Beating Your Children With A Stick.....

[Rust Never Sleeps]

When an adult strikes a child, the adult has lost control of the situation.

[pattayadingo]

Many of us got a good caning at school.

The local policeman often gave people a cuff around the ear.

If you got into trouble and then told your parents you got it again.

That does not mean we turned into bullies, wife / children beaters. Nor that we suffered irrepairable damage either.

It was part of life.

As a general rule there was discipline in life.

Unlike now......

IMHO.

I'll add that I slapped my son twice across the top of the legs. Never had to do it again but he grew up to be a reasonably well adjusted man.

[theblether]

Whether I agree with the fathers actions or not is irrelevant, I wasnt there so dont know what led to this course of action.

What I do agree with is the father having the choice in how he chooses to discipline his children, without outside interference from, bleeding hearts liberals, do gooders, busybodies, or the PC thoroughly modern parents.

Its easy to knock Thailand and the Thais, but this is one of the reasons I cherish living here, no facist central government or farang cultural imperialists dictating to the Thais how they raise their children.

So you were quite happy about the discipline handed out to Baby P?

Were we to wait until he was dead before saying, " Steady on old chap". Thank God for.........

bleeding hearts liberals, do gooders, busybodies, or the PC thoroughly modern parents.

Better that than letting these psychos beat children to death. That's why our society steps in now, to prevent these psychos from taking it too far.

[theblether]

It is a fine line. If I saw a parent disciplining their child in a reasonable fashion, I would keep my mouth closed. If I saw a child being severely beaten nearly to the point of torture, I would of course step in to stop it. Purely a judgement call

Hmm very dangerous talk. I did notice the Bleater liked your post though?

jb1

First of all, it's theblether

Secondly, there is a point, even today, when I would say enough is enough. I need to sleep with my conscience, and if I saw a child being beaten to the point of torture here in Thailand, you better believe I'd be in there.

You're indicating here that you would watch it and not intervene, what does that say about you?

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[transam]

There is a line between a parent trying to sort a kid out (me as a kid) and someone using violence to just deal out violence on kids to feel a tough guy. They are out there.

[899cc]

Spare the rod and spoil the child...

[rgs2001uk]

Whether I agree with the fathers actions or not is irrelevant, I wasnt there so dont know what led to this course of action.

What I do agree with is the father having the choice in how he chooses to discipline his children, without outside interference from, bleeding hearts liberals, do gooders, busybodies, or the PC thoroughly modern parents.

Its easy to knock Thailand and the Thais, but this is one of the reasons I cherish living here, no facist central government or farang cultural imperialists dictating to the Thais how they raise their children.

So you were quite happy about the discipline handed out to Baby P?

Were we to wait until he was dead before saying, " Steady on old chap". Thank God for.........

bleeding hearts liberals, do gooders, busybodies, or the PC thoroughly modern parents.

Better that than letting these psychos beat children to death. That's why our society steps in now, to prevent these psychos from taking it too far.

So you were quite happy about the discipline handed out to Baby P?

Bit of a difference there old chap, that was child abuse, and before you ask, the answer is yes, I would happily have strung those bast***s up and not lose a moments sleep for doing so.

[harrry]

Maybe that is why a few foreign teenagers got a very very big shock when they were caught grafitiing a train in Singapore. Big surprise to them.

[theblether]

Whether I agree with the fathers actions or not is irrelevant, I wasnt there so dont know what led to this course of action.

What I do agree with is the father having the choice in how he chooses to discipline his children, without outside interference from, bleeding hearts liberals, do gooders, busybodies, or the PC thoroughly modern parents.

Its easy to knock Thailand and the Thais, but this is one of the reasons I cherish living here, no facist central government or farang cultural imperialists dictating to the Thais how they raise their children.

So you were quite happy about the discipline handed out to Baby P?

Were we to wait until he was dead before saying, " Steady on old chap". Thank God for.........

bleeding hearts liberals, do gooders, busybodies, or the PC thoroughly modern parents.

Better that than letting these psychos beat children to death. That's why our society steps in now, to prevent these psychos from taking it too far.

So you were quite happy about the discipline handed out to Baby P?

Bit of a difference there old chap, that was child abuse, and before you ask, the answer is yes, I would happily have strung those bast***s up and not lose a moments sleep for doing so.

I knew that already because I know you are the kind of man that wouldn't stand for that. I went to the extreme to make a point, we can't let people do what they want. They have to know there's a line over which society will not let them step.

[transam]

1961, school was assembled, , Master ................. come forward. You will receive 6 strokes of the cane, .

His crime. Broke into the tuck shop and was caught consuming all the chocolate.

[evadgib]

When parental discipline at home and corporal punishment in schools were abolished/outlawed in UK cira 1980 a generation emerged that frankly had no respect for authority or any sense of urgency/responsibility. Prior to widespread use of the pill the average size of a family was 3-5 kids over a period of say 15 years. IME kids born in the late 50's or early to mid 60's went on to do reasonably well, but any siblings from 1967-70 onwards in the same families seemed to fail miserably as adults because they hadn't been chastised in childhood.

"Spare the rod...."

[stoneyboy]

My old mans weapon of choice back in the day,is it or was it right,I'm not sure to this day,has it or did it cause me any long term or temporary problems I don't think so,it was accepted back then.

I don't condone it neither do i object to some form of punishment,a slap across the arse never hurt no one,but out and out brutality with a hard wooden object seems slightly OTT.

[Mossfinn]

Spare the rod and spoil the child...

Outdated, archaic and just plain wrong.

[transam]

Must say my dad never ever bashed me, mum did.

[NanLaew]

Apart from the locals thrashing their kids in public, how are things in Udon Thani these days?

