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The bottom line is that Thailand is not as cheap as it once was. With the popularity of the country soaring for tourism and retirees, coupled with he rising baht and the sinking USD, GBP, EUR and YEN, it is costing more and more for the casual tourist and especially for expats on fixed incomes to visit or live in Thailand. The USD hit 28.67 at the end of last week. Where will it stop? Some say 24 baht to the USD. Many will be packing up and heading to cheaper locales should this happen. No way to avoid it.

All the while the OP is talking about spending in excess of 15K baht a day on lodging, food, beverage and entertainment. That's 450K baht a month in spend. Either the OP is not your average expat or he's the biggest troll we've seen here in a while. Personally, I believe the later is true. In any event, the OP's claims have little to no bearing on the average expat living in the LOS.

I have to agree with you. Trolling! Holiday, versus an actual living budget!

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You want Cheap? , Clear, warm waters, not so many tourists, friendlier locals? Ok, maybe not as much to choose from. Forget Thailand, Move on over to Sihanoukville, Cambodia

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A breakdown of prices of various items comparing Bangkok to Phuket - Cost of Living Comparison

That was an eye opener.

Perhaps the more interesting comparison is crime rates. I'll gladly pay more to stay in a safer city. Phuket fails abysmally compared with Bangkok according to this survey which suggests crime rates are twice as high in Phuket http://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Thailand&country2=Thailand&city1=Bangkok&city2=Phuket

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You want Cheap? , Clear, warm waters, not so many tourists, friendlier locals? Ok, maybe not as much to choose from. Forget Thailand, Move on over to Sihanoukville, Cambodia

Waste of time since they closed down The Dolphin and built a supermarket where Poco Loco used to be!sad.png

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IMO Phuket is the worst place of Thailandbah.gif Way too many tourists (mainly russians), the only place in Thailand where I have heard a Thai vendor say to a customer:"<deleted> OFF!", in general the Thais in Phuket are UNfriendlier than anywhere else, traffic is horrible, transportation is over-the-top expensive and corruption is the rule.

I have stayed there for 5 months and it was 4 months and 30 days too long; ever so happy I escaped that hellhole wai.gif Hopefully I never have to go back there! I can't think of any reason anywayph34r.png

PS Kang Eang is a notorious hangout for high-class mafia.... It also gave me a 'good' food poisoning for high pricesick.gif . Better to avoid that place at all costs...

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It seems to me the substantive issue is that both central Bangkok and Phuket are extremely expensive places (by Thai standards), comparable to major international cities in Europe, at least in terms of some of the most visible expenditure categories (accomodation, food/drink, leisure) for visitors (not residents). A high end steak or italian restaurant or an upscale bar in Bangkok or Phuket is comparable in price to central London. This is the biggest change over the past few years and reflects the strength of the baht versus the weak pound, significant land price inflation in central Bangkok/Phuket, and a flood of foreign money pouring in from Asia. Phuket really is the playground of the super rich in SE Asia for whom 7000bt green fees or 40000bt boat day charters or 20000bt hotel rooms are normal. This stratospheric inflation at the top end of the market seems to be pulling all prices up. At the high end of the market I am not sure there is much difference in price between the two, not least because it is hard to compare a 5* city centre hotel with a beach resort.

At the margin, Bangkok is cheaper for hotel rooms, mainly because of the over-supply of 5* hotels - which charge 4* prices. You can still get amazing hotel deals in Bangkok at the upper end - Bt5000 at the brand new 5* Marriott Residence on Sathorn for a 65 sq m room. Golf is vastly cheaper in Bangkok. I think restuarant and bar prices are comparable. Taxis, car hire broadly similar. Likewise spa/massage. Retail is much the same as all the malls have the same chains. However in Phuket you can spend all day at the beach on a sun lounger for 100bt - try doing anything in Bk for 100bt all day. Nightlife, Bk wins hands down.

I am just back from a business trip to Singapore. That really is an expensive place and makes Bk feel quite cheap by comparason.

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The bottom line is that Thailand is not as cheap as it once was. With the popularity of the country soaring for tourism and retirees, coupled with he rising baht and the sinking USD, GBP, EUR and YEN, it is costing more and more for the casual tourist and especially for expats on fixed incomes to visit or live in Thailand. The USD hit 28.67 at the end of last week. Where will it stop? Some say 24 baht to the USD. Many will be packing up and heading to cheaper locales should this happen. No way to avoid it.

