alfieconn Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Can someone tell me why your manager persists in playing a Wing Back system when you don't have the players to play that system ? Edited March 23, 2015 by alfieconn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Skeletor could be in for it as well. He needfs a 10 match ban for that, a cowardly, bitter act.How the ref never saw that is beyond me. just because ye losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Skeletor could be in for it as well. He needfs a 10 match ban for that, a cowardly, bitter act.How the ref never saw that is beyond me. just because ye losing Be careful what you say Bernard, they are very touchy today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Flint Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Skeletor could be in for it as well. He needfs a 10 match ban for that, a cowardly, bitter act.How the ref never saw that is beyond me. just because ye losing Be careful what you say Bernard, they are very touchy today WHO CARES LOL. BTW Alfie Conn was a great player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Can someone tell me why your manager persists in playing a Wing Back system when you don't have the players to play that system ? Oh I don't know... maybe its something to do with winning 33 points out of a possible 39 before yesterday since actually changing to this system ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Can someone tell me why your manager persists in playing a Wing Back system when you don't have the players to play that system ? Oh I don't know... maybe its something to do with winning 33 points out of a possible 39 before yesterday since actually changing to this system ??? Is it really ! well done Ok so lets just sat that some of his wing back selections puzzle me ! Edited March 23, 2015 by alfieconn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Jesus Christ we've been diabolical here. Totally playing into United hands. I can't recall a more alehouse United than this and we're making them look good. Shocking. Brendon Rodgers got it totally wrong. He starts off with the same system that was exposed at Swansea. So, if Garry Monk could work out how to expose it why on earth would he think that Louis van Gaal wouldn't? Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Jesus Christ we've been diabolical here. Totally playing into United hands. I can't recall a more alehouse United than this and we're making them look good. Shocking. Brendon Rodgers got it totally wrong. He starts off with the same system that was exposed at Swansea. So, if Garry Monk could work out how to expose it why on earth would he think that Louis van Gaal wouldn't? Strange. I can see why people are blaming the formation now, Its very easy to pick holes in the system after a defeat like that- but the reality is we weren't exactly going to change a system thats been so successful this calendar year just before the Utd game, maybe in a cup game or home against a bottom of the table team. Could the manager react to what was going on yesterday? - I thought he did by bringing Stevie on - but then the there was that moment of madness from the Captain which you can't account for happened. There was a periods towards the end of the second half were we pushed up 10 yards and got Sakho bringing the ball out more, and we gave them less time when their defenders were on the ball - same goes even with ten men - they suddenly looked nervous and memento started to go our way, but its needs a collective effort to pull it off from front to back. The fact is 'no body' showed up yesterday - Moreno had a stinker and was at fault for both goals imo, thats ultimately why we lost (not the system) he's looked good in many other games, We were poor all over the pitch - poor passing, poor positioning, no closing down, no urgency to tackle or get in the oppositions face and and and... The opposition seemed to grow in confidence. They were better man for man yesterday and its as simple as that - we looked nervy and maybe thats what you get with a young side??? they looked more like the bloody homeside and their passing was crisp and direct, they were crucially clinical in front of goal. Going back to the Swansea game you mention, I thought they (Swansea) were excellent by the way but burned themselves out for all to see, not many teams can keep that kind of quality and intensity for that long and that was by far Swansea's best performance in a long time... The change of personnel second half made the difference (Gerrard on). Ok the manager had to tweak the system mixing between a diamond from a square midfield etc to compensate for the oppositions tactics but it was still a back three. Do I think we will stick with a back 3 at Arsenal - I believe we will ! Edited March 23, 2015 by Devil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sparkles Posted March 23, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2015 Skeletor could be in for it as well. He needfs a 10 match ban for that, a cowardly, bitter act.How the ref never saw that is beyond me. just because ye losing I can totally understand the ref missing it.In real time it was almost impossible to see and Pool fans though De Gea was playing out time. Hopefully the FA will review the video as its one of the more cowardly fouls that can be committed, stamping on a players leg while he is on the ground. Good that Gerard to come out an apologise although I didn't hear him apologise to the player that bore his moment of madness. If you watch a replay of Skrtel bearing down on De Gea you see a man possessed with frustration. If it looks like a thug,acts like a thug ,its a thug...3 weeks suspension is not enough. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtramsbottom Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 The FA cup will do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 The FA cup will do! Nah, the doubles still on mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 The FA cup will do! Nah, the doubles still on mate. That wouldn't surprise me that your still thinking that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Really don't think you can blame the manager....bringing Gerrard on seemed a logical move as he is capable of turning a game. Moment of madness no one can legislate for....just ask Rooney! