ll2 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) called the 'firelube bike shop' guys for Fire Torch guys and they said pipe is real carbon fiber but it is 8000 thb not 4500. i think google translate messed up things again. 4500 thb is the price of Leo Vince corsa but not sure how they can fit a leo vince for 500 series and how does it fare on a 650 cc inline four bike, i dont think so i go for a modded Leo Vince. 8500 thb for Fire Torch changed the equations a bit, i might wait a little bit more for other pipes available in the future. But they said 'paman' so it means open for haggling a bit:) Also thinking of contacting with Fire Torch directly as they can do any custom pipe. Edited March 26, 2014 by ll2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 called the 'firelube bike shop' guys for Fire Torch guys and they said pipe is real carbon fiber but it is 8000 thb not 4500. i think google translate messed up things again. 4500 thb is the price of Leo Vince corsa but not sure how they can fit a leo vince for 500 series and how does it fare on a 650 cc inline four bike, i dont think so i go for a modded Leo Vince. 8500 thb for Fire Torch changed the equations a bit, i might wait a little bit more for other pipes available in the future. But they said 'paman' so it means open for haggling a bit:) Also thinking of contacting with Fire Torch directly as they can do any custom pipe. was that for carbon fiber or aluminum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) called the 'firelube bike shop' guys for Fire Torch guys and they said pipe is real carbon fiber but it is 8000 thb not 4500. i think google translate messed up things again. 4500 thb is the price of Leo Vince corsa but not sure how they can fit a leo vince for 500 series and how does it fare on a 650 cc inline four bike, i dont think so i go for a modded Leo Vince. 8500 thb for Fire Torch changed the equations a bit, i might wait a little bit more for other pipes available in the future. But they said 'paman' so it means open for haggling a bit:) Also thinking of contacting with Fire Torch directly as they can do any custom pipe. was that for carbon fiber or aluminum? Carbon fiber.Still good price imo if they go down to 7000 thb but connecting pipe looks so thin to me. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Edited March 26, 2014 by ll2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Leo Vince have an under body exhaust. ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1395757322.527774.jpg I saw it a while ago from Tie Mocyc. Your probably looking at 20K+ though. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand i see that. thanks a lot. I messaged with 'Tie' guy last night and he said 6 months for an exhaust specifically made for cbr650f to arrive to Thailand. I might go for that Fire Torch pipe but custom made as these guys can do any kind of custom made pipe with custom made installation. check their page. All these supersport or liter bike owners cannot be wrong altogether. https://www.facebook.com/FireTorchExhaust personally i liked this pipe they make for z800. Did he mention how much the Leo Vince exhaust will cost? Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Leo Vince have an under body exhaust. ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1395757322.527774.jpg I saw it a while ago from Tie Mocyc. Your probably looking at 20K+ though. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand i see that. thanks a lot. I messaged with 'Tie' guy last night and he said 6 months for an exhaust specifically made for cbr650f to arrive to Thailand. I might go for that Fire Torch pipe but custom made as these guys can do any kind of custom made pipe with custom made installation. check their page. All these supersport or liter bike owners cannot be wrong altogether. https://www.facebook.com/FireTorchExhaust personally i liked this pipe they make for z800. Did he mention how much the Leo Vince exhaust will cost? Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app after hearing 6 months of wait, i did not ask the price but better expect like 40 or 50 k thb as it is a full system. If slip on maybe 25 - 30 k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup3r1or Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 LL make sure its original pipe. Last time when I was servicing a bike in CM a guy was testing his Akrapovic pipe from K-Speed and he actually lost power on a dyno test about 2hp since last time. Mechanic said usually happens with fake pipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 LL make sure its original pipe. Last time when I was servicing a bike in CM a guy was testing his Akrapovic pipe from K-Speed and he actually lost power on a dyno test about 2hp since last time. Mechanic said usually happens with fake pipes. i am not surprised to see a fake one of a Thai made pipe. fake of the fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) LL make sure its original pipe. Last time when I was servicing a bike in CM a guy was testing his Akrapovic pipe from K-Speed and he actually lost power on a dyno test about 2hp since last time. Mechanic said usually happens with fake pipes. That may be true It may also be true the person running the dyno is not skilled But most of all it is usually true that if you just bolt on a pipe or change intake filters etc Regardless of brands You may loose power as you still need to remap the bike for the new exhaust/intake changes Many folks think bolt it on & go but that is not usually the case as the ECU/EFI is optimized for how the bike was setup stock Change the flows of exhaust or intake & you need to adjust at least fuel maps for the changes Edited March 26, 2014 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 LL make sure its original pipe. Last time when I was servicing a bike in CM a guy was testing his Akrapovic pipe from K-Speed and he actually lost power on a dyno test about 2hp since last time. Mechanic said usually happens with fake pipes. That may be true It may also be true the person running the dyno is not skilled But most of all it is usually true that if you just bolt on a pipe or change intake filters etc Regardless of brands You may loose power as you still need to remap the bike for the new exhaust/intake changes Many folks think bolt it on & go but that is not usually the case as the ECU/EFI is optimized for how the bike was setup stock Change the flows of exhaust or intake & you need to adjust at least fuel maps for the changes especially for high displacement bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 LL make sure its original pipe. Last time when I was servicing a bike in CM a guy was testing his Akrapovic pipe from K-Speed and he actually lost power on a dyno test about 2hp since last time. Mechanic said usually happens with fake pipes. never bothered with before and after dyno testing but i do know when i changed the stock exhaust on my er6n i had to put gas in it more often ,definately affected performance but the stock exhaust is so heavy its good to shed some weight if you can ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 LL make sure its original pipe. Last time when I was servicing a bike in CM a guy was testing his Akrapovic pipe from K-Speed and he actually lost power on a dyno test about 2hp since last time. Mechanic said usually happens with fake pipes. never bothered with before and after dyno testing but i do know when i changed the stock exhaust on my er6n i had to put gas in it more often ,definately affected performance but the stock exhaust is so heavy its good to shed some weight if you can ....... You probably just ride the bike harder as you like the sound. I've changed my exhaust many times and have never notice a significant change in Kilometers per liter. I've only got better performance as I lost weight. Just my opinion, don't take it out of context, I'm not banging on how you ride. