BookMan Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 4th Quarters starting!! GrantSMith in play for a double upset here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 4th Quarters starting!! GrantSMith in play for a double upset here! Wrong thread BookMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerfish Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 oh dear, well that's buggered what was a good thread started by smokie. sorry mate, but that's me out of here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 There was no hotspot on the ball before it passed the bat; there was one on the ball after it had passed the bat; so where did that hot spot come from; what did the ball hit? The purpose of the DRS is, or at least should be, to correct obvious mistakes by the onfield umpire; so as there was no obvious mistake in this case, the third umpire did the right thing. Regardless of whether Hughes did hit it or not; it should be remembered that players, batters and bowlers from all levels and all countries, complain about the wrong decisions which went against them, but forget the ones in their favour. I'll have to take your word on Maxwell. I've never heard him on ABC, but he does seem to be doing ok on TMS; especially in tandem with McGrath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Apologies for posting in the wrong thread Edited July 20, 2013 by BookMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 There was no hotspot on the ball before it passed the bat; there was one on the ball after it had passed the bat; so where did that hot spot come from; what did the ball hit? Hotspot showed on the ball before it hit the bat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) As I said, I didn't see it. But all the commentary I've heard and reports I've read say that he hit it, the DRS showed he hit it and he knew he'd hit it. Changing the subject: SKY are showing pictures of Geoff Thompson signing autographs and having his photo taken in a hospitality box; God, he's got old! They've also shown pictures of Merv Hughes in the crowd with an Australian tour group; God, he's got fat! Edited July 20, 2013 by 7by7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Enough of all this hotspot <deleted> now ,time to move on to the 'catch that wasn't a catch'!!! Steve Smith catches an edge off Bell at slip.the ball clearly carries ,Smith clearly indicates that he caught it 'clean' .3rd umpire thought otherwise. Lord Gower & Mr Elizabeth Hurley are livid in the 'Royal commentary box' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) duplicate Edited July 20, 2013 by mad mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Another one. Edited July 20, 2013 by mad mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) ..and another one . Edited July 20, 2013 by mad mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Enough of all this hotspot <deleted> now ,time to move on to the 'catch that wasn't a catch'!!! Steve Smith catches an edge off Bell at slip.the ball clearly carries ,Smith clearly indicates that he caught it 'clean' .3rd umpire thought otherwise. Lord Gower & Mr Elizabeth Hurley are livid in the 'Royal commentary box' That was bizarre...looked like a catch to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Gower was trying to explain how the TV foreshortens the view; which it does. Looked out to me; lucky escape for Bell. Well done Joe Root on his first ton at Lords and first Ashes ton; and yet another 50 for Bell. They seem to be pushing on a bit now after tea. Get a lead of around 550 (and let Bell get his hundred) and then have a go at the Aussie batsmen in the last half hour? Don't think we'll be seeing Compton coming back as opener for a while after Root's effort. Though I'd be tempted to drop Pietersen and replace him with Compton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I would think they would want to declare soon as they can and then get a wicket or two this evening, so's they can get to the pub early tomorrow. SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Don't think we'll be seeing Compton coming back as opener for a while after Root's effort. Though I'd be tempted to drop Pietersen and replace him with Compton. ... ....And Compton plays where exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naboo Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Also, an opportunity for Root to get an innings in with little pressure. Confidence for the rest of the tour, hopefully. The Australians have been blown away by this partnership. England should put them in to bat for the last 30 minutes tonight, though England declarations are never as aggressive as I'd like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Don't think we'll be seeing Compton coming back as opener for a while after Root's effort. Though I'd be tempted to drop Pietersen and replace him with Compton. ... ....And Compton plays where exactly? He's only ever opened for England, I believe; but has played further down the order for both Middlesex and Somerset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Don't think we'll be seeing Compton coming back as opener for a while after Root's effort. Though I'd be tempted to drop Pietersen and replace him with Compton. ... ....And Compton plays where exactly? He's only ever opened for England, I believe; but has played further down the order for both Middlesex and Somerset. So he comes in at 4 instead of Pietersen? Is that what you are saying? Can't you honestly think of any other English player that could play at 4 instead of Pietersen that would keep the scoreboard moving above Comptons pedestrian test strike rate of 35... