We'll beat corruption: new minister

[OzMick]

Don't get me wrong but why do non-Thais get excited about the Thai government is screwing its own people? I (a Farang living here for 28 years) for one have no problem with it and if corruption is the name of the game here - so be it.

Let those who can decide - decide and if their educational levels do not exceed the ability of reading a clock or lashing shoestrings, so be it. Later not wonder after having the fourth minister in charge of education over the last 22 months.

Enjoy the weather and the fact that you do not have to pay taxes for all this slime and filth as in your home countries (Europe, North America or Australasia) you would pay and have no say either 8-)

And why give a blind bugger about your children, and eventual grandchildren? Teach them your morality, but to accept the lack of it in the rest of the nation.

[dave1212]

Hats off to the lad....looks like he kept a straight face while saying that. Not easy to do with that level

of BS

[GeorgeO]

Commerce Min to tackle corruption problem, while Agriculture Min pushes ahead agricultural zoning

BANGKOK, 7 July 2013 (NNT) – The Commerce Minister has vowed to improve effectiveness of the ministry’s work, while the Agriculture Minister is set to push ahead the move to promote agricultural zoning throughout the country.

Deputy Prime Minister and Commerce Minister Niwatthamrong Boonsongpaisan has assured that the government will improve its system with more effectiveness of its work, while all processes will be conducted based on transparency. The minister emphasized on the rice pledging program in which many skeptical cases were found after an inspection of rice warehouses had been launched nationwide. He also assured that all personnel are working very hard for the people and that its mission is to bring the country to a success.

Meanwhile, Warathep Ratanakorn, Minister of the Prime Minister’s Office and Deputy Agriculture Minister, has urged all related agencies and also the people to observe the government’s procurement process of agricultural products as it would help reduce or even prevent any corruption acts. Furthermore, he said the ministry is now speeding up its process to help Thai farmers cope with debts as well as helping them create more earnings by adopting an idea called "agricultural zoning". He said the ministry is set to educate the farmers regarding the issue, so that they can make better use of their land.

-- NNT 2013-07-07

If there was ever an opportunity for even more graft, it would be to introduce agricultural zoning.

Those with no influence whatsoever would be directed to produce the lower end (less profitable) products, whilst others with friends in high places would be directed to produce the high-end products (for an appropriately-sized envelope to the authorizing body)...!

[MaxLee]

FYUI Europe is gonna be broke themselves,...

What an erratic logic...

[atyclb]

"confident of success because he has a strong team of two capable deputies."

That's like saying we have have a great anchor for our ship and the chain holding the anchor has 2 working links.

[drdoom6996]

Further, Yingluck said Poland had technological advancement in its agriculture sector.

New ways of making shoes.

[bigbamboo]

"Yingluck, meanwhile, vowed to increase bilateral trade and investment between Thailand and Poland - to US$1 billion - within five years. She said Thailand and Poland officially established ties over 40 years but had yet to see buoyant growth in trade and investment."

Do you think Poland is not interested in advancing economic ties the same as every other country because Thailand will screw you every chance they get. Screw in a bad way. Most countries will give incentives for other countries to do business with them. Not Thailand, start your business and we will make as many problems as possible then we will take your technology for ourselves.

Every leader comes out with same guff at an official visit. It's like promising everyone you meet at a party you will come to visit them very soon!

But who briefs the PM on her statements? Poland is the gateway to Europe? Poland is at the centre of Europe? And is she also aware that Poland is a massively negative contributor to the EU?

In short, these farang no have money, honey.

[whybother]

The PM has said there is no corruption in the rice scheme, so looks like has been successful.

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[Cuban]

Really ?

Exactly where will he start, if every post at every level is on the take.....!

[timewilltell]

The incompetence is too much to bear - except it isn't incompetence.

The rice scam was intended to help the millers, the middlemen and a new class of warehouse owners - all in the pockets of the PTP. The glossy cover is that the scheme is to help the poor farmer which is of course the shiny wrapping on a present that is full of toxicity.

The biggest farmers are wealthy and friends of the PTP who are able to avoid humidity issues which result in a clawback on the price paid to small farmers. the big boys avoid it as they can afford better handling and better bribes. They receive the most benefit within the 'farmers' slice of this gargantuan corruption cake.