All the while the OP is talking about spending in excess of 15K baht a day on lodging, food, beverage and entertainment. That's 450K baht a month in spend. Either the OP is not your average expat or he's the biggest troll we've seen here in a while. Personally, I believe the later is true. In any event, the OP's claims have little to no bearing on the average expat living in the LOS.

My comment was not in regards to what i spend daily, monthly or yearly however more in regards to the physical cost difference, as in holidaying yes i live on a potential permeant holiday going on nearly 2 years now.

with breaks away from thailand.

this is not a dick size contest, but infact a discussion as to why it is more expensive and dont give me the rubbish its an island - phi phi is cheap, koh lanta is cheap compared to bkk or even phuket.

as stated i do not intend on leaving, i am not a arm chair warrior sitting in the UK i live in Rawai (the nice part lol, without all the bar girls anyway pestering me).

my comments are facts not fiction

even comparing the cost of the fiesta buying it was 670k baht where as in england 437k baht = 233k baht more expensive, minus 100k baht mentioned in another post, as i believe we are meant to get this back but unsure as to whether we will as apparently the government have un-budgeted by 30 billion baht ;(

Occasionally and very occasionally tonight in fact i didnt fancy wine connection whilst in there for 3 hours having a discussion with a friend and by the time i left we stoppe of at a thai resturant however i cant stand the food (i did not move here for the food) and that cost 560 baht ! 2 chicken rice. 2 large leos, rice in water, green thing, so thai food is not cheap like you all mention 110 baht. and i asked for the bill (normally the wife sorts it) so as to put feedback on here.

food was crap (not thai bashing but to me it was horrible, to many others they would like it) and drinking leo well it isn't nice is it!

Car insurance - 15k baht ppc per car - bloody cheaper than swampy especially as some little runts like to smash into it every bloody month!!

Picture of me on Koh Lanta, you may know me or seen me about, (i find it very strange how expats hate each other and call each other liars on here. everyone i know i like and i respect other wise i would not talk to them yet you see all the bashing on here, and you wonder why people even come on here, and i mean the bashers as well). - live in peace.

I have never been to chang mai even though i want too but the thought of driving that distance is off-putting and the admittedly we could fly but would need to rent a scooter and the wife does not allow me any where near the things!

On a big boy!!! before i was banned from ever setting foot near one again sad.png got a lovely burn mark on my leg lol and 2 broken bones in the foot to contest to it .

Me and my fiesta smile.png - great car, dont know why i never got one before for quick run arounds, handles corners at speed well, decent on the fuel. and never a problem bar the iphone connection to the car cd system!!! 3 times ive had to replace it but at 90baht a piece it is cheap smile.png

for your last comment, i did not say the average expat living in thailand however it depends, i know people here with 35 million euro in the bank buying a new merc one month and range rover last week, partially owns every bar, resturnat he goes to as he bails them out, then another who spends more on his nose habit a day than the "avg expat" spends on beer a week/2 weeks.

there are people here who spend a lot of money, im not being compared to them nor to you, the entire point of this post was to do with cost difference compared to like for like.

not comparing fine dining to street venders, also not saying ive got more money than you or any of that old tripe you will come back with, but quiet simply to the cost difference, like for like taxi is more expensive, like for like food, like for like wine. the list goes on.

dont believe me your more than welcome to join me in my daily routine when i am back from Singapore (leave tomorrow night) however you are paying for your self.

Hope that cleared it up, now no more bashing, please keep this constructive. and ask questions why this is allowed to happen, explain why if you know why. compare to other parts of thailand.

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In 10 years, I've never seen an aggressive english drunk. Just happy ones.

Fail to see how this stereotype came about on Phuket.

Must have been a fight in the bus station as that is the only place he has been.

More likely to see arrogant bogon aussies fighting here now the Brits can't afford it here any more.

