Renew Category O Visa

[dereko169]

I have a 1 year category "o" visa based on marriage.

This visa was issued in the UK and is going to expire soon as I have been in Thailand for nearly 1 year.

Is it possible to renew this visa either within Thailand or by crossing a border.

I am m 45 & have only a small amount of money in the bank.

If this isn't possible, any suggestions about what I should do, I want to stay in Thailand for the foreseeable future

[Mario2008]

With your multipple non0O visa you should leave Thailand every day. You are aware you cannot stay a continuous 1 year on that visa entry, only 90 days at a time?

By leaving and re-entering just before the visa expires, you get a new 90 days of stay.

Extension of stay is possible, if you have:

an income of 40,000 baht a month (from abroad it must be cerified by your embassy)

OR

having 400,000 baht in a bankaccount in Thailand in your name for 2 months

Without that a 60 day extension is possible before you have to leave the country or meet above requirements.

[ubonjoe]

It it appears you have a multiple entry visa. If you make another border run just before visa expires you can get another 90 day entry.

You can get a 1 year extension of stay at immigration based upon marriage to a Thai if you have 400K baht in the bank for 60 days or 40K baht income proven be a letter from embassy.

You could get a new visa in Savannaket Laos with no financial proof needed or KL Malaysia with 100K baht in the bank.

Edited March 28, 2013 by ubonjoe

[transam]

Hope you have been doing the 90 day border runs. If so you can get near 15 months out of your visa.

[pizzachang]

Sort of the same question, except I have O visa, single entry - expiring 30 days after the 90 day check-in. If I do the regular 90 day, will CM Immigration automatically extend another 90 or should I just go ahead w/ renewal of my visa? Anyone have direct experience with this?

[lopburi3]

What "check in" are you talking about? There is no need to visit immigration on a single entry O visa - you got 90 day stay on entry. You can not renew a visa - either obtain a new visa or extend stay. What exactly is your stay now and when was last entry?

[pizzachang]

What "check in" are you talking about? There is no need to visit immigration on a single entry O visa - you got 90 day stay on entry. You can not renew a visa - either obtain a new visa or extend stay. What exactly is your stay now and when was last entry?

I check in every 90 days at CM Immigration. Fill out form TM 47. Get it stamped. Takes 5 minutes. A single entry is a 1 year stay visa/w 90 day check-ins. If I had to cross the border every time, I'd need to get a re-entry permit. Of course, I could actually be wrong about the "type" of visa I have. I received this visa in CM Immigration last year, assuming I did not qualify for a O-A( fell about 70K baht short of the 800K) but am married to a Thai and greatly exceed the 400K requirement. I did mean "get a new visa" and not really "renew" the old one. My next check in is 6/1 and visa expires 6/29

Edited April 30, 2013 by pizzachang

[IMA_FARANG]

Again terminology raises it's ugly head.

A VISA is issued by a Thai consulate outside of Thailand.

If you have a one year Non O visa it is good for one year from date of issue.

It should probably say "multi" in the "number of entries" space on the visa.

It will say it is valid for one year or have a date stamped or written on it that is one year from the date it was issued.

An EXTENSION to such a visa may be granted for a year based on marriage.

An extension is not a visa, there is actually no such thing as a "marriage visa". What you actually get at your local immigration is an extension to your non O visa for a year based on marriage to a Thai.

The extension requires you to do 90 day reporting at your local immigration, an actual visa does not require 90 day reporting.

If you actually have a multi entry non O visa issued outside of Thailand, each entry gives you a 90 day stamp ... a 'permitted to stay" stamp good for 90 days from the day you enter Thailand.

If that's what you have, one day before the multi entry non o visa is due to expire you can do a "border run".

That means you go to the nearest border, exit Thailand (making sure you are stamped out correctly), and then immediately re-enter Thailand.

You will get another 90 day 'permitted to stay" stamp.

Even though your visa expires the next day, you can stay legally until the date on that 90 day "permitted to stay" stamp.

That allows you to effectively stretch a one year multi entry non O visa good for one year into a 15 month stay.

You can do that on a VISA, but you can not do that on an EXTENSION.

An extension must be renewed yearly at your local immigration.

If you are doing 90 day reporting you are on a marriage extension and that extension must be renewed annually.

That's why I keep harping on the difference between a one year VISA and an EXTENSION of a visa for one year by reason of marriage.

Because they are different things, like apples and Oranges, and they require different procedures from you to use them.

Calling an extension a visa confuses many people, and causes them problems because of using the wrong terminology in referring to them.

Edited April 30, 2013 by lopburi3
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[lopburi3]

One post removed as font and quote messed up and not able to edit.