Others are the landowners the smallholders rent from - rents doubled since they ensure their slice of the bounty.

Next the fertiliser manufacturers who are selling much more and who have also increased margins by raising prices.

Then we have the middlemen mostly controlled by the rice processors who together screw the small farmer and are the ones paid by the government and thus in control of the money which is aggressively filtered out before the little farmer gets his few satang.

Then there are the rich opportunists and friends of the PTP who were tipped off for the storage of millions of tons of rice at prices that seem to be pretty secretive.

Then the others who are mixed in together acting criminally by importing lower priced rice from Vietnam and Cambodia and selling it into the scheme for a quick profit and the customs and police who are paid to turn a blind eye. Never mind those stealing the rice and selling it back in a merry go round of illegal scamming.

Then we have the police paid extra millions to do the job of ensuring a (lack) of transparency.

Then we have the Commerce Ministry who refuse to divulge details of the figures to the Finance Ministry claimimg they are confidential. How one ministry can stop the Finance Ministry from doing its job is astounding and about as obvious an admission of a cover up you could find.

Then you have Supha who says the scam is open to corruption because there are 10 government agencies involved and so many opportunities. Of course Thais are opportunists and the biggest opportunists are the criminal and corrupt, so the outcome of all these opportunities for corruption is obvious.

She indicates losses bigger than the 130 billion admitted and is pilloried by all and sundry for beginning to take the shiny wrapper off.

And yet on the one hand you have the new puppets in government practically screaming how they are going to stop the corruption while everyone else in the government is saying there is no corruption and trying to gag Supha. Well either there is corruption as Supha claims and as everyone else knows, or there is no corruption which is the premise of the witch hunt against Supha.

The government admits millions of tons missing and irregularities yet attacks a government officer saying the same thing, it is simply preposterous - or maybe just Thai?

Since none of the figures includes storage or spoilage costs, I recon this scam is going to cost a TRILLION baht when the rice has stopped rotting. From which the small farmer will benefit about nothing after all the increased costs and not only that they will have no industry left for years with Thai rice losing all international credibility.

So having destroyed the farmers livelihood for rice farming now they have bright idea of agricultural zoning so they can print another glossy wrapping to shout how the PTP are helping the poor farmers.

You would think the villagers have heard PeTer P cry wolf enough times, yet Thai gullibility seems not to have reached its bounds; maybe it has no bounds and by the way they are closing all the schools to perpetuate mass ignorance, maybe the Thaksin controlled K Water scam will flood Thailand with more corruption and the 2.2 TRILLION baht borrowing will finally ensure the next several generations of Thais are indebted to an even greater degree than the criminal bankers in Europe and America have as yet managed to indebt those respective populations.

Oh what a mess democracy has led this world into. How sad for the children we love. How shamed we should all feel for letting corrupt politicians across the world do so much damage without so much as a complaint.

Edited July 7, 2013 by timewilltell

[Emdog]

""confident of success because he has a strong team of two capable deputies."A bit short on man power me thinks." He has the bat signal out looking for Batman and Robin. He turned down Lone Ranger and Tonto, I hear. If government wants to beat corruption, does that qualify as "self abuse"?

[Bluespunk]

Don't get me wrong but why do non-Thais get excited about the Thai government is screwing its own people? I (a Farang living here for 28 years) for one have no problem with it and if corruption is the name of the game here - so be it.

Let those who can decide - decide and if their educational levels do not exceed the ability of reading a clock or lashing shoestrings, so be it. Later not wonder after having the fourth minister in charge of education over the last 22 months.

Enjoy the weather and the fact that you do not have to pay taxes for all this slime and filth as in your home countries (Europe, North America or Australasia) you would pay and have no say either 8-)

A: what happens in this country affects us all, regardless of nationality. If a country is riddled with corruption nothing gets done and we all suffer.

B: most taxes are indirect and we all pay them. I also pay income tax.

C: slime and filth? Who are you referring to with this comment?

Edited July 7, 2013 by Bluespunk

[billd766]

Where Do they get these losers from?

