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JAPAN MISSION
PM drums up yen for Dawei, rail plans
The Nation


Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra offers a toast to her Japanese counterpart Shinzo Abe during their meeting
Yingluck gives Abe details of port, water and infrastructure projects

TOKYO: -- Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has invited Japanese investors to join the Dawei Deep Sea Port project in Myanmar, while Japanese businesses have expressed an interest in bidding for satellite and high-speed rail projects in Thailand, the PM's secretary-general said yesterday.

Suranand Vejjajiva said Yingluck met her Japanese counterpart, Shinzo Abe, on Wednesday and discussed bilateral cooperation.

Suranand said Yingluck presented details of the modules of the water-management and flood-prevention scheme, the Bt2-trilllion transport infrastructure projects and the Dawei Deep Sea Port and Special Economic Zone project to potential Japanese investors.

She also presented preliminary information on the projects to the Japanese PM so his government could consider supporting the developments.

Suranand said Yingluck asked Japan to play a leading role in developing the Dawei port and economic zone by investing in basic infrastructure. She informed Abe that the port and industrial zone would benefit Japan's investments in the region, as the port would be a link in routes connecting Myanmar with Pacific countries.

The PM's secretary-general said Japanese investors also expressed interest in new satellite projects and high-speed trains in Thailand.

Yingluck explained to Japanese officials that the Thai government was studying details of new satellite projects. She said the Thai government wanted Japan to invest in high-speed train projects, to which Bangkok attached a lot of importance.

Yingluck told the Japanese prime minister that she was happy that the peoples of the two countries were travelling to each other's countries in ever-increasing numbers and that the two countries had improved ties at all levels.

Yingluck also expressed her admiration for JENESYS 2.0, a new initiative in partnership with Japan. She thanked the Abe for attaching importance to supporting the exchange of cultures among Asean youths and for taking measures to stimulate Japan's economy, which would benefit the entire region.

During her visit, Yingluck told Japan's state-run NHK television that political conflicts in Thailand could be laid to rest through patience and democratic negotiations.

Yingluck spoke to reporters while attending the "Future of Asia International Conference" in Tokyo, which began Wednesday and ends tomorrow. "I believe that all the conflicts in Thailand can be ended through patience and democratic discussion so that we can finally restore peace in our nation," she said.

Yingluck added that her experience as a business executive had proven helpful in this task. "My experience as a former business executive helps a lot with my current task," she said, explaining that it allowed her to "more easily push my country forward, politically and economically."


-- The Nation 2013-05-24

[Hornell]

Let's just hope that Japan's involvement with railways in Thailand goes better than the last time it did so!

[chainarong]

Japan's attempt to enter the Chinese Rail business went very well until the Chinese attempted to claim copy right on their High Speed technology,(The first time out of Japan) this has resulted in prolonged court cases, one hopes things go better for Japan in Thailand

[GrantSmith]

I bet old mate Chalerm was pissed that he missed this little shindig...

[rfukata]

Japan's attempt to enter the Chinese Rail business went very well until the Chinese attempted to claim copy right on their High Speed technology,(The first time out of Japan) this has resulted in prolonged court cases, one hopes things go better for Japan in Thailand

thats very true.

for one, Taiwan is using the Jpn shinkansen system and next hopefully Vietnam as the talks and assessments are progressing.

Thailand should study more in detail about Metro-train links and network something like Tokyo JR and subways work before even

thinking about high speed rail.

[trainman34014]

This time there will be no Prisoners of War to build the railway so it will be a tad more expensive Ms Y. When you get the cost estimates my bet is you will go the Chinese way.

[Nickymaster]

The PM's secretary-general said a lot.. But what did Yingluck say?

[Pib]

I wonder what a high speed rail passenger ticket will cost...I'm sure it will be something the typical Thai making around 300 baht a day will be able to afford...or not.

With all the society needs in Thailand it would seem the money (borrowed money) could be better spent at this point in Thailand's development. Just focusing a lot more money towards basic rail transport for goods and passengers seems like it would provide more benefits...but it would be less sexy than high speed rail. Plus, in the locations/cities I've lived during my lifetime whenever a mass transit rail system was built it always ended up costing a lot more and taking much longer to complete than projected. Time will tell.