Oh spare me the poor, poor Brits. Can't afford it? How many baht do you get to the sterling? Then do some research and work out how much us "arrogant bogon aussies" get?? Funny, I had a night out last night in Patong and was surrounded by maronic, halfwit poms, making an absolute fool of themselves. Poor Brits, colonialism has surely died, have to work a little harder and save a little harder like the rest of us have been doing since day dot.

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IMO Phuket is the worst place of Thailandbah.gif Way too many tourists (mainly russians), the only place in Thailand where I have heard a Thai vendor say to a customer:"<deleted> OFF!", in general the Thais in Phuket are UNfriendlier than anywhere else, traffic is horrible, transportation is over-the-top expensive and corruption is the rule.

I have stayed there for 5 months and it was 4 months and 30 days too long; ever so happy I escaped that hellhole wai.gif Hopefully I never have to go back there! I can't think of any reason anywayph34r.png

PS Kang Eang is a notorious hangout for high-class mafia.... It also gave me a 'good' food poisoning for high pricesick.gif . Better to avoid that place at all costs...

Yeah if you hang out in Patong, sure. I personally live a great life here, live in middle of island, have a good job and earn good coin. I am surrounded by Thai people who are pleasant and who don't have to deal with the s@@t that those further south deal with every day!

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IMO Phuket is the worst place of Thailandbah.gif Way too many tourists (mainly russians), the only place in Thailand where I have heard a Thai vendor say to a customer:"<deleted> OFF!", in general the Thais in Phuket are UNfriendlier than anywhere else, traffic is horrible, transportation is over-the-top expensive and corruption is the rule.

I have stayed there for 5 months and it was 4 months and 30 days too long; ever so happy I escaped that hellhole wai.gif Hopefully I never have to go back there! I can't think of any reason anywayph34r.png

PS Kang Eang is a notorious hangout for high-class mafia.... It also gave me a 'good' food poisoning for high pricesick.gif . Better to avoid that place at all costs...

Kang Eang, i like because of the view, and only has there been trouble there once many years ago, someone was shot, however since then it is relatively calm.

each to their own on the views. but off topic...

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IMO Phuket is the worst place of Thailandbah.gif Way too many tourists (mainly russians), the only place in Thailand where I have heard a Thai vendor say to a customer:"<deleted> OFF!", in general the Thais in Phuket are UNfriendlier than anywhere else, traffic is horrible, transportation is over-the-top expensive and corruption is the rule.

I have stayed there for 5 months and it was 4 months and 30 days too long; ever so happy I escaped that hellhole wai.gif Hopefully I never have to go back there! I can't think of any reason anywayph34r.png

PS Kang Eang is a notorious hangout for high-class mafia.... It also gave me a 'good' food poisoning for high pricesick.gif . Better to avoid that place at all costs...

Yeah if you hang out in Patong, sure. I personally live a great life here, live in middle of island, have a good job and earn good coin. I am surrounded by Thai people who are pleasant and who don't have to deal with the s@@t that those further south deal with every day!

Yes that is sometimes the better way, the expats are far worse to themselves as a group than they are to the Thais, Russians are ok (well a few of them, Alexandria of Eva group is a real charmer).

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In 10 years, I've never seen an aggressive english drunk. Just happy ones.

Fail to see how this stereotype came about on Phuket.

Must have been a fight in the bus station as that is the only place he has been.

More likely to see arrogant bogon aussies fighting here now the Brits can't afford it here any more.

Oh spare me the poor, poor Brits. Can't afford it? How many baht do you get to the sterling? Then do some research and work out how much us "arrogant bogon aussies" get?? Funny, I had a night out last night in Patong and was surrounded by maronic, halfwit poms, making an absolute fool of themselves. Poor Brits, colonialism has surely died, have to work a little harder and save a little harder like the rest of us have been doing since day dot.

Oh yes, the Aussies are a nice bunch, to a certain degree, however we are going off topic please keep on topic, not bash each other, you would not do in public so why on here???

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You want Cheap? , Clear, warm waters, not so many tourists, friendlier locals? Ok, maybe not as much to choose from. Forget Thailand, Move on over to Sihanoukville, Cambodia

Waste of time since they closed down The Dolphin and built a supermarket where Poco Loco used to be!sad.png

Trang is untouched and beautiful and very very cheap currently (before krabi really takes off anyway).

