webfact Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 False start for Phuket murder trial of Swedish manPhuket GazetteThe trial of Johan Sebastian Ljung (pictured), charged with the murder of fellow Swede Maksim Schantz in 2011, was deferred to September 9 yesterday after the case investigator failed to show up. Photo: Gazette filePHUKET: -- The murder trial of Johan Sebastian Ljung – charged for his role in the killing of fellow Swedish national Maksim Schantz in Phuket two years ago – floundered yesterday after the case investigator failed to present himself in court.Mr Ljung, 25 at the time of the killing, was brought from Phuket Provincial Prison, located immediately next to the court, to appear in front of the judge at 1:30pm.However, after an hour and a half of waiting, the judge informed the court that he had been told the case investigator was unable to attend, and so decided to defer the trial until September 9.Throughout the long wait, Mr Ljung sat in front of the judge and stared solemnly at the floor.Yesterday was to mark the start of the trial, opening with police testimony to support the charge of murder.Mr Ljung had previously accepted the charge against him.However, the Phuket Provincial Court today declined to reveal to the Phuket Gazette whether or not Mr Ljung has entered a pleaSource: http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket_news/2013/False-start-for-Phuket-murder-trial-of-Swedish-man-21480.html-- Phuket Gazette 2013-06-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tatsujin Posted June 28, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2013 Does the "case investigator" get fined or slapped on the wrist for wasting everyone's time and money? Or is it common practice for people to just not turn up at Court and not let anyone know about it? 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Someone screwed the pooch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) Does the "case investigator" get fined or slapped on the wrist for wasting everyone's time and money? Or is it common practice for people to just not turn up at Court and not let anyone know about it? Well based on what apparently happens under these circumstances in the wonderful farang paradise of Britain, everyone has a giggle, cracks a few jokes and is told that "questions would be asked," which probably set off another round of giggles. The estimate of cost for a bunch of solicitors and the court twiddling their thumbs for three hours running to £6.50 is typical lawyer hyperbole. CASES at Grimsby magistrates were suddenly thrown into chaos yesterday when an embarrassing "mix-up" led to no prosecutor turning up for the main court. Seven defence solicitors were left twiddling their thumbs after it became apparent that there was nobody to prosecute the cases on the list. Defence solicitors were left to rue the irony of the fact that they have been repeatedly sternly warned in recent weeks that they must be ready to start court on time. The lack of a prosecutor meant that a whole series of cases had to be adjourned. Solicitor Richard Hackfath joked: "By the time we have all stood here for three hours, it will have cost the taxpayer £6.50. Court legal adviser Zoe Nixon said the mix-up was very unfortunate and that the mistake was clearly not intentional. Questions would, however, be asked about how the blunder happened. Mr Furman filled in the time by cracking a series of jokes. Edited June 28, 2013 by Suradit69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GeorgeO Posted June 28, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2013 Does the "case investigator" get fined or slapped on the wrist for wasting everyone's time and money? Or is it common practice for people to just not turn up at Court and not let anyone know about it? In the UK, this is known as 'Contempt of Court' and carries substantial penalties, including imprisonment...! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabanlit Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 But, in Grimsby, "questions would, however, be asked...". The best hoped for here would be for a committee to be formed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy The Kid Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Investigators got paid by his family i reckon, to do that, the court trial will be void then he will be set free, money buys anything only in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee b Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 And the judge turner up at 4pm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 thai people and comming on time either 30-60 min early before appointment or 1-2 hours late or not show up at all and calling many hours later they will come next week thainess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Gezz his skin is very white, most Thais would be very jealous. It look s like he has not seen the sun? I thought murder suspects got bail in Thailand, or is that after they are convicted? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre0720 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 "after the case investigator failed to show up"Informing the court would have been useful. The case investigator should highly consider buying one of those mobile phones.I have seen some. Might be available in Thailand... Worth checking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 But, in Grimsby, "questions would, however, be asked...". The best hoped for here would be for a committee to be formed. The biggest question asked in Grimsby is "Why are we here?