Protesters call on Thai Army to stage 'peaceful coup'

[Orac]

Bottom line is that due to the power of the military it needs to be paid off in some way or else they take matters into their own hands. Those who seem to have fond memories of the junta that took over in the coup of 2006 seem to forget that they were pretty poor at running the country - remember the US$.22billion wiped off the stock market in a single day due to the capital controls imposes in Dec 2006?

As for extra money that found its way to the military there is a useful article here:

By 2009, defense budgets had doubled from $2.4 billion in fiscal 2006 to $4.8 billion in fiscal 2009. During the same period, the budget allocation for internal security rose from $2.2 billion to $3.26 billion as the threat of anti-government street protests rose.

http://atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/LB26Ae01.html

[OzMick]

"So lets have another coup to get rid of this lot"

Why does "Mark" need the army to get him elected if he is so good for the country? There will be another election in the not so distant future, everyone who can vote will be able to vote for THEIR government, will they choose your beloved Mark? I doubt it.

Perhaps it is because he refuses to offer populist vote-buying policies that would prove ruinous to the country. Of course you have to be some sort of fascist to suggest that government should be responsible as well as popular, or that there is more to democracy than who gets the most votes.

[OzMick]

Bottom line is that due to the power of the military it needs to be paid off in some way or else they take matters into their own hands. Those who seem to have fond memories of the junta that took over in the coup of 2006 seem to forget that they were pretty poor at running the country - remember the US$.22billion wiped off the stock market in a single day due to the capital controls imposes in Dec 2006?

As for extra money that found its way to the military there is a useful article here:

By 2009, defense budgets had doubled from $2.4 billion in fiscal 2006 to $4.8 billion in fiscal 2009. During the same period, the budget allocation for internal security rose from $2.2 billion to $3.26 billion as the threat of anti-government street protests rose.

http://atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/LB26Ae01.html

Fluctuations in the stock market are a poor way of judging damage to a country. At the moment the SET is strong, while millions of tonnes of unsaleable rice mount up and hundreds of billions of baht go to waste buying and storing it. Not to mention the blatant corruption and self-interest of rich politicians making windfall profits on their rent increases.

Which figures BTW make the military budget look like small potatoes.

[jayboy]

"So lets have another coup to get rid of this lot"

Why does "Mark" need the army to get him elected if he is so good for the country? There will be another election in the not so distant future, everyone who can vote will be able to vote for THEIR government, will they choose your beloved Mark? I doubt it.

Perhaps it is because he refuses to offer populist vote-buying policies that would prove ruinous to the country. Of course you have to be some sort of fascist to suggest that government should be responsible as well as popular, or that there is more to democracy than who gets the most votes.

That would be a somewhat more compelling argument if Abhisit and his government had not adopted Thaksin's so called populist programmes hook, line and sinker - indeed enhanced them.

As for the economic impact of these policies it is absurd to suggest they are ruinous to the country.The numbers simply don't support this.

[Noistar]

"So lets have another coup to get rid of this lot"

Why does "Mark" need the army to get him elected if he is so good for the country? There will be another election in the not so distant future, everyone who can vote will be able to vote for THEIR government, will they choose your beloved Mark? I doubt it.

Perhaps it is because he refuses to offer populist vote-buying policies that would prove ruinous to the country. Of course you have to be some sort of fascist to suggest that government should be responsible as well as popular, or that there is more to democracy than who gets the most votes.

That would be a somewhat more compelling argument if Abhisit and his government had not adopted Thaksin's so called populist programmes hook, line and sinker - indeed enhanced them.

As for the economic impact of these policies it is absurd to suggest they are ruinous to the country.The numbers simply don't support this.

Irrespective of the state of the economy, should Thailand be a democracy or not?

The argument re the economy is a distraction. There is more to running the country than getting a particular set of stats to line up.

Forced reconciliation will not make Thailand peaceful and tranquil. Perhaps somebody more experienced and less biased than the government and TV posters, has a weather eye on the future. Doesn't sound much like Thailand.

