Y'all are wrong - they're called 'Freedom Fries'!

...but zzap knew this already

I just love how at all the US government cafeterias they went and replaced the word "French" which isn't really a french word, with words like "Liberty" and "Patriot" which are.

cv

Good one cdnvic !!!

French Fries are actually from Belgium, we all knew that (except the usual suspects) but they also speak French there. Poor yanks were probably confused with the French speaking Belgians when they stole the recipies

It don't make a flying you-know-what to us!

One Euroweenie country is the same as another to big strong hairy Yanks!

Well, not turning this thread into a Frog-Bash...perhaps zzap is right. It could be a Trojan Horse.

Talk about paranoia...

French freedom fighters might be hiding in there, Boon Mee!

Y'all are wrong - they're called 'Freedom Fries'!

...but zzap knew this already

I just love how at all the US government cafeterias they went and replaced the word "French" which isn't really a french word, with words like "Liberty" and "Patriot" which are.

cv

Good one cdnvic !!!

French Fries are actually from Belgium, we all knew that (except the usual suspects) but they also speak French there. Poor yanks were probably confused with the French speaking Belgians when they stole the recipies

Not so. It's what our troops were offered in the french bistros after they had liberated France. The english and canadians troops taking a meal at a french cafe already had their own name for them.

Not so. It's what the our troops were offered in the french bistros after they had liberated France. The english and canadians troops already had their own name for them.

...and the peeling of the spuds has been a valuable source of employment for the lower army ranks ever since.

Not so. It's what the our troops were offered in the french bistros after they had liberated France. The english and canadians troops already had their own name for them.

...and the peeling of the spuds has been a valuable source of employment for the lower army ranks ever since.

You and the B-Fly sound like a frikin' broken record on spud-peeling!

Uh...hate to break it to you zapper but they've had machines that peel them spuds for a long time...

Not so. It's what the our troops were offered in the french bistros after they had liberated France. The english and canadians troops already had their own name for them.

...and the peeling of the spuds has been a valuable source of employment for the lower army ranks ever since.

You and the B-Fly sound like a frikin' broken record on spud-peeling!

Uh...hate to break it to you zapper but they've had machines that peel them spuds for a long time...

They must be dangerous machines

After all you always claim that youself and appendage UG bravely served in the forces.

Not so. It's what the our troops were offered in the french bistros after they had liberated France. The english and canadians troops already had their own name for them.

...and the peeling of the spuds has been a valuable source of employment for the lower army ranks ever since.

Buddy you are all mixed up.

Amazing such a "discussion" can occur from food, stupefying really. It was the French President who said that Brits (did he include Americans in this) couldn't be trusted because of their food? So, it's okay to base political decisions on taste concerning food. So, why can't french fries be freedom fries. Maybe we don't trust the french. They do eat snails.

Not so. It's what the our troops were offered in the french bistros after they had liberated France. The english and canadians troops already had their own name for them.

...and the peeling of the spuds has been a valuable source of employment for the lower army ranks ever since.

You and the B-Fly sound like a frikin' broken record on spud-peeling!

Uh...hate to break it to you zapper but they've had machines that peel them spuds for a long time...

They must be dangerous machines

After all you always claim that youself and appendage UG bravely served in the forces.

You could easily cut yourself while cleaning the machines.

Specially the first few models which were introduced in the '40s.

Before this, the peeling also provided a much needed opportunity for the guys to socialise in a leisurely way:

An interesting account of a sailor:

http://www.mohoho.demon.co.uk/autobiog.html

Yeah sure, Ill believe that.

In the regions where the word "chips" is in more common usage, the term "french fries" is usually also understood, but is reserved for the thinner American-style variant as opposed to the much thicker slices of potato found in "fish and chips".

In the U.S. and Canada except for Newfoundland, "chips" usually means potato chips (called "crisps" in the U.K.), which while also made of fried potato, are a completely different type of food. In Australia, New Zealand and South Africa "chips" is used for both potato chips and french fries - the latter is qualified as "hot chips" if there is a chance of confusion (or slap chips in South Africa - slap, pronounced 'slup', being Afrikaans for "soft").

The logical explanation of the origin of the North American name of the dish is that it derives from potatoes that have been "fried in the French manner". The English verb fry is ambiguous: it can refer to both to sautéing and to deep-fat frying, while the French pommes frites or patates frites ("fried potatoes") refers unambiguously to deep frying.

Some feel that the word "french" in "french fries" refers to the verb "to french", which means "to cut in thin lengthwise strips before cooking" (Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Tenth Ed.)

In any case, the first f in french fries is generally written in lower case.

Other accounts say that they were once called 'German fries' but the name was changed either for political reasons (Germany was the enemy of the United States and Allied forces during WWI and WWII) or for simple historical reasons (a traditional theory poses that it was in France during World War I that American soldiers first encountered the dish). This seems unlikely, as Germany was not as famous for its "french fries" as other European countries, in addition to the fact that German immigrants did not seem to bring the dish over to the United States.

The Belgians are noted for claiming that french fries are Belgian in origin, but have presented no absolute evidence;

the French have also been cited as possible creators of the dish, though most in France associated fries with Belgium.