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Does the "case investigator" get fined or slapped on the wrist for wasting everyone's time and money? Or is it common practice for people to just not turn up at Court and not let anyone know about it? Well based on what apparently happens under these circumstances in the wonderful farang paradise of Britain, everyone has a giggle, cracks a few jokes and is told that "questions would be asked," which probably set off another round of giggles. The estimate of cost for a bunch of solicitors and the court twiddling their thumbs for three hours running to £6.50 is typical lawyer hyperbole. CASES at Grimsby magistrates were suddenly thrown into chaos yesterday when an embarrassing "mix-up" led to no prosecutor turning up for the main court. Seven defence solicitors were left twiddling their thumbs after it became apparent that there was nobody to prosecute the cases on the list. Defence solicitors were left to rue the irony of the fact that they have been repeatedly sternly warned in recent weeks that they must be ready to start court on time. The lack of a prosecutor meant that a whole series of cases had to be adjourned. Solicitor Richard Hackfath joked: "By the time we have all stood here for three hours, it will have cost the taxpayer £6.50. Court legal adviser Zoe Nixon said the mix-up was very unfortunate and that the mistake was clearly not intentional. Questions would, however, be asked about how the blunder happened. Mr Furman filled in the time by cracking a series of jokes. What crap you post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrooks Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Does the "case investigator" get fined or slapped on the wrist for wasting everyone's time and money? Or is it common practice for people to just not turn up at Court and not let anyone know about it? Well in Thailand court attendance seems to be not important. Maybe it was not paid enough, over slept, only a Farlang case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 "Well in Thailand court attendance seems to be not important." By Jove, I think he's got it! Doesn't matter so much what happens in the front rooms, it is the back room deals and sharing of the spoils/milking of the cow. They could care less if one farang kills another, outside of how much each of the "law" side reaps to make this go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangarang Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Sounds like a possible payoff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movsrus Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 The fix is in and he will walk. Wonder how much tea money this cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwan Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Does the "case investigator" get fined or slapped on the wrist for wasting everyone's time and money? Or is it common practice for people to just not turn up at Court and not let anyone know about it? Well based on what apparently happens under these circumstances in the wonderful farang paradise of Britain, everyone has a giggle, cracks a few jokes and is told that "questions would be asked," which probably set off another round of giggles. The estimate of cost for a bunch of solicitors and the court twiddling their thumbs for three hours running to £6.50 is typical lawyer hyperbole. CASES at Grimsby magistrates were suddenly thrown into chaos yesterday when an embarrassing "mix-up" led to no prosecutor turning up for the main court. Seven defence solicitors were left twiddling their thumbs after it became apparent that there was nobody to prosecute the cases on the list. Defence solicitors were left to rue the irony of the fact that they have been repeatedly sternly warned in recent weeks that they must be ready to start court on time. The lack of a prosecutor meant that a whole series of cases had to be adjourned. Solicitor Richard Hackfath joked: "By the time we have all stood here for three hours, it will have cost the taxpayer £6.50. Court legal adviser Zoe Nixon said the mix-up was very unfortunate and that the mistake was clearly not intentional. Questions would, however, be asked about how the blunder happened. Mr Furman filled in the time by cracking a series of jokes. What crap you post. And this is an intelligent response? An illuminating indication of your debating skills. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1020 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Does the "case investigator" get fined Don't worry, it's probably only a fraction of the money paid to be absent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Does the "case investigator" get fined or slapped on the wrist for wasting everyone's time and money? Or is it common practice for people to just not turn up at Court and not let anyone know about it? Well based on what apparently happens under these circumstances in the wonderful farang paradise of Britain, everyone has a giggle, cracks a few jokes and is told that "questions would be asked," which probably set off another round of giggles. The estimate of cost for a bunch of solicitors and the court twiddling their thumbs for three hours running to £6.50 is typical lawyer hyperbole. CASES at Grimsby magistrates were suddenly thrown into chaos yesterday when an embarrassing "mix-up" led to no prosecutor turning up for the main court. Seven defence solicitors were left twiddling their thumbs after it became apparent that there was nobody to prosecute the cases on the list. Defence solicitors were left to rue the irony of the fact that they have been