[OzMick]

Perhaps it is because he refuses to offer populist vote-buying policies that would prove ruinous to the country. Of course you have to be some sort of fascist to suggest that government should be responsible as well as popular, or that there is more to democracy than who gets the most votes.

That would be a somewhat more compelling argument if Abhisit and his government had not adopted Thaksin's so called populist programmes hook, line and sinker - indeed enhanced them.

As for the economic impact of these policies it is absurd to suggest they are ruinous to the country.The numbers simply don't support this.

Your 1st statement is a lie.

Your 2nd statement refers to a matter you have refused to discuss. But now, with rice scam losses approaching 1 trillion baht with little or no economic gain, you can explain why thailand needs to borrow B2.2 trillion for infrastructure development (says Yingluk).

You might also choose to comment on responsible government, and the other facets of democracy beyond populism.

Edited July 25, 2013 by OzMick

[jayboy]

Perhaps it is because he refuses to offer populist vote-buying policies that would prove ruinous to the country. Of course you have to be some sort of fascist to suggest that government should be responsible as well as popular, or that there is more to democracy than who gets the most votes.

That would be a somewhat more compelling argument if Abhisit and his government had not adopted Thaksin's so called populist programmes hook, line and sinker - indeed enhanced them.

As for the economic impact of these policies it is absurd to suggest they are ruinous to the country.The numbers simply don't support this.

Your 1st statement is a lie.

Your 2nd statement refers to a matter you have refused to discuss. But now, with rice scam losses approaching 1 trillion baht with little or no economic gain, you can explain why thailand needs to borrow B2.2 trillion for infrastructure development (says Yingluk).

You might also choose to comment on responsible government, and the other facets of democracy beyond populism.

Abhisit and the Democrats' populist programme on which they fought the last election was modelled on that pioneered by Thaksin and this is a matter of record.Please do not attempt to reinvent history and please do not call other forum members liars.If you disagree present your evidence and a discussion can be had.

The rice subsidy pledge is certainly flawed but it has a political objective which has to be taken into account.It is foolish to call it a scam though no doubt there are incidental elements of corruption which schemes of this sort are prone to.

The infrastructure development programme is both imaginative and necessary and has wide cross party support.I specifically recall Korn's endorsement.The controversy relates to how it should be financed and unfortunately this has been caught up in the attempts of extreme right wingers to mobilise the courts for political purposes.On the basis of the numbers I have seen the programme is doable through a mixture of self financing and additional borrowings.

[peterb0576]

Military should be left alone to run its own affaris ,look at other nations UK,US where lying politician get young soldier killed for there own political gain on the world stage, if left to the military we would never had done Iraq 2 would of completed the task on The first 1 but good old politics got involve.In the south The military could sort very quickly but no to much politics,will become like Northern Ireland go on for 30 years,a lot of dead bodies,but if it had been left to the military would have been over much quicker. The Military are loyal to The King and Country and must stay that way,As we should have been to HM The Queen

[Noistar]

Military should be left alone to run its own affaris ,look at other nations UK,US where lying politician get young soldier killed for there own political gain on the world stage, if left to the military we would never had done Iraq 2 would of completed the task on The first 1 but good old politics got involve.In the south The military could sort very quickly but no to much politics,will become like Northern Ireland go on for 30 years,a lot of dead bodies,but if it had been left to the military would have been over much quicker. The Military are loyal to The King and Country and must stay that way,As we should have been to HM The Queen

So logically the UK and US wouldn't have got involved in WW2 because the countries weren't directly threatened.

The military are there to serve the country, but also have an obligation to the head of state to ensure that there remains a country to serve.

Stop comparing Thailand to the first world. A military coup in Thailand just means stopping the naughty boys and girls from going too far. Nothing more, nothing less

[Noistar]

Perhaps it is because he refuses to offer populist vote-buying policies that would prove ruinous to the country. Of course you have to be some sort of fascist to suggest that government should be responsible as well as popular, or that there is more to democracy than who gets the most votes.

