Oatmeal

[tropo]

I bought a five grain porridge mix today which includes; rolled oats, rolled barley, rolled rye, rolled triticale, and rolled rice.

Not sure if it is available in Pattaya but I will see how it goes.

Anyone else tried a similar mix?

They have some grain mixes at Villa Market. I used to by a 7 grain mix produced by Rob's Mill. They have an assortment of different mixed grain porridges, but they don't seem to reorder once the stock is gone.

How did you find the mix of grains?

Loved them.

I got the brand name wrong. It's Bob's Red Mill.

I tried this one:

http://www.bobsredmill.com/8-grain-hot-cereal.html?&cat=9

They have quite a selection:

http://www.bobsredmill.com/cereals/

A number of these have been available at Villa Market, but resupply doesn't happen or it's very slow. I can't imagine there's a lot of takers for these products.

My favourite (also from Bob's Red Mill) was the steel cut oats. Last time I bought 5 bags, but I haven't seen it on the shelves since the middle of last year.

When you're in town next it's worth having a look.

[Tolley]

I bought a five grain porridge mix today which includes; rolled oats, rolled barley, rolled rye, rolled triticale, and rolled rice.

Not sure if it is available in Pattaya but I will see how it goes.

Anyone else tried a similar mix?

They have some grain mixes at Villa Market. I used to by a 7 grain mix produced by Rob's Mill. They have an assortment of different mixed grain porridges, but they don't seem to reorder once the stock is gone.

How did you find the mix of grains?

Loved them.

I got the brand name wrong. It's Bob's Red Mill.

I tried this one:

http://www.bobsredmill.com/8-grain-hot-cereal.html?&cat=9

They have quite a selection:

http://www.bobsredmill.com/cereals/

A number of these have been available at Villa Market, but resupply doesn't happen or it's very slow. I can't imagine there's a lot of takers for these products.

My favourite (also from Bob's Red Mill) was the steel cut oats. Last time I bought 5 bags, but I haven't seen it on the shelves since the middle of last year.

When you're in town next it's worth having a look.

I have seen that section at Villa there is some good stuff there that you cant get anywhere else.

I will see how the five grain compares to the rolled oats this week.

[tropo]

I have seen that section at Villa there is some good stuff there that you cant get anywhere else.

I will see how the five grain compares to the rolled oats this week.

I like the idea of getting some variety rather than the same old thing day after day.

[jbrain]

What's wrong with the Hahne rolled oats ? Or the Hahne nut meusli for that matter?

Very affordable in price, and I have just looked it up the nutrition difference between rolled oats and steel cut oats is negligible.

http://nutritiondiva.quickanddirtytips.com/are-steel-cut-oats-healthier.aspx

Because they go through some extra processing steps, you might assume that rolled oats would be less nutritious than steel-cut oats, but it turns out that the differences are quite minor. Steel cut, stone-ground, old-fashioned, and quick-cooking rolled oats are all made from whole grains and they all have approximately the same amount of fiber, protein, calories, and other nutrients.

[tropo]

What's wrong with the Hahne rolled oats ? Or the Hahne nut meusli for that matter?

Very affordable in price, and I have just looked it up the nutrition difference between rolled oats and steel cut oats is negligible.

There's nothing wrong with Hahne rolled oats. I've been eating the big leaf variety for the past couple of years.

I don't have any choice. Steel cut oats are not available. I would eat them out of choice if I could get them because I like the nutty consistency... not because I think they're nutritionally superior.

[robblok]

What's wrong with the Hahne rolled oats ? Or the Hahne nut meusli for that matter?

Very affordable in price, and I have just looked it up the nutrition difference between rolled oats and steel cut oats is negligible.

http://nutritiondiva.quickanddirtytips.com/are-steel-cut-oats-healthier.aspx

Because they go through some extra processing steps, you might assume that rolled oats would be less nutritious than steel-cut oats, but it turns out that the differences are quite minor. Steel cut, stone-ground, old-fashioned, and quick-cooking rolled oats are all made from whole grains and they all have approximately the same amount of fiber, protein, calories, and other nutrients.

Also nothing wrong with it.. i love my oats i love my Tesco Scottish oats.. they are rolled oats according to Tropo.. and i believe him.