70 baht a large/yai tiger

food mixture of chines and thai, editable and nice,

accomodation - trumpet something huge one 2.5k baht a night but seen better years !!!

nightlife is less atomic than Phuket but still has a huge nightclub.

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The bottom line is that Thailand is not as cheap as it once was. With the popularity of the country soaring for tourism and retirees, coupled with he rising baht and the sinking USD, GBP, EUR and YEN, it is costing more and more for the casual tourist and especially for expats on fixed incomes to visit or live in Thailand. The USD hit 28.67 at the end of last week. Where will it stop? Some say 24 baht to the USD. Many will be packing up and heading to cheaper locales should this happen. No way to avoid it.

All the while the OP is talking about spending in excess of 15K baht a day on lodging, food, beverage and entertainment. That's 450K baht a month in spend. Either the OP is not your average expat or he's the biggest troll we've seen here in a while. Personally, I believe the later is true. In any event, the OP's claims have little to no bearing on the average expat living in the LOS.

I have to agree with you. Trolling! Holiday, versus an actual living budget!

Jim i believe i answered this above... not constructive looking for giving a bashing without actually talking about the comparisons....

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It seems to me the substantive issue is that both central Bangkok and Phuket are extremely expensive places (by Thai standards), comparable to major international cities in Europe, at least in terms of some of the most visible expenditure categories (accomodation, food/drink, leisure) for visitors (not residents). A high end steak or italian restaurant or an upscale bar in Bangkok or Phuket is comparable in price to central London. This is the biggest change over the past few years and reflects the strength of the baht versus the weak pound, significant land price inflation in central Bangkok/Phuket, and a flood of foreign money pouring in from Asia. Phuket really is the playground of the super rich in SE Asia for whom 7000bt green fees or 40000bt boat day charters or 20000bt hotel rooms are normal. This stratospheric inflation at the top end of the market seems to be pulling all prices up. At the high end of the market I am not sure there is much difference in price between the two, not least because it is hard to compare a 5* city centre hotel with a beach resort.

At the margin, Bangkok is cheaper for hotel rooms, mainly because of the over-supply of 5* hotels - which charge 4* prices. You can still get amazing hotel deals in Bangkok at the upper end - Bt5000 at the brand new 5* Marriott Residence on Sathorn for a 65 sq m room. Golf is vastly cheaper in Bangkok. I think restuarant and bar prices are comparable. Taxis, car hire broadly similar. Likewise spa/massage. Retail is much the same as all the malls have the same chains. However in Phuket you can spend all day at the beach on a sun lounger for 100bt - try doing anything in Bk for 100bt all day. Nightlife, Bk wins hands down.

I am just back from a business trip to Singapore. That really is an expensive place and makes Bk feel quite cheap by comparason.

Yes Singapore is more expensive however there is choice in price swisortel is approx 12 k a night or mandarin oriental is 35k safe to say mandarin as nice as it was i will never stay at again as it is taxi journeys everywhere where as swisortel walk out off to your left you have a lovely italian resturnat, further on past mcds you have the tapas bar and resturnat. far better food, however for 2 people price for food was 104 singaporen dollas, plus drinks at 84 dollas rings to mind, we fancied going there for a short 5 day holiday.

singapore days 10th march to 16th march

Malaysia we travelled to on the 1st april to the 6th, i drove it as i fancied taking a drive around, the major highlight of malaysia was george town however we stayed on Miami beach and i must admit there is little if any entertainment but we did like bora bora beach bar which was very cheap when you compare to either Phuket or bkk,

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It seems to me the substantive issue is that both central Bangkok and Phuket are extremely expensive places (by Thai standards), comparable to major international cities in Europe, at least in terms of some of the most visible expenditure categories (accomodation, food/drink, leisure) for visitors (not residents). A high end steak or italian restaurant or an upscale bar in Bangkok or Phuket is comparable in price to central London. This is the biggest change over the past few years and reflects the strength of the baht versus the weak pound, significant land price inflation in central Bangkok/Phuket, and a flood of foreign money pouring in from Asia. Phuket really is the playground of the super rich in SE Asia for whom 7000bt green fees or 40000bt boat day charters or 20000bt hotel rooms are normal. This stratospheric inflation at the top end of the market seems to be pulling all prices up. At the high end of the market I am not sure there is much difference in price between the two, not least because it is hard to compare a 5* city centre hotel with a beach resort.