That would be a somewhat more compelling argument if Abhisit and his government had not adopted Thaksin's so called populist programmes hook, line and sinker - indeed enhanced them.

As for the economic impact of these policies it is absurd to suggest they are ruinous to the country.The numbers simply don't support this.

Your 1st statement is a lie.

Your 2nd statement refers to a matter you have refused to discuss. But now, with rice scam losses approaching 1 trillion baht with little or no economic gain, you can explain why thailand needs to borrow B2.2 trillion for infrastructure development (says Yingluk).

You might also choose to comment on responsible government, and the other facets of democracy beyond populism.

Abhisit and the Democrats' populist programme on which they fought the last election was modelled on that pioneered by Thaksin and this is a matter of record.Please do not attempt to reinvent history and please do not call other forum members liars.If you disagree present your evidence and a discussion can be had.

The rice subsidy pledge is certainly flawed but it has a political objective which has to be taken into account.It is foolish to call it a scam though no doubt there are incidental elements of corruption which schemes of this sort are prone to.

The infrastructure development programme is both imaginative and necessary and has wide cross party support.I specifically recall Korn's endorsement.The controversy relates to how it should be financed and unfortunately this has been caught up in the attempts of extreme right wingers to mobilise the courts for political purposes.On the basis of the numbers I have seen the programme is doable through a mixture of self financing and additional borrowings.

Could you clarify 'extreme right wingers'?

Does the term relate to anyone in Opposition to the PTP?

Does 'wide cross party support' include the Opposition parties?

Seeing the PTP version of Democracy in action, I would doubt that the Opposition have even been made aware of the details of Government proposals.

Humblest opinion

[cobbler]

"So lets have another coup to get rid of this lot"

Why does "Mark" need the army to get him elected if he is so good for the country? There will be another election in the not so distant future, everyone who can vote will be able to vote for THEIR government, will they choose your beloved Mark? I doubt it.

Perhaps it is because he refuses to offer populist vote-buying policies that would prove ruinous to the country. Of course you have to be some sort of fascist to suggest that government should be responsible as well as popular, or that there is more to democracy than who gets the most votes.

That would be a somewhat more compelling argument if Abhisit and his government had not adopted Thaksin's so called populist programmes hook, line and sinker - indeed enhanced them.

As for the economic impact of these policies it is absurd to suggest they are ruinous to the country.The numbers simply don't support this.

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Oh so do u think an election is th same as your country.Well HELLO its as simple as whoever throws the most amount of money at voters on election day wins.Cash that is.I think u r not aware of this.

As for army,they suport th king.What do redshirts suport.Answer .A gov who pays them 500 bart per day to stay in the city and cripple a country.How else can poor people afford not to work for so long.It was a paid vacation.I wont go on.

[DiNiro]

Paid to vote.

The excuse sore losers use every time.

That's why the Army & Suthep forbid international election observers.

The economy is booming up country.

That's why they like Thaksin.

The economy stupid.

[DiNiro]

"So lets have another coup to get rid of this lot"

Why does "Mark" need the army to get him elected if he is so good for the country? There will be another election in the not so distant future, everyone who can vote will be able to vote for THEIR government, will they choose your beloved Mark? I doubt it.

Perhaps it is because he refuses to offer populist vote-buying policies that would prove ruinous to the country. Of course you have to be some sort of fascist to suggest that government should be responsible as well as popular, or that there is more to democracy than who gets the most votes.

That would be a somewhat more compelling argument if Abhisit and his government had not adopted Thaksin's so called populist programmes hook, line and sinker - indeed enhanced them.

As for the economic impact of these policies it is absurd to suggest they are ruinous to the country.The numbers simply don't support this.

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Oh so do u think an election is th same as your country.Well HELLO its as simple as whoever throws the most amount of money at voters on election day wins.Cash that is.I think u r not aware of this.