[jbrain]

What's wrong with the Hahne rolled oats ? Or the Hahne nut meusli for that matter?

Very affordable in price, and I have just looked it up the nutrition difference between rolled oats and steel cut oats is negligible.

There's nothing wrong with Hahne rolled oats. I've been eating the big leaf variety for the past couple of years.

I don't have any choice. Steel cut oats are not available. I would eat them out of choice if I could get them because I like the nutty consistency... not because I think they're nutritionally superior.

What's wrong with the Hahne rolled oats ? Or the Hahne nut meusli for that matter?

Very affordable in price, and I have just looked it up the nutrition difference between rolled oats and steel cut oats is negligible.

http://nutritiondiva.quickanddirtytips.com/are-steel-cut-oats-healthier.aspx

Because they go through some extra processing steps, you might assume that rolled oats would be less nutritious than steel-cut oats, but it turns out that the differences are quite minor. Steel cut, stone-ground, old-fashioned, and quick-cooking rolled oats are all made from whole grains and they all have approximately the same amount of fiber, protein, calories, and other nutrients.

Also nothing wrong with it.. i love my oats i love my Tesco Scottish oats.. they are rolled oats according to Tropo.. and i believe him.

Ok, thanks for the confirmation as I always wondered why they are actually about half price for a similar product onn the shelves.

I also regulary eat them, I buy the 1kg mixed fruit or the mixed nut meusly, and add 500 gram big leaf oats with it.

When I eat I add sugar free soy milk.

I noticed that big c have now cereal bran from casino at 170 Baht for 500 grams. Is that a reasonal price compared to other brands.

[tropo]

Also nothing wrong with it.. i love my oats i love my Tesco Scottish oats.. they are rolled oats according to Tropo.. and i believe him.

Yeah, there's 3 types of oats really (4 if you include oatmeal). Rolled - you'll see the full grains flattened out, having gone through a heavy roller. There's the quick cooking variety which is rolled oats chopped up small and steel cut - which is wholegrain cut into big chunks. Steel cut take a lot longer to cook so perhaps they're not as healthy. Food for thought.

[tropo]

Ok, thanks for the confirmation as I always wondered why they are actually about half price for a similar product onn the shelves.

I also regulary eat them, I buy the 1kg mixed fruit or the mixed nut meusly, and add 500 gram big leaf oats with it.

When I eat I add sugar free soy milk.

I noticed that big c have now cereal bran from casino at 170 Baht for 500 grams. Is that a reasonal price compared to other brands.

The Hahne oats are far away the best deal out of all the brands. It's not that the other brands are better, they're just overpriced by comparison. As an added bonus the Hahne oats are more attractively packaged too.The supermarkets do a good trade on Hahne because often they're out of stock.

[Tolley]

I don't know what it is about oats but I definitely feel better when eating them.

Maybe it is the magnesium in the oats or some other nutrient but comparing how I have felt the last week I definitely feel good. And it wasn't like I didn't feel good before but I feel even better after including them in my diet.

[tropo]

I don't know what it is about oats but I definitely feel better when eating them.

Maybe it is the magnesium in the oats or some other nutrient but comparing how I have felt the last week I definitely feel good. And it wasn't like I didn't feel good before but I feel even better after including them in my diet.

Feeling good is such a subjective thing. I wonder if your "feeling good" is anything like my version of "feeling good"? If you feel better than usual, that soon becomes your new standard and then if you go back to your previous version of feeling good you feel bad.

I think my biggest enemy is the climate. I always feel energized when I take a trip to a more temperate climate.

[Tolley]

I don't know what it is about oats but I definitely feel better when eating them.

Maybe it is the magnesium in the oats or some other nutrient but comparing how I have felt the last week I definitely feel good. And it wasn't like I didn't feel good before but I feel even better after including them in my diet.

Feeling good is such a subjective thing. I wonder if your "feeling good" is anything like my version of "feeling good"? If you feel better than usual, that soon becomes your new standard and then if you go back to your previous version of feeling good you feel bad.

I think my biggest enemy is the climate. I always feel energized when I take a trip to a more temperate climate.

