umbanda Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I am married with a Thai woman and keeping my Thai retirement visa. We are registering a limited partnership company to buy a business without employees. Do I need to change my visa to work with her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 It is unlikely a work permit will be issued on retirement extension. Will likely require change to Thai wife or employment. Sent from my i-mobile i-note WIFI3 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_brownstone Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 In any case you will not her a Work Permit if your Company does not employ at least 2 Thai staff. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliasJohn Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 In any case you will not her a Work Permit if your Company does not employ at least 2 Thai staff. Patrick Actually you need four Thai employees, pay their Social Security each month which is 8% including your share and wp will not be issued if on a retirement visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbanda Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 In any case you will not her a Work Permit if your Company does not employ at least 2 Thai staff. Patrick Actually you need four Thai employees, pay their Social Security each month which is 8% including your share and wp will not be issued if on a retirement visa. Can I work with her without work visa if I change my visa for marriage visa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 You cannot work in Thailand without a Work Permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Either way, if your wife opens a business even just as her working (food stall, kiosk etc.) and you want to help her by working then yes you will need a WP. Even volunteer work requires one. That means you will need to change your visa. Look at the top of the main page on this site and there is a lot of info regarding work, WP's etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_brownstone Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 In any case you will not her a Work Permit if your Company does not employ at least 2 Thai staff. Patrick Actually you need four Thai employees, pay their Social Security each month which is 8% including your share and wp will not be issued if on a retirement visa. He has a Thai wife so the Quota is 2 Thai staff. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I would like to butt in here with a different situation. We are considering volunteering, for a week or two, to help with The Christopher Robert Foundation https://www.facebook.com/thecrproject There would be me on a retirement visa, the lady, Thai (not married) and probably 2 10yr old kids (Thai, belonging to the ladys sisters) Could I do this without a work permit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I would like to butt in here with a different situation. We are considering volunteering, for a week or two, to help with The Christopher Robert Foundation https://www.facebook.com/thecrproject There would be me on a retirement visa, the lady, Thai (not married) and probably 2 10yr old kids (Thai, belonging to the ladys sisters) Could I do this without a work permit? i don't think so... you can't even help in a natural disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliasJohn Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 In any case you will not her a Work Permit if your Company does not employ at least 2 Thai staff. Patrick Actually you need four Thai employees, pay their Social Security each month which is 8% including your share and wp will not be issued if on a retirement visa. He has a Thai wife so the Quota is 2 Thai staff. Patrick Ok Thanks....didn't know that. I have a company...without the Thai wife. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I would like to butt in here with a different situation. We are considering volunteering, for a week or two, to help with The Christopher Robert Foundation https://www.facebook.com/thecrproject There would be me on a retirement visa, the lady, Thai (not married) and probably 2 10yr old kids (Thai, belonging to the ladys sisters) Could I do this without a work permit? From The Project website: "Everyone at the Christopher Robert Project is a volunteer and maintains employment independent from the project." As they were launched in May 2011, you should ask them how regarding work permits they have handled all their other non-Thai volunteers. And if they say 'You are the first', I would proceed with caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maprao Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) In any case you will not her a Work Permit if your Company does not employ at least 2 Thai staff. Patrick Actually you need four Thai employees, pay their Social Security each month which is 8% including your share and wp will not be issued if on a retirement visa. He has a Thai wife so the Quota is 2 Thai staff. Patrick This is interesting. I was always told 4. I have a Thai wife and eventually will open a Company with no Thai partners under the treaty of amnety. (USA Thailand) is there a min capital for a company with only 2 Thai employees 2 Million or 5 Million? A reference would be nice to. Thanks in Advance to you for the reference. I want it to send to the person advising me Edited August 8, 2013 by maprao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoli Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 In any case you will not her a Work Permit if your Company does not employ at least 2 Thai staff. Patrick Actually you need four Thai employees, pay their Social Security each month which is 8% including your share and wp will not be issued if on a retirement visa. He has a Thai wife so the Quota is 2 Thai staff. Patrick I still don't understand. If the quota is 4 Thai per foreigner, how does his wife and two more Thai fulfill that requirement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I would like to butt in here with a different situation. We are considering volunteering, for a week or two, to help with The Christopher Robert Foundation https://www.facebook.com/thecrproject There would be me on a retirement visa, the lady, Thai (not married) and probably 2 10yr old kids (Thai, belonging to the ladys sisters) Could I do this without a work permit? i don't think so... you can't even help in a natural disaster. Tsunami in Thailand 2004. Forensic Experts from the German BKA ( similar to the American FBI) flew right after the catastrophe to LOS. They had a hard time, as the bodies were in sea water for a while and you couldn't even say which ethnicity they were. They did a great job identifying many bodies. But: They were kicked out by Thai authorities for working without a work permit. Insanity at its best. Hope that answers your question.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 In any case you will not her a Work Permit if your Company does not employ at least 2 Thai staff. Patrick Actually you need four Thai employees, pay their Social Security each month which is 8% including your share and wp will not be issued if on a retirement visa. He has a Thai wife so the Quota is 2 Thai staff. Patrick I still don't understand. If the quota is 4 Thai per foreigner, how does his wife and two more Thai fulfill that requirement? A good question. They might count the foreigner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGIE Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Does you wife not know about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantSmith Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 In any case you will not her a Work Permit if your Company does not employ at least 2 Thai staff. Patrick Actually you need four Thai employees, pay their Social Security each month which is 8% including your share and wp will not be issued if on a retirement visa. He has a Thai wife so the Quota is 2 Thai staff. Patrick Ok Thanks....didn't know that. I have a company...without the Thai wife. Cheers It was in the OP... A foreigner can establish a company with the Thai wife with normal qualifications halved.. That is; 1 million registered capital... The foreigner can also apply for a work permit through said company if the company employs (including the obligatory social security payments, minimum wage etc) 2 Thais... The registered capital needs to be at least 25% paid up. But that is for a Thai Limited company, I'm not sure if the above applies to Partnerships. So if the OP goes down the Thai Limited route, his wife would or should employ herself and someone else to meet the minimum criteria... