'Coup rumours baseless'

[ginjag]

After 25 years here when I hear the words " rumours of a coup are baseless and or unfounded" its time to stock up on fags n beer.

Outside of the UK and its dwindling colonies, 'fag' means; a homosexual. How do you define 'stock up' ?

light up a fag- smoke a fag- lightup a tab end give me a drag, I have a docker only - to give,crash the ash-. fags,coffin nails.

On topic--traffic very heavy out of Issan, army barracks empty, police no leave allowed, tank excersise in BKK, because a government want to pardon criminals.

Edited August 4, 2013 by ginjag

[Dap]

Abisit making a speech now.

Why does he need 5 minders flanking him whenever he makes a speech?

Facetime

[Commander Tamson]

I'm off to get a couple of weeks supply of the cold stuff, just incase some loony forbids the sale of alcohol during the party.

Bloody good idea mate!

[dcutman]

'Coup rumours baseless'

Is this good news or bad?

[harrry]

message has been sent now reinforced.....we wait to see if it was acted on.

[tingtongfarang]

'Coup rumours baseless'

Is this good news or bad?

They were just trying to get out hopes up. maybe a dry run for the very near future

[dcutman]

'Coup rumours baseless'

Is this good news or bad?

They were just trying to get out hopes up. maybe a dry run for the very near future

History seems to always repeat, and well over due in LOS. My hopes are still up.

[MaiChai]

Roll on the coup. Fed up with this Taksin corrupt government. Thailand has really gone down hill since this farce of a government has come into power.

[livinthailandos]

Not sure its me but 3 things are going on right now and id say a coup is possible due to

1.someone is not going to be in bangkok

2. Army general is moving tanks around in bangkok

3. A vote happening within the next few days for amentsy that would clear thaksin of his crimes.

All a bit to convient to be happening at around the same time

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[klubex99]

I have been doing a little digging around and found this....

Armed forces chief says coup d'etat 'only a rumour'

BANGKOK: -- Thailand's armed forces chief on Friday dismissed rumours that the Royal Thai Army has planned a coup d'etat against the government, saying that such an act would not benefit the nation.

Thai Armed Forces Supreme Commander Gen. Ruengroj Mahasaranond said the rumours regarding a military coup which have spread since early this year were groundless, entirely unsubstantiated, and that the media reporting on them has been misled by some ordinary military exercises that gave them the wrong idea.

These are the words of the then military just before the last coup in 2006 as reported right here on TV news section Source http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/76472-armed-forces-chief-says-coup-detat-only-a-rumour/

No smoke without fire?

Yingluck moves her family out of the country and The Royal Family moved down to Hua Hin?

Then you have the controversial amnesty bill this week which I think everyone with a glimmer of intelligence will agree is totally bizarre considering Thaksin will never set foot in this country again, I think he would be safer gatecrashing a taliban wedding party than coming back to Thailand where he will have to spend the rest of his days with a big target on his forehead, just waiting for the time his security slips up. Or at best, sit there waiting for the next coup where chances are he will be the first to get arrested, and thrown in the hole.

I think it is indeed prudent advice to stock up on beer, and plenty of popcorn.

Edited August 4, 2013 by klubex99

[JetsetBkk]

No coup? Are you sure?

[Phatcharanan]

I have been doing a little digging around and found this....

Armed forces chief says coup d'etat 'only a rumour'

BANGKOK: -- Thailand's armed forces chief on Friday dismissed rumours that the Royal Thai Army has planned a coup d'etat against the government, saying that such an act would not benefit the nation.

Thai Armed Forces Supreme Commander Gen. Ruengroj Mahasaranond said the rumours regarding a military coup which have spread since early this year were groundless, entirely unsubstantiated, and that the media reporting on them has been misled by some ordinary military exercises that gave them the wrong idea.

These are the words of the then military just before the last coup in 2006 as reported right here on TV news section Source http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/76472-armed-forces-chief-says-coup-detat-only-a-rumour/

No smoke without fire?