At the margin, Bangkok is cheaper for hotel rooms, mainly because of the over-supply of 5* hotels - which charge 4* prices. You can still get amazing hotel deals in Bangkok at the upper end - Bt5000 at the brand new 5* Marriott Residence on Sathorn for a 65 sq m room. Golf is vastly cheaper in Bangkok. I think restuarant and bar prices are comparable. Taxis, car hire broadly similar. Likewise spa/massage. Retail is much the same as all the malls have the same chains. However in Phuket you can spend all day at the beach on a sun lounger for 100bt - try doing anything in Bk for 100bt all day. Nightlife, Bk wins hands down.

I am just back from a business trip to Singapore. That really is an expensive place and makes Bk feel quite cheap by comparason.

I just don't get Singapore,why would anyone want to live or even visit a City/Little Island/Country that is double the price of most capital cities in Europe?sick.gif

I also finds the Singaporeans/Straits Chinese extremely rude and colder than a wet fish,although I'll admit the Indians are generally friendly enough!

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I sometimes hear people talk about living up country its cheaper but in my opinion the cheapest place is just outside Bkk like Patum Thani or Nontaburi. The only thing that might make living close to Bkk more expensive is like of will power. ha ha

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Bangkok, like any other major city, has a range of lifestyle options with respect to accommodation, shopping, dining, transport etc. However, pollution is a significant factor for living long term.

Within Thailand, Phuket is possibly the nearest to Bangkok in terms of the same options and degrees of quality, albeit with a wider range of sporting and recreation facilities. Whilst the traffic has increased substantially over the last 3 or 4 years, you can still open your car window and breath fresh air if you want.

You can live cheaply in Bangkok, as you can live cheaply in Phuket. Of course there's always the other end of the spending spectrum too, and the same choices are there if you're looking to spend big bucks.

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A breakdown of prices of various items comparing Bangkok to Phuket - Cost of Living Comparison

That was an eye opener.

Perhaps the more interesting comparison is crime rates. I'll gladly pay more to stay in a safer city. Phuket fails abysmally compared with Bangkok according to this survey which suggests crime rates are twice as high in Phuket http://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Thailand&country2=Thailand&city1=Bangkok&city2=Phuket

No, that survey only says something about feelings, no actual statistics. On top of that, 3 respondents, so this must be the least reliable survey ever published.

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IMO Phuket is the worst place of Thailandbah.gif Way too many tourists (mainly russians), the only place in Thailand where I have heard a Thai vendor say to a customer:"<deleted> OFF!", in general the Thais in Phuket are UNfriendlier than anywhere else, traffic is horrible, transportation is over-the-top expensive and corruption is the rule.

I have stayed there for 5 months and it was 4 months and 30 days too long; ever so happy I escaped that hellhole wai.gif Hopefully I never have to go back there! I can't think of any reason anywayph34r.png

PS Kang Eang is a notorious hangout for high-class mafia.... It also gave me a 'good' food poisoning for high pricesick.gif . Better to avoid that place at all costs...

I won't argue with you about your view of Phuket, your view, but no, Kan Eang is not a notorious high-class mafia hangout.

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IMO Phuket is the worst place of Thailandbah.gif Way too many tourists (mainly russians), the only place in Thailand where I have heard a Thai vendor say to a customer:"<deleted> OFF!", in general the Thais in Phuket are UNfriendlier than anywhere else, traffic is horrible, transportation is over-the-top expensive and corruption is the rule.

I have stayed there for 5 months and it was 4 months and 30 days too long; ever so happy I escaped that hellhole wai.gif Hopefully I never have to go back there! I can't think of any reason anywayph34r.png

PS Kang Eang is a notorious hangout for high-class mafia.... It also gave me a 'good' food poisoning for high pricesick.gif . Better to avoid that place at all costs...

Kang Eang, i like because of the view, and only has there been trouble there once many years ago, someone was shot, however since then it is relatively calm.

each to their own on the views. but off topic...

No, no shooting at Kan Eang. At least not that I know of, not that I could find online as well.