As for army,they suport th king.What do redshirts suport.Answer .A gov who pays them 500 bart per day to stay in the city and cripple a country.How else can poor people afford not to work for so long.It was a paid vacation.I wont go on.

There is a great divide in opinion here.

I can always tell those the read The Nation(and believe it) and those that have read the censored/banned news.

[Noistar]

Paid to vote.

The excuse sore losers use every time.

That's why the Army & Suthep forbid international election observers.

The economy is booming up country.

That's why they like Thaksin.

The economy stupid.

Tell that to the people on the ground in CM - the little people. Families going out of business, market stalls not bothering to open due to lack of visitors (locals), let alone customers. Empty market car parks etc....

The one thing the government can depend on, IMO, is that the people here don't equate the economy with government policies.

[OzMick]

Perhaps it is because he refuses to offer populist vote-buying policies that would prove ruinous to the country. Of course you have to be some sort of fascist to suggest that government should be responsible as well as popular, or that there is more to democracy than who gets the most votes.

That would be a somewhat more compelling argument if Abhisit and his government had not adopted Thaksin's so called populist programmes hook, line and sinker - indeed enhanced them.

As for the economic impact of these policies it is absurd to suggest they are ruinous to the country.The numbers simply don't support this.

Your 1st statement is a lie.

Your 2nd statement refers to a matter you have refused to discuss. But now, with rice scam losses approaching 1 trillion baht with little or no economic gain, you can explain why thailand needs to borrow B2.2 trillion for infrastructure development (says Yingluk).

You might also choose to comment on responsible government, and the other facets of democracy beyond populism.

Abhisit and the Democrats' populist programme on which they fought the last election was modelled on that pioneered by Thaksin and this is a matter of record.Please do not attempt to reinvent history and please do not call other forum members liars.If you disagree present your evidence and a discussion can be had.

The rice subsidy pledge is certainly flawed but it has a political objective which has to be taken into account.It is foolish to call it a scam though no doubt there are incidental elements of corruption which schemes of this sort are prone to.

The infrastructure development programme is both imaginative and necessary and has wide cross party support.I specifically recall Korn's endorsement.The controversy relates to how it should be financed and unfortunately this has been caught up in the attempts of extreme right wingers to mobilise the courts for political purposes.On the basis of the numbers I have seen the programme is doable through a mixture of self financing and additional borrowings.

Perhaps you can show us Democrat policy to match Yingluk's off-the-cuff remark which elevated the rice subsidy to B20,000/t. Until then H,L&S = BS.

The political objective of the rice scam was to get elected by vote-buying with other people's money. The STATED objective was to raise the income of poor rice farmers, many of whom RENT their land. As there was no rent freeze attached, that small part that reached farmers has been savagely reduced by ~doubled rents, and some of the biggest landowners are PTP MPs, cabinet members and their families. They have derived direct benefit from a hugely expensive policy that has failed in its objectives other than vote-buying, and which continues despite mounting losses. THAT is a scam. When 10% of government expenditure is being wasted, that is certainly causing damage to the country - expect it to continue in the next budget.

The benefits from expensive HSR are certainly imaginary, a completely unnecessary waste with no benefit for the majority of Thais. But even if it was a well planned expenditure, how do you justify spending a trillion on a policy with almost no benefit and then borrowing 2.2 trillion with a 50 year payback for it? that is economic stupidity.

Please stop placing anybody that disagrees with you in pejorative little boxes.

[Scott]

Posts with messed up quotes have been deleted. I also note that there are posts which are getting pretty close to breaking forum rules. I suggest you post in a civil manner.

Edit: Now a post with messed up quotes has been deleted.

[Noistar]

name="PREM-R" post="6646951" timestamp="1374721733"]

"So lets have another coup to get rid of this lot"

Why does "Mark" need the army to get him elected if he is so good for the country? There will be another election in the not so distant future, everyone who can vote will be able to vote for THEIR government, will they choose your beloved Mark? I doubt it.