You have a one year extension of stay for Thai wife it appears. You must have obtained that with a TM.7 application and payment of 1,900 baht along with your wife and would do the exact same procedure during the last 30 days of your allowed stay for a new one year stay. Or if now meeting retirement financials you can use that.

Sort of the same question, except I have O visa, single entry - expiring 30 days after the 90 day check-in. If I do the regular 90 day, will CM Immigration automatically extend another 90 or should I just go ahead w/ renewal of my visa? Anyone have direct experience with this?

[ubonjoe]

As was written in a previous post you have an extension of stay not a visa. Your visa has already expired.

If you go to immigration when your 90 day report is due (+ 7 days would be OK) you could also do your extension of stay at the same time.

[ignis]

It it appears you have a multiple entry visa. If you make another border run just before visa expires you can get another 90 day entry.

You can get a 1 year extension of stay at immigration based upon marriage to a Thai if you have 400K baht in the bank for 60 days or 40K baht income proven be a letter from embassy.

You could get a new visa in Savannaket Laos with no financial proof needed or KL Malaysia with 100K baht in the bank.

1st off I have a problem in hearing, so to phone is not an option..........

Emails to most Embassies and Consulates go un-answered, + the ones that have a website do not state what is needed = a big problem for some of us..

So next try to find an Agent, is 50/50 if they answer, but in Savannakhet the Casino did dated 27th April 2013..........

Thai Consulate at Savannakhet province can issue a Non Immigrant O . for non Immigrant O visa application, you have to show:

- Completed application form

- 2x colour passport size (4x6cm) photos ? per person

- Original marriage certificate plus a copy

- House certificate plus a copy

- Spouse Thai ID card plus a copy

- Thai bank book with proof of sufficient fund ( 100.000 THB at least) plus a copy

The above reply is from a AGENT so no idea if the Thai Consulate do need this 'proof of funds'

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They go on to say that the Thai Consulate at Savannakhet province can issue a Non Immigrant O-A, funds must be 800,000 baht in a Thai Bank..........

To me this makes no sense at all, I thought the idea of getting a 0-A Visa from a Embassy or Consulate was that funds could be anywhere ? would have thought if someone has 800k in a Thai Bank they would get a year extension 1,900 baht at there Immigration in Thailand....

therefore question if the over 100k for a marriage Visa is correct ?? I believe about a year ago Agents were saying 30,000 in a Thai Bank. at the Thai Consulate at Savannakhet

[ubonjoe]

Financial proof for a non-o multiple entry visa based upon marriage to a Thai is not normally asked for.

It seems that if you use an agent they might very well then ask for it from reports I have read.

The info that says that an OA visa can be issued is totally false. The consulate cannot issue those unless you are a Lao citizen or a resident of Laos. What they can issue is a multiple entry o- visa if you have the financial proof mentioned which is enough to get an extension of stay.

[pizzachang]

Again terminology raises it's ugly head.

A VISA is issued by a Thai consulate outside of Thailand.

If you have a one year Non O visa it is good for one year from date of issue.

It should probably say "multi" in the "number of entries" space on the visa.

It will say it is valid for one year or have a date stamped or written on it that is one year from the date it was issued.

An EXTENSION to such a visa may be granted for a year based on marriage.

An extension is not a visa, there is actually no such thing as a "marriage visa". What you actually get at your local immigration is an extension to your non O visa for a year based on marriage to a Thai.

The extension requires you to do 90 day reporting at your local immigration, an actual visa does not require 90 day reporting.

If you actually have a multi entry non O visa issued outside of Thailand, each entry gives you a 90 day stamp ... a 'permitted to stay" stamp good for 90 days from the day you enter Thailand.

If that's what you have, one day before the multi entry non o visa is due to expire you can do a "border run".

That means you go to the nearest border, exit Thailand (making sure you are stamped out correctly), and then immediately re-enter Thailand.

You will get another 90 day 'permitted to stay" stamp.

Even though your visa expires the next day, you can stay legally until the date on that 90 day "permitted to stay" stamp.

That allows you to effectively stretch a one year multi entry non O visa good for one year into a 15 month stay.

You can do that on a VISA, but you can not do that on an EXTENSION.

An extension must be renewed yearly at your local immigration.

If you are doing 90 day reporting you are on a marriage extension and that extension must be renewed annually.

That's why I keep harping on the difference between a one year VISA and an EXTENSION of a visa for one year by reason of marriage.

Because they are different things, like apples and Oranges, and they require different procedures from you to use them.