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A high end steak or italian restaurant or an upscale bar in Bangkok or Phuket is comparable in price to central London.

why wouldn't it be? the meat or spirits needs to be imported, the chef is a farang an the rent is high

as to Kan Eang being a mafia hang out, ur kidding right? and which one or did u mean both?

MY only complaint over the years is the price seem sot have really increased but still great food an service

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So here we have again this nonsense site, claiming that cars on Phuket are cheaper than in Bangkok, claiming that booze on Phuket is cheaper than in Bangkok, claiming that cigarretes on Phuket are cheaper than in Bangkok, claiming that mortgages on Phuket are cheaper than in Bangkok, etc.

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Bangkok is a shithole. I don't care if its 1000% cheaper. I spent 5 years there and I wouldnt return for anything. Not even a holiday. Traffic and pollution is beyond comprehension.

Forget about running around town to get a few things done. Choose one thing a day because traffic will prohibit more than that.

About things being cheaper, that's because you're closer to the supply chain and less monopoly in place.

Phuket>>>>daylight>>>>Bangkok.

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The bottom line is that Thailand is not as cheap as it once was. With the popularity of the country soaring for tourism and retirees, coupled with he rising baht and the sinking USD, GBP, EUR and YEN, it is costing more and more for the casual tourist and especially for expats on fixed incomes to visit or live in Thailand. The USD hit 28.67 at the end of last week. Where will it stop? Some say 24 baht to the USD. Many will be packing up and heading to cheaper locales should this happen. No way to avoid it.

All the while the OP is talking about spending in excess of 15K baht a day on lodging, food, beverage and entertainment. That's 450K baht a month in spend. Either the OP is not your average expat or he's the biggest troll we've seen here in a while. Personally, I believe the later is true. In any event, the OP's claims have little to no bearing on the average expat living in the LOS.

I have to agree with you. Trolling! Holiday, versus an actual living budget!

Jim i believe i answered this above... not constructive looking for giving a bashing without actually talking about the comparisons....

It must be nice to read and respond selectively. I gave comments early on in this thread that were constructive. Now you accuse me of not reading and bashing? As far as I'm concerned I will keep my thought's to myself about your photos and what opinion I may form from them... Good luck with your life.

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The bottom line is that Thailand is not as cheap as it once was. With the popularity of the country soaring for tourism and retirees, coupled with he rising baht and the sinking USD, GBP, EUR and YEN, it is costing more and more for the casual tourist and especially for expats on fixed incomes to visit or live in Thailand. The USD hit 28.67 at the end of last week. Where will it stop? Some say 24 baht to the USD. Many will be packing up and heading to cheaper locales should this happen. No way to avoid it.

All the while the OP is talking about spending in excess of 15K baht a day on lodging, food, beverage and entertainment. That's 450K baht a month in spend. Either the OP is not your average expat or he's the biggest troll we've seen here in a while. Personally, I believe the later is true. In any event, the OP's claims have little to no bearing on the average expat living in the LOS.

I have to agree with you. Trolling! Holiday, versus an actual living budget!

Jim i believe i answered this above... not constructive looking for giving a bashing without actually talking about the comparisons....

It must be nice to read and respond selectively. I gave comments early on in this thread that were constructive. Now you accuse me of not reading and bashing? As far as I'm concerned I will keep my thought's to myself about your photos and what opinion I may form from them... Good luck with your life.

Photos what on earth are you on about?

Photos were loaded as a lot of posts on here people slate or make their own opinions - therefore I loaded to point out no I am not talking shit, no I am not a tourist, no I am not talking bs - nipping all the snide remarks in the bud before they are actioned.

As in your post it went off topic I was trying to stop any bashing that forum members love to do on here against other forum members or Thai people

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Bangkok is a shithole. I don't care if its 1000% cheaper. I spent 5 years there and I wouldnt return for anything. Not even a holiday. Traffic and pollution is beyond comprehension.

Forget about running around town to get a few things done. Choose one thing a day because traffic will prohibit more than that.

About things being cheaper, that's because you're closer to the supply chain and less monopoly in place.

Phuket>>>>daylight>>>>Bangkok.

I take it you have never been on the sky train then? Or been around the nice areas such as central world?

Like any city there is a dump area and a nice area

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