Pacificperson Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 Shrunk NOT shrank His English vocabulary shrank over the years. His English vocabulary has shrunk over the years. Thank you. I can see that my ability to properly conjugate irregular verbs has shrunk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 It's not the vocabulary that's shrinking; it's the individuals brain slowly turning to scrambled eggs as the years pass. At 67 I have not lost any of my ability to remember words but I have to think hard sometimes about their spelling, something I've never had a problem with until the last year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUAHIN62 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 You need to be alone on Mars for a 100 years before your vocabulary becomes as bad as that of the twittering youth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar501 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 My English vocabulary is not the only thing that has shrunk over the years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Nyet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) Shrunk NOT shrank His English vocabulary shrank over the years. His English vocabulary has shrunk over the years. Yes, and "a honest case of use it or loose it" ought to be "an honest case of use it or lose it," though what that has to do with honesty remains a mystery. "His English vocabulary has shrunk over the years." Most things appear larger in the mirror of memory. I guess some people didn't have that much to lose to begin with (or with which to begin). Edited May 3, 2013 by Suradit69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 'Bedrunkit' is an invention of mine as is 'Farnag'. I developed a Germanic accent after 40 years in Switzerland apparently. I spent my first 20 years there hardly ever speaking or hearing English but I read a lot. This resulted in my thinking and writing in the style of the book that I was reading at the time. Thank goodness I weened myself off Thackeray and improved my mind by reading Terry Pratchett et al. We should be ashamed of ourselves for talking pidgin English to our wives (as I do) but the effort involved in making clear certain concepts sometimes doesn't seem worth it. Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 It used to depend on what I was drinking at the time...... Anywhere from the one bottle full-on conversation, to the 16 bottle grunt............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super22k Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Sometimes I find myself struggling for words that I would have spoken easily in th UK. It seems, living in a country with another language dulls the senses. Of course,it is the same for Thais living in an English speaking country .I know of a Thai girl who came back to Thailand from the UK because she had little chance to speak Thai and was becoming non-articulate. She had to think twice before she said anything. One of the answers is ,when you do meet an English speaking person talk......talk......talk ......and talk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) Linguistically, I have become more of an Anglophile in Thailand. I think if I moved back to the USA there would be an awkward adjustment period. That gun violence was spot on, Khrap! These are bloody good grits! That cockfight was brilliant! Edited May 3, 2013 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGuffin Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Indubitably . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Shrunk. Brain, I believe... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Actually I think that my English language vocabulary has increased since I started using Thaivisa.com. I have to regularly use the dictionary to find the meaning of some of those 5 syllable words that the Brits like to use! Like monosyllabic (rather apt for the thread)? Suggest op talk to oneself... often the only way to get some sense in the land of sXen-o-pho-bi-a. I started talking to myself, but realised something was seriously wrong when I started answering back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokpoppys Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Humans are tribal and we adapt to our surroundings..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigurris Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I cannot bear to hear Tinglish spoken, especially when it is spoken to a Farang. If it happens to me I usually ask them why they are speaking like a 4 year old. It is quite understandable when having short conversations to some Thais but it is never a good idea to speak it to your girlfriend or wife IMHO. If you speak Tinglish this will be the benchmark for her English. By speaking English correctly you will encourage her to speak correctly. It is a struggle, initially, but it pays dividends in the long run. When I met my gf her English was minimal but my Thai was reasonable so we communicated using a mixture. I continued to speak normal English (obviously I occasionally needed to dumb things down) with full use of articles etc. And I would correct her (and still do to a lesser extent). Two years later her understanding of English is excellent and her spoken English is very good, to the point where she now works for a British Property Company as the only Thai. The downside to this is that I have forgotten so much Thai as we never use the language anymore. She even speaks English to the dog!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Mine is still huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoboi Bebobp Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Linguistically, I have become more of an Anglophile in Thailand. I think if I moved back to the USA there would be an awkward adjustment period. That gun violence was spot on, Khrap! These are bloody good grits! That cockfight was brilliant! Yes, indeed. I find my (Canadian) self searching for a word and it comes out bloody British. Even to the point of saying ICE hockey. In Canada, there is only hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super22k Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Some of the posts on ThaiVisa are too long. They use words they would never use in a normal conversation. One of the secrets of good writing is to say in two paragraphs what it takes long winded contributors a whole page to say. If someone has not made their point within a few lines I lose interest. Words are a way to communicate your feelings and your thoughts,not for computer educated Farangs who call themselves English language teachers, to show off their teaching skills.They think they know more about the English language than William Shakespeare. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Some of the posts on ThaiVisa are too long. They use words they would never use in a normal conversation. One of the secrets of good writing is to say in two paragraphs what it takes long winded contributors a whole page to say. If someone has not made their point within a few lines I lose interest. Words are a way to communicate your feelings and your thoughts,not for computer educated Farangs who call themselves English language teachers, to show off their teaching skills.They think they know more about the English language than William Shakespeare. Wasn't he the captain in Star Trek? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 13 years in Asia and I have learned to appreciate what Ebonics is all about. If we understand each other, who cares if the verbs don't get conjugated correctly? Learned that one in China, where "I do it", "I will do it", and "I did it" are pretty much the same and the context tells you which one they mean. Makes meetings very draining and real good translators worth their weight in gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super22k Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I like the Star Trek joke. You mean William Shaftner,of course. Stay happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I am always getting my mucking words fuddled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjarnMartin Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 The past participle of the infinitive verb 'to shrink' in English is 'shrunk' so, in a present perfect question it should read: "Has your English vocabulary shrunk over the years". Of course, if you're American, they don't seem to bother too much with past participles which is a minefield for English students. A recent American English teacher wrote on his application to become a teacher - "we don't learn verb tenses in America"! Heaven help his students... :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 The past participle of the infinitive verb 'to shrink' in English is 'shrunk' so, in a present perfect question it should read: "Has your English vocabulary shrunk over the years". Of course, if you're American, they don't seem to bother too much with past participles which is a minefield for English students. A recent American English teacher wrote on his application to become a teacher - "we don't learn verb tenses in America"! Heaven help his students... :-( He lied. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucjoker Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 My Tinglish is still ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candypants Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Has it shrank , shrunk or shrek even ?.....dunno , but I know of many native English speakers who seem to have adopted an awful pidgin speak that makes mr cringe !!! Skink, Skunk, Skank. I know which one is my favourite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muythai2013 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 not sure I know what vocabulary means, not on my word list. Think I will google it and add it to the list of words I have learned over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBrad Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I have been here long enough to have gone through different phases. There were years when little or no English was spoken by me. Later my brother commented that I had developed an accent. I guess I was clipping my syllables instead of slurring them. After moving from Bangkok to Chiang Rai 6 years ago, I started writing a blog and rediscovered my native tongue. With my wife speaking such good English now, my Thai is beginning to suffer. Baby talk or pidgin English has never been an option, not even in Hawaii when it was the norm at school. VillageFarang, you do write one of the best-composed blogs that I subscribe to. It's a joy to read your well thought-out paragraphs. Really, I appreciate your style. That said, one of the best ways to keep our English alive is to read good books (or blogs). Time spent speaking improper (caveman or Tarzan) English does nobody any good. If you think about it, it's got to be extremely insulting to Thai girlfriends or wives. I really cannot understand why--even after they've been here for many years--expat men continue to use such non-standard English. Now, about the location of language in the brain, however, one language does not squeeze out another. The fact is that your first language (L1) is stored in one place, and subsequent languages (L2, L3, etc.) are stored in a completely different area of the brain, This is actually a good thing should we be so unfortunate to suffer a stroke and lose our first language. It's very possible that the region of the brain containing L2, L3, etc. will be undamaged, and we can communicate using a language other than L1. With that in mind, we might think again about the importance of being able to communicate in a language other than English...like Thai, for example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attento Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Shrunk NOT shrank His English vocabulary shrank over the years. His English vocabulary has shrunk over the years. Shrunk, shrank, shrink, shrinked, shrunken. My wife says "wash machine make t shirt grow small". I tried to explain shrink to her but it all got too hard because to her, all those 5 words mean the same, "grow small". Can we accept negative growth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attento Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) 13 years in Asia and I have learned to appreciate what Ebonics is all about. If we understand each other, who cares if the verbs don't get conjugated correctly? Learned that one in China, where "I do it", "I will do it", and "I did it" are pretty much the same and the context tells you which one they mean. Makes meetings very draining and real good translators worth their weight in gold. Is there a contradiction here? Surely a good translator will conjugate the verbs correctly. So, the competant translater does care, that's who, for one. Correct (=currently acceptable) use of a language is much more likely to reduce confusion and misunderstanding. (p.s. I agree with the difficulties in learning and using Chinese) Edited May 3, 2013 by attento 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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