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 In both the first two tests of this series staying in and building a score has been far more important than strike rates. I'd rather Compton scored 100 with a strike rate of 35 at number 4 than Pietersen get out for single figures yet again. Who do you think should replace Pietersen; or do you reckon he should keep his place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naboo Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I don't understand why England have not declared. Leave the Australians wondering overnight whether there will be a morning declaration? Its not going to take 2 days to bowl the Australians out, but what exactly is the point in carrying on batting now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 In both the first two tests of this series staying in and building a score has been far more important than strike rates. I'd rather Compton scored 100 with a strike rate of 35 at number 4 than Pietersen get out for single figures yet again. Who do you think should replace Pietersen; or do you reckon he should keep his place? Compton was only used as someone to see off the new ball in a low key tour of NZ ,that's why his back to back centuries in NZ were so easily dismissed along with Compton himself for this Ashes & the ever developing Root. England have a pretty dynamic middle order that can run away with the score rate at any given point, Pietersen IS the most dangerous & in full flow he can & has torn attacks apart. So yes I'd stick with Pietersen & I totally dismiss your reasoning to Comptons inclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I don't understand why England have not declared. Leave the Australians wondering overnight whether there will be a morning declaration? Its not going to take 2 days to bowl the Australians out, but what exactly is the point in carrying on batting now? Maybe the EWCB want to sell tickets for Monday? But really is there any point in batting on tomorrow, humiliating the Aussies and grinding them further into the dust? Oh, alright then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 Enough of all this hotspot <deleted> now ,time to move on to the 'catch that wasn't a catch'!!! Steve Smith catches an edge off Bell at slip.the ball clearly carries ,Smith clearly indicates that he caught it 'clean' .3rd umpire thought otherwise. Lord Gower & Mr Elizabeth Hurley are livid in the 'Royal commentary box' That was bizarre...looked like a catch to me It was. Now tell me Mr Bookman....what are the Aussies chances now of winning back the wee urn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 In both the first two tests of this series staying in and building a score has been far more important than strike rates. I'd rather Compton scored 100 with a strike rate of 35 at number 4 than Pietersen get out for single figures yet again. Who do you think should replace Pietersen; or do you reckon he should keep his place? Interesting....I doubt Pietersen will lose his place in this series....but he might be frozen out for the next. Surprised by the comment....i thought I was the only one asking the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I think they should let root get his 200, there will be plenty of time to get the Aussies out and have Monday off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 I think they should let root get his 200, there will be plenty of time to get the Aussies out and have Monday off... Nah...let Bell his 100....he deserves it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I don't understand why England have not declared. Leave the Australians wondering overnight whether there will be a morning declaration? Its not going to take 2 days to bowl the Australians out, but what exactly is the point in carrying on batting now? The consensus seems to be that by batting longer, they make the pitch more dangerous for Swann. Makes sense I suppose, they might as well let Root get his 200, get 600 on the board and then skittle out the hapless convicts for another meagre total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I think they should let root get his 200, there will be plenty of time to get the Aussies out and have Monday off... Nah...let Bell his 100....he deserves it more. He can save his for his next game. Tons is four successive Ashes matches. A rare feat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad mary Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I think they should let root get his 200, there will be plenty of time to get the Aussies out and have Monday off... Nah...let Bell his 100....he deserves it more. Bell was out for 74 ,just as him and Root were pushing on & flailing the toothless aussie attack to all corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 I think they should let root get his 200, there will be plenty of time to get the Aussies out and have Monday off... Nah...let Bell his 100....he deserves it more. Bell was out for 74 ,just as him and Root were pushing on & flailing the toothless aussie attack to all corners. I see that now.....oh well the 200 then. Its a tough decision.....where is Bookman....and David48? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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