The dole queue?

[Robby nz]

The new minister of commerce tells us he has 2 trusted deputies who are: Mr.Yanyong Phuangrach

Mr. Yanyong Phuangrach has been appointed as Non-Executive Independent Director of C. P. Pokphand Co Ltd., effective 31 December 2012. He obtained a Bachelor’s degree in Laws from Chulalongkorn University, Thailand and a Master’s degree in Laws from New York University, United States of America. Mr. Phuangrach is a Thai Barrister at Law. He was the Permanent Secretary of Commerce, Thailand from 2009 to September 2012.

And none other than : Mr.Nattawut Saikuar who I suspect you all know from his exploits as a red shirt leader of turn the country into a sea of flame fame.

Both should have an excellent grasp of how to squeeze the last bit of corruption out of anything

[Thait Spot]

If the good Lord himself flew in on a fluffy white cloud and said he was going to abolish corruption in Thailand I'm afraid it wouldn't quite cut it for me.

This bunch stands no chance of convincing me. If they wanted to make a start they could arrest Thaksin

[ramrod711]

"In the same way that we are gateway to Asean, Poland is gateway to the EU. If we team up, we can be gateways to the two continents. Poland wants to expand investment to Asean,'' she said.

Exactly! Poland and Thailand, gateways to their seperate trading blocks. Well, perhaps not gateways, just mutually unimportant countries with poor reputations in their trading blocks.

[pisico]

Beat corruption? Not in the rice scheme or anywhere else in the Kingdom.

ABAC has published results of yet another survey on this subject conducted in 17 provinces, including Bangkok. No surprises there. Poll after poll show that Thais are OK with corruption as long as it benefits them.

65 % of Thais. Percentage slightly higher among men than women.

We cannot fault the man for trying. In due time he will feel like a salmon swimming from Antarctica all the way to Fairbanks, Alaska.

TIT and it will be so for generations to come.

[Pattaya28]

Is corruption a problem in Thailand ??

[hellodolly]

He can beat an egg. He can beat his meat, but he can not beat corruption in his government which was tailor made to maximize corruption and benefits to its lord.

Damn you beat me to the second option.

The article claimed

"The government believed that agricultural zoning was a long-term solution to support farmers deal with the plunge in the price of rice"

I was not following it that close when the huge supplement came in to being. Now they say they are going to continue it for a while due to the plunge in the price of rice.

Does any one know how much if any it has plunged since they started the support until they just recently decided to continue it.?

[bigbamboo]

Don't get me wrong but why do non-Thais get excited about the Thai government is screwing its own people? I (a Farang living here for 28 years) for one have no problem with it and if corruption is the name of the game here - so be it.

Let those who can decide - decide and if their educational levels do not exceed the ability of reading a clock or lashing shoestrings, so be it. Later not wonder after having the fourth minister in charge of education over the last 22 months.

Enjoy the weather and the fact that you do not have to pay taxes for all this slime and filth as in your home countries (Europe, North America or Australasia) you would pay and have no say either 8-)

If you are an old bar lizard content to live out the rest of your existence here then I can almost understand your attitude.

However, many of us have families and we would like to see our children grow up in a decent, honest society.

That's why we care.

Edited July 7, 2013 by bigbamboo

[Mudcrab]

The incompetence is too much to bear - except it isn't incompetence.

The rice scam was intended to help the millers, the middlemen and a new class of warehouse owners - all in the pockets of the PTP. The glossy cover is that the scheme is to help the poor farmer which is of course the shiny wrapping on a present that is full of toxicity.

The biggest farmers are wealthy and friends of the PTP who are able to avoid humidity issues which result in a clawback on the price paid to small farmers. the big boys avoid it as they can afford better handling and better bribes. They receive the most benefit within the 'farmers' slice of this gargantuan corruption cake.

Others are the landowners the smallholders rent from - rents doubled since they ensure their slice of the bounty.

Next the fertiliser manufacturers who are selling much more and who have also increased margins by raising prices.

Then we have the middlemen mostly controlled by the rice processors who together screw the small farmer and are the ones paid by the government and thus in control of the money which is aggressively filtered out before the little farmer gets his few satang.