The point of previous coups was to get governments, he'll bent on destroying Thailand OUT. Not to get the Opposition IN.

If PTP were to act like sensible boys and girls, even while flouting parliamentary democracy, then there'd be little argument other than a difference of policies.

But while PTP are acting like out of control school kids, they leave themselves open to requiring a steadying hand.

What was the result of the last coup? Democratic elections which got PTP elected.

You shouldn't have much complaint about that

[Noistar]

name="PREM-R" post="6646951" timestamp="1374721733"]

"So lets have another coup to get rid of this lot"

Why does "Mark" need the army to get him elected if he is so good for the country? There will be another election in the not so distant future, everyone who can vote will be able to vote for THEIR government, will they choose your beloved Mark? I doubt it.

The point of previous coups was to get governments, he'll bent on destroying Thailand OUT. Not to get the Opposition IN.

If PTP were to act like sensible boys and girls, even while flouting parliamentary democracy, then there'd be little argument other than a difference of policies.

But while PTP are acting like out of control school kids, they leave themselves open to requiring a steadying hand.

What was the result of the last coup? Democratic elections which got PTP elected.

You shouldn't have much complaint about that

[Noistar]

"So lets have another coup to get rid of this lot"

Why does "Mark" need the army to get him elected if he is so good for the country? There will be another election in the not so distant future, everyone who can vote will be able to vote for THEIR government, will they choose your beloved Mark? I doubt it.

The point of previous coups was to get governments, he'll bent on destroying Thailand OUT. Not to get the Opposition IN.

If PTP were to act like sensible boys and girls, even while flouting parliamentary democracy, then there'd be little argument other than a difference of policies.

But while PTP are acting like out of control school kids, they leave themselves open to requiring a steadying hand.

What was the result of the last coup? Democratic elections which got PTP elected.

You shouldn't have much complaint about that

[jayboy]

"So lets have another coup to get rid of this lot"

Why does "Mark" need the army to get him elected if he is so good for the country? There will be another election in the not so distant future, everyone who can vote will be able to vote for THEIR government, will they choose your beloved Mark? I doubt it.

The point of previous coups was to get governments, he'll bent on destroying Thailand OUT. Not to get the Opposition IN.

If PTP were to act like sensible boys and girls, even while flouting parliamentary democracy, then there'd be little argument other than a difference of policies.

But while PTP are acting like out of control school kids, they leave themselves open to requiring a steadying hand.

What was the result of the last coup? Democratic elections which got PTP elected.

You shouldn't have much complaint about that

Er so what is the point? Why have a coup if the Thai people simply re- elect the deposed government or one almost identical to it.A coup only makes sense if the coup makers can enforce policies to their liking.After the last coup an attempt was made with the rigged military backed constitution but with only mixed results.The only effective way to enforce policies would be to end parliamentary democracy altogether.

So what have these coup makers achieved?They have managed to damage and tarnish the institutions they profess to hold dear.Stupid muppets.

[Thai at Heart]

Paid to vote.

The excuse sore losers use every time.

That's why the Army & Suthep forbid international election observers.

The economy is booming up country.

That's why they like Thaksin.

The economy stupid.

don't worry, in the other paper, they are reporting that Aeronatical Radio of Thailand in conjunction with the Election commission have developed their own in house ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES.

No doubt guaranteed to provide a faultess result everytime. Presumably going through the same extensive testing as the GT 2000.

i mean honestly, would anyone trust a Thai made, and manufactured electronic voting booth? They even import ATM's here don't they?

[Noistar]

"So lets have another coup to get rid of this lot"

Why does "Mark" need the army to get him elected if he is so good for the country? There will be another election in the not so distant future, everyone who can vote will be able to vote for THEIR government, will they choose your beloved Mark? I doubt it.

The point of previous coups was to get governments, he'll bent on destroying Thailand OUT. Not to get the Opposition IN.