Yingluck moves her family out of the country and The Royal Family moved down to Hua Hin?

Then you have the controversial amnesty bill this week which I think everyone with a glimmer of intelligence will agree is totally bizarre considering Thaksin will never set foot in this country again, I think he would be safer gatecrashing a taliban wedding party than coming back to Thailand where he will have to spend the rest of his days with a big target on his forehead, just waiting for the time his security slips up. Or at best, sit there waiting for the next coup where chances are he will be the first to get arrested, and thrown in the hole.

I think it is indeed prudent advice to stock up on beer, and plenty of popcorn.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[webfact]

UPDATE:
No coup, Army insists, despite rising tension
The Nation



Movement of tanks 'just routine', people seeking to confuse public, spokesman says, as rally starts

BANGKOK: -- The army yesterday dismissed the possibility of a military coup amid the escalating political tension. "This unfounded theory was just the personal imagination of some people who are out to confuse the public," deputy Army spokesman Colonel Winthai Suwaree said.

Many reports circulating in social media have no basis in fact and falsely link the Army with politics. People should not be overly sensitive and should exercise good judgement in what information they take in, he said.

The Army and its chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha have been busy assisting flood victims across the country and organising celebrations for Her Majesty the Queen's birthday.

The public should not to be alarmed about any cross-country movements of Army equipment that usually take place at this time of year.

The atmosphere at the anti-government rally in Lumpini Park by the 'People's Army to Overthrow the Thaksin Regime' grew more excited. Organisers put up a large temporary stage in front of the King Rama VI Monument with a message "Time to destroy the country is up. Tyrants must leave". Speakers took turns onstage to attack the government.

The movement's leaders said the rally would remove the Yingluck government from power within seven days. Vendors set up street stalls to sell white masks and T-shirts emblazoned with anti-government messages.

Security was stepped up at Government House with barbed wire and security officials at every gate.

Signs saying "Government House is state property and off limits to outsiders" or "strictly restricted zone" were posted on entrances and exits.

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra on Facebook ridiculed the rally, saying many core leaders were people without noteworthy achievements. The Democrats were reprimanded for siding with the protesters. The opposition bloc should relax and wait for its turn to form the government, he said.

Many leaders of anti-government campaigns were retired senior military or police brass with "broken hearts" from missing out on key positions during reshuffles when they were still in the service. Many retirees' names had also been monopolised by the movement without their consent, he said.

Security at Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra's residence on Yothinpattana Soi 3 has been beefed up with riot control police manning checkpoints set up around the vicinity. Metal barricades ringed the checkpoints and carparks. Yingluck stayed indoors the whole day.

Police dismissed reports that anti-government protesters would fan out to various destinations including Yingluck's home.

Democrat party-list MP Ong-art Klampaiboon said if the government was sincere about not helping any particular person in debating an amnesty bill on Wednesday, it must not try to pass the |bill in three straight readings and must broadcast the debate on state television channels.

Pheu Thai spokesman Prompong Nopparit criticised Democrat Suthep Thaugsuban for vowing to lead a campaign to overthrow the government.

"His actions have confused the public. It's worrisome because Suthep thinks he cannot beat us at the parliamentary system so he must overthrow us unparliamentarily,'' he said.

Prompong also played down coup rumours, saying the people who started spreading coup rumours in social media harboured political motivations and they should take responsibility for their actions.

Pol Maj Gen Piya, spokesman of the police peace-keeping centre, said some high-ranking officials mentioned by the People's Army as its supporters have denied their involvement with the group, including Pol Lt General Adithep Panchamanont, who has submitted a letter to the police refuting the report he supported the group seeking to overthrow the 'Thaksin government' and had filed a police complaint already.


-- The Nation 2013-08-05

[blackman]

''The opposition bloc should relax and wait for its turn to form the government'', Thaksin said.

like they did then, like when he paid for the red revolution

[boomerangutang]

Thailand is strongly influenced by foreign opinion. If you need proof, look at how Moody's spin on the rice scam affected gov't machinations, or how Thaksin goes to foreign news organizations when he wants to tell lies to influence events in Thailand. There are other examples, such as polls and rankings by the UN and Int'l organizations.