[chainarong]

Japan's attempt to enter the Chinese Rail business went very well until the Chinese attempted to claim copy right on their High Speed technology,(The first time out of Japan) this has resulted in prolonged court cases, one hopes things go better for Japan in Thailand

that's very true.

for one, Taiwan is using the Jpn shinkansen system and next hopefully Vietnam as the talks and assessments are progressing.

Thailand should study more in detail about Metro-train links and network something like Tokyo JR and subways work before even

thinking about high speed rail.

The funny thing about that Chinese case, Japan had not taken it outside for that reason, fear someone would steal their technology.

[JetsetBkk]

Can we have a railway from Phuket to Bangkok, please? It doesn't have to high speed, although an overnight sleeper would be nice - anything to avoid the bus and airport mafia.

Thank you very much, Yingluck.

Regards,

JS.

[billd766]

Why is the "Real PM" of Thailand advocating work on Dawei in Myanmar.

She should be pushing very hard to build in in Thailand along with the Kra Isthmus canal which would keep the money in Thailand.

Could one reason be that the land needed for that belongs to the people of Southern Thailand who traditionally vote against the Shinawatra name?

It would be interesting to know who owns the land around Dawei as well.

[GentlemanJim]

Can we have a railway from Phuket to Bangkok, please? It doesn't have to high speed, although an overnight sleeper would be nice - anything to avoid the bus and airport mafia.

Thank you very much, Yingluck.

Regards,

JS.

But then you should have to change your name from jet set to Train set

Why is the "Real PM" of Thailand advocating work on Dawei in Myanmar.

She should be pushing very hard to build in in Thailand along with the Kra Isthmus canal which would keep the money in Thailand.

Could one reason be that the land needed for that belongs to the people of Southern Thailand who traditionally vote against the Shinawatra name?

It would be interesting to know who owns the land around Dawei as well.

And there is the $64 000 question (or more likely the $64 Billion question). Why is she now acting as PM of Myanmar. It seems anything at all to develop the North. High speed trains from China to Chang Mai, deep sea ports in other countries that will bring business exclusively to the North. Everything is set up! Come the big day, if Thaksin does not get his way as President of the whole of Thailand, he will abandon the South and create two separate states, The Democratic Republic of North Thailand and the Systematically Raped Republic of South Thailand. It is pitiful that the electorate put up with this for a once in four year payment of 500 baht. Still the good thing is that despite the smiling, the acutely astute Japanese will have seen straight through her and be asking far more such questions amongst themselves than we are.

[chainarong]

I wonder what a high speed rail passenger ticket will cost...I'm sure it will be something the typical Thai making around 300 baht a day will be able to afford...or not.

With all the society needs in Thailand it would seem the money (borrowed money) could be better spent at this point in Thailand's development. Just focusing a lot more money towards basic rail transport for goods and passengers seems like it would provide more benefits...but it would be less sexy than high speed rail. Plus, in the locations/cities I've lived during my lifetime whenever a mass transit rail system was built it always ended up costing a lot more and taking much longer to complete than projected. Time will tell.

A H.S.R is just that , a dedicated line for high speed passenger, they carry no goods traffic , H.S.T carry passenger plus goods traffic, I would opt for this option.

[Thai at Heart]

Can we have a railway from Phuket to Bangkok, please? It doesn't have to high speed, although an overnight sleeper would be nice - anything to avoid the bus and airport mafia.

Thank you very much, Yingluck.

Regards,

JS.

But then you should have to change your name from jet set to Train set

Why is the "Real PM" of Thailand advocating work on Dawei in Myanmar.

She should be pushing very hard to build in in Thailand along with the Kra Isthmus canal which would keep the money in Thailand.

Could one reason be that the land needed for that belongs to the people of Southern Thailand who traditionally vote against the Shinawatra name?

It would be interesting to know who owns the land around Dawei as well.

And there is the $64 000 question (or more likely the $64 Billion question). Why is she now acting as PM of Myanmar. It seems anything at all to develop the North. High speed trains from China to Chang Mai, deep sea ports in other countries that will bring business exclusively to the North. Everything is set up! Come the big day, if Thaksin does not get his way as President of the whole of Thailand, he will abandon the South and create two separate states, The Democratic Republic of North Thailand and the Systematically Raped Republic of South Thailand. It is pitiful that the electorate put up with this for a once in four year payment of 500 baht. Still the good thing is that despite the smiling, the acutely astute Japanese will have seen straight through her and be asking far more such questions amongst themselves than we are.

