webfact Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Tilting building near Bangkok 'should be demolished'THE NATION ONE OF TWO seven-storey dormitories under construction near Zeer Rangsit mall north of Bangkok was declared off limits after it tilted precariously. No injuries were reported.BANGKOK: -- A seven-storey apartment building under construction at the back of Zeer department store north of Bangkok has been declared off limits, after it tilted and was inspected by local administrators.Public works officials with Khu Khot Municipality in Pathum Thani, who have jurisdiction over the site, said details about the land owner and firm constructing the building will be announced later. Construction stopped on Sunday night after a verbal warning by public works officials, and owners living by the building filed a complaint with police.Thanes Weerasiri, head of Engineering Institute of Thailand under HM's Patronage, said the building has tilted at six degrees, and should be demolished, or heightened and rebuilt. The tilting was caused by the foundation not being solid enough, and the stakes unable to manage the total weight. Heightening of the building could cost the project owner the same amount of money needed to demolish and rebuild it."Personally I think it should be demolished and rebuilt," he said.Building had continued until recently, before the inclination became visible on Sunday night, but workers have since been evacuated. Signboards showing details of the project, including its owner, have been removed since the news emerged, except for one notice about the construction firm: Choke Charoen Co Ltd.The construction continued for more than a year, and it has been extended once, public works chief Nares Srimuang said. He said a civil engineer would soon determine if the builders violated regulations or implemented beyond the conditions originally requested.-- The Nation 2013-04-02 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crossy Posted April 2, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2013 Oops! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Amazing! I really hope the workers have been evacuated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post watcharacters Posted April 2, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2013 How would increasing the height of the building be any approach to addressing its tilting? I obviously missed something. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pitrevie Posted April 2, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2013 Will anyone be moving into the other building? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Nice foundation work..... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pimay1 Posted April 2, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2013 Nice foundation work..... :-) I don't suppose they are using the same engineers that were used on this one in Shanghai. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Katipo Posted April 2, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2013 I'm sure they'll come up with a low cost solution without the need to demolish so the building can be safely occupied within a matter of months 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Nice foundation work..... :-)I don't suppose they are using the same engineers that were used on this one in Shanghai. Not sure if it was that building , but in a photo of a giant Chinese building laying on its side, it showed the concrete foundation pilings were hollow and all snapped off. Will be curious what charges will be leveled against the Thai building department for looking the other way while this poorly designed and constructed building was being completed...Oh sorry just dreaming, time to get back to the real world !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Nice foundation work..... :-)I don't suppose they are using the same engineers that were used on this one in Shanghai. Not sure if it was that building , but in a photo of a giant Chinese building laying on its side, it showed the concrete foundation pilings were hollow and all snapped off. Will be curious what charges will be leveled against the Thai building department for looking the other way while this poorly designed and constructed building was being completed...Oh sorry just dreaming, time to get back to the real world !! Yes that is the same building with the hollow pilings with no rebar to boot. Link below. http://www.hoax-slayer.com/13-story-buliding-collapse-china.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) Nice foundation work..... :-)I don't suppose they are using the same engineers that were used on this one in Shanghai. Not sure if it was that building , but in a photo of a giant Chinese building laying on its side, it showed the concrete foundation pilings were hollow and all snapped off. Will be curious what charges will be leveled against the Thai building department for looking the other way while this poorly designed and constructed building was being completed...Oh sorry just dreaming, time to get back to the real world !!Yes that is the same building with the hollow pilings with no rebar to boot. Link below. http://www.hoax-slayer.com/13-story-buliding-collapse-china.shtml That's the one !!! The link shows great footage of the hollow pilings. However with the mind boggling loss of face for China and its construction industry, China came down pretty hard on the company. " SHANGHAI - The two top shareholders of a real estate firm responsible for developing the Lotus Riverside residential complex, where a nearly complete building fell to its side last year, were sentenced to life in prison on Wednesday." Guess no chance of the developers facing charges here !!!!! :-) You could almost feel sorry for the Chinese developers in prison, with no street cred. At the prison, another life comes up to the developer and asks " Hey buddy, what are you in for ???" The developer replies " Uhhh uhhhh making bad foundations".... lol Edited April 2, 