Then there are the rich opportunists and friends of the PTP who were tipped off for the storage of millions of tons of rice at prices that seem to be pretty secretive.

Then the others who are mixed in together acting criminally by importing lower priced rice from Vietnam and Cambodia and selling it into the scheme for a quick profit and the customs and police who are paid to turn a blind eye. Never mind those stealing the rice and selling it back in a merry go round of illegal scamming.

Then we have the police paid extra millions to do the job of ensuring a (lack) of transparency.

Then we have the Commerce Ministry who refuse to divulge details of the figures to the Finance Ministry claimimg they are confidential. How one ministry can stop the Finance Ministry from doing its job is astounding and about as obvious an admission of a cover up you could find.

Then you have Supha who says the scam is open to corruption because there are 10 government agencies involved and so many opportunities. Of course Thais are opportunists and the biggest opportunists are the criminal and corrupt, so the outcome of all these opportunities for corruption is obvious.

She indicates losses bigger than the 130 billion admitted and is pilloried by all and sundry for beginning to take the shiny wrapper off.

And yet on the one hand you have the new puppets in government practically screaming how they are going to stop the corruption while everyone else in the government is saying there is no corruption and trying to gag Supha. Well either there is corruption as Supha claims and as everyone else knows, or there is no corruption which is the premise of the witch hunt against Supha.

The government admits millions of tons missing and irregularities yet attacks a government officer saying the same thing, it is simply preposterous - or maybe just Thai?

Since none of the figures includes storage or spoilage costs, I recon this scam is going to cost a TRILLION baht when the rice has stopped rotting. From which the small farmer will benefit about nothing after all the increased costs and not only that they will have no industry left for years with Thai rice losing all international credibility.

So having destroyed the farmers livelihood for rice farming now they have bright idea of agricultural zoning so they can print another glossy wrapping to shout how the PTP are helping the poor farmers.

You would think the villagers have heard PeTer P cry wolf enough times, yet Thai gullibility seems not to have reached its bounds; maybe it has no bounds and by the way they are closing all the schools to perpetuate mass ignorance, maybe the Thaksin controlled K Water scam will flood Thailand with more corruption and the 2.2 TRILLION baht borrowing will finally ensure the next several generations of Thais are indebted to an even greater degree than the criminal bankers in Europe and America have as yet managed to indebt those respective populations.

Oh what a mess democracy has led this world into. How sad for the children we love. How shamed we should all feel for letting corrupt politicians across the world do so much damage without so much as a complaint.

All good sound bites.....do you have any actual proof of any of this ??

[hellodolly]

Don't get me wrong but why do non-Thais get excited about the Thai government is screwing its own people? I (a Farang living here for 28 years) for one have no problem with it and if corruption is the name of the game here - so be it.

Let those who can decide - decide and if their educational levels do not exceed the ability of reading a clock or lashing shoestrings, so be it. Later not wonder after having the fourth minister in charge of education over the last 22 months.

Enjoy the weather and the fact that you do not have to pay taxes for all this slime and filth as in your home countries (Europe, North America or Australasia) you would pay and have no say either 8-)

And why give a blind bugger about your children, and eventual grandchildren? Teach them your morality, but to accept the lack of it in the rest of the nation.

I read that and my initial thought was Thai bashing to make himself feel good.

I now think that he says what he says because they are also his values. They are what he will pass on to his children and if there is any grandchildren.

To each his own.

Unfortunately it harms the people and the country.

Take all the money that goes into corruption and put it into health care and you would have the manpower and resources to give every Thai in Thailand a free quality health care plan.

[rubl]

In the mean time Dept. Minister of Commerce Nattawut is asked to explain his statement on no irregularities in 1400 redundant warehouse and miller checks.

[finnomick]

Good luck....are you starting from the top down, or from the bottom up ?

[i claudius]

The minister that said that they would "beat corruption" is now feeling better and is recovering back at home.

[rbrooks]

Reshuffle

Make a statement

Begin study

Reshuffle

Make a statement

Begin ....

and the ponies on the roundabout keep bobbing along with no riders.

Don't forget placing nice flowers on desk for photo op.

[DekDaeng]

Me first me first me first!