Because many Thai companies are in these projects up their nose. If dawei doesn't get built, Thai business will need to find a new corrupt hole to Dig

[marcusd]

I wonder what a high speed rail passenger ticket will cost...I'm sure it will be something the typical Thai making around 300 baht a day will be able to afford...or not. 

 

With all the society needs in Thailand it would seem the money (borrowed money) could be better spent at this point in Thailand's development.  Just focusing a lot more money towards basic rail transport for goods and passengers seems like it would provide more benefits...but it would be less sexy than high speed rail.  Plus, in the locations/cities I've lived during my lifetime whenever a mass transit rail system was built it always ended up costing a lot more and taking much longer to complete than projected.   Time will tell.

Australia is richer than Thailand. THEY realised air travel is just as economical...sam price... Faster and wont cost billions to build.

Look at the MRT in Bangkok. not overly used i would say so a bigger more grand system linking country areas where people are less wealthy?

Another big fat Chang Phuak i say

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[Lite Beer]

PM Yingluck urges enhanced cooperation for Asia’s future
By Digital Media

TOKYO, May 24 – Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra expressed strong confidence today that “The Asian Century” will be realised in the coming decades with US$6.4 trillion foreign reserves in the entire region.

In a speech to the 19th international conference in Japan on “The Future of Asia,” she said that Eastern Asia has grown steadily and expanded its influence globally with an estimated growth of Asian gross domestic product (GDP) against the global GDP at 51 per cent in 2050.

She said “The Asian Century” will materialise but she hoped that capital inflows into the region will be for long-term investment, not for short-term speculation.

Premier Yingluck pointed out that Asia’s diversity will be challenge and can limit the growth and prosperity of the continent, possibly leading to disputes and conflicts of interest.

Ms Yingluck called on Asian nations to emphasise investment more to connect the region by land and sea, adding that high-speed rail routes will be the “new silk road” linking Asia and Europe.

Giving reassurances that the mega Dawei deep seaport project on the Thai-Myanmar border will be an investment for the future of Asia, the Thai prime minister said the huge industrial and export zone will become a strategic location connecting Thai industrial estates to Myanmar, Thailand’s neighbour to the West.

She emphasised that the Thai government’s Bt2 trillion loan for infrastructure development will be an investment in the future of Thailand and to connect with other Southeast Asian countries through rail system.

Touching on the South China Sea dispute, Ms Yingluck said it is vital that Asian countries tackle any challenge which could be detrimental to marine connectivity in the future.

Peace and stability are significant fundamentals for a better future and the launch of the ASEAN Economic Community in 2015, she said, means that the entire region will grow together through connectivity.

She said Thailand is investing in water resource management to cope with natural disasters and build a strong foundation for sustainable growth.

“The future of Asia is in the hands of everyone and depends on the new generation who will set the direction for growth. It is the road [on which] we cooperate, learn from each other and grow together, not only for the region but for the world,” she said.

Ms Yingluck and the Thai delegation will leave Japan tomorrow after a four-day visit during which she also held discussions with her Japanese counterpart Shinzo Abe on bilateral cooperation and investment. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2013-05-24

[JetsetBkk]

And there is the $64 000 question (or more likely the $64 Billion question). Why is she now acting as PM of Myanmar. It seems anything at all to develop the North. High speed trains from China to Chang Mai, deep sea ports in other countries that will bring business exclusively to the North. Everything is set up! Come the big day, if Thaksin does not get his way as President of the whole of Thailand, he will abandon the South and create two separate states, The Democratic Republic of North Thailand and the Systematically Raped Republic of South Thailand. It is pitiful that the electorate put up with this for a once in four year payment of 500 baht. Still the good thing is that despite the smiling, the acutely astute Japanese will have seen straight through her and be asking far more such questions amongst themselves than we are.

Bangkok is sinking and the sea level is rising. Chiang Mai for the new Capital! Yay!

[OzMick]

Australia is richer than Thailand. THEY realised air travel is just as economical...sam price... Faster and wont cost billions to build.

Look at the MRT in Bangkok. not overly used i would say so a bigger more grand system linking country areas where people are less wealthy?