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) I can't blame the manager, I blame the players. To me it wasn't Untied playing well, nor the now genius LVG's tactics. Those players let United play in their own backyard from the get go. They should have stepped it up and broke it up. The one player I would really single out (aside Gerrard) is Moreno, his Sunday league defense awareness in critical matches has cost us again. United did us in the first half, but I fully believe that we would have beat them in the second half if we had 11 men on the park. For 45 minutes United could not beat a side with 10 men, we actually looked like getting something. Rodgers changed it up and we would have got something if it wasn't for the moment madness. Let the United boys believe it is there awesomeness, still a ways to go The best thing about that match was Rooney's penalty, it did bring a smile and <deleted> you Edited March 23, 2015 by BangrakBob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtramsbottom Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Brendan... "We had a 10-game objective that we set. Built into that was that we were not going to win every single game. It's still very much [possible] for us to go where we want to go, which is the top four." I'll buy that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Brendan... "We had a 10-game objective that we set. Built into that was that we were not going to win every single game. It's still very much [possible] for us to go where we want to go, which is the top four." I'll buy that! It's that old Top 4 thing again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I can't blame the manager, I blame the players. To me it wasn't Untied playing well, nor the now genius LVG's tactics. Those players let United play in their own backyard from the get go. They should have stepped it up and broke it up. The one player I would really single out (aside Gerrard) is Moreno, his Sunday league defense awareness in critical matches has cost us again. United did us in the first half, but I fully believe that we would have beat them in the second half if we had 11 men on the park. For 45 minutes United could not beat a side with 10 men, we actually looked like getting something. Rodgers changed it up and we would have got something if it wasn't for the moment madness. Let the United boys believe it is there awesomeness, still a ways to go The best thing about that match was Rooney's penalty, it did bring a smile and <deleted> you I do admire someone who can see a silver lining in the face of probably the most painful defeat of the season. Liverpool were generally poor and indisciplined - not something that the great Liverpool teams of the past were renowned for. Having been turned over at home by an improving, but average Manchester United I think a few people need to a bit more inwardly. The saved penalty was nothing to gloat over - it simply saved the embarrassment of the score being 1 - 3 ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Brendan... "We had a 10-game objective that we set. Built into that was that we were not going to win every single game. It's still very much [possible] for us to go where we want to go, which is the top four." I'll buy that! It's that old Top 4 thing again Last year we were hearing a bout a top 1 thing. .... but that slipped up. The upcoming away games at Arsenal and Chelsea (+ Southampton and Spurs' easier run in) will determine whether 'top four' is realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I can't blame the manager, I blame the players. To me it wasn't Untied playing well, nor the now genius LVG's tactics. Those players let United play in their own backyard from the get go. They should have stepped it up and broke it up. The one player I would really single out (aside Gerrard) is Moreno, his Sunday league defense awareness in critical matches has cost us again. United did us in the first half, but I fully believe that we would have beat them in the second half if we had 11 men on the park. For 45 minutes United could not beat a side with 10 men, we actually looked like getting something. Rodgers changed it up and we would have got something if it wasn't for the moment madness. Let the United boys believe it is there awesomeness, still a ways to go The best thing about that match was Rooney's penalty, it did bring a smile and <deleted> you I do admire someone who can see a silver lining in the face of probably the most painful defeat of the season. Liverpool were generally poor and indisciplined - not something that the great Liverpool teams of the past were renowned for. Having been turned over at home by an improving, but average Manchester United I think a few people need to a bit more inwardly. The saved penalty was nothing to gloat over - it simply saved the embarrassment of the score being 1 - 3 ! Not sure there is a point comparing one match performance with "great Liverpool teams of the past" Why weren't you on here with your opinion when we beat Ctiy the other week? A smile and <deleted> you is hardly gloating as you interpret, it was justice for the shoulder barge for which the penalty was given. Losing to Aston Villa, and being held by the likes of Hull and Sunderland at home is embarrassing, not 1-3 against 10 men. Liverpool were on a record breaking run, it was going to come to an end somewhere. I think a few people need to get over it, and maybe themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfieconn Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I can't blame the manager, I blame the players. To me it wasn't Untied playing well, nor the now genius LVG's tactics. Those players let United play in their own backyard from the get go. They should have stepped it up and broke it up. The one player I would really single out (aside Gerrard) is Moreno, his Sunday league defense awareness in critical matches has cost us again. United did us in the first half, but I fully believe that we would have beat them in the second half if we had 11 men on the park. For 45 minutes United could not beat a side with 10 men, we actually looked like getting something. Rodgers