If PTP were to act like sensible boys and girls, even while flouting parliamentary democracy, then there'd be little argument other than a difference of policies.

But while PTP are acting like out of control school kids, they leave themselves open to requiring a steadying hand.

What was the result of the last coup? Democratic elections which got PTP elected.

You shouldn't have much complaint about that

Er so what is the point? Why have a coup if the Thai people simply re- elect the deposed government or one almost identical to it.A coup only makes sense if the coup makers can enforce policies to their liking.After the last coup an attempt was made with the rigged military backed constitution but with only mixed results.The only effective way to enforce policies would be to end parliamentary democracy altogether.

So what have these coup makers achieved?They have managed to damage and tarnish the institutions they profess to hold dear.Stupid muppets.

My point was simple. A government that goes off the rails is stopped. The people vote for a new government presumably in hope of a better future. Then the new government continues with the same policies.

2 choices - take up the general apathy which appears to characterize Thailand, or continue to try to give governments the chance to act like grown ups?

Are you in favour of out-of-control governments?

[jayboy]

"So lets have another coup to get rid of this lot"

Why does "Mark" need the army to get him elected if he is so good for the country? There will be another election in the not so distant future, everyone who can vote will be able to vote for THEIR government, will they choose your beloved Mark? I doubt it.

The point of previous coups was to get governments, he'll bent on destroying Thailand OUT. Not to get the Opposition IN.

If PTP were to act like sensible boys and girls, even while flouting parliamentary democracy, then there'd be little argument other than a difference of policies.

But while PTP are acting like out of control school kids, they leave themselves open to requiring a steadying hand.

What was the result of the last coup? Democratic elections which got PTP elected.

You shouldn't have much complaint about that

Er so what is the point? Why have a coup if the Thai people simply re- elect the deposed government or one almost identical to it.A coup only makes sense if the coup makers can enforce policies to their liking.After the last coup an attempt was made with the rigged military backed constitution but with only mixed results.The only effective way to enforce policies would be to end parliamentary democracy altogether.

So what have these coup makers achieved?They have managed to damage and tarnish the institutions they profess to hold dear.Stupid muppets.

My point was simple. A government that goes off the rails is stopped. The people vote for a new government presumably in hope of a better future. Then the new government continues with the same policies.

2 choices - take up the general apathy which appears to characterize Thailand, or continue to try to give governments the chance to act like grown ups?

Are you in favour of out-of-control governments?

No idea what you are talking about with your half baked ideas about army interventions and bizarre references to "out of control" governments.Take it up with someone else please.

[DiNiro]

Who has decided the Government is off the rails?

You read The Nation I presume.

[Noistar]

And there our opinions will have to differ

[cobbler]

And there our opinions will have to differ

please dont kick this gov out.I want to see how many billions this gov can borrow from imf put most of it in there own pockets then ask thai people to pay it all back.Bahhhhhha hahaha.Nope no corruption going on here.bahhhhhha haha o please .It gets better.We have rice farming friends in Sukhothai area.Red shirt people.Put there rice crop into gov storage wih promiss of better price than private buyer.That was 4 months ago.Money was borrowed from imf to pay them.None of them have been paid.Hmmm wonder wat happened to that money.Bahhhha haha.15billion bart borrowed from imf to oay for the promissed 100 bart per kilo for rubber..Not 1 rubber farmer we know got it.Bahhhha haha. Nope no corruption here.Keep this gov in power hohohaha.I wont continue as I need to do other things.Some will open there eyes and some will not.Simple

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[Thai at Heart]

And there our opinions will have to differ

please dont kick this gov out.I want to see how many billions this gov can borrow from imf put most of it in there own pockets then ask thai people to pay it all back.Bahhhhhha hahaha.Nope no corruption going on here.bahhhhhha haha o please .It gets better.We have rice farming friends in Sukhothai area.Red shirt people.Put there rice crop into gov storage wih promiss of better price than private buyer.That was 4 months ago.Money was borrowed from imf to pay them.None of them have been paid.Hmmm wonder wat happened to that money.Bahhhha haha.15billion bart borrowed from imf to oay for the promissed 100 bart per kilo for rubber..Not 1 rubber farmer we know got it.Bahhhha haha. Nope no corruption here.Keep this gov in power hohohaha.I wont continue as I need to do other things.Some will open there eyes and some will not.Simple

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I think you sat in the sun a little too long with Suthep! IMF? <deleted>?