Another big fat Chang Phuak i say

Sent from my GT-N7000B using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Nope! HSR line from Melbourne to Brisbane via Canberra, Sydney, Newcastle, etc now being proposed with a price in the godzillions and a completion just before the 5th of Never. This in a country where every rail passenger journey costs far in excess of the ticket price.

[khunken]

So Yingluck (or her bro) has appointed herself as PM of Burma as well as Thailand.

Are these foreign trips going to her head?

[slapout]

She and her brother seem to forget that the potential foreign investor groups, are comprised of businessmen, politicins, etc, who are somewhat more educated/intelligent than the potential voters they pursue here in Thailand. Some of these people have demostrated their business sense by receiving many favorable concessions from this and previous governments. A pertty face and a "time share like" speel will be acknowledged, but for them to invest , they want to know what the returns are and how quickly.

Big brother has had the pants put on him in a couple of these business deals, outside his circle of influence (Thailand), but when you are playing with other people money, you keep trying to convience them via little sister, how clever/wealthy you are and how you are really just trying to help them.

[Brian67]

Why is the "Real PM" of Thailand advocating work on Dawei in Myanmar.

She should be pushing very hard to build in in Thailand along with the Kra Isthmus canal which would keep the money in Thailand.

Could one reason be that the land needed for that belongs to the people of Southern Thailand who traditionally vote against the Shinawatra name?

It would be interesting to know who owns the land around Dawei as well.

My thoughts too... Is Mister T's proxy, now proxy for Thein Sein as well?

[OzMick]

The headline is completely misleading. The Japanese are interested in SELLING to Thailand, not in supplying the money, and couldn't give a flying fig whether the project is stupid, or wasteful, or if Thailand can afford it - because it's not their problem what an idiot wants to blow his/her dough on.

Japanese businesses have expressed an interest in bidding for satellite and high-speed rail projects in Thailand.

[amore]

The headline is completely misleading. The Japanese are interested in SELLING to Thailand, not in supplying the money, and couldn't give a flying fig whether the project is stupid, or wasteful, or if Thailand can afford it - because it's not their problem what an idiot wants to blow his/her dough on.

Japanese businesses have expressed an interest in bidding for satellite and high-speed rail projects in Thailand.

It appears that the Japanese Bank for International Cooperation, 1000 medium size Japanese businesses and the President of Hitachi disagree with your assessment of their investment interests

Japan Bank for International Co-Operation (JBIC)

In recent years, Japanese firms, especially in the automobile, home appliance and electronics industries, have been making vigorous investments in Thailand in an effort to make the country a hub of their production networks in Southeast Asia. With financial support for local Japanese and Thai SMEs through Kasikornbank, it is expected that Japanese firms doing business in Thailand will be able to build advanced supply chains, expand their markets and improve their international competitiveness.

In view of the importance of close economic ties between Japan and Thailand, which serves as a key base for Japanese business activities, JBIC will make efforts to strengthen co-benefiting bilateral relations by helping improve the country's investment climate for Japanese businesses. http://www.jbic.go.jp/en/special/business/002/index.html

More than 1,000 medium-sized Japanese companies are planning to expand their business and invest in Thailand this year, the highest number for seven years, Kasikornbank said yesterday.

Songpol Chevapanyaroj, executive vice president of KBank, which has joined forces with 15 Japanese partner banks that take care of financial matters for Japanese companies investing in Thailand, said the investment size of each company was estimated at between 50 million bath and 100 million baht. http://www.asianewsnet.net/Some-1000-mid-sized-Japan-firms-eye-Thailand--41552.html

Mr. Hiroaki Nakanishi told the Prime Minister Hitachi has been investing in Thailand continuously, making Thailand its hub in the Southeast Asian region. He praised Thailand for the continuous support to the company's investment in Thailand.

Furthermore, Mr. Hiroaki Nakanishi stated that Hitachi is interested in being a part of Thailand's mega-project involving logistic infrastructure development. The Company on this occasion presented its expertise in high-speed rail technology to the government.

http://thainews.prd.go.th/centerweb/newsen/NewsDetail?NT01_NewsID=WNECO5605090010011

Edited May 25, 2013 by amore

[Thereisnoif]

By the time these projects are supposed to start, Japan will have already died from the suicidal economic policies that Abe is inflicting on the country.

There won't be a yen left to finance these deals .