The feel good isnt subjective for me because I notice the difference eating oats. I get a similar feel good from eating beans. They suit my system and I have learnt that over the years. Of course that doesnt mean other people would get the same benefits as me as everyone is a bit different.

Obviously I cant speak for other people as I dont know how they feel. Heck they might feel much better than me but i will never know. I only know how I feel.

As for climate Thai weather can get to you after a while as you cant go anywhere without sweating up big time so it does get a bit energy sapping living in that sort of climate 24/7.

[NeverSure]

Have been eating oats this week after not eating them for ages and my system really thrives on them. The only problem is that they dont sustain you as long as boiled eggs do. I get hungry much quicker so I will have to try and eat the oats plus a boiled egg for breakfast. You really need a bigger protein hit in the morning. The other issue is that they are bland so it is a bit boring eating them every day.

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They're not bland if eaten with raisins and bananas, topped off with a healthy serve of fresh full cream milk. I would never eats oats without a good dose of protein. I go for at least 60 grams for breakfast.

I will opt for a boiled egg on the side. I put banana and use rice milk and a teaspoon of honey. I slow cooked a big batch of organic rolled oats on Sunday night and microwave them in the morning. If i had enough time i would slow cook them every morning as the oats congeal a bit when you put them in the fridge. There is a huge difference in the texture and flavour of the organic oats compared to the quick oats or microwave variety. I am sure they would not have the same health benefits as the organic variety.

I simply microwave whole rolled oats. 1 part oats, 1 3/4 parts water, and anything else I want such as cinnamon and raisins and (for me) salt and nuts.

I start with hot water and it takes less than a minute. The taste and texture is as if I'd cooked them, and far superior for me than instant.

[tropo]

Yippee!!!!!

Scored steel cut oats again!

[Old Croc]

Don't eat oats if you suffer from gout!

"Oats contain naturally-occurring substances called purines. Purines are commonly found in plants, animals, and humans. In some individuals who are susceptible to purine-related problems, excessive intake of these substances can cause health problems. Since purines can be broken down to form uric acid, excess accumulation of purines in the body can lead to excess accumulation of uric acid. The health condition called "gout" and the formation of kidney stones from uric acid are two examples of uric acid-related problems that can be related to excessive intake of purine-containing foods. For this reason, individuals with kidney problems or gout may want to limit or avoid intake of purine-containing foods such as oats"

[Taggart]

I've been eating oatmeal porridge for about the last six decades with no ill effects. Mostly it's steel cut, but occasionally the large flake oats. Along with a tablespoon of ground flax seed (for omega-3) a few frozen cranberries and blueberries I add to the pot, lately I've been cooking it in banana milk which gives it a super delicious taste. Just add the normal water you would use to cook in, along with half a large or a whole small banana in the blender, blend and you're set to go.

[Tolley]

I have been reading some more interesting tidbits about oats lately and they are also supposedly good for sex drive regulating testosterone and estrogen in the body.

Another good reason to dig into a plate of oats.

[Sheryl]

I make my own muesli using oatmeal (uncooked), yogurt etc. Delicious.

[tominbkk]

You can make an 'oatmeal' out of ground flax seed that is quite good, 0 carb, and all fiber. Have you tried it?

[David48]

I'm having Oats for breakfast as I type.

Just the old fashioned style ... ready in a few minutes.

Cooked in a saucepan with water ... add a bit of milk to cool them and a few peanuts for protein ... I forget about food after that ... the full feeling lasts for hours.

Oats are good ... sex is better ...

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[Taggart]

Most of my life I've been cooking my oats in the morning, but for the last few weeks I've alternated to raw oats. I just add a cup of rolled (large flake) oats to a jar along with a half teaspoon of ground cinnamon, together with a tablespoon full of either dried cranberries, raisins or currants. I stir up the dried ingredients and then add a cup of unsweetened soy drink. Stir again. Takes all of five minutes to prepare. Then leave in the fridge over night. Next morning add the combined mixture to a bowl and top with some fresh berries and I'm all set to go. So easy and tasty, wish I'd thought of this simple recipe decades ago.

[David48]

Speaking of ceral based breakfasts ... how does the Thai breakfast of Jok compare?

Taste wise?

Same GI as Oats?