A bunch of old cobblers, to put it politely.

[cobbler]

Paid to vote.

The excuse sore losers use every time.

That's why the Army & Suthep forbid international election observers.

The economy is booming up country.

That's why they like Thaksin.

The economy stupid.

don't worry, in the other paper, they are reporting that Aeronatical Radio of Thailand in conjunction with the Election commission have developed their own in house ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES.

No doubt guaranteed to provide a faultess result everytime. Presumably going through the same extensive testing as the GT 2000.

i mean honestly, would anyone trust a Thai made, and manufactured electronic voting booth? They even import ATM's here don't they?

ecconomy booming hahaha.what area is this.How is thaksin doing this?Is he giving the money himself to issan farmers? Hmmm or is it an area that has many farang feeding the economy.Booming eh.hmm I suppose this is why most of them drive dakdaks .bahhhhhha haha. Dakdakdakdak

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[Thai at Heart]

Paid to vote.

The excuse sore losers use every time.

That's why the Army & Suthep forbid international election observers.

The economy is booming up country.

That's why they like Thaksin.

The economy stupid.

don't worry, in the other paper, they are reporting that Aeronatical Radio of Thailand in conjunction with the Election commission have developed their own in house ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES.

No doubt guaranteed to provide a faultess result everytime. Presumably going through the same extensive testing as the GT 2000.

i mean honestly, would anyone trust a Thai made, and manufactured electronic voting booth? They even import ATM's here don't they?

ecconomy booming hahaha.what area is this.How is thaksin doing this?Is he giving the money himself to issan farmers? Hmmm or is it an area that has many farang feeding the economy.Booming eh.hmm I suppose this is why most of them drive dakdaks .bahhhhhha haha. Dakdakdakdak

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What on earth are you going on about?

I lived and worked in Isaan for 18 years, and yes, it is completely unrecognisable in some places from when I first went there. They could keep pumping money in there for 50 years and it still wouldn't get to the level of Bangkok.

[cobbler]

And there our opinions will have to differ

please dont kick this gov out.I want to see how many billions this gov can borrow from imf put most of it in there own pockets then ask thai people to pay it all back.Bahhhhhha hahaha.Nope no corruption going on here.bahhhhhha haha o please .It gets better.We have rice farming friends in Sukhothai area.Red shirt people.Put there rice crop into gov storage wih promiss of better price than private buyer.That was 4 months ago.Money was borrowed from imf to pay them.None of them have been paid.Hmmm wonder wat happened to that money.Bahhhha haha.15billion bart borrowed from imf to oay for the promissed 100 bart per kilo for rubber..Not 1 rubber farmer we know got it.Bahhhha haha. Nope no corruption here.Keep this gov in power hohohaha.I wont continue as I need to do other things.Some will open there eyes and some will not.Simple

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I think you sat in the sun a little too long with Suthep! IMF? <deleted>?

A bunch of old cobblers, to put it politely.

you obviously never watched the thai news for the last 3 years..Mate just look at the news.Really I dont give a shit who is in power.I just feel sorry for thais.Including redshirts being conned and lied to.They just live in a dream that is continued to be promissed to them but never happens.When this gov is out ,thais will have to pay back to imf.Nit the people who put the billions in there pocket.Probably good you dont watch the news.hmmmm so sad for average thais.

As for being paid to vote both sides do that so thats nothing new.

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Edited March 5, 2014 by cobbler