More to the topic; coups d'etats are nearly always frowned upon by western governments (the ones with most influence ww). China, for all it's purported economic might, rarely makes judgement calls on such things, as its opinion on int'l events isn't given much weight.

Coups also put a damper on foreign investment coming in, by corp's and gov'ts, not to mention tourist numbers. As much as anything else, coups give sympathy points to those who are deposed. A prime example, is Thaksin.

All in all, another coup here, in the ww 'hub of coups' would be a bad idea, regardless of whether a person likes or dislikes the overthrown gov't members.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

I am afraid I am going to have to disagree with the National " Intelligence" Agency.

The reality is that there is every reason for a coup. Think of the Thai economy as a pig that is bled on a regular basis by the 1700 Thai generals. Life is good in their mansions, and the mia nois are a lot of fun. Now the Shinawatra clan steps in and starts taking serious amounts of blood from the pig, to the point of jeopardizing it's life.

Cannot have that, therefore having a coup will restore balance by having another set of people leading the government who understand they must moderate their taking of blood. Easy to understand, as this is the fundamental basis for the other 18 coups.....

I'd always thought the plural should be mias noi ?

Correct term would be "Mia noi bang"

[rjcampbe]

Though I have no love for the chief bumblers in Bkk, I totally oppose a coup. They are doing a thorough enough job of shooting themselves in their feet, when their feet aren't in their mouths (sorry for the twisted metaphors). The main thing a coup would do, is inflame the Reds, and they'd be at least partly justified - for renewed anger. It's a painful process - particularly for Thailand's already-disadvantaged (the sorts of folks who would never pay to use a 2 trillion baht bullet train), but let the Shinawatres and PT continue to devise their own demise. It's happening. No need for coup d'etat.

You may be onto something with your mixed metaphors...

If some of these bozo's were to shoot themselves in the feet while their feet were in their mouths...

[webfact]

COUP RUMOURS
Army says tank movements routine, not a coup
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The army on Monday tried to stop rumours of a possible coup by announcing that 12 military tanks would be moved from Nakhon Nayok to Kanchanaburi tomorrow.

Commander of the Royal Guard's First Division Maj Gen Wara Bunyasith, said the movement tomorrow morning was part of a routine training exercise and that separate training activities were also being held in Lop Buri.

The military tanks will be taken to Samsen train station for their journey to Kanchanaburi.

His statement aimed to eliminate anxiety over a coup. He said it was a normal manoeuvre with no suspicious agenda.

-- The Nation 2013-08-05

[Zpete]

More's the pity

[Thai at Heart]

Thailand is strongly influenced by foreign opinion. If you need proof, look at how Moody's spin on the rice scam affected gov't machinations, or how Thaksin goes to foreign news organizations when he wants to tell lies to influence events in Thailand. There are other examples, such as polls and rankings by the UN and Int'l organizations.

More to the topic; coups d'etats are nearly always frowned upon by western governments (the ones with most influence ww). China, for all it's purported economic might, rarely makes judgement calls on such things, as its opinion on int'l events isn't given much weight.

Coups also put a damper on foreign investment coming in, by corp's and gov'ts, not to mention tourist numbers. As much as anything else, coups give sympathy points to those who are deposed. A prime example, is Thaksin.

All in all, another coup here, in the ww 'hub of coups' would be a bad idea, regardless of whether a person likes or dislikes the overthrown gov't members.

Thailand thinks it can fool the international community, but when they go too far the recant and retreat. They have changed exactly what after Moody's complaint?

So far, zero. Thailand figures very little in the global system, but they some strategic importance. The only time that they have fallen foul of international pressure was 97, and did you hear them kick and scream?

They still blame Soros for their own screw up. They will have a coup if they want and they won't give two hoots what the international community says.