In Thailand, I would eat this more often the Oats.

I reckon both are fairly healthy.

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[Jingthing]

Jok is made with WHITE rice, yes? (Not brown rice which is great.) So, no, not really healthy compared to oatmeal for breakfast.

[chiang mai]

I've been eating Lowan (Australia) quick oats for a couple of months and they are great, no added sugar, inexpensive and really easy to make (90 secs in the m/w). I just noticed yesterday that their rolled oats and steel cut oats have almost identical nutritional data, only the fibre content percentage is very slightly lower on the quick oats. On that basis I can't really see the added value of eating rolled or steel cut over quick oats, unless the answer lies in their glycemic value?

[tropo]

I've been eating Lowan (Australia) quick oats for a couple of months and they are great, no added sugar, inexpensive and really easy to make (90 secs in the m/w). I just noticed yesterday that their rolled oats and steel cut oats have almost identical nutritional data, only the fibre content percentage is very slightly lower on the quick oats. On that basis I can't really see the added value of eating rolled or steel cut over quick oats, unless the answer lies in their glycemic value?

I came to the same conclusion. My reason for eating steel cut oats is that I enjoy eating them more, not because I believe there's a mountain of additional health benefits. It's not often I can find them here in Pattaya, so they're just an occasional treat when I can get my hands on them.

It's a 20 minute cooking process, so many may be put off due to that.

[chiang mai]

I've been eating Lowan (Australia) quick oats for a couple of months and they are great, no added sugar, inexpensive and really easy to make (90 secs in the m/w). I just noticed yesterday that their rolled oats and steel cut oats have almost identical nutritional data, only the fibre content percentage is very slightly lower on the quick oats. On that basis I can't really see the added value of eating rolled or steel cut over quick oats, unless the answer lies in their glycemic value?

I came to the same conclusion. My reason for eating steel cut oats is that I enjoy eating them more, not because I believe there's a mountain of additional health benefits. It's not often I can find them here in Pattaya, so they're just an occasional treat when I can get my hands on them.

It's a 20 minute cooking process, so many may be put off due to that.

Thanks for that, I thought perhaps I was missing something.

[tropo]

I've been eating Lowan (Australia) quick oats for a couple of months and they are great, no added sugar, inexpensive and really easy to make (90 secs in the m/w). I just noticed yesterday that their rolled oats and steel cut oats have almost identical nutritional data, only the fibre content percentage is very slightly lower on the quick oats. On that basis I can't really see the added value of eating rolled or steel cut over quick oats, unless the answer lies in their glycemic value?

I came to the same conclusion. My reason for eating steel cut oats is that I enjoy eating them more, not because I believe there's a mountain of additional health benefits. It's not often I can find them here in Pattaya, so they're just an occasional treat when I can get my hands on them.

It's a 20 minute cooking process, so many may be put off due to that.

Thanks for that, I thought perhaps I was missing something.

I think the way oat products are marketed is very confusing and misleading. The way I see it, all they do when they make the quick cooking kind is chop them up more so they cook more quickly and they don't extract anything. If this is not true, I'd like to see evidence to show why it is not.

The only difference between steel cut and rolled oats is that one is cut and one is rolled. Obviously if you roll the grain out thin it will absorb water more quickly when you cook it... then they chop them up even further to make them quick cooking.... and nearly "powderize" the grain to make it instant.

[Tolley]

I've been eating Lowan (Australia) quick oats for a couple of months and they are great, no added sugar, inexpensive and really easy to make (90 secs in the m/w). I just noticed yesterday that their rolled oats and steel cut oats have almost identical nutritional data, only the fibre content percentage is very slightly lower on the quick oats. On that basis I can't really see the added value of eating rolled or steel cut over quick oats, unless the answer lies in their glycemic value?

I came to the same conclusion. My reason for eating steel cut oats is that I enjoy eating them more, not because I believe there's a mountain of additional health benefits. It's not often I can find them here in Pattaya, so they're just an occasional treat when I can get my hands on them.

It's a 20 minute cooking process, so many may be put off due to that.

Thanks for that, I thought perhaps I was missing something.