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffer Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 The same applies all over the world.... The only time that people don't need a work permit is if you are part of an invading army. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrilled Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 You might not be able to work no matter what. If I was you if there is work to be done hire A thai. That's what the thai government would want you to do. And what do you do with yourself?Observe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DekDaeng Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I would like to butt in here with a different situation. We are considering volunteering, for a week or two, to help with The Christopher Robert Foundation https://www.facebook.com/thecrproject There would be me on a retirement visa, the lady, Thai (not married) and probably 2 10yr old kids (Thai, belonging to the ladys sisters) Could I do this without a work permit? i don't think so... you can't even help in a natural disaster. Tsunami in Thailand 2004. Forensic Experts from the German BKA ( similar to the American FBI) flew right after the catastrophe to LOS. They had a hard time, as the bodies were in sea water for a while and you couldn't even say which ethnicity they were. They did a great job identifying many bodies. But: They were kicked out by Thai authorities for working without a work permit. Insanity at its best. Hope that answers your question.- & US Navy (in the Gulf of Thailand) told to 'piss off'* after offering help as floods headed for BKK. *Effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DekDaeng Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 & if it goes sour with the missus (after buying house in her name, etc etc,) she only has to make a phone call & you will be out of the country in 48. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I would like to butt in here with a different situation. We are considering volunteering, for a week or two, to help with The Christopher Robert Foundation https://www.facebook.com/thecrproject There would be me on a retirement visa, the lady, Thai (not married) and probably 2 10yr old kids (Thai, belonging to the ladys sisters) Could I do this without a work permit? i don't think so... you can't even help in a natural disaster. Tsunami in Thailand 2004. Forensic Experts from the German BKA ( similar to the American FBI) flew right after the catastrophe to LOS. They had a hard time, as the bodies were in sea water for a while and you couldn't even say which ethnicity they were. They did a great job identifying many bodies. But: They were kicked out by Thai authorities for working without a work permit. Insanity at its best. Hope that answers your question.- & US Navy (in the Gulf of Thailand) told to 'piss off'* after offering help as floods headed for BKK. *Effectively. After the tsunami there were many offers from foreign governments offering to help with reconstruction etc. but the Thai government didn't want to know. They could donate money though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokburning Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I would like to butt in here with a different situation. We are considering volunteering, for a week or two, to help with The Christopher Robert Foundation https://www.facebook.com/thecrproject There would be me on a retirement visa, the lady, Thai (not married) and probably 2 10yr old kids (Thai, belonging to the ladys sisters) Could I do this without a work permit? From The Project website: "Everyone at the Christopher Robert Project is a volunteer and maintains employment independent from the project." As they were launched in May 2011, you should ask them how regarding work permits they have handled all their other non-Thai volunteers. And if they say 'You are the first', I would proceed with caution. Regardless whether everyone has outside employment, each "volunteer" needs a wp attached to the organization as well. This sounds like a round about way to employ teachers in the backwaters to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeichen Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I know of many religious groups that came here on tourist visas and helped out in the south during the Tsunami. Illegal yes, in the way the law is written but enforced no. Playing music on the other hand and look out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 If an organization claims on its website that it is an IRS approved 501c3 non-profit (or Registered Charity in Commonwealth terms), and the very comprehensive IRS website from which one can search/access all 501c3 organizations has no record of such non-profit status, that is not a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) & if it goes sour with the missus (after buying house in her name, etc etc,) she only has to make a phone call & you will be out of the country in 48. Nonsense Could you kindly tell me how she could do that. Even if you were on an extension of stay based upon marriage you would have to be divorced to loose the extension and the Amphoe does not notify immigration when you get divorced. If on a visa there is no way she could have you kicked out of the country. Edited August 9, 2013 by ubonjoe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsideOut Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 yes, you need a WP to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 & if it goes sour with the missus (after buying house in her name, etc etc,) she only has to make a phone call & you will be out of the country in 48. Nonsense Could you kindly tell me how she could do that. Even if you were on an extension of stay based upon marriage you would have to be divorced to loose the extension and the Amphoe does not notify immigration when you get divorced. If on a visa there is no way she could have you kicked out of the country. Working without a WP can (not always) result in deportation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) & if it goes sour with the missus (after buying house in her name, etc etc,) she only has to make a phone call & you will be out of the country in 48. NonsenseCould you kindly tell me how she could do that. Even if you were on an extension of stay based upon marriage you would have to be divorced to loose the extension and the Amphoe does not notify immigration when you get divorced. If on a visa there is no way she could have you kicked out of the country. Working without a WP can (not always) result in deportation. Even if you have a wp, they can still screw with you. Place of work, job you may be performing etc.Technically working outside your registered office address is illegal. Edited August 9, 2013 by Thai at Heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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