[Mossfinn]

If I am a modern or p.c liberal parent so be it. I will live with that criticism. My child has just turned six and has never had any form of violence inflicted upon him. We use a more constructive method, risk and reward, love, empathy, attention, education and an attempt at using no negativity, but constructive development. As the man said who jumped from a 20 story building as he passed each level, so far so good.

[theblether]

Apart from the locals thrashing their kids in public, how are things in Udon Thani these days?

Pouring with rain, I want to go out but I'll need to wait. I've got a VIP bus booked for the Ubon Ratchathani Candle Festival. I've been invited to have dinner with the Mayor of Ubon on Monday so I've got my glad rags packed and ready to go. I'm looking forward to that.

[farang000999]

Every generation is supposedly worse than the previous generation, according to the previous generation.

[fabianfred]

In Thailand the saying goes... If you love your buffalo tie it up... If you love your child beat it....

We got caned on the palm in school... Dad used a cricket bat... In junior school I got the ruler across the back of the calfs.. They say it's dangerous to hit the backside in case of spinal damage.

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[theblether]

If I am a modern or p.c liberal parent so be it. I will live with that criticism. My child has just turned six and has never had any form of violence inflicted upon him. We use a more constructive method, risk and reward, love, empathy, attention, education and an attempt at using no negativity, but constructive development. As the man said who jumped from a 20 story building as he passed each level, so far so good.

I had three children, I spanked my oldest daughter four times, my son three times, my youngest once. I can't remember why I spanked my youngest but I remember saying to myself afterwards that wasn't necessary. I regret that.

I don't regret any of the times I spanked the other two. They were all times when they wouldn't listen to a warning about a safety issue. The worst was when the local devil child persuaded my 4 year old it was a good idea to go to the railway track. He was seen, brought back, and when I came in from work, you would have been proud of me. I sat there and very reasonably explained to him about the dangers, that he could be killed, trying to explain the concept of death to a 4 year old. When I was finished, he soured his face and said " I'll do what I want ".

So I spanked him. He never went back to the railway track, and I didn't have to put a hand on him for the next 7 years. I detested hitting my kids, but equally there's a point you have to give a short sharp shock.

Watching that wee one today lining up to get hit with a cane on the thigh, that's part of her life. That's out of order.

[Mossfinn]

It's going to be busy B, just sent the daughter back from Rayong, no spaces left, some people standing, that's a long 12 hour ride.

[farang000999]

Get over it..this is Thailand.

Children are swatted with a piece of bamboo on a regular basis in schools here. I've seen it hundreds of times.

Every class room has a "teacher's stick" ready for use when needed.

I've never seen any physical damage done, but I have seen it bring wild children under control.

Like you, I was shocked the first time I saw it happen, but now I see it as a good thing.

Things would be better in my country ( USA ) if children actually had a reason to follow the rules, be respectful and behave themselves.

Have you ever noticed how respectful and well behaved Thai students are?

i AM SURE THE SAME PRACTICE WORKS WELL AT HOME TOO!

Yeah I always think how well behaved Thai students are when they get involved in knife fights with rival students or shoot up and throw homemade bombs at them.

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[theblether]

It's going to be busy B, just sent the daughter back from Rayong, no spaces left, some people standing, that's a long 12 hour ride.

Udon Thani to Ubon Ratchathani 12 hours? They told me 6 VIP service mind.

The lack of flight service in Isaan is atrocious. I was actually toying with flying to DM then flying back to Ubon. I decided to go with bus so I could see some of the country. Gawd no.

[farang000999]

It's going to be busy B, just sent the daughter back from Rayong, no spaces left, some people standing, that's a long 12 hour ride.

Udon Thani to Ubon Ratchathani 12 hours? They told me 6 VIP service mind.

The lack of flight service in Isaan is atrocious. I was actually toying with flying to DM then flying back to Ubon. I decided to go with bus so I could see some of the country. Gawd no.

rent a car. will be much more fun than a bus

[transam]

It's going to be busy B, just sent the daughter back from Rayong, no spaces left, some people standing, that's a long 12 hour ride.

Udon Thani to Ubon Ratchathani 12 hours? They told me 6 VIP service mind.

The lack of flight service in Isaan is atrocious. I was actually toying with flying to DM then flying back to Ubon. I decided to go with bus so I could see some of the country. Gawd no.

The VIP has BiB escort .

[Mossfinn]

I could argue what was a 4 yo doing out of sight, but I have had my fair share of safety issues, mainly in regard to roads, but we still educate, inform, communicate and negotiate. I don't think there is any completely right way, just the right way for the individual, excepting of course those that should never be allowed to procreate in the first place, but that discussion is for another place altogether.

[Mossfinn]

UT to UB is 6 hours, but Raging to UR is 12

[rwdrwdrwd]

Have you ever noticed how respectful and well behaved Thai students are?

i AM SURE THE SAME PRACTICE WORKS WELL AT HOME TOO!

Beating any non-confirmist attitude out of them early in life (and teaching by rote), might lead to an army of well behaved clones, however well behaved clones don't tend to get very far in life in my experience.

[rwdrwdrwd]

Have you ever noticed how respectful and well behaved Thai students are?

i AM SURE THE SAME PRACTICE WORKS WELL AT HOME TOO!

Beating any non-confirmist attitude out of them early in life (and teaching by rote), might lead to an army of well behaved clones, however well behaved clones don't tend to get very far in life in my experience.

[rwdrwdrwd]

Have you ever noticed how respectful and well behaved Thai students are?

i AM SURE THE SAME PRACTICE WORKS WELL AT HOME TOO!

Beating any non-confirmist attitude out of them early in life (and teaching by rote), might lead to an army of well behaved clones, however well behaved clones don't tend to get very far in life in my experience.