repeatedly sternly warned in recent weeks that they must be ready to start court on time. The lack of a prosecutor meant that a whole series of cases had to be adjourned. Solicitor Richard Hackfath joked: "By the time we have all stood here for three hours, it will have cost the taxpayer £6.50. Court legal adviser Zoe Nixon said the mix-up was very unfortunate and that the mistake was clearly not intentional. Questions would, however, be asked about how the blunder happened. Mr Furman filled in the time by cracking a series of jokes. Does it not occur to you that the prosecutor not turning up in the UK case made the local press whereby in Thailand it's so common it's not worthy of comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeg Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 But, in Grimsby, "questions would, however, be asked...". The best hoped for here would be for a committee to be formed. They wouldn't even bother with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneyjed Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Again serious scrutiny and the Phuket judicial system under the microscope after the two Australian bikie gang linked members(sorry tattoo palour 'business'owners)were set free after pleading 'guilty' to 'accidental attempted murder' of two German tourists..after serving only two months jail...The Australian press are already onto this and this just adds petrol to the already massive bonfire.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikeybkk Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 actually it is quite a common occurrence in Thailand, but the ironic thing is the defendant has to pay everyone's fees still, even the judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user786895 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Does the "case investigator" get fined or slapped on the wrist for wasting everyone's time and money? Or is it common practice for people to just not turn up at Court and not let anyone know about it? Well based on what apparently happens under these circumstances in the wonderful farang paradise of Britain, everyone has a giggle, cracks a few jokes and is told that "questions would be asked," which probably set off another round of giggles. The estimate of cost for a bunch of solicitors and the court twiddling their thumbs for three hours running to £6.50 is typical lawyer hyperbole. CASES at Grimsby magistrates were suddenly thrown into chaos yesterday when an embarrassing "mix-up" led to no prosecutor turning up for the main court. Seven defence solicitors were left twiddling their thumbs after it became apparent that there was nobody to prosecute the cases on the list. Defence solicitors were left to rue the irony of the fact that they have been repeatedly sternly warned in recent weeks that they must be ready to start court on time. The lack of a prosecutor meant that a whole series of cases had to be adjourned. Solicitor Richard Hackfath joked: "By the time we have all stood here for three hours, it will have cost the taxpayer £6.50. Court legal adviser Zoe Nixon said the mix-up was very unfortunate and that the mistake was clearly not intentional. Questions would, however, be asked about how the blunder happened. Mr Furman filled in the time by cracking a series of jokes. £6.50! You and the person responsible for that typo are kidding; more £6,500.00. That is the cost of the Magistrate, the costs of the Magistrates Clerk, the Court Usher, the CPS lawyer, the witnesses for the prosecution, we haven't even mentioned the costs for the defence team and witnesses. The laughter? Comes from getting paid to do nothing. In the UK this also risks the charges being dropped and the person being freed then and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bander Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Mr Furman filled in the time by cracking a series of jokes. Mr Furman cracking jokes in a murder case.....maybe the defended have some good jokes as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter88 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 The first step in going free. Can you say Baht? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DekDaeng Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Mr Furman filled in the time by cracking a series of jokes. Mr Furman cracking jokes in a murder case.....maybe the defended have some good jokes as well The biggest joke, in both cases, is the 'justice' system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Mr Furman filled in the time by cracking a series of jokes. Mr Furman cracking jokes in a murder case.....maybe the defended have some good jokes as well Bander > you've "quoted" me . . . but I didn't write that . . . another person did in reply to my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectrumisgreen Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Investigators got paid by his family i reckon, to do that, the court trial will be void then he will be set free, money buys anything only in Thailand. '.. money buys anything ONLY in Thailand.'??? F* me!! Now that has to be the most naive thing I've heard for a long while!! Nice one, Billy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ableguy Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 But, in Grimsby, "questions would, however, be asked...". The best hoped for here would be for a committee to be formed. The biggest question asked in Grimsby is "Why are we here?" And turn the lights out, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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