The Spanish claim that the dish was invented in Spain, the first European country in which the potato appeared via the New World colonies, and then spread to Belgium which was then under Spanish rule. However, as Belgian immigrants lived in Spain at the time, it may have well been a 'Spanish' dish invented by a Belgian chef. Whether or not french fries were invented in Belgium or Spain, they have become the national dish, and they (Belgium) are the "symbolic" creators, at least for the rest of Europe. Another claim is that the inclusion of the word "French" in the fried potatoes is most likely a confusion as to the nationality of those who introduced the food to American and Canadian soldiers in World War I. When American and Canadian soldiers were stationed in southern Belgium, where many major battles of World War I took place, they were served "pommes frites". Since the region of Belgium the soldiers were in was predominantly French-speaking, the soldiers brought the dish back to North America incorrectly as "french fries".

In Australia, Britain, Ireland, and many other countries, the term french fries is only used by fast-food restaurants serving narrow-cut (shoestring) fries prepared in the American style. Traditional chips in these countries are usually cut much thicker and cooked for a shorter period of time than American-style french fries, making them less crunchy on the outside and fluffier on the inside. This results in a relatively healthier dish as the area saturated with oil is much less. Chips form one half of the popular British takeaway dish fish and chips. In another example of two nations being divided by their common language, potato chips are called crisps in British English.

all that is from wikipedia.

either way , french fries or chips are hard to resist , be they mcd's or the english chip shop variety.

as for the country of origin , my vote goes to the spanish.

Thanks, Tax, for that definitive lesson on french fries. One other noteworthy comment would be that in America the thicker sliced potatoes are called potato wedges.

After reading this thread I think we can all be assured jobs at McDonalds.

I dont eat french food, i eat Chips!!

One other noteworthy comment would be that in America the thicker sliced potatoes are called potato wedges.

noteworthy doesnt even come close to describing the relevence of that groundbreaking and , dare i say , earthshattering snippet.

One other noteworthy comment would be that in America the thicker sliced potatoes are called potato wedges.

noteworthy doesnt even come close to describing the relevence of that groundbreaking and , dare i say , earthshattering snippet.

Precisely, you never stop learning on TV.

Now, how do I say pommes frites in French when I will be in Paris later this year?

Heck, when anyone thinks of noodles what country do you think of first? Italy, natch. The thieving Italians stole them from the Chinese

Hey watch it! Italians are not dishonest people man!

Aside from that, I don't care what you want to call them or where they come from, I love me some fries, chips or pommes frites! I do prefer the thin-sliced ones like at McD's but I will eat any kind as long as they have plenty of salt on them. In BKK, I particularly like the ones served at the Factory Pool Hall just above soi 5. ###### good ones with extra salt.

In BKK, I particularly like the ones served at the Factory Pool Hall just above soi 5. ###### good ones with extra salt.

Thanks for the tip, I will give it a try

One other noteworthy comment would be that in America the thicker sliced potatoes are called potato wedges.

noteworthy doesnt even come close to describing the relevence of that groundbreaking and , dare i say , earthshattering snippet.

Precisely, you never stop learning on TV.

Now, how do I say pommes frites in French when I will be in Paris later this year?

"Des frites s'il vous plait"

Tks Butterfly, but double posting? Don't overdue otherwise I might order

"Deux frites s'il vous plait"

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Now, how do I say pommes frites in French when I will be in Paris later this year?

"Bonjour Mr Froggy. Avez Vous any chips?"

How do you say 'booby twins' in French?

-les deux frites.

How do you say 'booby twins' in French?

-les deux frites.

Spelling check

"-les deux fruits"

thank you.

and in New Zealand they are called......Chups

How do you say 'booby twins' in French?

-les deux frites.

How about "les deux pommes" if you get my drift

As a consequence of France opposing the whole Iraq thing, French fries were renamed Freedom Fries at the White House, still served by a French chef though.

Truly a matter of national security.

Penz - the whitehouse chef is from the Phillipines.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20050814-1.html

Your right, I was wrong, but still...

While Mr. Scheib was gracious in his parting words, saying that it had been an honor to serve the first lady, sources close to the chef say that his relationship with the first family had grown increasingly tense since he was asked to stop using French recipes and cooking techniques after France refused to support the US-led invasion of Iraq.

http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2005/02/..._house_che.html

You wouldn't think a superpower like the US could be so petty and silly.

Now imagine that brainless dwarf's finger tapping the red button during one of its tantrums...

Btw Mr. Scheib - doesn't sound like a Filipino name to me.

As a consequence of France opposing the whole Iraq thing, French fries were renamed Freedom Fries at the White House, still served by a French chef though.

Truly a matter of national security.

Penz - the whitehouse chef is from the Phillipines.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20050814-1.html

Your right, I was wrong, but still...

While Mr. Scheib was gracious in his parting words, saying that it had been an honor to serve the first lady, sources close to the chef say that his relationship with the first family had grown increasingly tense since he was asked to stop using French recipes and cooking techniques after France refused to support the US-led invasion of Iraq.

http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2005/02/..._house_che.html

Hmmm never thought GWB was a french cooking type of lad anyways - BBQ comes to mind constantly.

Dunno read somewhere that whitehouse chef has always been from the philippines as of late - standing tradition now. Not sure why - perhaps one of our educated yanks here might be able to explain this?

Patatas fritas (french fries, of course always home made never frozen) are spanish origin...we brough/stole potatoes when we conquered America...them spanish women invented this way of cooking them...always with olive oil of course!

There you go. Y'all can vent your anger on the Spanish, it's all their fault !

Spanish Fries, the 2nd most popular invention to come out of Spain, the 1st being Spanish Fly of course !

Sorry Kerryd the spanish fly was imported from Canada....well that´s what i ´ve heard