Haymarket where you were looked at quite strangely if you ventured into one of the Chinese shops back in the 80s. Whatever their thought processes, back then they had a very real fear of authority (particularly immigration and health inspectors) - any threat to 'call the cops' would have been taken seriously. That said, there are some chronic racists in Oz who continue to refer to the Chinese as 'chinks', 'chongs' and other pathetic variations on Chinese : II'm not onboard with that crowd.

Tyre-kickers are part and parcel of the retail experience - if Mama didn't want Junior besieged by them, she should have shelled out the rent to put him in one of those neat little hidey-holes that most of the high-end Thai handicraft places seem to occupy, usually up on the top floor away from the Hoi Polloi. Hell, she could have even slapped a 'By Appointment Only' sign on the door and had frosted glass installed to obscure the goodies inside from prying eyes. But she didn't do any of that - nope, she installed Junior in MBK. Pick any working girl in Soi 4 and ask her where the best shops are in Bangkok, and I can almost guarantee (short of fresh off the farm gals...) that her response will be 'MBK !, and there are hordes of Farang and Asian tourists there on any given day, all intent on finding a 'bargain'. Just the place for an amplifier that costs half a million baht .... wink.png

(if said working girl answers 'Yaowarrat Road !', cut your losses)

I have no idea what you`re on about?

The woman was probably minding the shop, couldn`t speak farang and wasn`t sure how to deal with the situation.

I don`t know how long you have been in Thailand, but unless you lose some of that Western aggression and can adapt more to the Thai way of thinking and attitudes, then you are not going to be very happy here.

Learn to chill out more, there are worse troubles at sea.

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I was shopping with my girlfriend in Krabi and she asked for the price of a purse, after being quoted 12,000 baht she said no start looking at other items. The shop owner got irate and started yelling at us about wasting her time. Why did you ask about the price if you don't want to buy? Why won't you bargain with me? Why are you wasting my time? Get out of my shop!

Business on the brink of collapse? A good sign is when you're the only customer and the owner can devote so much time.

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