Calling an extension a visa confuses many people, and causes them problems because of using the wrong terminology in referring to them. Thanks for clarifying the differences. I still have a question as to (if this is not a visa) why the page is stamped for a one year stay (ending 6/29) Are 1 year extensions normally granted in this fashion. From your description, I am assuming that on this last 90 day report , I'd have to cross the border. When I go to CM Immigration (as I mentioned) I fill out form TM47 and it is clearly stamped "This is not an extension of stay -Please notify Immigration of your address again on June 01 2013"

[Lite Beer]

It is not a Visa.

It is a 12 Month Extension of Stay.

Everyone has to report their address to Immigration after 90 days continuous stay.

During the final 30 days of your permision to stay you pop along to Immigration and apply for another 12 months extension.

Same as you did last year.

[fvw53]

In reply to Lopburi3 who writes

QUOTE

You have a one year extension of stayfor Thai wife it appears. You must have obtained that with a TM.7 application and payment of 1,900 baht along with your wife and would do the exact same procedure during the last 30 days of your allowed stay for a new one year stay.

UNQUOTE

I am exactly in the same situation as described and my extension expires on 28 May : one must of course never wait until the last day before the expiry but it there any regulation about the minumum of days in advance which are accepted...could I still apply 7 days in advance on May 21st?

[lopburi3]

There is no minimum - you must apply before extension expires and even then people have been allowed to apply letter if a valid reason for being late and overstay paid. But yes I would always recommend a least one week early.

[dereko169]

Anyone know how much it costs new renew a non-immigrant category 'o' visa at Savannaket?

[Mario2008]

Non-immigrant visas are single 2,000 baht and multiple 5,000 baht, but normally in local currency against an exchange rate set by the embassy (so slightly more).

Not sure if in Laos they accpet Thai baht.

[ubonjoe]

Anyone know how much it costs new renew a non-immigrant category 'o' visa at Savannaket?

You don't renew a visa you get new one.

A non-o based upon what?

Standard fee anywhere is 2000 baht for a single entry and 5000 baht for multiple entry for non immigrant visas.

They only accept Baht in Savannakhet.

Edited June 26, 2013 by ubonjoe

[dereko169]

Based on marriage

[dereko169]

What are the requirements for an extension of stay on a non immigrant category 'o' visa based on marriage & how much does it cost?

[Lite Beer]

See the post above your one.

[dereko169]

That doesn't really help me, I need to know what documents I need etc, do I need to have proof of income? & what is the cost of an extension of stay?

[jpinx]

Is is possible to get a non-O visa based on retirement at an immigration office *within* Thailand? I will have a visa-exempt permit to enter stamped at the airport on arrival. Irish passport. Will a declaration of my income be sufficient if it is backed up by a sheaf of suitably highlighted bank statements for the previous 3 months ?

I don't want to hijack this thread, but it's pretty wide ranging already

[lopburi3]

It is a 2,000 baht fee to convert and needs to be done with 15 days or more remaining normally. The proof of being over age 50 and having embassy letter or income 65k or more per month or bank deposit of 800k here and bank passbook.

For extension of stay for marriage question you need 400k in bank 2 months or 40k per month income and visit immigration with spouse and there ID card/home register/marriage certificate/photos together with a least one with house number showing and proof of residence address and fill out TM.7 and pay 1,900 baht fee and return in 30 days after interview/signing of paperwork/copies.

For multi entry non immigrant O visa at Savannakhet marriage certificate/copy of spouse ID card and home register at the prices listed above.

On forums it is not polite to use bold font as it is considered shouting. I know for some of us it is easier but best to avoid.

[jpinx]

It is a 2,000 baht fee to convert and needs to be done with 15 days or more remaining normally. The proof of being over age 50 and having embassy letter or income 65k or more per month or bank deposit of 800k here and bank passbook.

Thanks lopburi

I have read that some people have done the financials with a self-signed very clearly laid out declaration of income, backed up by the bank statements on which the declaration is based, with suitable highlighting and referencing. This was said to have been sufficient and no embassy letter was needed. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Sorry I can not find the reference where I read this a little while ago.

[dereko169]

Thanks for your help guys (sorry about the bold)

Apologies for being a naive in these matters but I have not been in this situation before, that's why I am asking here.

1 final question:

I can't meet the financial requirements for a visa extension so is it true that if I go to Suvannaket I can get a new 1 year non immigrant O visa based on marriage without any need to produce proof of income/money in bank?

Also although I am still married, we have recently separated. Would my wife need to come with me to Suvannaket?

[Mario2008]

With paperwork as described above you will get a multiple non-O from savanakhet without the need for showing financials.

The wife does not have to come with you.

[dereko169]

It's looking like a trip to Suvannaket is the only option for me then, do I need the original marriage certificate or is a copy ok?

[ubonjoe]

Original and copy of marriage certificate.