Planet Thailand - Hub of beating corruption!

[hawker9000]

The only way this is news is if he's serious, in which case I hope his life insurance is paid up (and there'll be another headline hereabouts). Not really anticipating that though...

[Thai at Heart]

The incompetence is too much to bear - except it isn't incompetence.

The rice scam was intended to help the millers, the middlemen and a new class of warehouse owners - all in the pockets of the PTP. The glossy cover is that the scheme is to help the poor farmer which is of course the shiny wrapping on a present that is full of toxicity.

The biggest farmers are wealthy and friends of the PTP who are able to avoid humidity issues which result in a clawback on the price paid to small farmers. the big boys avoid it as they can afford better handling and better bribes. They receive the most benefit within the 'farmers' slice of this gargantuan corruption cake.

Others are the landowners the smallholders rent from - rents doubled since they ensure their slice of the bounty.

Next the fertiliser manufacturers who are selling much more and who have also increased margins by raising prices.

Then we have the middlemen mostly controlled by the rice processors who together screw the small farmer and are the ones paid by the government and thus in control of the money which is aggressively filtered out before the little farmer gets his few satang.

Then there are the rich opportunists and friends of the PTP who were tipped off for the storage of millions of tons of rice at prices that seem to be pretty secretive.

Then the others who are mixed in together acting criminally by importing lower priced rice from Vietnam and Cambodia and selling it into the scheme for a quick profit and the customs and police who are paid to turn a blind eye. Never mind those stealing the rice and selling it back in a merry go round of illegal scamming.

Then we have the police paid extra millions to do the job of ensuring a (lack) of transparency.

Then we have the Commerce Ministry who refuse to divulge details of the figures to the Finance Ministry claimimg they are confidential. How one ministry can stop the Finance Ministry from doing its job is astounding and about as obvious an admission of a cover up you could find.

Then you have Supha who says the scam is open to corruption because there are 10 government agencies involved and so many opportunities. Of course Thais are opportunists and the biggest opportunists are the criminal and corrupt, so the outcome of all these opportunities for corruption is obvious.

She indicates losses bigger than the 130 billion admitted and is pilloried by all and sundry for beginning to take the shiny wrapper off.

And yet on the one hand you have the new puppets in government practically screaming how they are going to stop the corruption while everyone else in the government is saying there is no corruption and trying to gag Supha. Well either there is corruption as Supha claims and as everyone else knows, or there is no corruption which is the premise of the witch hunt against Supha.

The government admits millions of tons missing and irregularities yet attacks a government officer saying the same thing, it is simply preposterous - or maybe just Thai?

Since none of the figures includes storage or spoilage costs, I recon this scam is going to cost a TRILLION baht when the rice has stopped rotting. From which the small farmer will benefit about nothing after all the increased costs and not only that they will have no industry left for years with Thai rice losing all international credibility.

So having destroyed the farmers livelihood for rice farming now they have bright idea of agricultural zoning so they can print another glossy wrapping to shout how the PTP are helping the poor farmers.

You would think the villagers have heard PeTer P cry wolf enough times, yet Thai gullibility seems not to have reached its bounds; maybe it has no bounds and by the way they are closing all the schools to perpetuate mass ignorance, maybe the Thaksin controlled K Water scam will flood Thailand with more corruption and the 2.2 TRILLION baht borrowing will finally ensure the next several generations of Thais are indebted to an even greater degree than the criminal bankers in Europe and America have as yet managed to indebt those respective populations.

Oh what a mess democracy has led this world into. How sad for the children we love. How shamed we should all feel for letting corrupt politicians across the world do so much damage without so much as a complaint.

All good sound bites.....do you have any actual proof of any of this ??

None of which other than fiddling a farmer on his moisture, is illegal or corrupt. It's just business.

Very sad, but just business.

[scorecard]

Well he's made the big statement - 'we'll beat corruption'

But nothing more in terms of how, so what's his next big move to 'beat corruption'.

I'll take a bet there will be nothing more of any substance either from yingluck or the new minister.

BTW what happened to plodprasop, where did he end up in the last round of musical chairs?

Edited July 8, 2013 by scorecard