I think the way oat products are marketed is very confusing and misleading. The way I see it, all they do when they make the quick cooking kind is chop them up more so they cook more quickly and they don't extract anything. If this is not true, I'd like to see evidence to show why it is not.

The only difference between steel cut and rolled oats is that one is cut and one is rolled. Obviously if you roll the grain out thin it will absorb water more quickly when you cook it... then they chop them up even further to make them quick cooking.... and nearly "powderize" the grain to make it instant.

I think you are right about the quick oats and the rolled oats. When I looked at the quick oats they looked like they were just chopped up rolled oats therefore quicker to cook because smaller and less dense.

The nutrition might be the same but I prefer the slow cooked rolled oats as they just seem creamier in texture and nicer on the palate. I soak the rolled oats overnight for better absorption and digestion.

Read this about soaking oats.

this is the website where i copied and pasted my information)

http://www.highonhealth.org/why-its-very-important-to-soak-oats-before-you-eat-them/

A friend of mine recently had a blood test for mineral deficiency, and it turns out that shes deficient in vitamin b12. This surprised me because she has an incredibly healthy diet. But what the naturopath told her completely took me by surprise. She was told that the oatmeal she was eating each morning was possibly blocking the production of Vitamin b12 in her body!

You must soak oats for several hours before you eat them

Its really, really important to soak your oats for several hours before you eat them, whether or not you end up cooking them. Somehow this knowledge of having to soak oats got lost about the same time fast food came in. I guess we all just got a bit lazy and we didnt understand why we were soaking them in the first place.

Ever since people first started eating oats, they either soaked or fermented them first. And when oats were first packaged and sold in grocery stores, there were even soaking instructions on the box. You never see that anymore.

Why oats need to be soaked

Heres an extract from Nourishing Traditions which explains the reason why oats need to be soaked better than I could -

All grains contain phytic acid (an organic acid in which phosphorous is bound) in the outer layer or bran. Untreated phytic acid can combine with calcium, magnesium, copper, iron especially zinc in the intestinal track and block their absorption. This is why a diet high in unfermented whole grains may led to serious mineral deficiencies and bone loss. The modern misguided practice of consuming large amounts of unprocessed bran often improves colon transit time at first but may lead to irritable bowel syndrome and, in the long term, many other adverse effects. Soaking allows enzyme, lactobacilli and other helpful organisms to break down and neutralize phytic acid. As little as seven hours of soaking in warm acidulated water will neutralize a large portion of phytic acid in grains. The simple practice of soaking cracked or rolled cereal grains overnight will vastly improve their nutritional benefits.

I see a lot of conversation in acne forums about grains and how grains can make the skin a lot worse. It kind of makes a lot of sense to me now. A diet high in unsoaked or unfermentated grains can in fact lead to mineral deficiency and irritable bowel syndrome so its no wonder that our skin is better once we stop eating them. And lets be realistic who here soaks and ferments all their grains? Not me.

Interestingly, the Body Ecology Diet only allows for a small number of grains, and recommends soaking the grains before eating or cooking them. And since that book is all about cleaning out the colon and improving the digestive system, it just proves again how important it is to soak grains, or at least your oats before you eat them.

So from now on, Im going to soak my oats in water each night before I go to bed!

[Chonburiram]

I've been eating Lowan (Australia) quick oats for a couple of months and they are great, no added sugar, inexpensive and really easy to make (90 secs in the m/w). I just noticed yesterday that their rolled oats and steel cut oats have almost identical nutritional data, only the fibre content percentage is very slightly lower on the quick oats. On that basis I can't really see the added value of eating rolled or steel cut over quick oats, unless the answer lies in their glycemic value?

I came to the same conclusion. My reason for eating steel cut oats is that I enjoy eating them more, not because I believe there's a mountain of additional health benefits. It's not often I can find them here in Pattaya, so they're just an occasional treat when I can get my hands on them.

It's a 20 minute cooking process, so many may be put off due to that.

If I remember right, steel cut oats are produced raw, rolled oats go through a heat process, I think they

got steamed before rolling, not the best for the vitamins.

[chiang mai]

Almost certainly, Quick Oats is a bi product of the Rolled/Steel Oats processing process, it's a less easily quantified product in specific terms but it is essentially the same product.