Edited August 5, 2013 by Thai at Heart

[Thai at Heart]

COUP RUMOURS

Army says tank movements routine, not a coup

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The army on Monday tried to stop rumours of a possible coup by announcing that 12 military tanks would be moved from Nakhon Nayok to Kanchanaburi tomorrow.

Commander of the Royal Guard's First Division Maj Gen Wara Bunyasith, said the movement tomorrow morning was part of a routine training exercise and that separate training activities were also being held in Lop Buri.

The military tanks will be taken to Samsen train station for their journey to Kanchanaburi.

His statement aimed to eliminate anxiety over a coup. He said it was a normal manoeuvre with no suspicious agenda.

-- The Nation 2013-08-05

Will be get summoned for sharing messages that cause anxiety?

[ginjag]

COUP RUMOURS

Army says tank movements routine, not a coup

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The army on Monday tried to stop rumours of a possible coup by announcing that 12 military tanks would be moved from Nakhon Nayok to Kanchanaburi tomorrow.

Commander of the Royal Guard's First Division Maj Gen Wara Bunyasith, said the movement tomorrow morning was part of a routine training exercise and that separate training activities were also being held in Lop Buri.

The military tanks will be taken to Samsen train station for their journey to Kanchanaburi.

His statement aimed to eliminate anxiety over a coup. He said it was a normal manoeuvre with no suspicious agenda.

-- The Nation 2013-08-05

Will be get summoned for sharing messages that cause anxiety?

Thanks army for you kind explanation BUT isn't your timing a little wrong???? normal routine could have been 2 weeks earlier or 2 weeks later.

I have an Idea your routine is putting the wind up people not rumours.

Who organises your monthly routines---send him to an inactive post and get someone who plans ahead, and is aware of situations.

[DocN]

"Niemand hat die Absicht, eine Mauer zu errichten!" - Walter Ulbricht/ August 1961/ Berlin

I wanted to let this stand on it's own...but I reminded myself, that this is an international forum.

So: the above quote is by W. Ulbricht (PM of the German Democratic Republic).

He was asked at a pressconference and said that "No one wants to erect a wall in Berlin"....

Edited August 5, 2013 by DocN

[RubbaJohnny]

I am afraid I am going to have to disagree with the National " Intelligence" Agency.

The reality is that there is every reason for a coup. Think of the Thai economy as a pig that is bled on a regular basis by the 1700 Thai generals. Life is good in their mansions, and the mia nois are a lot of fun. Now the Shinawatra clan steps in and starts taking serious amounts of blood from the pig, to the point of jeopardizing it's life.

Cannot have that, therefore having a coup will restore balance by having another set of people leading the government who understand they must moderate their taking of blood. Easy to understand, as this is the fundamental basis for the other 18 coups.....

ASTUTE OBSERVATION

Over the years the puppets change the coups continue and are always denied right up to the moment they happen.

The odds of no more coups in such an unequal and unaccountable society are slim

[h90]

"Niemand hat die Absicht, eine Mauer zu errichten!" - Walter Ulbricht/ August 1961/ Berlin

I wanted to let this stand on it's own...but I reminded myself, that this is an international forum.

So: the above quote is by W. Ulbricht (PM of the German Democratic Republic).

He was asked at a pressconference and said that "No one wants to erect a wall in Berlin"....

Well "Der antifaschistische Schutzwall" was to keep the West Germans out of East Germany.

The east German politicians would fit well into the Thai system and the Stasi specialist are already hired by the Americans.

So nothing new

[bendejo]

If coup talks are baseless, why every agency including current PM feel the need to tell everyone it's baseless ?

You would think if it was as baseless as so many claim, there would be no need to even address it

Saw a movie once where a police car is rolling down the street, and the cop driving it sees one of his usual suspects.

"Hey Roy, where you goin'?"

Roy responds "Hey, I don't know nothing about no taxi cab robbery, so don't go blaming me!"

Once when doing a visa run out of Ranong an Indian lad among our welcoming party on the Burma side attempted to put me at ease by declaring "we are not stealing!"

[Satcommlee]

I saw a soldier on a baht bus today... it's looking serious!