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_boo Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 LL make sure its original pipe. Last time when I was servicing a bike in CM a guy was testing his Akrapovic pipe from K-Speed and he actually lost power on a dyno test about 2hp since last time. Mechanic said usually happens with fake pipes. never bothered with before and after dyno testing but i do know when i changed the stock exhaust on my er6n i had to put gas in it more often ,definately affected performance but the stock exhaust is so heavy its good to shed some weight if you can ....... You probably just ride the bike harder as you like the sound. I've changed my exhaust many times and have never notice a significant change in Kilometers per liter. I've only got better performance as I lost weight. Just my opinion, don't take it out of context, I'm not banging on how you ride. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Definitely what I've noticed also. There's something about the more guttural sound (rather than the sewing machine most small to mid displacement bikes give off) that encourages revving it out and engine braking. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) moth racing have done a rearset for cbr650f already. 5900 thb for the set. i need full black one. also Moth have hand protectors for 1700 thb, looks ok too. might get one. they have sliders etc more parts actually but the guy said they are still working on some of them. But going to K Speed today after work to get the sliders and maybe the shock stabilizer. also will get them install bikers nice bar ends - bought them new, 6 months ago - , fork adjusters - from k speed before - and rear brake reservoir aluminum cap - bikers new again bought 6 months ago, all remaining from my cbr500r. photos soon! Edited March 27, 2014 by ll2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I went to big wing Pattaya today and had a look around. About 6-7 CB's on display and only 2 CBR's and the sales guy told me that they sell way more CB's than CBR's. I had a test sit on both and like both bikes riding positions and was surprised about the CBR, not so low as I thought it would be. They first have test bikes end of next month so will wait for now and are also waiting for on-line test reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Rider Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I heard that the offical press launch and ride happened for this bike Spain today. Does anyone have any info on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 nice. but the front end is a lot stable, no shaking and although the roads around where i am living is a lot bad, still no wobble so far. I was getting a daily dose of wobble usually on my cbr500r. front end of cbr650f is not light as cbr500r due to cleverly forward slanted inline four engine. So, at this moment, do not need a steering damper still might get one in the future. Yankee, can you provide me the link? thanks man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 The wobble on the 500 disappears with a fork brace. Much stabler in the corners too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 It was either RSV or racing spec here in Thailand can't remember which but just go to their fb page.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong! Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 The wobble on the 500 disappears with a fork brace. Much stabler in the corners too. Does anyone in Thailand sell them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 The wobble on the 500 disappears with a fork brace. Much stabler in the corners too. Does anyone in Thailand sell them? K speed has one for 1700 thb. Check their website. They can post to your address fast. Motive brand. But it will not eliminate all the wobbling, keep in mind. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadJoe Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) Spotted my first one in the wild today. Was next to him as he shot off from from each light for a several blocks. One thing is for sure, this bike needs an aftermarket exhaust. It is whisper quit even when pushed. At first I thought it was electric! Edited April 1, 2014 by NomadJoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Now i understand why the bike is 209 kg. The cat and headers is around 9 kg at least! Cat is also heavier than it looks. Of course i checked it with my not so super accurate hand. So if i put a pipe only, i might save around 5 kgs! Talked with one of the custom pipe maker at his stand at BIRA and he said he can do a custom under swingarm carbon fiber pipe and connecting pipe for 7000 thb. I might visir his shop! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I was at the motor show today and noticed this The black piece not the shock. It seemed to be connected to the catalytic converter. Any idea LL Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 it is an evaporative emission canister for tight emission control for countries like Thailand or states like California. Has charcoal inside. I noticed some bikers remove it over the forums for decreasing the weight but i will not touch that of course. check it out: http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/ducati-evaporative-emissions/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Rider Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Here is the first press ride review of the CB650F !http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-first-rides/first-ride-honda-cb650f-review/24762.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong! Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 The wobble on the 500 disappears with a fork brace. Much stabler in the corners too. Does anyone in Thailand sell them? K speed has one for 1700 thb. Check their website. They can post to your address fast. Motive brand.But it will not eliminate all the wobbling, keep in mind. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app I haven't noticed any wobbling on my 500, but I appreciate their usefulness. Thanks for the linkl Sent from my GT-P3100 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I was at the motor show today and noticed this The black piece not the shock. It seemed to be connected to the catalytic converter. Any idea LL If it is an evap it is usually connected by hose to a vent on the side of the gas tank.Does not rob any power etc. also can be easily removed if so desired with no ill effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 The wobble on the 500 disappears with a fork brace. Much stabler in the corners too. Does anyone in Thailand sell them? K speed has one for 1700 thb. Check their website. They can post to your address fast. Motive brand. But it will not eliminate all the wobbling, keep in mind. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Trust me, it does eliminate the wobble, it is even more stable on roads with crosswinds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 ^ sure a fork stabilizer keeps the bike stable but it is not a final solution for all the wobbling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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