[OzMick]

It appears that the Japanese Bank for International Cooperation, 1000 medium size Japanese businesses and the President of Hitachi disagree with your assessment of their investment interests

Japan Bank for International Co-Operation (JBIC)

In recent years, Japanese firms, especially in the automobile, home appliance and electronics industries, have been making vigorous investments in Thailand in an effort to make the country a hub of their production networks in Southeast Asia. With financial support for local Japanese and Thai SMEs through Kasikornbank, it is expected that Japanese firms doing business in Thailand will be able to build advanced supply chains, expand their markets and improve their international competitiveness.

In view of the importance of close economic ties between Japan and Thailand, which serves as a key base for Japanese business activities, JBIC will make efforts to strengthen co-benefiting bilateral relations by helping improve the country's investment climate for Japanese businesses. http://www.jbic.go.jp/en/special/business/002/index.html

>>

More than 1,000 medium-sized Japanese companies are planning to expand their business and invest in Thailand this year, the highest number for seven years, Kasikornbank said yesterday.

Songpol Chevapanyaroj, executive vice president of KBank, which has joined forces with 15 Japanese partner banks that take care of financial matters for Japanese companies investing in Thailand, said the investment size of each company was estimated at between 50 million bath and 100 million baht. http://www.asianewsnet.net/Some-1000-mid-sized-Japan-firms-eye-Thailand--41552.html

Mr. Hiroaki Nakanishi told the Prime Minister Hitachi has been investing in Thailand continuously, making Thailand its hub in the Southeast Asian region. He praised Thailand for the continuous support to the company's investment in Thailand.

Furthermore, Mr. Hiroaki Nakanishi stated that Hitachi is interested in being a part of Thailand's mega-project involving logistic infrastructure development. The Company on this occasion presented its expertise in high-speed rail technology to the government.

http://thainews.prd.go.th/centerweb/newsen/NewsDetail?NT01_NewsID=WNECO5605090010011

I see Hitachi happy to flog trains, but I don't see any reference to Dawei, in Myanmar. I'm quite sure Japanese companies are happy to invest in their own well-thought-out schemes, but I doubt they are willing to trust their cash to Yingluk, despite her vast business and political experience (satire).

Edited May 25, 2013 by OzMick

[amore]

I see Hitachi happy to flog trains, but I don't see any reference to Dawei, in Myanmar. I'm quite sure Japanese companies are happy to invest in their own well-thought-out schemes, but I doubt they are willing to trust their cash to Yingluk, despite her vast business and political experience (satire).

Well you didn't actually mention Dawei in your post so I wouldn't have mentioned it. However now you have, the Dawei Port/Heavy Industrial Area was signed under the last government who at the time were having great problems with the Map Ta Phut Industrial area due to a distinct lack of enviromental impact assessments for the firms working there many of them being forced to close , albeit temporarily. What could be better than to get rid of this enviromental time bomb by putting it in another country completely, one that , at that time, didn't worry about things like enviromental impact. As the man said “I don’t think the people want it in their backyard”, an understatement if ever there was one! (http://www.dvb.no/analysis/not-in-my-backyard/12359)

So Ital-Thai signed a deal saying they would raise the money for the construction of the infrastructure. They failed to do so and the Thai and Myanmar governments had to step in to save the project. Back in 2012 both governments agreed they would try and get the Japanese on board. The Japanese didn't want to know at the time as they didn't like the Ital Thai idea of placing the heavy industrial area and the docks together. Plus the Myanmar government hadn't come up with any set in stone tariffs so it was difficult to see a payback time. The project has been reassessed and Ital-Thai are taking a back seat.

So now the Thai government are trying again by pointing out the fact that the port ,at least, will be beneficial to all of Asean - at least they are trying.

[OzMick]

I see Hitachi happy to flog trains, but I don't see any reference to Dawei, in Myanmar. I'm quite sure Japanese companies are happy to invest in their own well-thought-out schemes, but I doubt they are willing to trust their cash to Yingluk, despite her vast business and political experience (satire).