changed it up and we would have got something if it wasn't for the moment madness. Let the United boys believe it is there awesomeness, still a ways to go The best thing about that match was Rooney's penalty, it did bring a smile and <deleted> you I do admire someone who can see a silver lining in the face of probably the most painful defeat of the season. Liverpool were generally poor and indisciplined - not something that the great Liverpool teams of the past were renowned for. Having been turned over at home by an improving, but average Manchester United I think a few people need to a bit more inwardly. The saved penalty was nothing to gloat over - it simply saved the embarrassment of the score being 1 - 3 ! Not sure there is a point comparing one match performance with "great Liverpool teams of the past" Why weren't you on here with your opinion when we beat Ctiy the other week? A smile and <deleted> you is hardly gloating as you interpret, it was justice for the shoulder barge for which the penalty was given. Losing to Aston Villa, and being held by the likes of Hull and Sunderland at home is embarrassing, not 1-3 against 10 men. Liverpool were on a record breaking run, it was going to come to an end somewhere. I think a few people need to get over it, and maybe themselves. I think your showing your age when you mention "shoulder barge" Bob, in case you hadn't realized we are now in the 21st century whereby a shoulder barge is now known as a push and if done in the penalty area usually results in a Penalty ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Skrtel has been summoned for his stamp on De Gea.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Skrtel has been summoned for his stamp on De Gea.... And so he should the thug, that was shocking you could see he had lost his head and was going t do something stupid same a Gerrard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantiSuk Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) So both will miss the game at Arsenal. Both could have been very disruptive to our midfield in particular and I would have predicted strong possibility of an injury. Lucas will have to step up to that disruptive plate. Brendan doesn't deserve that from his players* at such a critical stage in the season. *except perhaps Baguetelli, since he knew hew was buying an IED. [thought that was one of the better memorable moments when a couple of faithful in the crowd stood out of their seats and wrapped their arms round the big man on the edge of play to stop him suffering a similar fate ] Edited March 24, 2015 by SantiSuk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabhand Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 So both will miss the game at Arsenal. Both could have been very disruptive to our midfield in particular and I would have predicted strong possibility of an injury. Lucas will have to step up to that disruptive plate. Brendan doesn't deserve that from his players* at such a critical stage in the season. *except perhaps Baguetelli, since he knew hew was buying an IED. [thought that was one of the better memorable moments when a couple of faithful in the crowd stood out of their seats and wrapped their arms round the big man on the edge of play to stop him suffering a similar fate ] Yes, Mario just keeps on giving......! Thought it was quite a catch to have SuperMario and Superman in the same shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Brendan... "We had a 10-game objective that we set. Built into that was that we were not going to win every single game. It's still very much [possible] for us to go where we want to go, which is the top four." I'll buy that! It's that old Top 4 thing again Last year we were hearing a bout a top 1 thing. .... but that slipped up. The upcoming away games at Arsenal and Chelsea (+ Southampton and Spurs' easier run in) will determine whether 'top four' is realistic. Will he get sacked if you finish fifth? Or sixth or seventh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 So both will miss the game at Arsenal. Both could have been very disruptive to our midfield in particular and I would have predicted strong possibility of an injury. Lucas will have to step up to that disruptive plate. Brendan doesn't deserve that from his players* at such a critical stage in the season. *except perhaps Baguetelli, since he knew hew was buying an IED. [thought that was one of the better memorable moments when a couple of faithful in the crowd stood out of their seats and wrapped their arms round the big man on the edge of play to stop him suffering a similar fate ] Yes, Mario just keeps on giving......! Thought it was quite a catch to have SuperMario and Superman in the same shot Do you think they were saying "Caaaaaaaalm down Caaaaaaaalm down". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Brendan... "We had a 10-game objective that we set. Built into that was that we were not going to win every single game. It's still very much [possible] for us to go where we want to go, which is the top four." I'll buy that! It's that old Top 4 thing again Last year we were hearing a bout a top 1 thing. .... but that slipped up. The upcoming away games at Arsenal and Chelsea (+ Southampton and Spurs' easier run in) will determine whether 'top four' is realistic. Will he get sacked if you finish fifth? Or sixth or seventh? I thought jip99 was a United fan ?. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Skrtel denies the charge. What a comedian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantiSuk Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) So he's a lying barsteward as well as a thug I don't believe it was accidental. Look at the anger written on his face after the event - absolutely no hint of an apology to De Gea. Hope he's banned for the season. Changes made as a nod to Thailand's libel laws Edited March 24, 2015 by SantiSuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post carmine Posted March 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2015 Skrtel denies the charge. What a comedian The denial is worthy of an increased ban. What a clown. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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