2013 by EyesWideOpen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycloneJ Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) owners living by the building filed a complaint with police. I suppose there is a special form to fill out for this. ***** good series of photos and a video here Edited April 2, 2013 by cycloneJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 owners living by the building filed a complaint with police. I suppose there is a special form to fill out for this. ***** good series of photos and a video here I like the safety first sign displayed onsite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamhar Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 "Personally I think it should be demolished and rebuilt," Duh! If they were able to "fix it", make the builders live in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EyesWideOpen Posted April 2, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2013 The future >>>> 1. The developers will face no charges for shoddy work 2. The building department will face no charges for looking the other way 3. The building will be quietly fixed on the cheap 4. This story will gently fade away..... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaddeus Posted April 2, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2013 All erections in Thailand are temporary anyway. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 owners living by the building filed a complaint with police. I suppose there is a special form to fill out for this. ***** good series of photos and a video here I like the safety first sign displayed onsite. Hahaha I saw that sign too. Maybe it should have been moved to the company offices of whoever was in charge of doing the engineering.... :-) Really not that hard to fix, just a matter of doing some studying on how the Leaning Tower of Pisa was stabilized. I am not kidding. By ground drilling on the opposite side, they were able to even out the pressure of the subsidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 All erections in Thailand are temporary anyway.But some erections last longer than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocko Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 How would increasing the height of the building be any approach to addressing its tilting?I obviously missed something.They put more floors on at the opposite angle and that would act as a counterweight and balance the structure then it could then just sink in the vertical plane so if you want to sleep there go for a top floor room you might get a few years and you wouldn't need a lift.Count me out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) The whole building tilt goes to prove that a mix of, ''Three of sand and one of cement beat Viagra any day in ensuring any erection is upright rigid longstanding monument to the nations building industry's engineering manhood Edited April 2, 2013 by siampolee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 How about the "Crooked House of Windsor" built in 1592 and still standing and in use as a restaurant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycloneJ Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) re #18 would that mean the people who bought ground-floor apartments now have a basement apartment? Hope they get a discount for the loss of view! Sixth floor becomes fifth and so on. It'll be demolished if it doesn't self-destruct first. Edited April 2, 2013 by cycloneJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 It's called "Short Piling"....usually a criminal offence with the engineers and management doing time, although of course...here in Thailand, very little will happen.....builders, town engineers etc., will walk Happens with some regularity in China, India etc..... A massive job to repair...better just knock it down, but again.....it'll probably stay there for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Wasn't there a big high rise hotel built on the Chao Phraya river that started tilting or am I dreaming again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocko Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 owners living by the building filed a complaint with police. I suppose there is a special form to fill out for this. ***** good series of photos and a video here I like the safety first sign displayed onsite. The sign was put up afterI see the safety sign on a lot of new build sites what I don't see is Hard Hats, Safety Boots good Scaffold , Harness, or safe working practices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Jengaaaaaa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePai Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Acrow props will sort it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) How would increasing the height of the building be any approach to addressing its tilting? I obviously missed something. Something is lost in translation I think, but there is a way to jack a building like that up and level it. It is then held in place by new steel literally screwed into the ground. They are called helical piers. That steel would remind you of a very large post hole auger for a tractor. They use a bunch of them, and after they are literally screwed deep into the ground, they lift and permanently hold the building. There is another similar method using jacks that stay in the ground. They are called push piers. Edited April 2, 2013 by NeverSure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 "Personally I think it should be demolished and rebuilt," Thanes Weerasiri, head of Engineering Institute of Thailand under HM's Patronage said. You think or are you sure Sherlock? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 And when it comes down, lets hope NO ONE EVER decides to live in the twin right next to it. The idea that the footings and ground under the twin is in any better condition is absurd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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