Well you didn't actually mention Dawei in your post so I wouldn't have mentioned it. However now you have, the Dawei Port/Heavy Industrial Area was signed under the last government who at the time were having great problems with the Map Ta Phut Industrial area due to a distinct lack of enviromental impact assessments for the firms working there many of them being forced to close , albeit temporarily. What could be better than to get rid of this enviromental time bomb by putting it in another country completely, one that , at that time, didn't worry about things like enviromental impact. As the man said “I don’t think the people want it in their backyard”, an understatement if ever there was one! (http://www.dvb.no/analysis/not-in-my-backyard/12359)

So Ital-Thai signed a deal saying they would raise the money for the construction of the infrastructure. They failed to do so and the Thai and Myanmar governments had to step in to save the project. Back in 2012 both governments agreed they would try and get the Japanese on board. The Japanese didn't want to know at the time as they didn't like the Ital Thai idea of placing the heavy industrial area and the docks together. Plus the Myanmar government hadn't come up with any set in stone tariffs so it was difficult to see a payback time. The project has been reassessed and Ital-Thai are taking a back seat.

So now the Thai government are trying again by pointing out the fact that the port ,at least, will be beneficial to all of Asean - at least they are trying.

This thread's subject is PM drums up yen for Dawei, rail plans

[hellodolly]

I wonder what a high speed rail passenger ticket will cost...I'm sure it will be something the typical Thai making around 300 baht a day will be able to afford...or not.

With all the society needs in Thailand it would seem the money (borrowed money) could be better spent at this point in Thailand's development. Just focusing a lot more money towards basic rail transport for goods and passengers seems like it would provide more benefits...but it would be less sexy than high speed rail. Plus, in the locations/cities I've lived during my lifetime whenever a mass transit rail system was built it always ended up costing a lot more and taking much longer to complete than projected. Time will tell.

Hard to say what the rail tickets will cost as none of them are going to the named destinations. They are just one step of the journey. I know the one to connect Bangkok to Chiang Mai is only the first step of a 3 step plan. Plans 2 and 3 are to be picked up by private industry. As for the other two I do not know that much other than they will not go all the way under this set of plans. Completion at another date by unnamed companies.

[hellodolly]

Does she think the Japanese are stupid or some thing. The people she was pitching her ideas to probably know more about the projects than she does.

The corruption in Thailand is well know and the Japanese are not that big into enriching Thai politicians. If they thought they could come out ahead in the deal for the Dawei plans they would have been rite there with there hands out when the Italian firm first balked.

[amore]

I see Hitachi happy to flog trains, but I don't see any reference to Dawei, in Myanmar. I'm quite sure Japanese companies are happy to invest in their own well-thought-out schemes, but I doubt they are willing to trust their cash to Yingluk, despite her vast business and political experience (satire).

Well you didn't actually mention Dawei in your post so I wouldn't have mentioned it. However now you have, the Dawei Port/Heavy Industrial Area was signed under the last government who at the time were having great problems with the Map Ta Phut Industrial area due to a distinct lack of enviromental impact assessments for the firms working there many of them being forced to close , albeit temporarily. What could be better than to get rid of this enviromental time bomb by putting it in another country completely, one that , at that time, didn't worry about things like enviromental impact. As the man said “I don’t think the people want it in their backyard”, an understatement if ever there was one! (http://www.dvb.no/analysis/not-in-my-backyard/12359)

So Ital-Thai signed a deal saying they would raise the money for the construction of the infrastructure. They failed to do so and the Thai and Myanmar governments had to step in to save the project. Back in 2012 both governments agreed they would try and get the Japanese on board. The Japanese didn't want to know at the time as they didn't like the Ital Thai idea of placing the heavy industrial area and the docks together. Plus the Myanmar government hadn't come up with any set in stone tariffs so it was difficult to see a payback time. The project has been reassessed and Ital-Thai are taking a back seat.

So now the Thai government are trying again by pointing out the fact that the port ,at least, will be beneficial to all of Asean - at least they are trying.

This thread's subject is PM drums up yen for Dawei, rail plans

Touchy, aren't we? Your post had this to say

"The headline is completely misleading. The Japanese are interested in SELLING to Thailand, not in supplying the money"

I pointed out a few examples as counterpoints to your posted belief that "The Japanese are interested in SELLING to Thailand, not in supplying the money" and you come back at me for not mentioning Dawei? How does that work then?

So then I discuss the origins of the Dawei Port/Industrial Area and why the Japanese are cagey about investing money in it and your response is shouty capital letters about the thread subjects - both of which I covered in my second post. How does that work then?

Strange.